any other death heads?

[Riva]

Well, I dislike the killing of animals, yet I wouldn't mind seeing certain human beings dying in gory ways.

I also listen to Chainsaw Guts****, but I hate horror movies. I also listen to most kinds of rock/metal and some classical/jazz/blues and even some kinds of pop! *gasps*

[Bartender]

Sleep Terror is insane.

That comment on their myspace was great. "It's about time someone mixed jazz and death metal" or something.

[Riva]

That comment on their myspace was great. "It's about time someone mixed jazz and death metal" or something.

Yeah, Ephel Duath are obviously poseurs of the pure skill that is Sleep Terror. :)

[Jondur]

Would you listen to a Christian band if, say musically, it was as good as your favorite band?

/Note, I don't listen to any Christian music...

One of my favourite bands is Christian. And many of my other favourite bands have lyrics that verge on being Christian. It doesn't bother me in the slightest.

At least Christian bands are being honest. Do you really think death and black metal bands believe the tripe they sing about? Most of them are nice middle class kids.

[Lord Abortion]

as far as christian music goes... Stryper are about as far as I have listened to it.

[Riva]

At least Christian bands are being honest. Do you really think death and black metal bands believe the tripe they sing about? Most of them are nice middle class kids.

I'm not going to outline the similarities between mainstream "gangsta" rap and "troo" black metal, for fear of being both ostracised and castrated by various members of this thread.

[LeperAffinity]

You guys should check out my buddy's band Cryptic Warning. It's death metal-influenced technical thrash. If you like it I might upload some more songs from the new album(released Monday).

http://www.myspace.com/crypticwarning

[Lord Abortion]

that is the reason I loathe and despise rap
most of the things rappers talk about are worse than say, cannibal corpse lyrics

to put it into context- how many members of cannibal corpse have been arrested for murder?- none

how many rappers are arrested for drug pushing, assault, rape, sexual harrassment, robbery, murder and other gun crime?- I think it's more than 0...

It blurs the barriers between fiction and reality... heavy metal is accused of corrupting today's youth, and when a metal band is accused of influencing murderers and nobody draws the same corrolation between rap and the chavs that do exactly what the rappers talk about...

and metal bands are clearly talking ficticiously.. but rap is things that the rappers really do...

[LeperAffinity]

that is the reason I loathe and despise rap
most of the things rappers talk about are worse than say, cannibal corpse lyrics

to put it into context- how many members of cannibal corpse have been arrested for murder?- none

how many rappers are arrested for drug pushing, assault, rape, sexual harrassment, robbery, murder and other gun crime?- I think it's more than 0...

It blurs the barriers between fiction and reality... heavy metal is accused of corrupting today's youth, and when a metal band is accused of influencing murderers and nobody draws the same corrolation between rap and the chavs that do exactly what the rappers talk about...

and metal bands are clearly talking ficticiously.. but rap is things that the rappers really do...
While I agree with what you're saying, that's more than a little biased. You're comparing the acts of every rapper in the genre with those of just five guys from one band. Once you spread it out to include all metal, then all of a sudden that zero gets more than a little higher.

[Lord Abortion]

While I agree with what you're saying, that's more than a little biased. You're comparing the acts of every rapper in the genre with those of just five guys from one band. Once you spread it out to include all metal, then all of a sudden that zero gets more than a little higher.
admittedly that IS biased... but excepting the black metal arrests in the early 90's how many metal band members have been arrested for murder?

I can't think of any of the top of my head

[ICB]

that is the reason I loathe and despise rap
most of the things rappers talk about are worse than say, cannibal corpse lyrics

to put it into context- how many members of cannibal corpse have been arrested for murder?- none

how many rappers are arrested for drug pushing, assault, rape, sexual harrassment, robbery, murder and other gun crime?- I think it's more than 0...

It blurs the barriers between fiction and reality... heavy metal is accused of corrupting today's youth, and when a metal band is accused of influencing murderers and nobody draws the same corrolation between rap and the chavs that do exactly what the rappers talk about...

and metal bands are clearly talking ficticiously.. but rap is things that the rappers really do...

Well, all rap today is just focused on "being a gangster", money, drugs, women, etc...it's all flash. Most of the popular rap artists today don't even really rap, they just talk. I agree with you on the whole subject, but I have to say that old school rap was actually pretty good. Nobody bragged about how tough they were, it was just a fun, who-gives-a-**** genre. It's kind of weird for me to say this because I'm always preaching metal around here at school, but old school rap was actually listenable. Rap shouldn't have become a whole "thug war".

[Hammerheart]

Did you guys see the interview with Varg on Metalcrypt?

According to that, we should see some new Burzum material that sounds like the Burzum of old.

[LeperAffinity]

admittedly that IS biased... but excepting the black metal arrests in the early 90's how many metal band members have been arrested for murder?

I can't think of any of the top of my head
The number for murder is low, but you said
how many rappers are arrested for drug pushing, assault, rape, sexual harrassment, robbery, murder and other gun crime?
Metalheads have had a long standing history with drugs. Assault, rape, sexual harassment...off the top of my head there was Ghaal from Gorgoroth's assault case, and the rape claim against the two touring guitarists for Satyricon. And if you exclude the black metal arrests form the 90s, you'll have to exclude the casualties from the East coast-West coast war during the late 90s as well, because those were both the highest points in criminal activity for both genres.

[Bartender]

that is the reason I loathe and despise rap
most of the things rappers talk about are worse than say, cannibal corpse lyrics

You're generalising, horrendously. The fact that some rappers (mostly in the mainstream, in this case) talk about such things says nothing about what all rappers rap about. That's as bad as the people who makes threads saying "why do people listen to heavy metal, it's all just about satan and killing".

It blurs the barriers between fiction and reality... heavy metal is accused of corrupting today's youth, and when a metal band is accused of influencing murderers and nobody draws the same corrolation between rap and the chavs that do exactly what the rappers talk about...


Yes they do. Tipper Gore and the PMRC concentrated just as much, if not more, on the effects of rap music as heavy metal in the late 80s and early 90s.

[Dancin' Man]

Yeah, Ephel Duath are obviously poseurs of the pure skill that is Sleep Terror. :)
Watch it there. Ephel Duath don't play death metal anyway. It used to be black and now is just very jazzy progressive hardcore and super awesome.

[LegionsofMarduk]

Thought you guys might find this interesting.

The 100 greatest death/black metal bands:
http://www.digitaldreamdoor.com/pages/best_artists-dmetal.html

The 100 greatest death/black metal albums:
http://www.digitaldreamdoor.com/pages/best_albums-dmetal.html

I have to admit. Those lists are a hell of a lot better than most of the crap lists that get put out by Revolver and the like.

[Dancin' Man]

Except that Venom, CoB, Meshuggah, Anathema, Amorphis, Therion, Hatebreed and Shadows Fall plus a few others don't play black or death metal. Oh well. In general, a very good list. I like seeing Behemoth up there.


5. To Mega Therion - Celtic Frost
6. Under the Sign: The Sign of the Black Mark - Bathory
7. Scum - Napalm Death
9. From Enslavement to Obliteration - Napalm Death
13. Deicide - Decide
14. Left Hand Path - Entombed
15. Human - Death
16. Clandestine - Entombed
18. Unquestionable Presence - Atheist
22. Individual Thought Patterns - Death
25. Skydancer/Of Chaos and Eternal Night - Dark Tranquility
26. Pure Holocaust - Immortal
27. Focus - Cynic
28. n the Nightside Eclipse - Emperor
29. Fear Emptiness Despair - Napalm Death
30. Heartwork - Carcass
31. Wildhoney - Tiamat
32. Wolverine Blues - Entombed
34. Bergtatt - Ulver
35. Purgatory Afterglow - Edge of Sanity
36. The Gallery - Dark Tranquility
37. Destroy Erase Improve - Meshuggah
38. Slaughter of the Soul - At the Gates
39. Jester Race - In Flames
40. Draconian Times - Paradise Lost
41. Battles in the North - Immortal
43. Diatribes - Napalm Death
44. Passage - Samael
46. None So Vile - Cryptopsy
47. Swansong - Carcass
48. Storm of the Light's Bane - Dissection
49. The Angel and the Dark River - My Dying Bride
50. Anthems to the Welkin at Dusk - Emperor
51. The Olden Domain - Borknagar
52. Enthrone Darkness Triumphant - Dimmu Borgir
55. Theli - Therion
58. My Arms, Your Hease - Opeth
60. Sound of Perserverance - Death
61. Still Life - Opeth
66. Prometheus: The Discipline of Fire & Demise - Emperor
67. Blackwater Park - Opeth
68. Secret of the Runes - Therion
69. The Dreadful Hours - My Dying Bride
70. Monumension - Enslaved
71. Deliverance - Opeth
72. The Sham Mirrors - Arcturus
73. In Their Darkened Shrines - Nile
75. Zos Kia Cultus - Behemoth
76. Souvenirs - The Gathering
77. Lemuria/Sirius B - Therion
78. A Natural Disaster - Anathema
80. Demigod - Behemoth
81. Harnessing Ruin - Immolation
84. Scream Bloody Gore - Death
85. Blood Fire Death - Bathory
87. Symphonies of Sickness - Carcass
88. Hammerheart - Bathory
92. Death by Manipulation - Napalm Death
94. Effigy of the Forgotten - Suffocation
95. Necrotocism: Descanting the Insalubrious - Carcass
97. Astral Sleep - Tiamat
100. The Karelian Isthmus - Amorphis

