any other death heads?

[blackout]

Slapping penguin, I reccomend you check out Vader and Decapitated as you seem to like the kind of Death/thrash sound.

[NJMetalMeister]

ill second the reccomendation for vader. Anyone who doesnt like some vader is a fool.

[Six Foot Revolver]

I haven't heard Vader before but I will check them out

[metdrummer]

Other than Psycroptic, can anyone tell me if any of these bands are any good:


Konkhra (Denmark)
Bloodduster
Alchemist
Walk The Earth
Daysend
Lynchmada
Psycroptic
Mourningtide
Astriaal
Minus Life
Sakkuth
Lump
A Secret Death
The Amity Affliction
King Mungi
From These Wounds
Nunchukka Superfly
Alarum
The Crisis Therapy
Beijing Tank
Blunt Object
Headkase
This Collision
MSBI
Frankenbok

I only know of Frankenbok and Blood Duster.

Blood Duster are grindy deathy stuff... comedic.

And old frankenbok is very deathy, new stuff leans mroe twoards a metalcore approach. My band supported Frankenbok on there Australian tour.

[the2stranger]

What band(s) do yo guys think define Death Metal?

death :p

the one and only

[Jondur]

Maybe because late Death era> early Death era :p

Rubbish. The first two Death albums are what death metal is all about.

How's the kid doing :)?

He's now completely nocturnal. I'm completely knackered.

[Stoic]

What band(s) do yo guys think define Death Metal?

Death metal has quite a few sub genres that represent different levels of extremity, like Slapping Penguin says. For example Atheist differ a lot from Cryptopsy but they're both death metal bands. Although I'm not really a fan, I would say that Cannibal Corpse define death metal or at least the typical picture people who dont know the genre have about it.

[LegionsofMarduk]

He's now completely nocturnal. I'm completely knackered.

:lol:

Ahh...I remember those days. Yeah, they sucked.

[Stoic]

He's now completely nocturnal. I'm completely knackered.

:lol:
Just be patient man and wait for the real problems. Has he held his first drum stick yet? Or is he still too little to do this? :D

[the2stranger]

:lol:
Just be patient man and wait for the real problems. Has he held his first drum stick yet? Or is he still too little to do this? :D


I assume you are Metalfan?
how on earth do all you people get name changes, the mods are changing everyone's name, quite confusing.

I'm fine with my name, so no name changes for me

[Stoic]

I assume you are Metalfan?
how on earth do all you people get name changes, the mods are changing everyone's name, quite confusing.

I'm fine with my name, so no name changes for me

:thumb: It's good to see that people remember you!
Well I only found out about name changes today. You just go here: http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=363429 and request the name change. I suspect this is for a short period of time though. Your name it's cool. Mine was way too typical.

[Bartender]

Who here has heard anything by the Swedish Death Metal band "Vomitory"??

I sampled their CD "Primal Massacre", and it was a fairly good listen, but they sound basically like every other Death Metal band out there. Some cool points about them though

From what I've heard by them, they are basically an old-school death metal band (which is why they "sound basically like every other death metal band out there"), they just do what they do better than many other generic bands.


Other than Psycroptic, can anyone tell me if any of these bands are any good:

..
Alarum
..

Alarum are good, if you like Atheist and Cynic's style. They're probably the closest thing we have to Atheist and Cynic, now that both bands are broken up.

[Lord Abortion]

for me the only DM i have heard has been the diecide/MA stuff and CC style gore stuff

I haven't listened to alot of melo-death or the more commercial gothenburg sound.
Death are something that is totally unique as they don't categorise very well
there are many many different branches of DM to love

My favourite DM band's albums;
Cannibal corpse- Tomb of the mutilated, Gore obsessed
these are the two different ends of the CC spectrum with different vocals and styles

cryptopsy- alot of people just rate none so vile as the only one worth listening to, I haven't heard any different ones but that one rules

Morbid angel- Alters of madness is superb, as is domination, formulas fatal to the flesh and the other one I always forget... :p

Diecide- for rawer stuff the ST is great, as is legion, Once upon the cross and scars of the crucifix are different and slightly more mainstream

I can't really comment on Death as although I have SBG I have no other death albums :(

[Six Foot Revolver]

:thumb: It's good to see that people remember you!
Well I only found out about name changes today. You just go here: http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=363429 and request the name change. I suspect this is for a short period of time though. Your name it's cool. Mine was way too typical.
Yeah it is for a short time only, Jim does one of these threads about every six months.

[Jondur]

Every now and again I like to post what I consider to be the top ten essential death metal albums. Personally I don't think that you can understand death metal without owning these standards:

Autopsy - Severed Survival
Morbid Angel - Altars of Madness
Death - Leprosy
Obituary - Cause of Death
Entombed - Left Hand {Path
Dismember - Lie an Everflowing Stream
Immolation - Dawn of Possession
Suffocation - Effigy of the Forgotten
Grave - Into the Grave
Bolt Thrower - Realms of Chaos

Now there's certainly a case for the older and more esoteric (Master, Slaughterlord etc) but these are the albums that shaped death metal in it's heyday.

Disagree if you will - but I'm right.

[Corporal Compendia]

No Impetigo? No Pungent Stench? Ahh I guess those 2 had more influence on grind anyways.

Only one of those I don't have is the Dismember.

[Stoic]

Every now and again I like to post what I consider to be the top ten essential death metal albums. Personally I don't think that you can understand death metal without owning these standards:

Autopsy - Severed Survival
Morbid Angel - Altars of Madness
Death - Leprosy
Obituary - Cause of Death
Entombed - Left Hand {Path
Dismember - Lie an Everflowing Stream
Immolation - Dawn of Possession
Suffocation - Effigy of the Forgotten
Grave - Into the Grave
Bolt Thrower - Realms of Chaos

I have these
/Untr00 :D

Generally speaking, sure they are some influencial releases in each genre but besides their historical value I dont really see why I ought to own them or any other releases considered classic as long as I dont enjoy them. Is it wrong to only enjoy the evolved/newer form of a genre?

This is a very good opportunity to finally check out entombed and dismember :)

Disagree if you will

/starts saying something...

but I'm right.

/shuts up

old school guys ;)

[ninjamonkey]

I assume you are Metalfan?
how on earth do all you people get name changes, the mods are changing everyone's name, quite confusing.

I'm fine with my name, so no name changes for me
Have you ever gotten a name change?

[the2stranger]

Have you ever gotten a name change?


nope< ihad another account before this one, which was just 'the stranger'
but it got perma banned, and I never even saw a reason to why in the banned section on the site subforum :confused:

so I made this account, I thoyught I had about 600 posts on the old account and join date may 04 or something. I would consider a merge but it seems as if my old account has dissapeared.

ps
I bought my Opeth, and Arcturus + Red Harvest tickets today

np: Solefald - charge of total affect.

[Stoic]

Have you ever gotten a name change?

what's your metal-rules user name? There's Tatooedninja or something like this, is it you?

nope< ihad another account before this one, which was just 'the stranger' but it got perma banned, and I never even saw a reason to why in the banned section on the site subforum

sounds like your account was hacked...

[Bartender]

Every now and again I like to post what I consider to be the top ten essential death metal albums. Personally I don't think that you can understand death metal without owning these standards:

Autopsy - Severed Survival
Morbid Angel - Altars of Madness
Death - Leprosy
Obituary - Cause of Death
Entombed - Left Hand {Path
Dismember - Lie an Everflowing Stream
Immolation - Dawn of Possession
Suffocation - Effigy of the Forgotten
Grave - Into the Grave
Bolt Thrower - Realms of Chaos

Now there's certainly a case for the older and more esoteric (Master, Slaughterlord etc) but these are the albums that shaped death metal in it's heyday.

Disagree if you will - but I'm right.

Depressingly, my owned:unowned ratio hasn't improved much since the last time you posted this.

I am pretty sure that, not last time you posted your Top 10 essentials but some time before that, it included Deicide - Deicide.

[superpeer]

I still only have two.

[Stoic]

hehe I'm not that untr00 :evil:

[superpeer]

I challenge you to go and find it in the stores down town.

[Stoic]

I challenge you to go and find it in the stores down town.

Are these so hard to find? Which one in particular? I've been pretty good at finding relatively hard-to-find albums lately.

[superpeer]

Are these so hard to find? Which one in particular? I've been pretty good at finding relatively hard-to-find albums lately.

