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The Depressed

03-01-2005, 06:48 AM

Of course. I'm going on a massive kick with these jazzy influenced extreme bands - Martyr, Meshuggah, Alarum, Cynic to name the main ones. Anyone suggesting anymore (apart from Atheist and Pestilence, already know those two) will be repped according to my enjoyment.

Ahem....

Currently downloading that The River track Jon. I'll edit this post when I've listened to it.

NP: Bolt Thrower - ...For Victory

Not jazzy, but rocking regardless.

EDIT - Hmm, not bad, actually. I don't like it as much as the Unsilence I've heard but it's got that droning vibe which keeps you listening. And did I hear a slowed down Immortal riff in there or something? ;)

Lord Abortion

03-01-2005, 07:02 AM

LordDargon

03-01-2005, 07:06 AM

Lyrically, you mean? M A have Lovecraft inspired lyrics. Lovecraft is the greatest writer ever to set foot upon our mortal sphere. Deicide just have satanic/anti-christian lyrics. Early MA had pretty typical lyrics though too.

Lykathea Aflame, Wormed, Demilich have out-there lyrics.

HappyMarshmellow

03-01-2005, 07:46 AM

You guys ever heard of Nuclear Death? I just got four of their albums (Bride Of Insect, Carrion for Worm, For All Creatures Great And Eaten, and I think For Our Dead).

Those dudes must totally trip on acid night and day. The lyrics are incredibly distrubing, as is the artwork. That's a lot coming from me.

The music is grind, and on the later albums more death metal. It's pretty creative stuff, especially with the chick singer. She's a very angry person, I can tell.

There's a ton of speed metal/thrash influences, especially when she falsettos like early Slayer. There's very little "chuggachugga" hardcore riffs too, which is really refreshing.

Stevie

03-01-2005, 12:59 PM

Is it just me or are deicide and morbid angel's lyrical subjects sound the same as each other?
alot of death lyrics seem to be gore death stuff- cannibal corpse, mortician, autopsy etc. or religious stuff like MA and deicide...

being relatively new to death metal please tell me...
what bands are a huge departure from this?

Later Death works are philosophical, though I'd avoid anything "Individual Thought Patterns" onwards (Christian). The same goes for later Carcass works (Heartwork onwards) that are more social/non gore lyrics. Napalm Death (Though technically not death metal) have their political lyrics. Amon Amarth also has their Viking lyrics. And finally, The Berzerker has their misanthropic lyrics...

That's all I can think of, many bands however opt for lyrics I hate, like Hypocrisy's

Deathcrush

03-01-2005, 01:02 PM

I hate most political lyrics. Especially Napalm Death's, but their music makes up for it. At times.

Stevie

03-01-2005, 01:07 PM

Yes, and bands like RATM will whine on about corporations whilst being signed to Sony records.

Dancin' Man

03-01-2005, 01:08 PM

Lykathea Aflame, Wormed, Demilich have out-there lyrics.

Haven't seen Demilich's lyrics but both Wormed and Lykathea Aflame have some impressive stuff going on.

NP Hollenthon - Premonition-Lex Talionis

Discuss the greatness of Hellenthon.

Bartender

03-01-2005, 01:12 PM

I really need to get my hands on With Vilest of Worms to Dwell. Are Hollenthon working on a new album, or did I just dream that?

Yes, and bands like RATM will whine on about corporations whilst being signed to Sony records.

The theory there is that it's better to get your message out in the short-term by being signed to a label with better distribution. Yeah, if they stayed on some tiny little indie label, they'd be "staying true to their word" or whatever, but no one would hear their word.

Corporal Compendia

03-01-2005, 01:21 PM

I heard from someone that Martin was working on a new Hollenthon album, but I haven't been able to find anything to back it up... and Martin has probably been pretty busy with Pungent Stench, just releasing an album and all. I have a friend in contact with Martin, so I'll have to get him to ask.

Dancin' Man

03-01-2005, 01:25 PM

I've only got this one album on my computer, mostly cause Bartender reviewed it and said it was good. I like it but as I understand it, the others are very different.

The theory there is that it's better to get your message out in the short-term by being signed to a label with better distribution. Yeah, if they stayed on some tiny little indie label, they'd be "staying true to their word" or whatever, but no one would hear their word.

Unlike the majority of MX, this would not bother me.

Corporal Compendia

03-01-2005, 01:34 PM

^^^ If you're talking about Hollenthon, they only have 2 albums, and they really aren't that different from each other. They're both freakin' great, but I give the edge to With Vilest Of Worms To Dwell... It should be on that old Masterpiece Theater show.

Bartender

03-01-2005, 01:40 PM

Most of what I've read about With Vilest of Worms to Dwell (and the one song, To Kingdom Come) has indicated that it's more symphonic and bombastic than Domus Mundi.

I really need to get it.

Stevie

03-01-2005, 01:55 PM

The theory there is that it's better to get your message out in the short-term by being signed to a label with better distribution. Yeah, if they stayed on some tiny little indie label, they'd be "staying true to their word" or whatever, but no one would hear their word.

Nah, I don't buy that. You could go further to say they could make their millions to further their message more and more. THey'll loose their touch with their cause, and....sellout!

Invicta_Veritas

03-01-2005, 01:58 PM

Nah, I don't buy that. You could go further to say they could make their millions to further their message more and more. THey'll loose their touch with their cause, and....sellout!

Here we go with the sellout discussion :rolleyes:

wearer of socks

03-01-2005, 02:06 PM

As long as the music stays good, who cares if the band is popular

Right now ive been listening to:
Soilent Green- a deleted symphony for the beaten down
Neurosis-through silver in blood
The Black Dahlia Murder- Unhallowed

Im not sure what type of music those are but they are all quality bands. I also just picked up the candlemass dvd at the request of a friend and is pretty neat, im not too familiar with doom though.

Invicta_Veritas

03-01-2005, 02:07 PM

As long as the music stays good, who cares if the band is popular

.

Exactly.

Stevie

03-01-2005, 02:25 PM

The point is they arn't true to their cause.

Deathcrush

03-01-2005, 02:26 PM

Exactly.

We aren't discussing the music, we are discussing the lyrical content and the meaning that is supposed to be behind them.

What's certain is that we aren't discussing extreme metal!

ICB

03-01-2005, 02:34 PM

I love death metal, how about you?

(Sorry, just tryin' to stay ON TOPIC, BTCHES)

Deathcrush

03-01-2005, 02:38 PM

I love death metal, how about you?

(Sorry, just tryin' to stay ON TOPIC, BTCHES)

Death metal is gay, Indonesian Porno-funk techno is where it's at.