Not a bad list when I like that many of them. Of course, a large number of the most important black metal albums of all time and Elvenfris are missing but seeing Demigod, Bergtatt, Prometheus:The Discipline of Fire & Demise, The Olden Domain, Blood Fire Death, The Sham Mirrors and Unquestionable Presence all on one list made me very happy.

[LeperAffinity]

The fact that Hatebreed was even on there, 12 spaces above Atheist, removes all credibility from that list.

[Dancin' Man]

The fact that Hatebreed was even on there, 12 spaces above Atheist, removes all credibility from that list.

The fact that Hatebreed wasn't in the top ten makes that list infinitely more credible than most "best" lists.

[LeperAffinity]

The fact that Hatebreed wasn't in the top ten makes that list infinitely more credible than most "best" lists.
Yes, but that's like comparing manure to a skunk. Sure, one doesn't smell as bad, but they're both still horrendous.

[Arucard]

Nice list, pretty acurate if you ask me.

[ninjamonkey]

I'm not going to outline the similarities between mainstream "gangsta" rap and "troo" black metal, for fear of being both ostracised and castrated by various members of this thread.
I'd like to hear it. If you don't wanna do it here, IM me.
Did you guys see the interview with Varg on Metalcrypt?

According to that, we should see some new Burzum material that sounds like the Burzum of old.
lol, what happened to guitars being black?
Except that Venom, CoB, Meshuggah, Anathema, Amorphis, Therion, Hatebreed and Shadows Fall plus a few others don't play black or death metal. Oh well. In general, a very good list. I like seeing Behemoth up there.
Since when are Therion and Amorphis not death metal.

[NJMetalMeister]

Therion hasnt been death metal for like at least 10 years now.

[ninjamonkey]

ive never heard anyone not call them death metal.

People still call Ulver and Burzum bm, even though their later albums are ambient.

[ICB]

I'd like to hear it. If you don't wanna do it here, IM me.

lol, what happened to guitars being black?

Since when are Therion and Amorphis not death metal.

Amorphis has been lacking the "metal" in their sound for quite some time.

[ninjamonkey]

^^^^^
I find it funny to say a band is not dm when their early albums were.

[NJMetalMeister]

I find it funny to call Therion "death metal" when their last like 340924309423 releases were very symphonic and operatic.

[ninjamonkey]

i find you funny

FAG

It's not like they were refering to their non-dm albums in the list. (Unless I am assuming wrongly, I can't even see the lists).

[Bartender]

I can see what ninjamonkey's getting at.

[superpeer]

Maybe, but they could have put (early) next to it, like they did for Sepultura.

[Dancin' Man]

I can see what ninjamonkey's getting at.

Me too. I mispoke, especially on the aprt of Amorphis because The Karelian Isthmus is death metal. I was mostly referring to the fact that both Therion and Amorphis have been quite sometime without DM in their sound.

[ninjamonkey]

Yes.

This isn't really very important.

My gf showed me Mortifera last night. That is some good bm.

[Dancin' Man]

I take it that is true BM?

I was listening to In Flames today and decided I really dislike a lot of what it is but the occaional riff here and there would sound great in contrast to something really brutal. I am also starting to like Anders' vocals. They have a cool quality to them and I like how they fade in and out of screaming.

[i am the robots]

I take it that is true BM?

I was listening to In Flames today and decided I really dislike a lot of what it is but the occaional riff here and there would sound great in contrast to something really brutal. I am also starting to like Anders' vocals. They have a cool quality to them and I like how they fade in and out of screaming.

What's wrong with the riffage, and what album are you talking about?

Cause on whoracle, I think the riffage is amazing, but on Soundtrack... it's meh, but I enjoy it.

[Dancin' Man]

It was R2R I think. Not sure, I was listening to a mix. I am nota fan of constant very melodic riffing. I prefer it to be a little more rare so that it really shines out. Vehemence is a good example of a band that does this well. Very brutal but occasional very melodic riffs appear and contrast well.

[i am the robots]

It was R2R I think. Not sure, I was listening to a mix. I am nota fan of constant very melodic riffing. I prefer it to be a little more rare so that it really shines out. Vehemence is a good example of a band that does this well. Very brutal but occasional very melodic riffs appear and contrast well.

Are the vocals high pitched screaming, or mid-ranged growling?

[Dancin' Man]

Kind of somewhere between singing and mid range screams. The slide back and forth betwen the two. Despite being an ex-super fan of In Flames, I never really learned much about their sound other than I liked most of it and the older stuff was a little less accesible.

[HappyMarshmellow]

Vehemence is way too metalcore for me, at least from what I've heard.

Half the members are in a metalcore band, apparently.

[i am the robots]

Kind of somewhere between singing and mid range screams. The slide back and forth betwen the two. Despite being an ex-super fan of In Flames, I never really learned much about their sound other than I liked most of it and the older stuff was a little less accesible.

haha, it sounds like it's probably off of Clayman or Reroute To Remain.

[i am the robots]

Vehemence is way too metalcore for me, at least from what I've heard.

Half the members are in a metalcore band, apparently.

What's wrong with being Metalcore? Use a term more like: Vehemence is way too generic and cliche for me.

[ninjamonkey]

I take it that is true BM?

I was listening to In Flames today and decided I really dislike a lot of what it is but the occaional riff here and there would sound great in contrast to something really brutal. I am also starting to like Anders' vocals. They have a cool quality to them and I like how they fade in and out of screaming.
I don't know what true bm is. As far as I'm concerned, grimness, tr00ness, kvlt, etc. do not exist.

Mortifera is the most melodic bm I have ever heard.

EDIT: Vehemence is not remotely metalcore. One member usedto be in a metalcore band. It's not like that means anything.

[Bartender]

Vehemence is way too metalcore for me, at least from what I've heard.

Half the members are in a metalcore band, apparently.

I can understand why you might not like metalcore, but how does members of a non-metalcore band also being in a metalcore band affect their non-metalcore band? Cases in point; aren't members of Arghoslent and Grand Belial's Key in a metalcore project together?

[Dancin' Man]

Listen to God Was Created and The Thoughts from Which I Hide in order to truly appreciate Vehemence. Their latest album is basically balls. The older stuff was quite good. Death metal with an occasional very melodic riff. They are signed to metal blade so you have to expect a bit of that metal core sound, fortunately, they take the good parts (catchy very melodic riffs) and play them once in the whole song. This prevents the boring factor you get from metalcore when the same riff is played for 3 minutes straight.

Summation - Metal Blade records is the most metalcore part of Vehemence. The latest album has got nothing on the first two.

Eleventeen - Dismiss the Cynics. Do In Flames have any more songs like this where the dynamic changes? Does their drummer always play such boring parts?

[Cardboard Headgear]

They are signed to metal blade so you have to expect a bit of that metal core sound, fortunately, they take the good parts (catchy very melodic riffs) and play them once in the whole song.
Being on Metal Blade does not instantaneaously make you a metalcore band. And also, Vehemence are not taking 'catchy melodic riffs' from metalcore, metalcore took that from the Gothenburg style.