I haven't seen any of them in the stores apart from Death and Morbid Angel, which I have. These stores just don't have a lot of metal. Once in a while they'll have something cool, but usually not these bands.

[Ad Absurdum]

I can find almost all the ones on Jondur's list, unfortunately I only currently own a couple of them. If you don't mind ordering from the net I could give you a few (UK) sites that will have them.

Oh, and Stoic (Metalfan), can you recommend me some techincal death other than Atheist, Cynic, Gorguts, Necrophagist, Cryptopsy and Beneath the Massacre? Thanks :thumb:

[the2stranger]

I can find almost all the ones on Jondur's list, unfortunately I only currently own a couple of them. If you don't mind ordering from the net I could give you a few (UK) sites that will have them.

Oh, and Stoic (Metalfan), can you recommend me some techincal death other than Atheist, Cynic, Gorguts, Necrophagist, Cryptopsy and Beneath the Massacre? Thanks :thumb:
theory in practice, meshuggah, quo vadis

[Bartender]

Alarum. Pestilence's Spheres.

[Stoic]

I haven't seen any of them in the stores apart from Death and Morbid Angel, which I have. These stores just don't have a lot of metal. Once in a while they'll have something cool, but usually not these bands.

You're unlucky then. I even found a Sceptic album once in a non specialized mainstream CD store!

I can find almost all the ones on Jondur's list, unfortunately I only currently own a couple of them. If you don't mind ordering from the net I could give you a few (UK) sites that will have them.

I order from the internet as long as they accept being payed via well hidden euros so if they do I'd love to visit these websites.

Oh, and Stoic (Metalfan), can you recommend me some techincal death other than Atheist, Cynic, Gorguts, Necrophagist, Cryptopsy and Beneath the Massacre?

I'm pretty sure you've already seen my suggestions mentioned here.

Atheist/late era Death and slightly At the Gates influenced:
Gory Blister
(I cant believe you still havent checked them out, I hope you just forgot to mention them :evil: )

Similar kind of technical death are Pica Fierce, an excellent demo band

Closest band to Atheist/Cynic ever:
Alarum

Necrophagist/Beneath the Massacre category (alright not exactly like them but they should work):
Domination Through Impurity, ninjamonkey has their album
Spawn of Possession
Scent of Death
Origin

Progressive Grind: !TOOH! thanks to X12ouncesofhateX, cant remember his new name.

sweet Jazzy bass-drums-vocals Grind: Cause for Effect thanks to a guy in the jazz metal thread originally started by Dancin' Man

These are all off my 5 star tech death list :thumb:

[Ad Absurdum]

I order from the internet as long as they accept being payed via well hidden euros so if they do I'd love to visit these websites.

I'm pretty sure you've already seen my suggestions mentioned here.

Atheist/late era Death and slightly At the Gates influenced:
Gory Blister
(I cant believe you still havent checked them out, I hope you just forgot to mention them :evil: )

Similar kind of technical death are Pica Fierce, an excellent demo band

Closest band to Atheist/Cynic ever:
Alarum

Necrophagist/Beneath the Massacre category (alright not exactly like them but they should work):
Domination Through Impurity, ninjamonkey has their album
Spawn of Possession
Scent of Death
Origin

Progressive Grind: !TOOH! thanks to X12ouncesofhateX, cant remember his new name.

sweet Jazzy bass-drums-vocals Grind: Cause for Effect thanks to a guy in the jazz metal thread originally started by Dancin' Man

These are all off my 5 star tech death list :thumb:

Oddly enough, the ones that I found the albums on were mainly the regular CD sites in the UK (http://www.play.com and http://www.blahdvd.com), but if you are looking for UK/Europe distros try:
http://www.supernalmusic.com
http://www.kolobosdistribution.com
http://e-shop.season-of-mist.com
http://www.goldenlakeprods.co.uk
http://www.insidious-poisoning.com
http://www.anti-design.co.uk/todestrieb/distro/


Thanks for the recommendations, and I've actually not checked out any of those bands yet. I'm new to metal (I'm also young and poor :p) so I've still got alot of CD's to buy, so I never really get a chance to check out bands mentioned in the thread. I'll be sure to check out those bands you recommended though, thanks!

[Stoic]

Oddly enough, the ones that I found the albums on were mainly the regular CD sites in the UK (http://www.play.com and http://www.blahdvd.com), but if you are looking for UK/Europe distros try:
http://www.supernalmusic.com
http://www.kolobosdistribution.com
http://e-shop.season-of-mist.com
http://www.goldenlakeprods.co.uk
http://www.insidious-poisoning.com
http://www.anti-design.co.uk/todestrieb/distro/

Awesome! I only know supernalmusic (thanks to Bartender) and season of mist :thumb:


Thanks for the recommendations, and I've actually not checked out any of those bands yet. I'm new to metal (I'm also young and poor :p) so I've still got alot of CD's to buy, so I never really get a chance to check out bands mentioned in the thread. I'll be sure to check out those bands you recommended though, thanks!

You really dont give this impression (at least to me) :p

I think all of them have samples on their sites. It might be hard to find their albums though.

[Ad Absurdum]

You really dont give this impression (at least to me) :p

I think all of them have samples on their sites. It might be hard to find their albums though.

Haha, thanks (*is taking it as a compliment*). Those distros are generally more underground than Supernal and Season of Mist. I know loads more, so if you are ever looking for underground black/death metal I might be able to help.

/looks at band's sites.

[VeedBok]

yeah i got a gory blister album (Art Bleeds) and its pretty good.

[Slapping Penguin]

It sounds like a decent and mature effort to give death metal a chance. Dont worry that you didnt get into Cannibal Corpse, Cynic and Cryptopsy. In fact I never really liked Cannibal Corpse, I also find the robot voice annoying on Focus and the Cryptopsy vocals have been a turn off for me too.

I would suggest checking the band Death if not already (especially their latest era). The vocals are quite accessible and even their fastest stuff is not tiring because of constant blastbeats. They're more midpaced with break downs and technical riffs. Make sure you download songs off all their albums as they sound a lot different from release to release. Oh and Death=Chuck Schuldiner

suggested songs:
Lack of Comprehension
Nothing is Everything
1000 eyes
Scavenger of Human Sorrow

I might not know very well how metalcore sounds but I certainly know how death metal sounds and Lamb of God clearly cannot be classified as death.

Thanks alot mate I will check those out. With Cynic I liked it but I just thought the robot voice was silly but god thats easily bareable. With Death I have only shockly heard Crystal Mountain but I was under the impression that they were Melodic Death Metal. They pinioorred Melo Death didn't they?

My chums are into Metalcore and I will tell you Lamb of God is not metalcore. Metalcore is Hardcore punk that starts to go into metal. Its odd because you an obivious listiner of Death when hearing LOG find them not Death. While I trying to hear more Death stuff when I hear Lamb of God they still sound death to me. Even after listing to Necrohagist is still sounds death I can hear similarites its just they sound like I guess wussy death?

Slapping penguin, I reccomend you check out Vader and Decapitated as you seem to like the kind of Death/thrash sound.

Thanks I think I have heard good things about Vader cheers.

Crap. Why does everyone go for the widdly stuff. I'd say try:

Pull the Plug
Zombie Ritual
Living Monstrosity
Open Casket
Regurgitated Guts

Thanks dude but that sounds like Gore metal which I think is silly. I mean look at the names they are just a laugh. Its like there trying to hard to sound boogey or extreme. Frantic Disbowelment. Pagan Rock Hard Mangled erection.
Rotting Corpse on a Sandwich. Bone dildos.

[Nosferatu]

Speaking of Gory Blister, does anyone have an album by them that I could download, like off of soulseek? I've only heard one of their songs and I really want to get into them more but haven't been able to find anything anywhere.

anyone?

[Hammerheart]

The new Hypocrisy is AMAZING.

[Ad Absurdum]

Thanks dude but that sounds like Gore metal which I think is silly. I mean look at the names they are just a laugh. Its like there trying to hard to sound boogey or extreme. Frantic Disbowelment. Pagan Rock Hard Mangled erection.
Rotting Corpse on a Sandwich. Bone dildos.

Their first album, Scream Bloody Gore had gore lyrics (not too gorey though). However, Chuck started writing more mature lyrics for the rest of the albums about political issues etc. 'Pull the Plug' is an example of this.