ICB

03-01-2005, 02:39 PM

Death metal is gay, Indonesian Porno-funk techno is where it's at.

Indo Porno-funk techno is dead, man. Where U B33N @ homes?

RCA

03-01-2005, 03:54 PM

I was browsing Metal Archives when I found this...

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=33843

:lol:

LordDargon

03-01-2005, 03:56 PM

I was browsing Metal Archives when I found this...

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=33843

:lol:
:lol:

That reminds me.

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=21851

Saddest thing ever. I wish I could say it was a joke band.

Deathcrush

03-01-2005, 04:00 PM

:lol: Those are awesome, got anymore? :lol:

BoboTheRagingHobo

03-01-2005, 04:00 PM

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=30299

This is another one. :lol:

Deathcrush

03-01-2005, 04:01 PM

The same one? :confused:

Ima go searching.

EDIT : I saw that, Bobo. ;)

ninjamonkey

03-01-2005, 04:14 PM

I've not heard any seance bar the "Levitised Spirit" demo [/kvlt] - Any good?

And here's some advertising! The River on the net: http://www.soundclick.com/bands/8/theriver.htm

This is a song that was recorded for a split 7" on COTD records , however its been delayed for so long that I thought I'd let some of you have a listen. Note the kvlt raw production due to a one take recording session! Everything done live in a dingy, damp room - just the way its supposed to be done!
Yes, Seance is good. I like that track btw.

Is it just me or are deicide and morbid angel's lyrical subjects sound the same as each other?
alot of death lyrics seem to be gore death stuff- cannibal corpse, mortician, autopsy etc. or religious stuff like MA and deicide...

being relatively new to death metal please tell me...
what bands are a huge departure from this?
Disavowed sing about "Philosophy, Human Nature, Evolution, Psychology"

Deathcrush

03-01-2005, 04:21 PM

And alot of doom-death, with its lyrics revolving around more personal things.

Bartender

03-01-2005, 06:04 PM

BoboTheRagingHobo

03-01-2005, 06:08 PM

?

That doesn't make any sense.

Pssssss he's trying to sound extremely tr00 while pulling **** out of his ***. ;)

Silenius

03-01-2005, 06:22 PM

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=30299

This is another one. :lol:
Yeah, those guys crack me up. :lol:

manuscriptreplica

03-01-2005, 07:48 PM

Later Death works are philosophical, though I'd avoid anything "Individual Thought Patterns" onwards (Christian).

I think it's funny that the original Death logo had an inverted cross for T, but when Chuck became christian the horizontal slash in the T was sudddenly in the middle :D

Oh yeah, I just put on the Dark Funeral's version of Pagan Fears, and with the better production I think it's much better than the Mayhem's version! You should definitely try and hear it

Berner

03-01-2005, 10:13 PM

http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=6880020#post6880020

This is a link to a thread I made. Please go and check out, especially you Black Metal fans.

manuscriptreplica

03-01-2005, 10:17 PM

The guitar is great, but the drums sound out of time :( (for the main riff)

Berner

03-01-2005, 10:20 PM

The guitar is great, but the drums sound out of time :( (for the main riff)Thanks man but like I said, it's a rough version.

manuscriptreplica

03-01-2005, 10:28 PM

Well the riff is great :thumb:

Berner

03-01-2005, 10:30 PM

Thanks.

Freezing Moon

03-02-2005, 12:00 AM

I was just reading some of Demilich's lyrics... They have some really out-there stuff. I'm starting to like them a lot more. Too bad they didn't make more CD's. :-\

br3ad_man

03-02-2005, 01:25 AM

Jondur: The River owns. Good work.

I'm trying to find some stuff from Vondur, but there's nothing on slsk. Can anyone help?

Deathcrush

03-02-2005, 02:34 AM

http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=6880020#post6880020

This is a link to a thread I made. Please go and check out, especially you Black Metal fans.

Technically, it is a good riff.

But knowing that it is only for "shits and giggles" makes me hate it.

br3ad_man

03-02-2005, 03:03 AM

I just read this big thing on Akercocke. What's up with those guys?

ArandomBassist

03-02-2005, 03:29 AM

I think it's funny that the original Death logo had an inverted cross for T, but when Chuck became christian the horizontal slash in the T was sudddenly in the middle :D

Chuck went Christian? then whats with all the Nietzch stuff on the inside cover of TSOP? Wasnt Nietzch very anti-christian?

Lord Abortion

03-02-2005, 03:30 AM

thanks ... Carcass are great I really forgot about their odd stuff...

don't get me wrong - I love gore lyrics and religious stuff I just wondered about other good departures from tried and tested topics

and Dargon... Lovecraft is my favourite authour ever "inside the walls of eryx" is one of his best

Lord Abortion

03-02-2005, 03:33 AM

Chuck went Christian? then whats with all the Nietzch stuff on the inside cover of TSOP? Wasnt Nietzch very anti-christian?

wierd from "evil" chuck don't you think?

Jondur

03-02-2005, 03:47 AM

OK lets play a quick game of tr00 or fasle:

Belphegor?
- I can't see how this band can be anything other than the best thing since sliced darkthrone. Try and find a song called "Swarm of Rats" - it's ace! If in doubt shout "Six, six, six!"

Keep of Kalessin?
- Vocalist sounds like Attila! But there hints of gay keyboardage. I remain unconvinced

Vlad Tepes?
- tr00 production but sounds like remarkably unconvincing to me.

Kult of Azazel?
- surely that sould be kvlt of Azazel? Sounds a bit happy to me?

Mor Dagor?
- Sounds like De Mysteriis played at 45 rpm! Ace! Vocals are bit zyklon stylee distorted for my liking.

Catemenia?
- Imagine if Cradle and Dimmu sold out some more?

Deathcrush

03-02-2005, 03:57 AM

Vlad Tepes?
- tr00 production but sounds like remarkably unconvincing to me

Don't diss Vlad Tepes, mother****er!

Well, apart from the vocals which can be rather crap at times...

Jondur

03-02-2005, 04:13 AM

I want to get some webspace where I can put some music files to let you guys listen. Any ideas?

a) it has to be free
b) this will all be illegal

LordDargon

03-02-2005, 06:38 AM

?

That doesn't make any sense.
When they're struggling to be heard and they can hardly put food on the table, of course they are angry with industry. But once they get signed to a big label, they get rich, they get comfortable, they no longer give a ****.