[One Step Beyond]

Since we are on the suubject of blackmetal/metalcore crossovers, what exactly is The Black Dahlia Murder? I love them, they have some melodic death, metalcore, and black all blended together. I know many are giong to say they aren't true enough or too metalcore. On metalarchives.com it labels them as melodic death but when I hear bands like Amon Amarth or Arsis, I can't really notice too many similarities.

[Dancin' Man]

Being on Metal Blade does not instantaneaously make you a metalcore band. And also, Vehemence are not taking 'catchy melodic riffs' from metalcore, metalcore took that from the Gothenburg style.

Yes but I have a feeling that Vehemence got those riggs from metalcore, because they tour with metalcore bands and one member was in a metalcore band while none of the members have been in Gotheburg style bands, at least none that appear on MA.

If someone takes a pen from you, then I take the pen from them am I taking the pen from you, or the other person? This isn't the 7 degrees of seperation in metal game.

[LeperAffinity]

Since we are on the suubject of blackmetal/metalcore crossovers, what exactly is The Black Dahlia Murder? I love them, they have some melodic death, metalcore, and black all blended together. I know many are giong to say they aren't true enough or too metalcore. On metalarchives.com it labels them as melodic death but when I hear bands like Amon Amarth or Arsis, I can't really notice too many similarities.
Listen to At the Gates, especially on Slaughter of the Soul, and you'll hear the similiarities.

[One Step Beyond]

Listen to At the Gates, especially on Slaughter of the Soul, and you'll hear the similiarities.
For some reason At the Gates didn't even come to mind while ago. So TBDM is melodic death after I guess :p

[Corporal Compendia]

Being on Metal Blade does not instantaneaously make you a metalcore band

Maybe he thinks Gorerotted are metalcore too.
Vehemence are totally gay now...and they have a new, totally gay singer to match.

[Freezing Moon]

The only Vehemence I've heard is God Was Created. I like it a lot.

They're coming to play near me soon though, but if they completely suck now I may not want to go.

[Dancin' Man]

The only Vehemence I've heard is God Was Created. I like it a lot.

They're coming to play near me soon though, but if they completely suck now I may not want to go.

Check their playlists from recent shows. If it includes a lot of stuff off of the first two albums, go. A few new, worse songs can't kill you.

Corporal - I was making a generalization of Metalblade. You cannot deny that for the most part, Metalblade employs metalcore bands.

[Freezing Moon]

Check their playlists from recent shows. If it includes a lot of stuff off of the first two albums, go. A few new, worse songs can't kill you.

Yeah, that's what I'll probably do. Not many very good bands come around here, so I may just go anyway. Especially if they play stuff from the first two.

I missed the Kreator/Vader show, so I don't want to miss out on anything else good.

[LeperAffinity]

Corporal - I was making a generalization of Metalblade. You cannot deny that for the most part, Metalblade employs metalcore bands.
Cattle Decapitation
Cannibal Corpse
Bolt Thrower
Goatwhore
Vader
Black Dahlia Murder

...to name a few. Just because they've signed alot of Metalcore recently does not mean that the majority of their roster is compromied of metalcore. Hell, go to Metal-archives and search by label, and see the bands on their roster.

[ninjamonkey]

Yes but I have a feeling that Vehemence got those riggs from metalcore, because they tour with metalcore bands and one member was in a metalcore band while none of the members have been in Gotheburg style bands, at least none that appear on MA.

If someone takes a pen from you, then I take the pen from them am I taking the pen from you, or the other person? This isn't the 7 degrees of seperation in metal game.
The only member who used to be in a metalcore band is the vocalist. I doubt he has much influence. Besides, I hear no metalcore qualities in Vehemence.

Go see Vehemence. It's not like the new album is bad. It's just not as good as God Was Created.
Listen to At the Gates, especially on Slaughter of the Soul, and you'll hear the similiarities.
Precisely. Anyone who says BDM is metalcore is basing on image and not music.

NP: Hetsheads - Brutal Exhordation

[Freezing Moon]

Go see Vehemence. It's not like the new album is bad. It's just not as good as God Was Created.

Yeah, I will probably end up going. It's only 8 dollars, but it's about 2 and a half hours away.

Edit: So the show will be Vehemence, Crematorium, Cassidy, The Blood Between Us. Are any of those others good? I've only heard Vehemence.


The new (?) interview with Varg is pretty interesting. I think it's funny how he changed his mind about guitars being used for ****** music or whatever he thought of them.

[One Step Beyond]

Yeah, I will probably end up going. It's only 8 dollars, but it's about 2 and a half hours away.

Edit: So the show will be Vehemence, Crematorium, Cassidy, The Blood Between Us. Are any of those others good? I've only heard Vehemence.


The new (?) interview with Varg is pretty interesting. I think it's funny how he changed his mind about guitars being used for ****** music or whatever he thought of them.
I say go! Even if they aren't your precise tastes, you should go. Even if the music wasn't all that good, you can still have a good time in the pits and hanging out. And many times seeing a band live can change your opinion about them completely. If I had shows that played near me, I would go to as many as possible, whether I particularly like dthe band or not.

[br3ad_man]

At least Christian bands are being honest. Do you really think death and black metal bands believe the tripe they sing about? Most of them are nice middle class kids.

Admittedly I haven't listened to christian music for a while, but many of the 'mainstream' christian bands (Relient K, Superchick, Audio Adrenaline etc) have lyrics that are not honest at all.

Though of course you will be talking about metal and I have no experience with christian metal, so I should just shut up.

[Riva]

Wow. I just read Varg's reasons for killing Euronymous on www.burzum.org. Although I took it with a grain of salt, I can honestly say it was a extremely interesting, and at times bizarre, read.

[Cardboard Headgear]

If someone takes a pen from you, then I take the pen from them am I taking the pen from you, or the other person? This isn't the 7 degrees of seperation in metal game.
Gimme back my pen you right bastard!

The only member who used to be in a metalcore band is the vocalist. I doubt he has much influence. Besides, I hear no metalcore qualities in Vehemence.

Are you talking about Nathan or the new guy? Cause the new guy hasn't had anything to do with any of their albums that have been released, though he was from a hardcore band by all accounts.

[Lord Abortion]

You're generalising, horrendously. The fact that some rappers (mostly in the mainstream, in this case) talk about such things says nothing about what all rappers rap about. That's as bad as the people who makes threads saying "why do people listen to heavy metal, it's all just about satan and killing".

Yes they do. Tipper Gore and the PMRC concentrated just as much, if not more, on the effects of rap music as heavy metal in the late 80s and early 90s.
I seem to have sparked a debate here...

I'm not excluding metal from blame in stuff, merely pointing out the fact that because rap is generally mainstream the lyrical content is seen as acceptable


and yes the PMRC did concentrate on rap aswell- but nothing to the scale of persecution shown in the paradise lost films - and the arrest (and execution of one)of three teen metal fans for a ritualistic murder which they clearly did not commit of a small boy in arkansas (the "evidence" was that one of the boys had checked out a load of occultism books from the local library)


plus Al Gore focussed on cannibal corpse in his election speech, not snoop dog

[Jondur]

Admittedly I haven't listened to christian music for a while, but many of the 'mainstream' christian bands (Relient K, Superchick, Audio Adrenaline etc) have lyrics that are not honest at all.

Though of course you will be talking about metal and I have no experience with christian metal, so I should just shut up.

When have you ever heard me not talk about metal? The band I was referring to was Trouble. Check em out.

[br3ad_man]

Not once have I heard you talk about music other than metal. I have heard many great things about Trouble, I'll check 'em.

By the way, I sent you an email a while ago about your band's cd, did you get it?

[ArcLite]

When have you ever heard me not talk about metal? The band I was referring to was Trouble. Check em out.

Jondur, if you're still lurking could you recommend me some Candlemass? I've been meaning to check them out for quite some time, so a good starting album to point me in the right direction would be great. I ask you specifically because if I remember right they're your favorite (or one of your favorite) band.

[br3ad_man]

"Nightfall" seems to be the best, though some people don't like the Iron Maiden style vocals and prefer "Epicus Doomicus Metallicus". Wait for Jondur though.

[ArcLite]

Thank you, sir. I shall check those out, as well as anything Jondur says, if he reappears.