[RCA]

Thanks dude but that sounds like Gore metal which I think is silly. I mean look at the names they are just a laugh. Its like there trying to hard to sound boogey or extreme. Frantic Disbowelment. Pagan Rock Hard Mangled erection.
Rotting Corpse on a Sandwich. Bone dildos.

Choosing not to listen to something based on it's song title is completely retarded. Give those songs a try.

Oh, and Lamb of God is the most annoying band ever IMO.

[Magicaltroll]

Choosing not to listen to something based on it's song title is completely retarded. Give those songs a try.

Oh, and Lamb of God is the most annoying band ever IMO.
They have some good songs. What draws me to them is the riffs they make. I love most of the riffs they have.

[RCA]

That's where I disagree though. The riffs just aren't cutting it for me; especially the dun dun dun *harmonic* riffs.

[Magicaltroll]

That's where I disagree though. The riffs just aren't cutting it for me; especially the dun dun dun *harmonic* riffs.
Hmm, well, I know alot of people like that actually. I'm pretty alone when it comes to liking Lamb Of God. Because alot of my friends don't like them.

Sometimes those types of riffs get on my nerves too.

[RCA]

Hmm, well, I know alot of people like that actually. I'm pretty alone when it comes to liking Lamb Of God. Because alot of my friends don't like them.

Sometimes those types of riffs get on my nerves too.

Well, if you like the band, more power to you. Actually, I hear they're a great live band with good stage presence. I take it you have gone/will go to shows, so all of us non-LoG fans will miss out on a great performance.

Nice avatar by the way. I was looking at Death logos earlier for a collage I'm making. I have a link somewhere to the site...

You may or may not have seen these (http://www.humandeath.de/Logos.htm)

[Magicaltroll]

Well, if you like the band, more power to you. Actually, I hear they're a great live band with good stage presence. I take it you have gone/will go to shows, so all of us non-LoG fans will miss out on a great performance.

Nice avatar by the way. I was looking at Death logos earlier for a collage I'm making. I have a link somewhere to the site...
Yeah, they're one hell of a live band from the DVD I have of them, its a mp3 rip of their DVD actually. Same thing though.

And thanks, I couldn't find alot of Death logos, do you know where to get them at? I kinda want a background of the logo.

EDIT: Awesome! Thanks.

[RCA]

You're welcome. :D

That site is great for information, though you'll need to have it translated.

[Deathcrush]

Thanks dude but that sounds like Gore metal which I think is silly. I mean look at the names they are just a laugh. Its like there trying to hard to sound boogey or extreme. Frantic Disbowelment. Pagan Rock Hard Mangled erection.
Rotting Corpse on a Sandwich. Bone dildos.

Haha, you're stupid.

[James Van Halen]

Can you guys give me a list of bands that are Melodic or Symophonic Black Metal? I prefer that style as opposed to Mayhem-Gorgoroth type stuff. That fast brutal stuff is ok, but I'd rather hear stuff with a little more harmony to it.

[Deathcrush]

I just thought I'd share with you all, incase you don't visit the BM thread, this is The Emperor.

[RCA]

I just thought I'd share with you all, incase you don't visit the BM thread, this is The Emperor.

ANOTHER one with a name change, Christ. :lol:

Your name and avatar are quite the slayteam though.

[Deathcrush]

ANOTHER one with a name change, Christ. :lol:

Your name and avatar are quite the slayteam though.

If you haven't noticed the user-title reference aswel, go away plz. :p

[Druumer89]

im pretty into meshuggah just because of the crazy *** timeing they use it is just mind blowing for me and the double bass of the drummer...slipknot is pretty good too

[Deathcrush]

im pretty into meshuggah just because of the crazy *** timeing they use it is just mind blowing for me and the double bass of the drummer...slipknot is pretty good too

:rolleyes: Neither of those bands are death metal...

Haha, while I'm posting that, I must say that this stupid pop-punk idiot that I hate was once speaking to me at a party, ages ago, when I thought he was okay. I was telling him that there's some punk I don't mind etc. and he says to me "Well... I'm not sure you'd call them death metal... maybe... but you know The Murderdolls?"

:lol:

[heavy metal kid]

I'm going to see Malevolent Creation in a few hours(tomorrow for some people), i'm pretty excited, have anyone already saw them live?

[Magicaltroll]

:rolleyes: Neither of those bands are death metal...

Haha, while I'm posting that, I must say that this stupid pop-punk idiot that I hate was once speaking to me at a party, ages ago, when I thought he was okay. I was telling him that there's some punk I don't mind etc. and he says to me "Well... I'm not sure you'd call them death metal... maybe... but you know The Murderdolls?"

:lol:
Originally Posted by magicaltroll834
If I remember right, you get alot of cds cheap.
And if I did, lucky bastard!


Elaborate, please.
-you

Just to tell you what I meant, I meant that I think I recall you saying that you've gotten alot of great albums for about 6-8 bucks. But I wasn't sure. But if it was you that got those cheap CDs, I was calling you lucky.

I was typing that stuff in, but then the thread got closed.

[CaptainWaits]

I was sent Necrophagist's "Epitaph" today, as well as "Day Into Night" by Quo Vadis. Both goos listens, Quo Vadis I'm still getting in to

[Magicaltroll]

I was sent Necrophagist's "Epitaph" today, as well as "Day Into Night" by Quo Vadis. Both goos listens, Quo Vadis I'm still getting in to
I got the same Quo Vadis, its good, but not great as some people make it out to be. Maybe it'll grow on me.

[br3ad_man]

Oh my goodness. This band is incredible. Please listen to them.

http://www.purevolume.com/knifethepuppets

[br3ad_man]

Alarum are good, if you like Atheist and Cynic's style. They're probably the closest thing we have to Atheist and Cynic, now that both bands are broken up.

Excellent. Those bands are all from a metal festival that's happening in Novemeber. I'm definitely going now as long as I'm not in Thailand.

[Magicaltroll]

"Cheerleaders!!! Stupid... Kids!!!! KNIVE THEM ALLL!!!!!"

:lol: :lol: :lol:

[Mekkalayakay]

Oh my goodness. This band is incredible. Please listen to them.

http://www.purevolume.com/knifethepuppets


Wow........that stuff is technical.

And kvlt as fvck.

[Jondur]

Thanks dude but that sounds like Gore metal which I think is silly. I mean look at the names they are just a laugh. Its like there trying to hard to sound boogey or extreme. Frantic Disbowelment. Pagan Rock Hard Mangled erection.
Rotting Corpse on a Sandwich. Bone dildos.

No actually it sounds like Death metal. Death metal as it was always supposed to be. Death metal before 260 bpm blasts and eight fingered tapping. Who cares if the bass player from Necrophagist sweep picks? Who cares if Flo Mournier is gravity blasting with both hands? The point is whether it sounds good. And the feel of death metal can be conveyed through three chords and some growls if done well.

I think the problem with many newer Death metal fans is that they feel the need to try and legitimise the genre in the eyes of non-death metal fans. So they focus on the technicality, they praise the more 'mature' lyrical approach of latter day death etc, they dismiss the likes of Cannibal Corpse - saying that they are "death metal for beginners". So, in their need for acceptance, they completely miss the point.

And it's not death metal that this viewpoint is confined to. I've heard people extol the virtues of grind as a mix of jazz and death - which is funny as grind to me was always three chord anarcho-punk played at lightspeed.

So, in completely non-serious conclusion, DEATH TO BLASTING TECHNICAL DEATH, HAILZ TO RAW, OLD-SCHOOL, MAGGOT-INFESTED DEATH.

[br3ad_man]

Hey Jon, can you tell me anything about any of these bands?

www.overcranked.com

How's your son going?

[Jondur]

especially the dun dun dun *harmonic* riffs.

Excellent description and 100% agreement.

[the2stranger]

Oh my goodness. This band is incredible. Please listen to them.

http://www.purevolume.com/knifethepuppets

this stuff is so underground, and I'm glad it will always stay underground.
sounds like the vocalists vocalchords are gonna snap every second. :lol:

I present you the future of extreme metal :evil:

[Jondur]

No Impetigo? No Pungent Stench? Ahh I guess those 2 had more influence on grind anyways.

Would you replace any of those 10? Impetigo and Pungent Stench are both ace but I was trying to pick ten. I thought if there was going to be any arguement it would have been over the lack of Master and Possessed.

Only one of those I don't have is the Dismember.

Trust me - like an everflowing stream is a classic!

[Jondur]

I am pretty sure that, not last time you posted your Top 10 essentials but some time before that, it included Deicide - Deicide.