I was just reading some of Demilich's lyrics... They have some really out-there stuff. I'm starting to like them a lot more. Too bad they didn't make more CD's. :-\
Did you know you can download all their stuff on their site?

and Dargon... Lovecraft is my favourite authour ever "inside the walls of eryx" is one of his best
That's the one about the invisible maze on mars? Naturally, it's brilliant, but I don't like it the best. The Lurking Fear had me crapping my pants off :lol:

Belphegor?
- I can't see how this band can be anything other than the best thing since sliced darkthrone. Try and find a song called "Swarm of Rats" - it's ace! If in doubt shout "Six, six, six!"
Sounds hawt. /me checks out

Looks like my yelling at the n00bs to stop spamming worked. :lol:

NP: Cancer - Death Shall Rise

ThrashMaster27

03-02-2005, 06:43 AM

Dammit, I love that Cancer album. God knows how an English band got James Murphy to play lead for 'em. Turned out good though!

Lord Abortion

03-02-2005, 06:47 AM

That's the one about the invisible maze on mars? Naturally, it's brilliant, but I don't like it the best. The Lurking Fear had me crapping my pants off :lol:

yup that's brilliant too
the rats in the walls and the shadow out of time are great ones

odd... but all of my BM songs are based on lovecraft stories- the shadow out of time, phantasmagoria, and the haunter of the dark are all songs I wrote...

LordDargon

03-02-2005, 06:49 AM

Got any old-school recommendations for me? I've been getting into it lately. This is what I have/plan to get:

Autopsy
Demilich
Demigod
Cancer
Massacra
Grave
Dismember
Opressor
Broken Hope
Bolt Thrower

Any other essentials?
I also tried Atrocity, didn't much like it.

LegionsofMarduk

03-02-2005, 06:57 AM

LordDargon

03-02-2005, 07:00 AM

Forgot to mention, I also tried Asphyx. :p I'll check out Unleashed though.

Jondur

03-02-2005, 07:38 AM

Carnage are an essential. Also try House of Usher, Nirvana 2002, At The Gates "Gardens of Grief", Master, Merciless, Mefisto etc

NJMetalMeister

03-02-2005, 08:12 AM

I also heartily reccomend the Edge of Sanity "Unorthodox" album for some more classic death metal

manuscriptreplica

03-02-2005, 08:34 AM

What is classic death metal as opposed to death metal

NJMetalMeister

03-02-2005, 08:45 AM

Well classic death metal doesnt really have too distinct of a sound other than the fact the production gives away that it was recorded quite a bit of time ago. The music itself is a bit more simplistic than some more current death metal acts, but mostly classic is more or less just a term thrown in there for "must have older death metal".

RCA

03-02-2005, 08:46 AM

What is classic death metal as opposed to death metal

I think classic means more "old-school". I could be wrong (and probably am...), but that's how I use the term.

I found some old Dismember tapes yesterday, post LaEFS stuff.

manuscriptreplica

03-02-2005, 08:48 AM

Would Cannibal Corpse be considered as 'classic'?

Jondur

03-02-2005, 08:52 AM

I tend to use the term "old-school" to describe death metal from the days before hyper-blasts, overly technical riffs and Yngwie solo fests.

Lord Abortion

03-02-2005, 08:52 AM

Would Cannibal Corpse be considered as 'classic'?
classic as in
"you hear this?
****in' classic man!" :thumb:

NJMetalMeister

03-02-2005, 08:53 AM

I tend to use the term "old-school" to describe death metal from the days before hyper-blasts, overly technical riffs and Yngwie solo fests.

fine, you use old school, i use classic, its the same thing, and rules no matter what you call it.

Jondur

03-02-2005, 09:07 AM

Amen. And now playing is Autopsy - Severed Survival. I move the motion that "Critical Madness" is THE best death metal song ever.

Lord Abortion

03-02-2005, 09:09 AM

now playing is ...
morbid angel - chapel of ghouls
"fools -your god is dead!"

Dancin' Man

03-02-2005, 09:19 AM

I go for traditional. So long as people know what you're talking about.

NP - Arsis - Return

ICB

03-02-2005, 09:46 AM

NP-Dying Fetus-Stop at Nothing (I'm trying to wake up, here).

Bartender

03-02-2005, 10:37 AM

I want to get some webspace where I can put some music files to let you guys listen. Any ideas?

a) it has to be free
b) this will all be illegal

http://s19.yousendit.com/

I don't know if it's quite what you're looking for..it's basic idea is that you put the email address of the person you want to send a file to, and upload the file to free webspace; they are sent an email with the link, and can download at their leisure.

But, you don't have to put in their email, or even any email (though you can put your own in, so you can always have a copy of the link handy); it gives you a link for the download page once it's uploaded anyway. File size limit is 1GB, which shouldn't be a problem. Only real disadvantage is that it's purely temporary; after a certain number of downloads (not sure how many, as I've had dozens of people download without the link expiring) or a certain length of time (again, not sure how long; I've used the same links for weeks in Forced Listenings). If you literally mean just for us here, then that shouldn't be a problem anyway.

Incidentally, are that Belphegor the same band that did Lucifer Incestus, or is this another, tr00er Belphegor?

Jondur

03-02-2005, 11:02 AM

ForiegnPenguin

03-02-2005, 01:02 PM

Morbid Angel was awesome live. They played Blasphemy and Chapel of Ghouls, my favorites.

Stevie

03-02-2005, 01:38 PM

Your opinions on Autopsy's Shitfun?

Deathcrush

03-02-2005, 01:59 PM

Blagh! Just my luck! The weather outside is PERFECT for a trip to the woods with a digital camera to get a shot for my demo's front cover; and the camera doesn't work!

Hails, Zteive. Do you make music?

ninjamonkey

03-02-2005, 02:17 PM

Technically, it is a good riff.

But knowing that it is only for "shits and giggles" makes me hate it.
Why does that make you hate it? If your music is not for "****s and giggles" then you take yourself far too seriously.

I really like Immolation - No Jesus No Beast

I think if Satan had a theme, it would be that.

Invicta_Veritas

03-02-2005, 02:17 PM

I just spent some time on the net listening to Amon Amarth- Versus the world and to Opeth-Blackwater Park, and I have wholeheartedly decided to pick them up after work tonight.

Deathcrush

03-02-2005, 02:22 PM

Why does that make you hate it? If your music is not for "****s and giggles" then you take yourself far too seriously.

I don't really hate it, it is a good riff, I was half joking.

My music is certainly not for shits and giggles. Why the **** does that mean I am "too serious"?

LordDargon

03-02-2005, 02:31 PM

It means that you are allowed to be as airheaded as you want, but Satan forbid you should be grim - that's just not allowed!

NP: Facebreaker - Bloodred Hell

Deathcrush

03-02-2005, 02:32 PM

It means that you are allowed to be as airheaded as you want, but Satan forbid you should be grim - that's just not allowed!