[Lord Abortion]

talking of candlemass, I heard black dwarf off the new album, I'm liking it extremely

[Jondur]

To Br3ad man: Well it may surprise you to know that I am a classicly trained musician as well, from a family of classical musicians and often play in string quartets. While 95% of my time is spent listening to metal I still go to classical concerts and also watch quite a few jazz bands.

Trouble are gods.

I did get your email and thought I'd replied? Maybe I didn't sorry - I've just moved house and all. I'll have a check. Sorry.

[Jondur]

"Nightfall" seems to be the best, though some people don't like the Iron Maiden style vocals and prefer "Epicus Doomicus Metallicus".

Nail. Head. Hit.

I wouldn't recommend any others as a starting point. Ancient Dreams, Tales of Creation are also great but just not as good.

Actually the new one might be good to start with - it's a cracker!

[ArcLite]

Much obliged chief. I'll let you know what I think.

[NJMetalMeister]

Actually the new one might be good to start with - it's a cracker!

that good eh? might have to go pick that up this week sometime (assuming its out and its not just leaked versions everyone is listening to), bah so many cds to buy, so little cash.

[Lord Abortion]

that good eh? might have to go pick that up this week sometime (assuming its out and its not just leaked versions everyone is listening to), bah so many cds to buy, so little cash.
I got black dwarf free on a Cd with metal hammer

[HappyMarshmellow]

Man, I said metalcore and everyone **** a brick.

Respect my opinion, fools! I said it sounds like metalcore to me, and backed up my statement with the fact that one of the members is from a metalcore band.

I listen to the vibrations and they do not agree with me. Some people don't like Cryptopsy, I don't go off on a tangent about it.

[br3ad_man]

To Br3ad man: Well it may surprise you to know that I am a classicly trained musician as well, from a family of classical musicians and often play in string quartets. While 95% of my time is spent listening to metal I still go to classical concerts and also watch quite a few jazz bands.

Trouble are gods.

I did get your email and thought I'd replied? Maybe I didn't sorry - I've just moved house and all. I'll have a check. Sorry.

Wow, I didn't know that. What string instrument do you play? Jazz is also good, I'm hoping to be able to play it soon, I'm learning it with my guitar teacher anyway. :thumb:

I'm very sure that I didn't get an email back from you. It's no problem, whenever you have the time.

[LeperAffinity]

Man, I said metalcore and everyone **** a brick.

Respect my opinion, fools! I said it sounds like metalcore to me, and backed up my statement with the fact that one of the members is from a metalcore band.

I listen to the vibrations and they do not agree with me. Some people don't like Cryptopsy, I don't go off on a tangent about it.
The thing is the vocalist(The one from the metalcore band) joined them very recently and has had no input at all on the released albums.

[Jondur]

Wow, I didn't know that. What string instrument do you play? Jazz is also good, I'm hoping to be able to play it soon, I'm learning it with my guitar teacher anyway. :thumb:

I'm very sure that I didn't get an email back from you. It's no problem, whenever you have the time.

Violin.

All emails are answered as of now! Sorry about that.

[HappyMarshmellow]

The thing is the vocalist(The one from the metalcore band) joined them very recently and has had no input at all on the released albums.

It doesn't matter, because I listened to them way before I researched them. I thought they sounded metalcore way before I even knew anything about them.

Therefore, my thoughts are without bias.

[Dancin' Man]

So the consensus is, Vehemence are good but have a bit of metalcore in their sound?

I just thought I would mention, Behemoth are freakin' awesome. Listening to Demigod is the best thing ever. Well, almost.

[ICB]

I saw Behemoth play on Monday at the House of Blues (House of Blues, WTF?!), I have to say they were awesome.

[RetiredAt21]

Wow, the House of Blues? That's kinda strange.

[Moses]

Behemoth are freakin' awesome. Listening to Demigod is the best thing ever. Well, almost.
I've heard the self title song and I must agree it was definately freakin' awesome.

[HappyMarshmellow]

So the consensus is, Vehemence are good but have a bit of metalcore in their sound?

I just thought I would mention, Behemoth are freakin' awesome. Listening to Demigod is the best thing ever. Well, almost.

Too much metalcore for me.

Wow, the House of Blues? That's kinda strange.

Not at all. Even Deicide has played the House of Blues, they released a live album called "Satan Lives".

[ICB]

Wow, the House of Blues? That's kinda strange.

Yeah, and it was kind of a departure from my last two shows; Skynyrd Last Thursday and Hypocrisy, MNEMIC, Dark Tranquility, and Soilwork last month.

[Squirrel]

Is it true that At the Gates have reformed to tour ?!

[TheUnavoidable]

Don't think so. There has been talk about it and the members says it's defintly a possiblity, but nothing is confirmed yet as far as I know.

[Lord Abortion]

anyone get plague angel by marduk?

[ninjamonkey]

plus Al Gore focussed on cannibal corpse in his election speech, not snoop dog
What?
So the consensus is, Vehemence are good but have a bit of metalcore in their sound?

I just thought I would mention, Behemoth are freakin' awesome. Listening to Demigod is the best thing ever. Well, almost.
No, that's not the consensus. Vehemence have nothing metalcore about them whatsoever. HappyMarshmellow is just high on drugs. There is not need to "respect his opinion," b/c this is not a matter of opinion.

[Lord Abortion]

when he talked about bands corrupting the youth of America,
he referenced cannibal corpse- "masturbating onto a woman's severed head", I think he mentioned

[ninjamonkey]

I never heard of that event.

[LeperAffinity]

when he talked about bands corrupting the youth of America,
he referenced cannibal corpse- "masturbating onto a woman's severed head", I think he mentioned
I figure something like that would have gotten quite a mention in the metal community.

[HappyMarshmellow]

What?

No, that's not the consensus. Vehemence have nothing metalcore about them whatsoever. HappyMarshmellow is just high on drugs. There is not need to "respect his opinion," b/c this is not a matter of opinion.

That's it man. I'm going to give Vehemence a second listen.

[Corporal Compendia]

Vehemence have nothing metalcore about them whatsoever.

Except for the vocalist they have now, who is totally pushing them in that direction...that's the word on the street anyways.

[HappyMarshmellow]

Vehemence - "We Are All Dying"

Have a listen to this song right now. I'm daring anyone to do it and tell me it's NOT metalcore. Go ahead. Do it.

0:00 - 0:09
Typical metalcore riffs, a bit of melody in there. It's still got room to change, this song could go a million different ways from here. I just listen to it and it SOUNDS metalcore, but it's not metalcore. Not sure yet... until...

00:10 - 00:16
The voice comes in. Very metalcore voice. Ugh.

00:16 - 00:37
The death metal voice comes in. Alright, that redeems it a bit seeing as he's doing it rather well. However, they're doing the METALCORE thing where they stop and "chugchug". That's very xXxHCxXx. Are these guys straightedge?

00:38 - 1:30
Again with the hardcore voice. Nobody can argue with me that this has no metalcore in it by now. Absolutely not.

The voice changes from metalcore to death a few times. Let's see what happens in the rest of the song.

01:32 - 01:55
IS THAT A BREAKDOWN!?!?! :lol:
Not metalcore?

Not metalcore MY ***.

01:56 - 02:12
Some singing and melodies. Not very br00tal.

02:13 - end
There's a break-ish thing and a bit of grind. Then return to melodies, another breakdown part nearing the end, blah blah blah.

I can see hardkore kids slamdancing to this, easily.

Your mother, Ninjamonkey. You just made me listen to metalcore.

[LeperAffinity]

Vehemence - "We Are All Dying"

Have a listen to this song right now. I'm daring anyone to do it and tell me it's NOT metalcore. Go ahead. Do it.

0:00 - 0:09
Typical metalcore riffs, a bit of melody in there. It's still got room to change, this song could go a million different ways from here. I just listen to it and it SOUNDS metalcore, but it's not metalcore. Not sure yet... until...

00:10 - 00:16
The voice comes in. Very metalcore voice. Ugh.

00:16 - 00:37
The death metal voice comes in. Alright, that redeems it a bit seeing as he's doing it rather well. However, they're doing the METALCORE thing where they stop and "chugchug". That's very xXxHCxXx. Are these guys straightedge?

00:38 - 1:30
Again with the hardcore voice. Nobody can argue with me that this has no metalcore in it by now. Absolutely not.