Bugger - I knew I was missing one!! In my defence I plead sleep deprivation!

[Jondur]

Generally speaking, sure they are some influencial releases in each genre but besides their historical value I dont really see why I ought to own them or any other releases considered classic as long as I dont enjoy them.

Maybe you shouldn't have to own them but you should have at least heard them. It may be a old-fashioned thing to do but one of the first things I used to do when I got a new CD (well LP or tape!) was to read the band's thanks lists and try and check out all the bands! Similarly if I heard a band namecheck another band as an influence I would check them out.

Is it wrong to only enjoy the evolved/newer form of a genre?

I prefer the word "diluted"

[Freezing Moon]

Well, I've heard 5/10 of the albums on that list, 6 if Deicide - Deicide was on there. I think I prefer Legion though.

This time around I'm definitly checking out the rest of those.

[Jondur]

Hey Jon, can you tell me anything about any of these bands?

www.overcranked.com

Apart from those already discussed - Konkhra are boring. Sound a bit like Machine Head these days. Probably most famous for having ex-Machine Head drummer Chris Kontos play on one of their albums.

How's your son going?

Fine thanks. He was watching Maiden vids with me last night at 2.30am!

[Apocalyptic Raids]

Well, I've heard 5/10 of the albums on that list, 6 if Deicide - Deicide was on there. I think I prefer Legion though.

This time around I'm definitly checking out the rest of those.
TheChosenOnes?

[Freezing Moon]

TheChosenOnes?

;)

I like the name change thread, I was sick of my other one.

NP: Death - Open Casket

[br3ad_man]

Apart from those already discussed - Konkhra are boring. Sound a bit like Machine Head these days. Probably most famous for having ex-Machine Head drummer Chris Kontos play on one of their albums.



Fine thanks. He was watching Maiden vids with me last night at 2.30am!

Fair enough, do you reckon that lineup would be worth $65 AU?


Maiden videos, that's pretty madcore. :thumb:

[Stoic]

;)

I like the name change thread, I was sick of my other one.

NP: Death - Open Casket

Jeez, it took me a while to realize who you are! Now who the heck is Deathcrush? Not the name but the avatar changes are the worst!

EDIT

DEATH TO BLASTING TECHNICAL DEATH

:eek:

No! :angry:

[br3ad_man]

Deathcrush = The Emperor

[Stoic]

Deathcrush = The Emperor

wow, he's so utr00 :p

These name changes are rather annoying. I mean, I see a new name in the last posts column and I wonder who the heck is this. Same happens with my own new name too :lol:

[br3ad_man]

:lol:

I'm thinking of changing the 3 in mine to an e. But then again I've had this name for 2 years...

[Stoic]

I'm thinking of changing the 3 in mine to an e. But then again I've had this name for 2 years...

nah the 3 is classic! Leave you name alone, I cant stand one more name change! (says someone who changed his name after 2 years too). How's the cover going?

anyone?

manuscriptreplica has it (he had uploaded a while ago) and think Bobo has too. I can upload it for you if you want (you wont get a decent speed on soulseek). Just tell me which songs you already have. Btw are you a guy that changed his name of something? I'm really confused lately.

The new Hypocrisy is AMAZING

New album for Hypocrisy?

/checks

You may or may not have seen these

This is a pretty cool site. Makes sad though since we'll never have the chance to meet Chuck or see Death live :(

[br3ad_man]

I haven't worked on the cover much actually. I'll get some of it done on the weekend, maybe even the vocals.

[Stoic]

I haven't worked on the cover much actually. I'll get some of it done on the weekend, maybe even the vocals.

I bet it's cool to do the vocals. I asked Merkabas Voice Help Hotline for growling and stuff but everyone ignores me! Plus, I think it's kind of embarassing to growl when they're people at home :p

[br3ad_man]

I always do it when no one's home. Or I make sure no one can hear because it's embarrasing.

[Stoic]

*sigh*

/lives in an apartment so the neighboors might hear...

[the2stranger]

*sigh*

/lives in an apartment so the neighboors might hear...


me and a friend of mine always do shrieks and growls together just for fun, but I guess I'm improving my skills though.
plus I growl along with my cd's.

[Stoic]

me and a friend of mine always do shrieks and growls together just for fun, but I guess I'm improving my skills though.
plus I growl along with my cd's.

tell me how you do it!!! Do you have a recording of yourself?

EDIT

In other news Vio-lence is changing his name into Apocalyptic Raids and Death to Pop Punk has changed it into ShadowsFallen. *sigh*

[Slapping Penguin]

No actually it sounds like Death metal. Death metal as it was always supposed to be. Death metal before 260 bpm blasts and eight fingered tapping. Who cares if the bass player from Necrophagist sweep picks? Who cares if Flo Mournier is gravity blasting with both hands? The point is whether it sounds good. And the feel of death metal can be conveyed through three chords and some growls if done well.

I think the problem with many newer Death metal fans is that they feel the need to try and legitimise the genre in the eyes of non-death metal fans. So they focus on the technicality, they praise the more 'mature' lyrical approach of latter day death etc, they dismiss the likes of Cannibal Corpse - saying that they are "death metal for beginners". So, in their need for acceptance, they completely miss the point.

And it's not death metal that this viewpoint is confined to. I've heard people extol the virtues of grind as a mix of jazz and death - which is funny as grind to me was always three chord anarcho-punk played at lightspeed.

So, in completely non-serious conclusion, DEATH TO BLASTING TECHNICAL DEATH, HAILZ TO RAW, OLD-SCHOOL, MAGGOT-INFESTED DEATH.

Dude you took that the complete wrong way. I know its death metal I just meant lyrical its Gorey. Look I some one who is just getting into death. and I understand what you mean't in your message but you didn't understand mine. I didn't mean as to it wasn't death metal or anything, that it is but I was saying that lyrical I don't like that. Deathcrush before mocked me because he took it the wrong way. I wasn't paying out the so called orginal sometimes gorey not techniqul (as you say) death metal its just that to me some of their names give me a laugh and I find the gorey lyrics silly but thats me. I know nothing about death metal compared to other people on this thread. I don't know if you understand me but I don't know how you got that implication out of my message? I knew they were death metal I don't believe in all these countless sub-genres like Gore metal I only said that because I mean't like I said above the lyrics or the names sound gorey.

BTW Deathcrush I am stupid am I because I think some of the names are dumb to me. I guess that makes me a fool. :rolleyes:

[the2stranger]

tell me how you do it!!! Do you have a recording of yourself?

I have no recording of myself.

and how to do growls?

uh, hard to explain actually.

make you mouth a O shape, and push air from your stomach up,, put no force on your throat, the sound should be made in the stomach, not the throat, otherwise you will damgae you're vocal chords.

you should feel the first ten centimeters of your stomach pushing towards your lower ribs. (does that m,ake sense?) :confused:
so that you know that you put enough force in to your vocals from your stomach out.

I hope this helps :)
although other people might have other techniques than me.

np: Behemoth - Mysterium Coniunctionis (Hermanubis)

[Slapping Penguin]

i trying but its not working I'm just whezzing :lol:

[Stoic]

I have no recording of myself.

and how to do growls?

uh, hard to explain actually.

make you mouth a O shape, and push air from your stomach up,, put no force on your throat, the sound should be made in the stomach, not the throat, otherwise you will damgae you're vocal chords.

you should feel the first ten centimeters of your stomach pushing towards your lower ribs. (does that m,ake sense?) :confused:
so that you know that you put enough force in to your vocals from your stomach out.

I hope this helps :)
although other people might have other techniques than me.


sure it helps man, it's a pretty accurate description, although I guess I'll get tired quickly and wont keep it for long. I'm looking forward to my neighboors going on holiday in August (btw, do we say in or on?).

i trying but its not working I'm just whezzing

:lol: same here. I suppose it's something you have to do loudly.

[the2stranger]

ON holiday IN August :p

[Stoic]

damn these prepositions!

/edits

EDIT

phew! Alright then :D

[Bartender]

I am stupid am I because I think some of the names are dumb to me. I guess that makes me a fool. :rolleyes:

Nah, it's dismissing music you could potentially love based on one aspect of it, especially something so superficial as the song titles, which makes you a fool.

You don't have to love (for example) early Death, but if you're exploring death metal then you can't really afford not to listen to it, or to ignore it.