It has nothing to ****ing do with being "grim", but how the **** is the music black if you aren't 100% serious about it?

Vitriolic Rage

03-02-2005, 02:38 PM

ninjamonkey

03-02-2005, 02:48 PM

It has nothing to ****ing do with being "grim", but how the **** is the music black if you aren't 100% serious about it?
No where in the genre definition or description of black metal does it say "has to be 100% serious." lol

Deathcrush

03-02-2005, 02:51 PM

No where in the genre definition or description of black metal does it say "has to be 100% serious." lol

No, it doesn't have to be. But it is much less dark, and certainly not black if it isn't serious.

There are too many bands making black metal just for the sake of making black metal.

Ugh, it makes me want to puke my guts up, I hate them so much.

Bartender

03-02-2005, 02:54 PM

It is the same Belphegor - I think they're ace. Heres the yousendit link to Swarm of Rats http://s19.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1WVRD5KYS9WDH3SMK6TNB8XYLX

Still wish I could get something where I could have a list of songs with some info etc.

You could try being a bit clever with your posting of yousendit links (masking them in text, giving information about them in the post you make about them), but otherwise, I don't use anything else, so I don't think I can have an opinion.

That song's good, anyway. I was thinking of buying a Belphegor album a while ago, but I..didn't.

ninjamonkey

03-02-2005, 03:03 PM

No, it doesn't have to be. But it is much less dark, and certainly not black if it isn't serious.

There are too many bands making black metal just for the sake of making black metal.

Ugh, it makes me want to puke my guts up, I hate them so much.
Your first statement there is a contradiction. You agreed with me, then supported it with the opposite.

Maybe they make black metal because they like the music. Maybe they think the music is cool, but being tr00 etc. is gay.

Maybe tr00 bands make more people want to puke their guts up than those who dislike untr00 bands.

What you have essentially said is that you don't like bands, even if they make good music, if they don't believe in the ideology of all the tr00 bands of the genre or are not 100% serious.

Berner

03-02-2005, 03:04 PM

Technically, it is a good riff.

But knowing that it is only for "shits and giggles" makes me hate it.When I say that I mean I don't plan on making a big deal out of it. It's for my own enjoyment/satisfaction. I just was wondering what other Black Metal fans thought of it.

Stevie

03-02-2005, 03:08 PM

Black metal must be 100% true to the soul of the maker to be truely black.

Deathcrush

03-02-2005, 03:10 PM

Your first statement there is a contradiction. You agreed with me, then supported it with the opposite.

Maybe they make black metal because they like the music. Maybe they think the music is cool, but being tr00 etc. is gay.

Maybe tr00 bands make more people want to puke their guts up than those who dislike untr00 bands.

What you have essentially said is that you don't like bands, even if they make good music, if they don't believe in the ideology of all the tr00 bands of the genre or are not 100% serious.

Ugh, you don't understand what I meant (poor wording, sorry).

Many bands make so called "Black Metal" but to be honest aren't black at all. You would still call them black metal, but they aren't true (try not to take that in the "tr00" way).

Pure black metal isn't about making "cool" music. What I am saying is that if the band is trying to make "cool" music, technically they may seem black metal (might have tremelo picking, shrieks etc. like black metal) but they are void of the most essential part - the blackness. This part really does affect the music, even if it is only the most extreme fans that pick up on it.

And no, I don't like "black metal" bands who make non-serious music, unless they are blatantly taking the piss.

I apologise if I am not making sense, or my wording is poor etc. I have not slept in so long and I forget the begining of the sentance before the sentance is over.

Deathcrush

03-02-2005, 03:11 PM

Black metal must be 100% true to the soul of the maker to be truely black.

Yes.

Berner

03-02-2005, 03:16 PM

Ugh, you don't understand what I meant (poor wording, sorry).

Many bands make so called "Black Metal" but to be honest aren't black at all. You would still call them black metal, but they aren't true (try not to take that in the "tr00" way).

Pure black metal isn't about making "cool" music. What I am saying is that if the band is trying to make "cool" music, technically they may seem black metal (might have tremelo picking, shrieks etc. like black metal) but they are void of the most essential part - the blackness. This part really does affect the music, even if it is only the most extreme fans that pick up on it.

And no, I don't like "black metal" bands who make non-serious music, unless they are blatantly taking the piss.

I apologise if I am not making sense, or my wording is poor etc. I have not slept in so long and I forget the begining of the sentance before the sentance is over.Essentially you are saying that it is a way of life as well as a genre. In order to be truely black metal one must live the life day in day out. Correct?

Deathcrush

03-02-2005, 03:17 PM

Essentially you are saying that it is a way of life as well as a genre. In order to be truely black metal one must live the life day in day out. Correct?

No.

Berner

03-02-2005, 03:18 PM

No.Then what the hell are you on about?

NJMetalMeister

03-02-2005, 03:19 PM

Pure black metal isn't about making "cool" music. What I am saying is that if the band is trying to make "cool" music, technically they may seem black metal (might have tremelo picking, shrieks etc. like black metal) but they are void of the most essential part - the blackness. This part really does affect the music, even if it is only the most extreme fans that pick up on it.

So what youre saying is that it can sound as black metal as lets say, transylvanian hunger, in every aspect of it, but if it is lacking this so called "blackness" you speak of, only the elite true black metal fans would be able to pick up if its fake or not, and then hate it, even if it is good music all around?

Wow i hate black metal fans even more than i thought then.

Deathcrush

03-02-2005, 03:20 PM

Then what the hell are you on about?

Just because the music that the person makes is completely serious and from the heart, doesn't mean that the said person has to refrain from ever smiling or "being normal" when around other people.

BoboTheRagingHobo

03-02-2005, 03:21 PM

Then what the hell are you on about?

123

I am wondering the same thing...

Berner

03-02-2005, 03:23 PM

Just because the music that the person makes is completely serious and from the heart, doesn't mean that the said person has to refrain from ever smiling or "being normal" when around other people.You're still not making sense.

Deathcrush

03-02-2005, 03:24 PM

So what youre saying is that it can sound as black metal as lets say, transylvanian hunger, in every aspect of it, but if it is lacking this so called "blackness" you speak of, only the elite true black metal fans would be able to pick up if its fake or not, and then hate it, even if it is good music all around?

Wow i hate black metal fans even more than i thought then.

Ugh, what the hell.

No.

I am sorry, you are being ignorant and in my current state of mind I don't know if I can explain myself properly.

Okay, I'll try.