The voice changes from metalcore to death a few times. Let's see what happens in the rest of the song.

01:32 - 01:55
IS THAT A BREAKDOWN!?!?! :lol:
Not metalcore?

Not metalcore MY ***.

01:56 - 02:12
Some singing and melodies. Not very br00tal.

02:13 - end
There's a break-ish thing and a bit of grind. Then return to melodies, another breakdown part nearing the end, blah blah blah.

I can see hardkore kids slamdancing to this, easily.

Your mother, Ninjamonkey. You just made me listen to metalcore.
Despite the fact that you don't want to listen to more Vehemence, I will say this anyway. The track you chose was from the far inferior "Helping the World To See". Get the song "God Was Created" from the album of the same name, then tell me it's metalcore.

[HappyMarshmellow]

Despite the fact that you don't want to listen to more Vehemence, I will say this anyway. The track you chose was from the far inferior "Helping the World To See". Get the song "God Was Created" from the album of the same name, then tell me it's metalcore.

Maybe later. I'm frustrated right now; people think that stating the truth somehow makes them inferior.

[Corporal Compendia]

To help the Marshmellow out here... Older Vehemence is not metalcore. It's not all that great, but definitely not metalcore... However, the newer stuff starts to move towards that sound we just don't want! annnnd I'll bet anything that their next album is all out metalcore, with the loss of Nathan and all.

[ninjamonkey]

Vehemence - "We Are All Dying"

Have a listen to this song right now. I'm daring anyone to do it and tell me it's NOT metalcore. Go ahead. Do it.

0:00 - 0:09
Typical metalcore riffs, a bit of melody in there. It's still got room to change, this song could go a million different ways from here. I just listen to it and it SOUNDS metalcore, but it's not metalcore. Not sure yet... until...

00:10 - 00:16
The voice comes in. Very metalcore voice. Ugh.

00:16 - 00:37
The death metal voice comes in. Alright, that redeems it a bit seeing as he's doing it rather well. However, they're doing the METALCORE thing where they stop and "chugchug". That's very xXxHCxXx. Are these guys straightedge?

00:38 - 1:30
Again with the hardcore voice. Nobody can argue with me that this has no metalcore in it by now. Absolutely not.

The voice changes from metalcore to death a few times. Let's see what happens in the rest of the song.

01:32 - 01:55
IS THAT A BREAKDOWN!?!?! :lol:
Not metalcore?

Not metalcore MY ***.

01:56 - 02:12
Some singing and melodies. Not very br00tal.

02:13 - end
There's a break-ish thing and a bit of grind. Then return to melodies, another breakdown part nearing the end, blah blah blah.

I can see hardkore kids slamdancing to this, easily.

Your mother, Ninjamonkey. You just made me listen to metalcore.

This still doesn't sound like metalcore. That "metalcore" voice you talk about, it doesn't sound very metalcore to me. They have always had those type of vocals. You seem to be associating any melody with metalcore. That just isn't true.

But w/e, this isn't important.

I suggest getting "God Was Created".

[HappyMarshmellow]

This still doesn't sound like metalcore. That "metalcore" voice you talk about, it doesn't sound very metalcore to me. They have always had those type of vocals. You seem to be associating any melody with metalcore. That just isn't true.

But w/e, this isn't important.

I suggest getting "God Was Created".

It got personal when you said I was just high on drugs :angry: :lol:

Open your mind dude, there's definetly metalcore in there.

Anyway, I'm not going to listen to any more Vehemence. You think what you will, and I'll spin what I want to.

[Dancin' Man]

I said there was metalcore in it, but I also said that the album you chose a song off of was their worst work. God Was Created is a good listen.

Anyway, my new guitar should be here tomorrow! Jackson DKMGT with upgraded pickups. I'm excited, you should be too. My first metal guitar (excluding that crappy Schecter that felt like I was playing a guitar made out of bricks with a sound to match). I'll post audio as soon as my adapter for my amp modeler arrives. That won't happen until the 16th at the earliest.

[ninjamonkey]

It got personal when you said I was just high on drugs :angry: :lol:
lol, well it's true, isn't it?

Dancin' man, what kind of schecter di dyou have?

[HappyMarshmellow]

lol, well it's true, isn't it?

Dancin' man, what kind of schecter di dyou have?

Well yeah, now that the fight's over, yeah now it is. You should have asked earlier! When I was still interested! Aahh!

Man, now I'm smoked out of my skull. Kraftwerk is tweakin' my noggin. Out.

Tweaking it out. O h y e a h

[br3ad_man]

Cult of Luna are so good. I've been digging them and Isis a lot.

[Dancin' Man]

lol, well it's true, isn't it?

Dancin' man, what kind of schecter di dyou have?

an Omen-6. It may be a just fine guitar but I hated it.

SOmething about Isis and Cult of Luna

I really like Isis more than Cult of Luna. 'Tender and I have had this talk before because we both prefer the other band. I find Cult of Luna boring for the most part. Make sure to check out Mare if you haven't already.

/this happens to be the genre I am most educated on in the relative scale to other MXicans. Unfortunately not many others listen to the stuff.

NP Atheist - Green

[LegionsofMarduk]

an Omen-6. It may be a just fine guitar but I hated it.

I've never played the Omen-6, but I've got a C-1 Elite and I love it.

[big80smullet]

Is mastodon deth metal? its kinda ****ed. I got given their album "leviathan" by my mate as a present. Its really good but i cant bend my brain around alot of it.

[br3ad_man]

When I can afford it, I'd like my two main guitars to be a telecaster and a C-1 Elite.

I really like Isis more than Cult of Luna. 'Tender and I have had this talk before because we both prefer the other band. I find Cult of Luna boring for the most part. Make sure to check out Mare if you haven't already.


I don't know which I like more. They're both the goods. I have a feeling that Cult of Luna would be more interesting live though.

Which Isis album do you think is the best? I can't decide between Panopticon and Oceanic.

[One Step Beyond]

Is mastodon deth metal? its kinda ****ed. I got given their album "leviathan" by my mate as a present. Its really good but i cant bend my brain around alot of it.
No, they are definately not death metal. I am not sure what they would be considered but I like that albbum quite a bit. They are progressive metal to some extent though.

[Dancin' Man]

Legions - Is the C-1 a big guitar? I just don't like the feeling of really alrge heavy guitars. That's one big reason I don't like Les Pauls. My ideal guitars would be generally custom guitars assembled of many different brand parts. I love PRS bodies but their necks are a little deep for my liking unless I'm playing jazzier stuff. I'm really psyched about this guitar though. I hope it comes today so I don't have to wait until Monday.

Br3ad - I can't decide either! I think in the end I like Oceanic better only because I physically own that one and it has recieved more full listens. My only complaint with Isis is the singer. I wsih he did what he does but could also sing. That would add a whole new level to their music.

Mastodon are basically just very good metal. They don't really fit into subgenres well. They have mildly progressive elements but at the end, I would just call them metal.

NP Melt Banana - SPATHIC!

[Cardboard Headgear]

Cult of Luna are so good. I've been digging them and Isis a lot.
You should listen to my friend's project then.
http://www.soundclick.com/bands/writePage.cfm?myType=music&bandid=324320&bandnamesave=oldriverroad

We're also starting a band up together, but it's nothing like that style. Still, I enjoy what he writes of it.

[purplefeet]

Although I know this is completely irrelavant..I remember when this thread had about 3000-5000 posts. Come back a few months later and whamo!
Nice job guys.

[HappyMarshmellow]

Is mastodon deth metal? its kinda ****ed. I got given their album "leviathan" by my mate as a present. Its really good but i cant bend my brain around alot of it.

Nope, not death metal.

Nice avatar, by the way.

[big80smullet]

thanks i made it i my workshop of prejudice

[ninjamonkey]

How rebellious.

[Rothmans]

an Omen-6. It may be a just fine guitar but I hated it.



I really like Isis more than Cult of Luna. 'Tender and I have had this talk before because we both prefer the other band. I find Cult of Luna boring for the most part. Make sure to check out Mare if you haven't already.

/this happens to be the genre I am most educated on in the relative scale to other MXicans. Unfortunately not many others listen to the stuff.

NP Atheist - Green

Whate genre are Isis and cult of luna?