[Slapping Penguin]

Yes Stoic you don't sit on august

[Stoic]

Nah, it's dismissing music you could potentially love based on one aspect of it, especially something so superficial as the song titles, which makes you a fool.

You don't have to love (for example) early Death, but if you're exploring death metal then you can't really afford not to listen to it, or to ignore it.

Well said, I guess this is what Jondur means here too:

Maybe you shouldn't have to own them but you should have at least heard them.

Yes Stoic you don't sit on august

Hey, it was correct :angry:
Seriously though prepositions have always been a problem. I cant think the way english people do.

[NJMetalMeister]

Seriously though prepositions have always been a problem. I cant think the way english people do.

I hear you, i have the exact same problem with german. Difference is german and english prepositions generally sound very similar but mean totally different things, whereas im sure at least the greek prepositions are quite different sounding from english.

Example:

there is a preposition in german "an" which is pronounced essentially like "on", but it doesnt mean on, it means adjacent to, but in english we can use on for that as well. you would use auf for "ontop of". Such as, if you were going to say "i am sitting on a chair" "ich sitze auf dem Stuhl" but "the picture is on the wall" is "Das Bild hangt an der Wand"

so annoying, but the worst is that the german word "bei" pronounced "by" is rarely used as "by" but has a multitude of other uses.

Prepositions are lame, we should use them all the same in every language.

[PaulG]

Does anyone know any bands similar to Beheaded? Especially the Recounts of Disembodiment style. Thanks.

[Slapping Penguin]

Nah, it's dismissing music you could potentially love based on one aspect of it, especially something so superficial as the song titles, which makes you a fool.

You don't have to love (for example) early Death, but if you're exploring death metal then you can't really afford not to listen to it, or to ignore it.

I never said I would dismiss it. God at least I'm giving any death a shot and not walking in and saying like some poofs do on this forum "Death metal is just noise and grunts, its sooooo lame" People you all hate me now for something I never meant so literally. I never said I would dismiss it I just said some of the names I thought were silly. Please don't take this the wrong way. There is reason for my thinking that the names are silly etc. You would to if you went to my school.


Crap. Why does everyone go for the widdly stuff. I'd say try:

Pull the Plug
Zombie Ritual
Living Monstrosity
Open Casket
Regurgitated Guts


Oh no I just read back.
Oh crap I just realised why everyone was flaming me. Those are not bands are they. They are Death songs. Crap sorry everyone I fell like a twit I thought they were bands god thats why everyone was going about how stupid I am not to try this stuff because Stoic talked about death songs and this guy said go for these death songs. Am I on the right track as too why I looked like a total smeghead?

[PaulG]

Oh crap I just realised why everyone was flaming me. Those are not bands are they. They are Death songs. Crap sorry everyone I fell like a twit I thought they were bands god thats why everyone was going about how stupid I am not to try this stuff because Stoic talked about death songs and this guy said go for these death songs. Am I on the right track as too why I looked like a total smeghead?

Yep, they are all early era Death songs.

[Slapping Penguin]

Now I understand please everybody try too forget my total gimpness I thought the guy was reckonmeding me bands that I thought had silly names.

Man I never get respect again :upset:

[Stoic]

I hear you, i have the exact same problem with german. Difference is german and english prepositions generally sound very similar but mean totally different things, whereas im sure at least the greek prepositions are quite different sounding from english.

Example:

there is a preposition in german "an" which is pronounced essentially like "on", but it doesnt mean on, it means adjacent to, but in english we can use on for that as well. you would use auf for "ontop of". Such as, if you were going to say "i am sitting on a chair" "ich sitze auf dem Stuhl" but "the picture is on the wall" is "Das Bild hangt an der Wand"

so annoying, but the worst is that the german word "bei" pronounced "by" is rarely used as "by" but has a multitude of other uses.

Prepositions are lame, we should use them all the same in every language.

Yes, the greek prepositions are totally different. Haha, I used to take german classes at school a few years ago and the example you mentioned was EXACTLY my problem! German are even wrose than english :lol:


Does anyone know any bands similar to Beheaded? Especially the Recounts of Disembodiment style. Thanks.

I'm relatively new to this kind of death and I'm not THAT familar with Beheaded (have just heard some random songs which I really liked) so these two suggestions might not be very accurate: Dying Fetus, Inveracity

EDIT

add Severed Savior too (how could I forget them?!) and maybe Disavowed although not quite groovy

[Stoic]

Now I understand please everybody try too forget my total gimpness I thought the guy was reckonmeding me bands that I thought had silly names.

Man I never get respect again :upset:

Dont worry man, it happens when you're new to something. Ask me anything about metalcore or classic rock and you'll see :p.

Besides, this alone...

I'm giving any death a shot and not walking in and saying like some poofs do on this forum "Death metal is just noise and grunts, its sooooo lame"

...is a reason to respect you :)

[Lord Abortion]

Gorey death owns all other death

aborted- parasitic flesh rejection rules

I remembered the morbid angel album I mentioned was blessed are the sick...

[CaptainWaits]

Oh my goodness. This band is incredible. Please listen to them.

http://www.purevolume.com/knifethepuppets

My god :eek:

[Stoic]

My god :eek:

what, what?! Where was this?

/listens

[manuscriptreplica]

they aren't incredible. They aren't incredible at all! :eek:

[CaptainWaits]

what, what?! Where was this?

/listens

There was discussion on it a couple of pages ago.

[Stoic]

OMG! :eek: OMG!

I was wearing headphones... :upset:

[Jondur]

Now I understand please everybody try too forget my total gimpness I thought the guy was reckonmeding me bands that I thought had silly names.

Man I never get respect again :upset:

To be fair, most of my rant wasn't aimed at you. I just feel that people are missing what I feel Death metal is all about. Now you may think that I'm being a bit arrogant but I've been into death metal for longer than most on here and I just think that all the fuss about musicianship etc is more for the benefit of those who otherwise may criticise our musical choices. Lets face it, no-one likes people to say "death metal is for talentless morons" so we reply well have a listen to Sleep Terror and say that's talentless. But in doing so we omit Autopsy who, if I'm honest, are not the most talented individuals, but they are 100 times the band Sleep Terror could ever be.

[superpeer]

To be fair, most of my rant wasn't aimed at you. I just feel that people are missing what I feel Death metal is all about. Now you may think that I'm being a bit arrogant but I've been into death metal for longer than most on here and I just think that all the fuss about musicianship etc is more for the benefit of those who otherwise may criticise our musical choices. Lets face it, no-one likes people to say "death metal is for talentless morons" so we reply well have a listen to Sleep Terror and say that's talentless. But in doing so we omit Autopsy who, if I'm honest, are not the most talented individuals, but they are 100 times the band Sleep Terror could ever be.


That's talent too, you know...

Anyway, which of these are worth to buy, try to be somewhat objective.

*Cathedral - Forest of Equilibrium
*Necrophagist - Epitaph
*Morbid Angel - Blessed are the Sick
*Children of Bodom - Hatebreeder

[Magicaltroll]

That's talent too, you know...

Anyway, which of these are worth to buy, try to be somewhat objective.

*Cathedral - Forest of Equilibrium
*Necrophagist - Epitaph
*Morbid Angel - Blessed are the Sick
*Children of Bodom - Hatebreeder
Cathedral is a pretty awesome band, although I've never heard that album.

And Sleep Terror rules in my opinion. Its shredding that I can listen to for more than 2 minutes.

[Arucard]

I like Sleep Terror too, but they would benefit from a vocalist. The jazzy breakdowns add to the music alot.

[Magicaltroll]

I like Sleep Terror too, but they would benefit from a vocalist. The jazzy breakdowns add to the music alot.
I know they would.
People don't think so alot of the time though. I don't know why really, I mean, the music would change a bit, but it would still be great.

[VeedBok]

Anyway, which of these are worth to buy, try to be somewhat objective.

*Cathedral - Forest of Equilibrium
*Necrophagist - Epitaph
*Morbid Angel - Blessed are the Sick
*Children of Bodom - Hatebreeder

they are all pretty awesome albums but I'd have to say Epitaph or Blessed are the Sick.

[Stoic]

And Sleep Terror rules in my opinion. Its shredding that I can listen to for more than 2 minutes.

But only a couple of songs are over two minutes in their album :p


*Cathedral - Forest of Equilibrium
*Necrophagist - Epitaph
*Morbid Angel - Blessed are the Sick

Forest of Equilibrium might be tiring if you're not in this kind of doom.
Same with Epitaph unless you can stand shredding for 30mins
Blessed are the Sick is pretty good and accessible for the average death metaller :)

[RCA]

That's talent too, you know...