The music could very much sound like Transylvanian Hunger, the example you used. People could listen to this and say, "Yep, that's some black metal right there, good stuff too, I love those riffs."

But others might listen to it, acknowledge that it is commonly known as "black metal" but can't "feel it". You know? It sounds empty and false.

I can't see why you hate people for this.

EDIT : You say about "even if it is still good music all round". The point is that to these people, it isn't good music.

Deathcrush

03-02-2005, 03:26 PM

Ugh, look, this is impossible for me to explain, okay?

Carry on talking about death metal or whatever and I apologise for slaughtering your thread.

Silenius

03-02-2005, 03:27 PM

So you are saying the feelings/emotions that you get from the music are waht defines it?

EDIT: Whatever, carry on ;)

Berner

03-02-2005, 03:27 PM

Ugh, what the hell.

No.

I am sorry, you are being ignorant and in my current state of mind I don't know if I can explain myself properly.

Okay, I'll try.

The music could very much sound like Transylvanian Hunger, the example you used. People could listen to this and say, "Yep, that's some black metal right there, good stuff too, I love those riffs."

But others might listen to it, acknowledge that it is commonly known as "black metal" but can't "feel it". You know? It sounds empty and false.

I can't see why you hate people for this.So what you are saying is, if a listener doesn't get the black metal "vibe" (for lack of a better word), then it isn't true? That means that trueness will vary from person to person and can't be measured as a whole and applied to certain bands. That's what you are saying. At least that's what I get out of it.

NJMetalMeister

03-02-2005, 03:33 PM

The music could very much sound like Transylvanian Hunger, the example you used. People could listen to this and say, "Yep, that's some black metal right there, good stuff too, I love those riffs."

But others might listen to it, acknowledge that it is commonly known as "black metal" but can't "feel it". You know? It sounds empty and false.

I can't see why you hate people for this.

No i dont see what youre saying at all. I do understand the concept of a band sounding empty and false, yes. However, if it sounds like TH, thats pretty black metal man. To say it isnt black metal just because it sounds "false", is quite ludicrous.

Why do i hate tr00 black metal fans? well there are a couple of reasons. First of all, as a disclaimer, everybody is a music snob to some degree, that is inevitable, but black metal fans really do take elitism to the far extreme. Corpse paint? ridiculous. Going far out of your way to lower production value for any reason other than lack of money? kinda silly. Black metal lyrics? Hilarious for the most part, especially when they are serious, its just totally ****ing laughable.

Now dont get me wrong, i do like a fair amount of black metal, i mean In the Nightside Eclipse is one of my favorite albums of all time. But all of the tr00 nekro kiddies need a wakeup call from real life, and they need to pull the elitism out of their self riteous asses

Dead_Trench

03-02-2005, 03:34 PM

So basically you're talking about the, well it's hard to describe but the atmosphere and feeling it gives off?

whatduffhuck7

03-02-2005, 03:37 PM

who the f.uck cares about black metal, this is a death metal thread.

whatduffhuck7

03-02-2005, 03:38 PM

make a new thread called "does black metal have to be 100% serious. and make a poll to solve your agruments

Deathcrush

03-02-2005, 03:38 PM

No i dont see what youre saying at all. I do understand the concept of a band sounding empty and false, yes. However, if it sounds like TH, thats pretty black metal man. To say it isnt black metal just because it sounds "false", is quite ludicrous.

Why do i hate tr00 black metal fans? well there are a couple of reasons. First of all, as a disclaimer, everybody is a music snob to some degree, that is inevitable, but black metal fans really do take elitism to the far extreme. Corpse paint? ridiculous. Going far out of your way to lower production value for any reason other than lack of money? kinda silly. Black metal lyrics? Hilarious for the most part, especially when they are serious, its just totally ****ing laughable.

Now dont get me wrong, i do like a fair amount of black metal, i mean In the Nightside Eclipse is one of my favorite albums of all time. But all of the tr00 nekro kiddies need a wakeup call from real life, and they need to pull the elitism out of their self riteous asses

I wasn't saying Transylvanian Hunger isn't true. I was saying that music could sound similar to it, but not have that same "spiritual" content that many won't pick up on.

Please stop mocking the lyrics etc.

See, you obviously don't see what I am talking about, but I am not saying you are a lesser person for it.

Seriously, what is wrong with people demanding depth and actual 'art' in their music?

BoboTheRagingHobo

03-02-2005, 03:39 PM

who the f.uck cares about black metal, this is a death metal thread.

this thread is about all extreme metal fool...

Silenius

03-02-2005, 03:41 PM

Let's just all settle down a bit. :)

Deathcrush

03-02-2005, 03:41 PM

Please.

sensitiveorgan00

03-02-2005, 03:41 PM

I just discovered this band, Babylon Sad - death metal from Switzerland. What do you guys think?

Babylon Sad - Picture of Paradise (http://home.frognet.net/~barrycar/Babylon%20Sad%20-%2002%20-%20Pictures%20of%20Paradise.mp3)
Babylon Sad - Unknown Tribe (http://home.frognet.net/~barrycar/Babylon%20Sad%20-%2003%20-%20Unknown%20Tribe.mp3)

LordDargon

03-02-2005, 03:43 PM

So what you are saying is, if a listener doesn't get the black metal "vibe" (for lack of a better word), then it isn't true? That means that trueness will vary from person to person and can't be measured as a whole and applied to certain bands. That's what you are saying. At least that's what I get out of it.
Yeah, I think that's what he's saying.

Anyways, I kind of misread Vitriol's post back (:upset:)there and started this all off.

/me leaves in shame

NJMetalMeister

03-02-2005, 03:45 PM

Please stop mocking the lyrics etc.

Sorry, i had to vent, sometimes i get a little carried away, but you do need to have a sense of humor about those sort of things, you really do.

See, you obviously don't see what I am talking about, but I am not saying you are a lesser person for it.

Well yes, i did say i dont see what youre talking about. As far as black metal fans go, i have no doubt they are cool people, im friends with quite a few myself, but every single one of them, whether they like it or not, have lost touch with reality in some way or another because of their quest for trueness. I dont mean to offend anyone in here, but sometimes you do need to take a step back and take another look at things.

Seriously, what is wrong with people demanding depth and actual 'art' in their music?

Absolutely nothing, and i wouldnt consider a single thing i listen to to not have depth in some way or another, or be any less artistic than any other album i enjoy. All i am saying is that to say that there is some sort of true black metal vibe that only a chosen few can pick up on, its flat out ridiculous. Just because a band doesnt stand true to their lyrics to the exact letter, does not mean there is any less depth or art in what they have written. Some people want to make black metal because they like the way it sounds, and have fun playing it, and who is to say that they are not playing black metal just because it doesnt have this vibe, or they dont live up to what their lyrics are saying.