(whatever genre it is its my 2nd favourite anyway)

I always thought that Isis and Neurosis were some type of psychadelia music and cult of luna having some relations with it.

[ninjamonkey]

Sludge/Doom

NP: Withered Beauty

[LegionsofMarduk]

Legions - Is the C-1 a big guitar? I just don't like the feeling of really alrge heavy guitars. That's one big reason I don't like Les Pauls. My ideal guitars would be generally custom guitars assembled of many different brand parts. I love PRS bodies but their necks are a little deep for my liking unless I'm playing jazzier stuff. I'm really psyched about this guitar though. I hope it comes today so I don't have to wait until Monday.

No, it's not too bad. The body size would be a little smaller than a standard strat I think. It's a solid mohogany body so it's not a featherweight by any means, but it's not near as heavy as a Les Paul. Here's a pic of me (and Heidi) about a month after I got it. The guitar strapped around Heidi is a Kramer Beretta II custom which is a bit larger than the Schecter.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v365/LegionsofMarduk/Heidi-daddy-jam.jpg

[Lord Abortion]

mastadon?

DM?

:lol:

[Freezing Moon]

Legions - Is the C-1 a big guitar? I just don't like the feeling of really alrge heavy guitars. That's one big reason I don't like Les Pauls. My ideal guitars would be generally custom guitars assembled of many different brand parts. I love PRS bodies but their necks are a little deep for my liking unless I'm playing jazzier stuff. I'm really psyched about this guitar though. I hope it comes today so I don't have to wait until Monday.


I have a C-1 +. I wouldn't really call it big at all. I like it a lot.

I can see why you didn't like the omen - 6, I don't like it all that much either.

[br3ad_man]

Br3ad - I can't decide either! I think in the end I like Oceanic better only because I physically own that one and it has recieved more full listens. My only complaint with Isis is the singer. I wsih he did what he does but could also sing. That would add a whole new level to their music.


Yeah, I agree. He sings a bit on Panopticon though, but it's not the nicest singing, it's still really dry and raspy.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v365/LegionsofMarduk/Heidi-daddy-jam.jpg

Your daughter is so metal.

mastadon?

Mastodon actually ;)

EDIT: What sort of amp and EQ settings would I use if I was trying to get a Darkthrone style guitar sound?

[br3ad_man]

I've finished another song

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/2/frostmournemusic.htm

Sorry for the double post.

[Dancin' Man]

I can dig on this. That intro is a little off, but cool. The guitars were a bit too loud in the mix I thought and a little too warm soudning. The guitar tone after that drum loop solo was better. The drums made me laugh, especially where the clipping of the part is.

[Per Ardua Ad Astra]

On guitars, Ibanez RG's are where the money is.

[Dancin' Man]

For me it was between that and the Jackson DKMGT. In the end, I decided I have something personal against Ibanez guitars and I found a great deal on this Jackson so my mind was made up.

P.S. My guitar got here today. So nice.

[br3ad_man]

I can dig on this. That intro is a little off, but cool. The guitars were a bit too loud in the mix I thought and a little too warm soudning. The guitar tone after that drum loop solo was better. The drums made me laugh, especially where the clipping of the part is.

hehe, Fruity Loops is annoying, it's really hard to loop beats. Thanks for the feedback dude.

[Dancin' Man]

I could do your drum tracks for you. I'm quite good with FL programming. Do you use the preconstructed loops?

[Dude3]

Hey guys, what Death album should I get?
I already have Human, and I've heard that you really can't go wrong with their Cd's.
There are so many of their albums that I'm interested in.
What do you reccomend I get?
Thanks

[Dancin' Man]

I really like Scream Bloody Gore but The Sound Of Perseverence is great as well.

[Nosferatu]

Individual Thought Patterns

[LeperAffinity]

Symbolic.

[Dancin' Man]

So, now that every other Death full length has been mentioned, which one should he actually get?

[br3ad_man]

The Sound Of Perservance

I could do your drum tracks for you. I'm quite good with FL programming. Do you use the preconstructed loops?

I'm not sure what you mean. I use drum wav files from this site Ramsey gave me awhile ago if that's what you mean.

I would love you to do them for me, that would be the fuzz.

[Dancin' Man]

I shall then. Send me your song without drums on it and if you have it, the BPM ( I can figure it out if not)

[br3ad_man]

Thanks so much. I have a few things to fix up on it, so I'll send it in a couple of hours. Thanks for your help.

Is The Painter's Palette still your favourite album?

[Dancin' Man]

Hmmmm.... not favorite but I still love it. I've decided to stop naming favorite albums because it changes frequently. After I decided that Lateralus was not my favorite, I cycle through them pretty quickly. Enslaved - Isa, Ephel Duath - The Painter's Pallette, Emperor - Prometheus, Peccatum - Lost in Reverie, Lykathea Aflame - Elvenfris and Pelican - Australasia have all been there in the last few months. I still love all of them.

[Dancin' Man]

http://s41.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2L5AK7JU0GN5T1GIMZZBBHMFF2

A sample of my drums. This is a quick one I did just to give you an idea what mine would be like (br3ad). I won't add any reverb or anything to them because you canbe the judge of how realizstic they should sound.

[slaughteredfirst]

Holy sweet jesus I picked up Immolation's Harnessing the Ruin cd today.

It came with a sample cd of a bunch of other bands.

Both cds rule so very much.

If you like brutal death pick Harnessing the ruin.

[Nosferatu]

first off, its Harnessing Ruin...and although i've only listened to it a few times, i don't find it as good as their previous albums Unholy Cult and Close to a World Below

[Freezing Moon]

What are some good DC ++ hubs? I think I've finally got it working for me. :)

[br3ad_man]

Dancin' Man, I'm just uploading my track now. That sample you uploaded before was awesome!

http://s12.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1YZMYFY5PDJXF2AK7JQYK5EF5P

[Dancin' Man]

I'll try to get that done by tonight, I have a pretty full schedule for today. Did you re-record your parts? Your timing seemed a little strange in the original. If you have it, time sig (I think it's 4/4 but like I said, some of your timing was strange) BPM and a rough idea of what you'd like where (also specify how standard a part you want or else you'll have Hellhammers fairy godfather behind the set)

[Deathcrush]

What tempo are you using, Dancin' Man?

[Hammerheart]

What are some good DC ++ hubs? I think I've finally got it working for me. :)

metalmayhem.no-ip.org

[Squirrel]

Can anyone tell me where I can get the new Cryptopsy Live DVD in the UK?

I tried there site but it seems buggered for me.

Hmm.

[ninjamonkey]

grindcore.no-ip.org:411

NP: Mystic Forest - Une Ronde Dans Les Ruines

[Stoic]

Ephel Duath - The Painter's Pallette

I'm surprised you like it as everyone seems to hate it! I'd like to know more about this group.

Individual Thought Patterns

I've been listening to it lately after a while and I've come to the conclusion that it's indeed the best Death album, even better than Human, especially in terms of production and bass sound (I can hardly hear it on Human). It's technical death at its purest, most complete and most genious form!

[Dude3]

Sorry, but can somebody up-load the "Intro/The Philosopher", from Death: Live in L.A.?
I asked in the up-load thread, but no one responded.
Thanks

[Stoic]

Have you guys heard the news about Mustaine not wanting to be supported by "satanic" groups? Just saw a thread on Metal-Rules.com. Besides Dissection the bastard has already done this to Rotting Christ

http://www.roadrun.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=36679

www.tombstone.gr

[killing thyself smiley]

EDIT

Oh yes, there's already a thread :p

[Stoic]

it's a shame no one came here while I was on...I'll be off for another week...:upset:

NP Communic - History Reversed

[blackout]

I've been listening to it lately after a while and I've come to the conclusion that it's indeed the best Death album, even better than Human, especially in terms of production and bass sound (I can hardly hear it on Human). It's technical death at its purest, most complete and most genious form!
I like IDP a lot, but it's far from my favourite Death album. I hate the bass sound on this album, it's higher in the mix yes, but it just doesn't sound nice to my ears, especially in the philospher around 1:45.