Anyway, which of these are worth to buy, try to be somewhat objective.

*Cathedral - Forest of Equilibrium
*Necrophagist - Epitaph
*Morbid Angel - Blessed are the Sick
*Children of Bodom - Hatebreeder

Tough choice there.

All of them are worth your money. Go to the store, and whichever album your eyes land on first will be the one you buy. At least that's how I do it if I'm in a situation like yours.

[ATM]

I'd go with either CoB or Necrophagist.

[CaptainWaits]

I'd go with either CoB or Necrophagist.
As would I

[Stoic]

Tough choice there.

All of them are worth your money. Go to the store, and whichever album your eyes land on first will be the one you buy. At least that's how I do it if I'm in a situation like yours.

what if he begins from "A" and checks the stands alphabetically? :p Well at least this is what I do. Checking metal CDs in a store is pretty cool especially when no one's around you.

/antisocial

[Magicaltroll]

what if he begins from "A" and checks the stands alphabetically? :p Well at least this is what I do. Checking metal CDs in a store is pretty cool especially when no one's around you.

/antisocial
I know what you mean. I hate when theres people around you... And it feels like they're staring at you.

/paranoid

[RCA]

what if he begins from "A" and checks the stands alphabetically? :p Well at least this is what I do. Checking metal CDs in a store is pretty cool especially when no one's around you.

/antisocial

Well, I guess he'll be getting the Cathedral album then. :D

I like to be alone while browsing CD shelves as well.

[ATM]

Mainly because nosy people always try and look at what CD's I am interested in.

[Lord Abortion]

Jelle- all are good but blessed.... and hatebreeder would be my choices

[ninjamonkey]

nope< ihad another account before this one, which was just 'the stranger'
but it got perma banned, and I never even saw a reason to why in the banned section on the site subforum :confused:

so I made this account, I thoyught I had about 600 posts on the old account and join date may 04 or something. I would consider a merge but it seems as if my old account has dissapeared.

ps
I bought my Opeth, and Arcturus + Red Harvest tickets today

np: Solefald - charge of total affect.
Why merge? Why not just get a post count increase and change the join date.

Hmm, now that I think of it, I can get a merge with an account i used when i got temp banned.
what's your metal-rules user name? There's Tatooedninja or something like this, is it you?



sounds like your account was hacked...
On M-R I'm Melodeath. That's the name I use at M-A and pretty much everywhere else.

You live in Greece? Do they use the Euro?
I still only have two.
I've got 8/10 \m/
You're unlucky then. I even found a Sceptic album once in a non specialized mainstream CD store!
Are there many stores that specialize in metal? Are they many stores that specialize in other genres?
Well, if you like the band, more power to you. Actually, I hear they're a great live band with good stage presence. I take it you have gone/will go to shows, so all of us non-LoG fans will miss out on a great performance.

Nice avatar by the way. I was looking at Death logos earlier for a collage I'm making. I have a link somewhere to the site...

You may or may not have seen these (http://www.humandeath.de/Logos.htm)
Notic the inverted cross becoming simply a neutral cross in when Symbolic was released. :p
Maybe you shouldn't have to own them but you should have at least heard them. It may be a old-fashioned thing to do but one of the first things I used to do when I got a new CD (well LP or tape!) was to read the band's thanks lists and try and check out all the bands! Similarly if I heard a band namecheck another band as an influence I would check them out.

Do bands usually say who they have been influenced by in the booklet?
Well, I've heard 5/10 of the albums on that list, 6 if Deicide - Deicide was on there. I think I prefer Legion though.

This time around I'm definitly checking out the rest of those.
I don't rememeber you. Is this a new username?
Nvm: next post indicated who you were.
wow, he's so utr00 :p

These name changes are rather annoying. I mean, I see a new name in the last posts column and I wonder who the heck is this. Same happens with my own new name too :lol:
Haha, you wonder who Stoic is?
I haven't worked on the cover much actually. I'll get some of it done on the weekend, maybe even the vocals.
Which song are you doing?
tell me how you do it!!! Do you have a recording of yourself?

EDIT

In other news Vio-lence is changing his name into Apocalyptic Raids and Death to Pop Punk has changed it into ShadowsFallen. *sigh*
This is ridiculous. I don't know who anyone is. Mayeb I'll change my name to Melodeath :p
Oh no I just read back.
Oh crap I just realised why everyone was flaming me. Those are not bands are they. They are Death songs. Crap sorry everyone I fell like a twit I thought they were bands god thats why everyone was going about how stupid I am not to try this stuff because Stoic talked about death songs and this guy said go for these death songs. Am I on the right track as too why I looked like a total smeghead?
Yes, they are songs and not bands. But I don't see how that makes a difference. I don't blame you for being put off either. It's natural to be put off by a band with song titles that you think are typical of retarded music.
Does anyone know any bands similar to Beheaded? Especially the Recounts of Disembodiment style. Thanks.
Try Suffocation, Banished, Dehumanized, Brodequin, Cinerary, Gorgasm, Pyaemia, Sepsism, Severe Torture, Vile, etc...

NP: Empyrium - The Sad Song of the Wind

PS: I'll be goen for a week, possibly 2. I'm going to camp.

[Ad Absurdum]

I know what you mean. I hate when theres people around you... And it feels like they're staring at you.

/paranoid

Yeah, and when there's people around you also have to loudly complain about all the stuff being to mainstream and you can't buy that My Chemical Romance CD.

/hypocritical

[Rothmans]

Are red harvest any good?

I might check them out.

[Lord Abortion]

I'm sorry, I should have listened when you all said how bad 6 feet under were-

this is pathetic... what has chris barnes done to himself? his voice is bollocks now...

[Bartender]

Do bands usually say who they have been influenced by in the booklet?

I think he probably means more in interviews/articles, though I have seen people thanked as influences before.


Are red harvest any good?

I might check them out.

I've heard one track by them, I think, and it was..interesting. Toozey likes them, I think.

[Per Ardua Ad Astra]

Red harvest rock out

[Slapping Penguin]

Yes, they are songs and not bands. But I don't see how that makes a difference. I don't blame you for being put off either. It's natural to be put off by a band with song titles that you think are typical of retarded music.

Are you been sarcastic? No it did make a difference for me for I have heard great things about death. I just thought they were bands and with names like those I thought they might have been like Cannibal Corpse or have Gorey lyrics which I think is stupid. I never said though when I thought they were bands or songs I would not give it a shot.

retarded music

I don't think Death metal is retarded thats why I'm trying to get into it. I still trying to work out if you are flamming me or been serious. I gave Cyptopspy another try and it grew on me. I now think apart from the over growled vocals think its pretty cool. The drums I now enjoy.

[Bartender]

I think, if you want to try and get into Cryptopsy, it's best to start off with a view to just be impressed by Lord Worm's vocals, rather than really enjoying them. To that end, check out the song Open Face Surgery. The production is worse than their other albums, but I've known that scream it contains to convert several people.

[Magicaltroll]

Open Face Surgery rules.
Does he do "the" scream in concert too? I've only heard the intro of it on the live CD.

EDIT: I just heard it. Not half as great... Of course :p

[Rothmans]

I think, if you want to try and get into Cryptopsy, it's best to start off with a view to just be impressed by Lord Worm's vocals, rather than really enjoying them. To that end, check out the song Open Face Surgery. The production is worse than their other albums, but I've known that scream it contains to convert several people.

Yeah I love that song and you were one of the guys who converted me to them.

[RCA]

Open Face Surgery rules.
Does he do "the" scream in concert too? I've only heard the intro of it on the live CD.

From what I've heard, he does the scream LONGER when they play it live. :eek:

[Bartender]

Open Face Surgery rules.
Does he do "the" scream in concert too? I've only heard the intro of it on the live CD.

EDIT: I just heard it. Not half as great... Of course :p

I don't know. It's not him on None So Live anyway though (assuming that's what you're referring to).

[Magicaltroll]

He does it for about 24 seconds on None So Live, I just counted :p
I would love to hear it more low pitched though, I mean, I like higher pitched screams, but nothing beats a deep growl for me.

[RCA]

No, no. In their recent shows, he's done it longer.

[RiceMonster]

The song that got me into Cryptopsy, and made me appreciate death metal was Phobophile. So that would be the song I'd suggest.