Deathcrush

03-02-2005, 03:49 PM

Ugh, we aren't getting anywhere, and I am beggining to use "ugh" at the start of my posts.

Who here likes Gorefest? :)

ninjamonkey

03-02-2005, 03:53 PM

I like Gorement

Toozey

03-02-2005, 05:46 PM

Truth.
Many bands, for example Carcass (when they were still together) never took their lyrics seriously (if you do, then you need psychiatric help), but some bands, for example Akercocke and Burzum (or at least he was) are deadly serious.

HAHA

This thread turned into a joke fast with you idiots.

Akercocke aren't to be taken seriously, bloody hell, their image is all about getting attention. No bands these days go on about Satanism, this is not Slayer back in 1984! Akercocke are just playing up to the media.

And really do you think Burzum lyrics are serious? Varg is a walking contradiction, you should read his lyrics with a pinch of salt...

It's complete stupidty to say Black Metal is not true or 100% Black Metal if you aren't 100% behind the philosphy. Wake up, Black Metal as a genre is full of contradictary philosphies, there is no one true black metal way of thinking. The closest thing I would come up with is that Black Metal is similar to old school punk thinking.

Black Metal is about creating an atmosphere, not "spreading the truth" or whatever about society. That's bollocks.

Black Metal has many different sounds and it also has many different lyrical themes.

If I have missed the point of what the earlier people were trying to make then I don't really care. Go off to the woods and take shots for your demo cover with your "tr00" and "kvlt" digital camera.

LegionsofMarduk

03-02-2005, 05:47 PM

Oh wow...drama.

*has nothing to add*

NP: Mutilation - Black Millennium

BradyEB

03-02-2005, 10:29 PM

HAHA
Go off to the woods and take shots for your demo cover with your "tr00" and "kvlt" digital camera.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

bassaholica2004

03-02-2005, 11:20 PM

Whoa, I leave for a few days, come back, and theres a fight about BM in the Death Head's Thread. And, from what it seems (I've read only this page), its between some of the regular DH posters. Anyway, I'll leave this one alone.

I've mentioned them before, but I think only 1 other person had heard of them. Anyone know anything about the American BM band Abazagorath? They're not very original or anything, but for what they do they do it pretty well. I've got 3 songs by them, and I was wondering if the entire album is worth picking up?

Hammerheart

03-02-2005, 11:28 PM

I like Nokturnal Mortum. Even though they aren't death metal. Does anyone else like Nokturnal Mortum?

Berner

03-02-2005, 11:31 PM

http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=309237

Shameless plug cause I have only gotten a few replies and would like more.

br3ad_man

03-03-2005, 12:49 AM

If I have missed the point of what the earlier people were trying to make then I don't really care. Go off to the woods and take shots for your demo cover with your "tr00" and "kvlt" digital camera.

haha :lol:

I just checked out Cult of Luna. Great, great stuff.

Cardboard Headgear

03-03-2005, 01:31 AM

Go buy the new Novembers Doom album, The Pale Haunt Departure. It is fecking amazing and I can't stop listening to it.

Toozey

03-03-2005, 01:49 AM

haha :lol:

I just checked out Cult of Luna. Great, great stuff.

I think Cult of Luna are one of the best bands on the planet. Depth charge after depth charge of emotion.

AvantGardeMercenary

03-03-2005, 01:51 AM

In response to your question in the thread title: No. There are most certainly NOT any other death heads. (didn't read a lick of any of the thread itself)

Ramsey

03-03-2005, 01:52 AM

In response to your question in the thread title: No. There are most certainly NOT any other death heads. (didn't read a lick of any of the thread itself)
Yes, thats why there are 600 pages to this thread.

AvantGardeMercenary

03-03-2005, 01:59 AM

Yes, thats why there are 600 pages to this thread.

Nah you're wrong. He's the only one.

(I love people who sincerely can't pick up on sarcasm. It's so **** cute.)

br3ad_man

03-03-2005, 02:21 AM

I think Cult of Luna are one of the best bands on the planet. Depth charge after depth charge of emotion.

From the one song I heard, I'd agree.

One of a Kind

03-03-2005, 02:32 AM

Is it just me...or do Quo Vadis ****ing rock. Yes...I've picked up alot of death/black metal bands in my absense from this forum.

Hmm...Amon Amarth, Athiest, Bathory, Cryptopsy, Cynic, Finntroll, Hypocrisy, Infernal Majesty, Kataklysm, Old Man's Child, Quo Vadis, and The Red Chord...just to name a few.

Any other suggestions. I love death metal now. So much. <3 haha

br3ad_man

03-03-2005, 03:07 AM

Between The Buried and Me!!!!

http://betweentheburiedandme.com/audio/btbamsilent4.mp3

Jondur

03-03-2005, 03:35 AM

Many bands make so called "Black Metal" but to be honest aren't black at all. You would still call them black metal, but they aren't true (try not to take that in the "tr00" way).

Pure black metal isn't about making "cool" music. What I am saying is that if the band is trying to make "cool" music, technically they may seem black metal (might have tremelo picking, shrieks etc. like black metal) but they are void of the most essential part - the blackness. This part really does affect the music, even if it is only the most extreme fans that pick up on it.

It's a good point. I think the rest of you are picking somewhat - ok the point that the defining factor of a genre is undefinable is undefendable, but surely all of you have listened to something and thought "technically good but somehow soulless"?

The very point of music is the emotions it raises. Black metal shold evoke feelings of evil and cold, viking metal should make you feel like a warrior, stoner should make you feel like a shirt lifting fairy.

And no, I don't like "black metal" bands who make non-serious music, unless they are blatantly taking the piss.
.

I think I'd be quite offended if someone said "Oh I thought I'd have a go at playing doom metal for a laugh".

NJMetalMeister

03-03-2005, 05:24 AM

Go buy the new Novembers Doom album, The Pale Haunt Departure. It is fecking amazing and I can't stop listening to it.

Quoted for troof

LordDargon

03-03-2005, 06:11 AM

sickgoregrind

03-03-2005, 07:38 AM

Anyone have any recommendations of the best Moonblood demo to try and find?

Deathcrush

03-03-2005, 07:43 AM

Anyone have any recommendations of the best Moonblood demo to try and find?

The Winter Falls over the Land.

LegionsofMarduk

03-03-2005, 08:01 AM

As far as Moonblood...I'm rather partial to Blut Und Kreig. It's a full length official release though, not one of the demos. If you have to have an actual demo, then I agree with Emperor.