I much prefer symbolic, human and the sound of perseverance to IDP. Maybe it's just going to take me a while to get into it, seeing as i've only had it about 3-4 weeks. The same thing happened with symbolic, I hardly used to listen to it, but now it's pretty much my favourite album ever.
I could do your drum tracks for you. I'm quite good with FL programming. Do you use the preconstructed loops?
Hey, dont suppose you could sort me out with the drums to Zero Tolerance by Death could you? It would be great if you could, I've been trying to do it somehow with guitar pro but i cant get it to work. My address is mxblackout@gmail.com

[funk_metalguitarist]

I'm surprised you like it as everyone seems to hate it! I'd like to know more about this group.

I love Ephel Duath. Their older material's closer to black metal, but The Painter's Palette is mixture of metalcore and jazz fusion. They are very original actually.

[slaughteredfirst]

first off, its Harnessing Ruin...and although i've only listened to it a few times, i don't find it as good as their previous albums Unholy Cult and Close to a World Below


Eh, didnt notice the "the" sorry.

I really like the cd though.

[Nosferatu]

Eh, didnt notice the "the" sorry.

I really like the cd though.

lol its no big deal...really doesn't matter

[slaughteredfirst]

lol its no big deal...really doesn't matter


I will check out some of their older stuff if you say its better :thumb:

[Dancin' Man]

What tempo are you using, Dancin' Man?

180 seems to be what the previous drum track was at and close to what Br3ad does but br3ad wasn't consistent and I think he occasionally left like half beats out which makes it really hard.

[LeperAffinity]

Hey, dont suppose you could sort me out with the drums to Zero Tolerance by Death could you? It would be great if you could, I've been trying to do it somehow with guitar pro but i cant get it to work. My address is mxblackout@gmail.com
There's a tab of that song on http://www.mysongbook.com that has the complete drums tracks.

[HappyMarshmellow]

Have you guys heard the news about Mustaine not wanting to be supported by "satanic" groups? Just saw a thread on Metal-Rules.com. Besides Dissection the bastard has already done this to Rotting Christ

http://www.roadrun.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=36679

www.tombstone.gr

[killing thyself smiley]

EDIT

Oh yes, there's already a thread :p

Man, what a cumguzzler.

[br3ad_man]

180 seems to be what the previous drum track was at and close to what Br3ad does but br3ad wasn't consistent and I think he occasionally left like half beats out which makes it really hard.

Sorry man :(

I really need to get another metronome, my timing has been going downhill ever since I stopped practicing with a metronome.

[blackout]

There's a tab of that song on http://www.mysongbook.com that has the complete drums tracks.
I know, i have that but I can't convert it from midi to audio to be able to use it in audacity.

[Dancin' Man]

Sorry man :(

I really need to get another metronome, my timing has been going downhill ever since I stopped practicing with a metronome.

Give me the song structure typed right here and I could do all the drum tracks then you could record your parts over them, using them as a metronome.

[RCA]

When Google doesn't cut it...

Do any of you know where I can get either Deathspell Omega's "Si Monumentum Requires, Circumspice" or Dawn Of Azazel's "The Law Of The Strong" online, with American currency?

[Dancin' Man]

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0009H00FY/qid%3D1116178872/sr%3D11-1/ref%3Dsr%5F11%5F1/002-5634529-9268804

There is Dawn of Azazel "The Law of the Strong"

[ninjamonkey]

http://shopping.theendrecords.com/s.nl?sc=10&search=deathspell

http://shopping.theendrecords.com/s.nl?sc=10&search=azazel

NP: In Flames - Artifacts of the Black Rain

[Dancin' Man]

I love my new guitar. I just thought I'd reitterate that. There is just something about the neck that makes me love it. It's funny that I have an extra knob though. The guy who owned it before me took out the 20 dB boost because he thought it was annoying. I have so many pedals, I don't really need a boost within the guitar. I have it (he sent that and the original pickups plus strap locks. I really got a bargain) but don't really want to install it. I like playing with the extra knob. It makes it look like I can hear something the audience can't and I'm fine tuning.

[RCA]

Thanks, ninjamonkey and FF.

[carnal_forgeries]

I love my new guitar. I just thought I'd reitterate that. There is just something about the neck that makes me love it. It's funny that I have an extra knob though. The guy who owned it before me took out the 20 dB boost because he thought it was annoying. I have so many pedals, I don't really need a boost within the guitar. I have it (he sent that and the original pickups plus strap locks. I really got a bargain) but don't really want to install it. I like playing with the extra knob. It makes it look like I can hear something the audience can't and I'm fine tuning.
Sounds great, what brand is it?

[TTTSNB]

I just got an untitled vlad tepes demo tape /bootleg(It has several other bands on it) that I ordered today. Sounds quite good, also very rare.

[carnal_forgeries]

When Google doesn't cut it...

Do any of you know where I can get either Deathspell Omega's "Si Monumentum Requires, Circumspice" or Dawn Of Azazel's "The Law Of The Strong" online, with American currency?
Well, where do you live, because I know this great store, Its called Generation records in the village. I'm sure they have it, if you live in New York

[ninjamonkey]

I love my new guitar. I just thought I'd reitterate that. There is just something about the neck that makes me love it. It's funny that I have an extra knob though. The guy who owned it before me took out the 20 dB boost because he thought it was annoying. I have so many pedals, I don't really need a boost within the guitar. I have it (he sent that and the original pickups plus strap locks. I really got a bargain) but don't really want to install it. I like playing with the extra knob. It makes it look like I can hear something the audience can't and I'm fine tuning.
So it's just a knob that does nothing?
Thanks, ninjamonkey and FF.
FF?

[Dancin' Man]

I'm FF. I used to be Fast Fingers. The knob was for the volume boost, but it was removed so yes, it's a useless knob.

NP Bolt Thrower - Destructive Infinity

[TTTSNB]

I'm FF. I used to be Fast Fingers. The knob was for the volume boost, but it was removed so yes, it's a useless knob.

NP Bolt Thrower - Destructive Infinity
Link?

[Dancin' Man]

Of? the guitar?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v293/CaptainSwank/Jacksonandpedals.jpg

and my artsy amp picture (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v293/CaptainSwank/a74006ae.jpg)

[metalcritter666]

Can anyone recommend any good death/black metal similar to Morbid Angel?

[Freezing Moon]

Can anyone recommend any good death/black metal similar to Morbid Angel?

Just browse random pages of the thread for recommendations.

Suffocation
Deicide
Immolation

are all pretty similar to Morbid Angel.

(By the way, MA is not black metal. Just incase you didn't know)

[metalcritter666]

(By the way, MA is not black metal. Just incase you didn't know)

Yeah I know, I'm a mild death/black metal fan and I'm not too familiar with the genres yet, just looking for recommendations is all.

[Lord Abortion]

Hey guys, what Death album should I get?
I already have Human, and I've heard that you really can't go wrong with their Cd's.
There are so many of their albums that I'm interested in.
What do you reccomend I get?
Thanks
scream bloody gore and individual thought patterns are my favourites... the former I have just purchased off amazon (I have them on mp3) and should arrive shortly along with tomb of the mutilated

my band are really putting our version of hammer samashed face together well

should be class :lol:


oh and do I need to point out that dancin' man "likes to play with his extra knob"?

[ArcLite]

I have ITP, Symblic, and SOP, their last three, but have never even heard their ealier more tr00 stuff. I need to check it out.

[NJMetalMeister]

Of? the guitar?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v293/CaptainSwank/Jacksonandpedals.jpg

and my artsy amp picture (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v293/CaptainSwank/a74006ae.jpg)

That is the same guitar i own and in the same color, and it does indeed rule. My boost knob does still work however :thumb:

[LegionsofMarduk]

Can anyone recommend any good death/black metal similar to Morbid Angel?

Mithras

[Jondur]

Actually Mithras sound nothing like Morbid Angel! Leon's solos are completely different. Mithras are not influenced at all by Morbid Angel. If you can't tell the difference then you're stupid.

Edit: Sorry I thought I was posting under my other username, Toozey

[Dancin' Man]

Actually Mithras sound nothing like Morbid Angel! Leon's solos are completely different. Mithras are not influenced at all by Morbid Angel. If you can't tell the difference then you're stupid.

Edit: Sorry I thought I was posting under my other username, Toozey

HAHAHA

Best. MXdeathheadsthread. Joke. Ever.

[Lord Abortion]

Actually Mithras sound nothing like Morbid Angel! Leon's solos are completely different. Mithras are not influenced at all by Morbid Angel. If you can't tell the difference then you're stupid.