[Huber]

Now that I've actually listened to some Cryptopsy and enjoyed it, I'd like to know...

I read somewhere that Flo does backing vocals. Any examples/songs?

[Lord Anthrax]

cryptopsy is pretty sweet, it happens about once a day where my band and i will be sitting around a table and someone will bust in with the opening to ambassador of pain....everyone just chimes in with their corresponding part....and the song just takes us away :P

[Magicaltroll]

I'v got a question also, why did Lord Worm leave and why is he back now?

[RiceMonster]

I'v got a question also, why did Lord Worm leave and why is he back now?
I think he left to become a teacher or something.

[RCA]

I thought he was a teacher before he joined Cryptopsy?

[Huber]

I left to become a teacher or something.

Oh man. Your new teacher walks in, and it's Lord Worm!

That'd be hilarious, and really cool at the same time.

[Magicaltroll]

I left to become a teacher or something.
"I"
:confused:

[Huber]

That's almost definetly a typo.

[Bartender]

I'v got a question also, why did Lord Worm leave and why is he back now?

I think he cited "personal reasons". Basically the touring and such was interfering too much with his life with his family.

EDIT: He worked as an English teacher (lecturer, I think) before and after being in Cryptopsy, but I don't think it was ever the reason he left.

I'm not sure why he came back, but I remember he explained himself in an interview on metallian sometime last year.

[RiceMonster]

"I"
:confused:
Typeo; I left out "think" and "he." :lol:

/edits post

[ninjamonkey]

Are you been sarcastic? No it did make a difference for me for I have heard great things about death. I just thought they were bands and with names like those I thought they might have been like Cannibal Corpse or have Gorey lyrics which I think is stupid. I never said though when I thought they were bands or songs I would not give it a shot.



I don't think Death metal is retarded thats why I'm trying to get into it. I still trying to work out if you are flamming me or been serious. I gave Cyptopspy another try and it grew on me. I now think apart from the over growled vocals think its pretty cool. The drums I now enjoy.
No. I wasn't sarcastic. I guess I see why it made a difference to you now.

And I know you don't think it's retarded. Neither do I. I was just saying that stupid titles can sometimes be an implication of a stupid song. Therefore, I don't blame you for being put off.
Open Face Surgery rules.
Does he do "the" scream in concert too? I've only heard the intro of it on the live CD.

EDIT: I just heard it. Not half as great... Of course :p
I think he does.

[Magicaltroll]

Typeo; I left out "think" and "he." :lol:

/edits post
:lol:
I was like "... Lor... Lord Worm?!"

[RiceMonster]

:lol:
I was like "... Lor... Lord Worm?!"
Yes, I am indeed Lord Worm. :p

/lets out minute long scream

[RCA]

:lol:
I was like "... Lor... Lord Worm?!"

And then he went "AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH" for 30 seconds and then said "Damn straight, kid." :lol:

EDIT: Nevermind, I wasn't paying attention.

[Magicaltroll]

:lol:

[James Van Halen]

Cryptopsy just sounds like a better version of Cannibal Corpse to me...

[Magicaltroll]

Cryptopsy just sounds like a better version of Cannibal Corpse to me...
Cannibla Corpse kinda suck... Alot.

[black\m/metal]

Slit your guts is my favorite Cryptopsy song. They rule!

[Slapping Penguin]

Original Posted by: Bartender
I think, if you want to try and get into Cryptopsy, it's best to start off with a view to just be impressed by Lord Worm's vocals, rather than really enjoying them. To that end, check out the song Open Face Surgery. The production is worse than their other albums, but I've known that scream it contains to convert several people.

Thanks alot man I will try again. I have no dislike of growls or anything I just think when it starts to become that incomprehensible it is just sound like a man pushing a rock hard poo. Don't get me wrong the sheer fact that his voice is that low and can do that stuff is awsome I mean he sounds like his a massive giant with vocal cords so thick they could be used as chair lift cables but its not cool when your trying to listen to a song. Yeah screams are pretty cool I will check Open Face Surgery out.

No. I wasn't sarcastic. I guess I see why it made a difference to you now.

And I know you don't think it's retarded. Neither do I. I was just saying that stupid titles can sometimes be an implication of a stupid song. Therefore, I don't blame you for being put off.

Cool thanks mate I guess to me its like if the band is named Flamming Blood Scraped Anus Nuts then it sounds like they are going to have alot of gorey vocals and maybe be along the lines of similar bands eg Cannibal Corspe. But say if its one bands song then that I can put up with then thats cool because they are most likely to not all be gorey lyrics and ridiculously insane death metal riffs.

The song that got me into Cryptopsy, and made me appreciate death metal was Phobophile. So that would be the song I'd suggest.

Yes thats one of the Crytospy songs I have it is very cool.

I heard a bit of Carcass today just a tiny bit and it sounded pretty good.

To get a little a little discussion going what are peoples opinions on the Haunted. If you hear songs like Victim Iced, Under the Surface, Human Debris and Leech they sound very thrash death to me. (but what do I know honestly :confused: )

[Lord Abortion]

Cannibla Corpse kinda suck... Alot.
I hate you :p

I also love none so vile, great vocals and an excellent slab of DM

is it not lord worm on none so live?
because I have the live version and I don't know his voice well enough to tell

[Slapping Penguin]

Yeah it would be the new vocalist only came in "and then you'l beg" I think thats what its called.

[supra_speed]

What are the best of the best songs I should d/l.. by Death.

[funk_metalguitarist]

Nah it was Martin Lecroix (spelling?) who sang on None so live. And Mike DeSalvo replaced Lord Worm since Whisper Supremacy and also sung on And then you will beg.

Supra speed, check out Scavenger of human sorrow, the spirit crusher, pull the plug and the philosopher by Death.

[NJMetalMeister]

What are the best of the best songs I should d/l.. by Death.

it depends, do you want more classic death metal, or the more progressive kinda sounding stuff?

[Slapping Penguin]

Hey NJ did you used to be 12oncesofhate because thats a killer avatar man.

[NJMetalMeister]

yes i did.

[br3ad_man]

Which song are you doing?

Transylvanian Hunger

[RCA]

What are the best of the best songs I should d/l.. by Death.

Zombie Ritual
Left To Die
Spiritual Healing
Flattening Of Emotions
Crystal Mountain
The Philosopher
Misanthrope
Bite The Pain
Flesh And The Power It Holds (1 & 2)

Their cover of Judas Priest's Painkiller is great as well.

[the2stranger]

it depends, do you want more classic death metal, or the more progressive kinda sounding stuff?

I like the proggish stuff best, so I will be recommending the entire 'Human' album and individual thought patterns to him :p

np: Beneath The Massacre - Regurgitated Lullaby For The Born Dead

[Corporal Compendia]

You know dudes... Deceased rules. I just picked up the live album and the covers album... I'm not too big on live albums, but this is good. Good indeed.

...and Luck of the Corpse is a classic.

[Stoic]

You live in Greece? Do they use the Euro?

Thankfully yes. It's much more easier for me to purchase albums from europian lables.


Are there many stores that specialize in metal? Are they many stores that specialize in other genres?

I know 5 stores that sell exclusively metal music. There are others too selling rock/metal records, some second hand stores and vinyl stores. As for other genres I reallly dont know but I suppose there are.


Notic the inverted cross becoming simply a neutral cross in when Symbolic was released.

yeah and some people blame Chuck for being a "traitor" and becoming christian (untr00). You've read the anus article about it, havent you?

Do bands usually say who they have been influenced by in the booklet?

Not exactly they dont say it directly I guess. Extract from Origin's Informis Infinitas Inhunanitas: "To Chuck Schuldiner, thank you for all I have learnt from you and your art. Rest in Peace"


Haha, you wonder who Stoic is?

**** yeah :lol:


Yeah I love that song and you were one of the guys who converted me to them.

/wants to be converted too


The song that got me into Cryptopsy, and made me appreciate death metal was Phobophile. So that would be the song I'd suggest.

This is an incredible song but my feelings are mixed about it. There is this touching neoclassical souding riff (yeah I'm not sure about the scale I suck) and Lord Worm's vocals over it. I'm not sure if I want to be moved or laugh if you know what I mean

Deceased rules

Funny, saw an album of theirs in a second hand store just today



Well today I went down town to this mainstream chain CD store with the awesome (and quite expensive :() metal collection and found these:

Decapitated - Winds of Creations
Necrophagist - Epitaph
Origin - Echoes of Decimation
Nevermore - Dreaming Neon Black
Sieges Even - Lifecycle

I wanted them all but in the end I only got the necrophagist (finally!) and the origin. Will certainly go back for the rest some time if they're not gone. At least decapitated and nevermore are easy to find in mailorders but the Sieges Even...