LordDargon

03-03-2005, 08:03 AM

Does anyone (and by "anyone" I mean "LegionsofMarduk") remember "Krapfen ist Krieg"?

:lol:, oh man, good times

sickgoregrind

03-03-2005, 08:34 AM

What are peoples opinion on the new Mutiilation album 'Rattenkonig'?
I recently aquired it and despite the mediocre reviews i found it to be quite good actually, better than Majestus Leprosus but not as good as black millenium, adding new elements although im not too sure about the digitalised vocals on the third track.

LordDargon

03-03-2005, 09:26 AM

http://www.myspace.com/whore

Go there and click on "Emotional Punching Bag".

Oh yeah. I likey. :cool:

HappyMarshmellow

03-03-2005, 09:29 AM

Between The Buried and Me!!!!

http://betweentheburiedandme.com/audio/btbamsilent4.mp3

I thought this was a Death's Heads thread? What the hell is Between The Buried and Me doing here?

HappyMarshmellow

03-03-2005, 09:30 AM

I like Nokturnal Mortum. Even though they aren't death metal. Does anyone else like Nokturnal Mortum?

They're great. I've got Lunar Poetry, Goathorns, To The Gate Of Blasphemous Fire, and NeChrist.

All great.

Hammerheart

03-03-2005, 09:40 AM

ICB

03-03-2005, 09:50 AM

I thought this was a Death's Heads thread? What the hell is Between The Buried and Me doing here?

*sigh*. If I could kick *** over the internet, I'd kick that guy's *** all over. This is a thread committed to DEATH METAL, people, not crappy, overrated metalcore.

Hammerheart

03-03-2005, 09:52 AM

Death to false metal! :angry:

LordDargon

03-03-2005, 10:01 AM

*sigh*. If I could kick *** over the internet, I'd kick that guy's *** all over. This is a thread committed to DEATH METAL, people, not crappy, overrated metalcore.
Yes, breadman can be exceedingly gay at times.

"Darkthrone is so scary!!! Boo Hooes! :'-("

ICB

03-03-2005, 10:03 AM

Yes, breadman can be exceedingly gay at times.

"Darkthrone is so scary!!! Boo Hooes! :'-("

:lol:

That reminds me, I should be getting some old school Amon Amarth today from a friend...this fat beaner wanted me to burn a CD by them, but he's a trendy bitch who loves any mainstream crap. So he ain't gettin' jack.

LordDargon

03-03-2005, 10:06 AM

:lol:

That reminds me, I should be getting some old school Amon Amarth today from a friend...this fat beaner wanted me to burn a CD by them, but he's a trendy bitch who loves any mainstream crap. So he ain't gettin' jack.
Ahahah, :thumb:

So hurry up and listen to that Whore I posted, already. ****ing brutal raging skull****ing death/grind.

ICB

03-03-2005, 10:07 AM

This computer doesn't have speakers, and I don't have any headphones. Plus it blocks myspace.

ICB

03-03-2005, 10:15 AM

Dargon, just post an mp3 so I can download it onto a disk, take it home, and burn it, dude.

Toozey

03-03-2005, 11:04 AM

LordDargon

03-03-2005, 12:59 PM

Thanks for the Belphegor recommendation Jondur. My poseur *** cannot withstand the relentless onslaught. Any similar bands you got?

ninjamonkey

03-03-2005, 03:35 PM

*sigh*. If I could kick *** over the internet, I'd kick that guy's *** all over. This is a thread committed to DEATH METAL, people, not crappy, overrated metalcore.
Death to false metal! :angry:
YEAH!11 **** off nowadays untr00 metal. :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:

/incredible amounts of sarcasm

btw, I'm getting incredibly sick of poser-elitists.

EDIT: LOL, i just saw someone gave me neg rep for oen of my earlier posts int his thread. Good job! :rolleyes: Your e-punishing me totally hurts my ego :thumb:

Lord Abortion

03-03-2005, 03:38 PM

settle an arguement for me...

evil chuck from Death did not do vocals on their debut ...yes?

I know i'm right...

LordDargon

03-03-2005, 03:50 PM

settle an arguement for me...

evil chuck from Death did not do vocals on their debut ...yes?

I know i'm right...
On their debut? Like, Scream Bloody Gore type debut? Chuck Schuldiner did those vocals, yes. You're wrong. :thumb:

Lord Abortion

03-03-2005, 03:56 PM

no ...the demo beforehand

Flamestos

03-03-2005, 03:59 PM

Chuck did those vocals as well to my knowledge.

Lord Abortion

03-03-2005, 04:06 PM

stupid lying history of heavy metal book

ninjamonkey

03-03-2005, 04:12 PM

we need the search back god ****it

NP: Therion - Enter the Depths of Eternal Darkness

Cardboard Headgear

03-03-2005, 04:21 PM

Black metal must be 100% true to the soul of the maker to be truely black.
I quite enjoy the irony in saying "God I hate you Stevie".

NP: Autumn Leaves - The Reign Supreme

Bartender

03-03-2005, 04:21 PM

I thought Chuck did all the vocals for Death?

And yes, we do need the search back.

sensitiveorgan00

03-03-2005, 04:30 PM

^ Why was the search function removed in the first place?

craggyisland

03-03-2005, 04:31 PM

Bartender

03-03-2005, 04:31 PM

^ Why was the search function removed in the first place?

I don't know. It might have been an oversight in the panic-upgrade vBulletin put out, or mx may have disabled it to relieve strain on the server.

ninjamonkey

03-03-2005, 05:26 PM

probably a panic upgrade, considering another forum i got to recently lost it's search function as well.

Hammerheart

03-03-2005, 05:40 PM

YEAH!11 **** off nowadays untr00 metal. :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:

/incredible amounts of sarcasm

btw, I'm getting incredibly sick of poser-elitists.

EDIT: LOL, i just saw someone gave me neg rep for oen of my earlier posts int his thread. Good job! :rolleyes: Your e-punishing me totally hurts my ego :thumb:

that was pretty lame.

RetiredAt21

03-03-2005, 06:33 PM

Yeah, I have to agree with TheMightyTrym.

sensitiveorgan00

03-03-2005, 06:46 PM

I listened to my first Pyscroptic song last night, killer shi.t.

Also, you guys heard about Necrophagist unabled to tour in Europe?

Silenius

03-03-2005, 06:48 PM

I listened to my first Pyscroptic song last night, killer shi.t.

Also, you guys heard about Necrophagist unabled to tour in Europe?
Yeah, they rule.