Edit: Sorry I thought I was posting under my other username, Toozey

:lol: nicely done... I almost believed you

[slaughteredfirst]

Oh shi...I like a 6 feet under song.

Normally I hate this band to but their new song "Shadow of the reaper," is a very good song.

http://www.metalblade.de/video.php?video=sfu_shadowofthereaper.wmv


music video is you want to hear it.

[Dancin' Man]

It was alright. Got kinda boring. I liked some of the riffs but in general they were not very original.

Esqarial is an awesome band.

CDs to buy
Esqarial - Inheritance
Anata - Under a Stone with No Inscription
Nile - Annihilation of the Wicked
Behemoth - Demigod
Lykathea Aflame - Elvenfris

That wil expand my physical death metal collection from 1 to 6. Necrophagist's Onset of Putrefication is good, but getting old.

[blackout]

Oh shi...I like a 6 feet under song.

Normally I hate this band to but their new song "Shadow of the reaper," is a very good song.

http://www.metalblade.de/video.php?video=sfu_shadowofthereaper.wmv


music video is you want to hear it.
Yeah, I got a free cd with this track on a few months ago and i just though it was someone else. It's surprisingly good.

[RetiredAt21]

I hate Six Feet Under. But just out of curiousity I will give that new song a listen.

[Jondur]

CDs to buy
Esqarial - Inheritance
Anata - Under a Stone with No Inscription
Nile - Annihilation of the Wicked
Behemoth - Demigod
Lykathea Aflame - Elvenfris

That wil expand my physical death metal collection from 1 to 6. Necrophagist's Onset of Putrefication is good, but getting old.

I think which one you should choose is kind of obvious

[blackout]

I hate Six Feet Under. But just out of curiousity I will give that new song a listen.
I did too, until I heard this song. It's not amazing, but it is compared to their normal rubbish.

[Fallen Zero]

I did too, until I heard this song. It's not amazing, but it is compared to their normal rubbish.

yeah, the new song isn't overwhelming, but the riffs (or actually that one riff that they play over and over) is much better than any of their older songs.

[Firecracker]

I like Children Of Bodom.

[One Step Beyond]

I like Children Of Bodom.
Get out.

[Dancin' Man]

I think which one you should choose is kind of obvious

I meant I plan on getting all of them.

[Nosferatu]

I have ITP, Symblic, and SOP, their last three, but have never even heard their ealier more tr00 stuff. I need to check it out.

than you should definately check out Human

[Cardboard Headgear]

Get out.
Better do as he says, he appears to be quite a badass.

[Rothmans]

I like Children Of Bodom.

Do you want a medal?

[slaughteredfirst]

yeah, the new song isn't overwhelming, but the riffs (or actually that one riff that they play over and over) is much better than any of their older songs.


I acutally liked all of the song.

Barns vocals are decent and that one riff is insainly awesome.

[ninjamonkey]

I don't see what's so bad about Six Feet Under.

That song wasn't too bad.

[Toozey]

Actually Mithras sound nothing like Morbid Angel! Leon's solos are completely different. Mithras are not influenced at all by Morbid Angel. If you can't tell the difference then you're stupid.

Edit: Sorry I thought I was posting under my other username, Toozey

People comparisons are lazy, I think it would be a good idea if you actually listened and thought about what you are hearing than making the first lazy comparison in your head.

It's particulary stupid since I never said they were not influence by Morbid Angel in anyway.

I bet you like SUNN0)))

[Griffin_Page]

It's particulary stupid since I never said they were not influence by Morbid Angel in anyway.



But you would've. Come on, it was a joke, hahah.. if you can't laugh at yourself you don't deserve to live.

[Dancin' Man]

I bet you like SUNN0)))

Burrrrrrrnnnnnnn

Like I said before, the 6 Feet Under was alright, but got boring and was fairly unoriginal. Not bad though.

[Toozey]

But you would've. Come on, it was a joke, hahah.. if you can't laugh at yourself you don't deserve to live.

Who says I'm being serious? I think my SUNN0))) comment shows I'm not. :p

[Fallen Zero]

I don't see what's so bad about Six Feet Under.

That song wasn't too bad.

They've gotten a bad reputation for their other material.

[Bartender]

Get out.

Do you want a medal?

Why bother? Welcome him, or tell him some other bands to listen to, or tell him why they don't really belong in here, or anything, really. Don't just tell him to get out.

[ninjamonkey]

They do belong in here, though.
They've gotten a bad reputation for their other material.
I know this. I was just saying I don't see why.

[Dancin' Man]

Mediocrity is my guess.

NP Arcturus - Radical Cut

Oh. Emm. Gee. I wish I could play keys like that.

I'd feel like such a douche playing guitar in Arcturus.

[ninjamonkey]

People like mediocre bands all the time.

[Dancin' Man]

I know. But I don't. I think in this thread mediocrity is less attractive since many more talented or simply better bands are also a bit more obscure.

[Griffin_Page]

Who says I'm being serious? I think my SUNN0))) comment shows I'm not. :p


My bad. I suck at discerning that over the internet. I shall now keep my mouth shut :p

Nevermind, i want to ask who all in here digs Vader? I saw them in Anaheim with Kreator last month... and im still floored. Great ****ing band!

[Dancin' Man]

I love them except for (as I've said numerous times in this thread) the singer. He sounds like he's taking a dump and his voice is all strained. I want a real growl, not a constipated moan.

[HappyMarshmellow]

My bad. I suck at discerning that over the internet. I shall now keep my mouth shut :p

Nevermind, i want to ask who all in here digs Vader? I saw them in Anaheim with Kreator last month... and im still floored. Great ****ing band!

I like Vader. The voice doesn't bother me, it's something different. I like it how he sounds hoarse.

How are they live?

[BoboTheRagingHobo]

NP Arcturus - Radical Cut

Oh. Emm. Gee. I wish I could play keys like that.

I'd feel like such a douche playing guitar in Arcturus.

Can't forget the guitar solo in Ad Astra though.

Go vote for him then when the voting starts on the piano/keyboardist thing starts in that forum.

http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=340753

I nominated Steinar Sverd Johnsen (Arcturus) and Andy Winter (Winds, Age Of Silence)...better vote for them when it starts or I will have to take your ability to walk.

[Dancin' Man]

They are amazing. Also in Kinetic the guitarist gets a little glory. I'll nominate Steven Wilson too, even though he's not amazing or anything. Just nice to listen to. Maybe Arjen Lucanssen as well.

[manuscriptreplica]

the solos at the end of Radical Cut can't be beat. Sorry.

[Dancin' Man]

http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=7918231#post7918231

Done. Plus some others.

the solos at the end of Radical Cut can't be beat. Sorry.

Which is why I would be embarassed to play guitar next to that. Because there are so few guitarists who can be play a comparable solo and he can't be blamed for not being one of them.

[Cardboard Headgear]

So I finally put my basslines down on my band's demo, so now I'll share it with you peoples: http://www.myspace.com/decreationband Can you tell I enjoy Steve Digiorgio's style? :lol:

[br3ad_man]

Can anyone hook me up with "Spheres" by Pestilence?

Dancin' Man: Sorry, I'm not very good at this. How do you want me to post the structure?

[ArcLite]

Can anyone hook me up with "Spheres" by Pestilence?

Dancin' Man: Sorry, I'm not very good at this. How do you want me to post the structure?

I would if I could, but I'm at work right now and don't have access to my music for another 3 hours. Good band though. If you're new to them, which I'm perhaps wrongfully assuming ( :amaze: ), you'll like them if you like Cynic, Death, Atheist, or any other prog death.

[manuscriptreplica]

Bread - the whole album, or just the song

[manuscriptreplica]

So I finally put my basslines down on my band's demo, so now I'll share it with you peoples: http://www.myspace.com/decreationband Can you tell I enjoy Steve Digiorgio's style? :lol:

wow, that's great! I'm guessing you're the bassist? There are some great lines, especially in the first song

[br3ad_man]

The album.

[Lord Abortion]

all I know about sunno)))

is that the mighty attila cishar joined them onstage recently

that's it.

[manuscriptreplica]

The album.

cbf sending you the entire album tonight. I'll leave my computer on tonight and do it then, i'll post a YSI link i