I also got a used Symphony X - The Odyssey for 5 euros There was also a Cirith Ungol album, is it rare or something (not the place to ask but anyways)? I dont like them much.

:cool:

[Magicaltroll]

NP-Mithras- Worlds Beyond The Veil

This album/song is incredibly awesome. I listened to another one of theirs, called Forever Advancing... Legions. From a few short listens I ddin't like it as much as this, so I turned it back to this album :D

[Stoic]

I consider giving Mithras another chance. They seem to be a band that gradually grows on you and it would be stupid to miss their music just because I'm not patient enough. Ok, any song suggestion?

[Ad Absurdum]

I consider giving Mithras another chance. They seem to be a band that gradually grows on you and it would be stupid to miss their music just because I'm not patient enough. Ok, any song suggestion?
I've only got one album, but off it I would recommend:

Worlds Beyond the Veil
Lords and Masters
Psyrens
Beyond the Eyes of Man

I can upload some if you want.

[Shadows]

I wanted them all but in the end I only got the necrophagist (finally!) and the origin. Will certainly go back for the rest some time if they're not gone. At least decapitated and nevermore are easy to find in mailorders but the Sieges Even...
Does Necrophagist work? I actually bought Epitaph from a store only to find out that it wouldn't play...I returned it for an exchnge and the same thing happened. They later poosted on their official site that a bad batch of Epitaph copies was released. I was PISSED. :angry:

/LOVES Necrophagist

[RCA]

yeah and some people blame Chuck for being a "traitor" and becoming christian (untr00). You've read the anus article about it, havent you?

ANUS is a crap website.

[Stoic]

Worlds Beyond the Veil
Lords and Masters
Psyrens
Beyond the Eyes of Man

I can upload some if you want.

Thank you :)
I'll ask for uploads if I'm not lucky on soulseek.

Does Necrophagist work? I actually bought Epitaph from a store only to find out that it wouldn't play...I returned it for an exchnge and the same thing happened. They later poosted on their official site that a bad batch of Epitaph copies was released. I was PISSED.

/LOVES Necrophagist

:lol:
seriously? You must be cursed or something man, fortunately my own copy is ok (hehe :D )

ANUS is a crap website.

Indeed, they really piss me off at times.

ANUS=you know what it is ;)
ANUS=American Nihilistic Underground Society
ANUS= in ancient greek, I'm not mistaken, there's a word "ANOYΣ" that stands for the one has no mind, who doesnt think properly (stupid obviously). :p

[Lord Anthrax]

i'm not gonna bother paging back how flamed i probably got when i confused Kataklysm with Cryptopsy back there. But i'm assuming it was pretty bad. MY BAD everyone hah. i haven't heard too much cryptopsy now that i recall, just Flo's drum solo's which are insane.

[Magicaltroll]

i'm not gonna bother paging back how flamed i probably got when i confused Kataklysm with Cryptopsy back there. But i'm assuming it was pretty bad. MY BAD everyone hah. i haven't heard too much cryptopsy now that i recall, just Flo's drum solo's which are insane.
You should try to get into them, they're a great band.

[black\m/metal]

I love Cryptopsy and I am also a drummer and would die to hear Flo's drum solos but i havnt been able to find any!? Where do you find them??
*Flo fanboy

[black\m/metal]

Oops I forgot, I heard a Kataklysm song that was awesome but I forgot what it was called, but I want to get one of their albums off of soulseek, which is their best??

[VeedBok]

I would say Shadows and Dust is Kataklysms best release. Im not a huge kataklysm fan though

[VeedBok]

I picked up Dying Fetus- Stop at Nothing and it is an amazing death metal CD. It didnt get the greatest rating but it deserves way better than it got.

[black\m/metal]

Dying fetus played almost every song off that cd, as well as many others, when I saw them live. They played them flawless though. I was very impressed. Check out Purification Through Violence or Killing On Adrenaline if you liked Stop at Nothing and want more.

[Stoic]

It's quite good, I like most of the songs and especially Institution Of Deceit.

[craggyisland]

I love Cryptopsy and I am also a drummer and would die to hear Flo's drum solos but i havnt been able to find any!? Where do you find them??
*Flo fanboy
There's one on None So Live, download here ( http://s28.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2NI14OUA844KY05O4PXS8ADDTY). There's a video around somewhere as well I think, but I've not got it yet.

Haven't posted here in a while...

[Stoic]

here in particular or in the board? Been busy?

[craggyisland]

here in particular or in the board? Been busy?
On the forums in general, had some mental, ahem, "issues"... keep me busy for a few months. Still going on, but getting sorted :)

Anyone in here know of Psychotogen?

[Magicaltroll]

The new Hypocrisy is really good.
But I don't know why I've heard them being called Black Metal, because on this one, I would say they took more of a Melodic Death approach. But that's just me.

[ninjamonkey]

Hypocrisy has always been death/melodic death I think.
yeah and some people blame Chuck for being a "traitor" and becoming christian (untr00). You've read the anus article about it, havent you?
Seen, yes, but I haven't read it.

I'm posting from a university right now. Annoyingly, there is no right clicking allowed. Haha

[RCA]

I picked up Demigod's Slumber Of Sullen Eyes today at a local shop here in Germany. I was so happy; that album's been OOP for awhile now.

[black\m/metal]

There's one on None So Live, download here. There's a video around somewhere as well I think, but I've not got it yet.


Thanks a ton for the link man. Also I want to get into more death bands like
Nile, Katalkysm, Carcass(melo-death), Cryptopsy, Nehemiah, but i dislike bands like In Flames ect. what do you guys reccomend?

[ninjamonkey]

And it's an incredible album.

How much money?

[RCA]

And it's an incredible album.

How much money?

3 Euros; I don't know what that converts to in American currency.

[hethamulburton]

lets say 5 bucks

[CaptainWaits]

I would say Shadows and Dust is Kataklysms best release. Im not a huge kataklysm fan though

"Shadows and Dust" and "Epic: The Poetry of War" are thier two best.

Kataklysm = One of my favorite Death Metal bands

[Ad Absurdum]

3 Euros; I don't know what that converts to in American currency.

About $3.60, that's really cheap!

/moves to mainland Europe

[RCA]

About $3.60, that's really cheap!

Whoa, that was a steal! :cool:

[slaughteredfirst]

Thanks a ton for the link man. Also I want to get into more death bands like
Nile, Katalkysm, Carcass(melo-death), Cryptopsy, Nehemiah, but i dislike bands like In Flames ect. what do you guys reccomend?


Check out Behemoth if you havnt already.


I really like Dying Fetus. They have a myspace so just search for em on there.

Immolation are fairly good. I dont like them as much as other people do but what can I do.

Try Exhumed, Suffocation, Impaled, Aborted, Grave, Unleased, and Krismn *sp?*.

[RCA]

Immolation are fairly good. I dont like them as much as other people do but what can I do.

I had a hard time getting into them, probably due to the weird time signatures they play in and the abnormal riffs they write. Although I think if one starts with Dawn of Possession and work their way through their discography chronologically, they should have no problem getting accustomed to the band.

[slaughteredfirst]

I had a hard time getting into them, probably due to the weird time signatures they play in and the abnormal riffs they write. Although I think if one starts with Dawn of Possession and work their way through their discography chronologically, they should have no problem getting accustomed to the band.

Yea I have the same problem. I only have Harnessing Ruin. I listen to it everyonce in a while.

[RCA]

Yea I have the same problem. I only have Harnessing Ruin. I listen to it everyonce in a while.

Oh man, I highly recommend you listen to Dawn Of Possession. It's an old school death metal classic. :D

[ATM]

ICB told me they were a good band to check out, but I haven't done so yet. Who do they sound like?

[slaughteredfirst]

Oh man, I highly recommend you listen to Dawn Of Possession. It's an old school death metal classic. :D


Alright, I will deffintly check it out...............crap there is another cd to the Must get list. :lol:

[RCA]

ICB told me they were a good band to check out, but I haven't done so yet. Who do they sound like?

Think Suffocation mixed with weird