Whay can't Necrophagist tour Europe? :confused:

Bartender

03-03-2005, 06:49 PM

From http://www.necrophagist.de

"Due to health problems that will prevent me from performing on stage or leaving Stuttgart, NECROPHAGIST is unfortunately forced to cancel our upcoming tours with MORBID ANGEL and NILE as well as our own shows. The situation is dire enough that without cancellation of these dates the very existence of the band and my playing is threatened.

NECROPHAGIST and I were looking forward to bringing the Epitaph record to life for the first time, and not being able to do so is an enormous disappointment to us.

I am sorry to disappoint you, our amazing fans and supporters, and my fellow bandmates, who have been working intensely with an amazingly professional attitude and are eager to destroy the stage. I know this has been their big dream and a great opportunity, but the situation does not allow me to continue for now. I promise to make sure I will get back on track as soon as my health allows, because I owe this to our fans and my bandmates.

Muhammed Suicmez, March 2 2005"

:(

Silenius

03-03-2005, 06:52 PM

From http://www.necrophagist.de

:(
I wonder whats up with Muhammed. :(

CaptainWaits

03-03-2005, 07:06 PM

Guys, check out this forum:

http://www.s9.invisionfree.com/Entertainment_Forums

It's a building forum, and almost everyone registered (38 right now) is from mx. It's been around for about 3 weeks now, and we need more members. So click the link and have a look around, and hopefully register if you like what you see.

LordDargon

03-03-2005, 07:08 PM

Psycroptic are very good. \m/

Too bad for Muhammed, and everyone planning to go see them :(

xizoesira

03-03-2005, 09:24 PM

I got all of Blutsabbat and a few tracks of Necrodaemon Terrorsath downloaded while I was in class, Dargon. I'm really liking it.

ninjamonkey

03-03-2005, 11:03 PM

that was pretty lame.
What part about it?

Dargon, what's your AIM? I couldn't fit my whole msg into the rep i gave you. lol

Hammerheart

03-03-2005, 11:21 PM

What part about it?

Dargon, what's your AIM? I couldn't fit my whole msg into the rep i gave you. lol

Pretty much everything, even the edit.

BoboTheRagingHobo

03-03-2005, 11:46 PM

What part about it?

Dargon, what's your AIM? I couldn't fit my whole msg into the rep i gave you. lol

Dargon doesn't have AIM I do believe, because he is too tr00 to waste his time with it.

And rep is now gone, so it doesn't matter.

Yams

03-04-2005, 12:20 AM

those aren't that heavy

I agree not heavy

Cardboard Headgear

03-04-2005, 12:56 AM

And rep is now gone, so it doesn't matter.
I've been stripped of my stars! I cannot bear the shame!

*sepuku*

NP: Trivium - Pull Harder On The Strings Of Your Martyr
Yeah, piss off, I like Trivium.

BoboTheRagingHobo

03-04-2005, 01:01 AM

I've been stripped of my stars! I cannot bear the shame!

*sepuku*

NP: Trivium - Pull Harder On The Strings Of Your Martyr
Yeah, piss off, I like Trivium.

*seppuku

/also likes Trivium

To keep this some what a real post...

I got an Intestine Baalism album off of Dargon, and wow, they rule...

Freezing Moon

03-04-2005, 01:35 AM

I got an Intestine Baalism album off of Dargon, and wow, they rule...

Wow, from the two songs I have heard off of it, it does indeed rule. In a way they kind of remind me of Quo Vadis, but there are lots of differences.

Great stuff.

Deathcrush

03-04-2005, 02:29 AM

Noooooo!

My precious, precious stars!

:(

Hey! How come some people still have them? :confused:

Jondur

03-04-2005, 03:08 AM

But the stars were the only thing that reminded people how great I am!

ArcLite

03-04-2005, 03:10 AM

But the stars were the only thing that reminded people how great I am!

Meh, you're an MX legend just by name...

superpeer

03-04-2005, 03:42 AM

From http://www.necrophagist.de

:(

Noo ! Now who will tour with Morbid angel? :(

blackout

03-04-2005, 03:46 AM

Thats what I was thinking. Not sure if i'll go now.

Jondur

03-04-2005, 03:54 AM

Samael "After the Sepulture" (http://s19.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1CQQVM5WEUPF7292C5B4JXCOWE)

Here's some very nasty early black metal.

Stoic

03-04-2005, 05:43 AM

News of the weekend: I got Psycroptic's Scepter of the Ancients from a trade!

EDIT:
What happened to the stars again?

Riva

03-04-2005, 05:48 AM

I got my first Emperor album a while back, and I have been listening to it quite a lot. I really love it. However, is this one of the infamous "bad quality" recordings? Because it sounds rather clear.

superpeer

03-04-2005, 05:49 AM

Which one is it?

Riva

03-04-2005, 05:52 AM

I'm stupid. Anthems To The Welkin At Dusk.

Riva

03-04-2005, 06:26 AM

Samael "After the Sepulture" (http://s19.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1CQQVM5WEUPF7292C5B4JXCOWE)

Here's some very nasty early black metal.

Wow, that is awesome. Reminds me of Black Sabbath, in tone and mood. The tempo isn't like other black metal that I have heard though. Great riffs and vocals.

superpeer

03-04-2005, 06:34 AM

I'm stupid. Anthems To The Welkin At Dusk.

Usually the bad production reproach is directed at 'In the Nightside Eclipse', not that one.

Riva

03-04-2005, 06:39 AM

Usually the bad production reproach is directed at 'In the Nightside Eclipse', not that one.

I thought so. Looks like I have a new album to order, as well. :)

superpeer

03-04-2005, 06:39 AM

:eek: Someone sent me 'Det Som Engang var' by Burzum (the entire album), I was never really into Burzum, but this is gooood.

Crazy how such an evil man can make such beautiful songs.

HappyMarshmellow

03-04-2005, 06:41 AM

:eek: Someone sent me 'Det Som Engang var' by Burzum (the entire album), I was never really into Burzum, but this is gooood.

Crazy how such an evil man can make such beautiful songs.

"Beautiful"? :lol:

They're great songs, but I wouldn't exactly describe them as beautiful.

Lord Abortion

03-04-2005, 06:42 AM

There is a Death demo which is basically a recording of a rehearsal, while they were still called Mantas, which has Kam Lee on vocals (Emotional). Their first official demo, and album, both had Schuldiner doing vocals.
Yes... I think that's the one I heard that didn't sound like chuck...

he had a high pitched scream that was like "DIE!! DIE!! DIE!!"
What I heard that chuck got pissed of and chucked him out, wish I could remember his name...

Apocalyptic Raids

03-04-2005, 06:42 AM

News of the weekend: I got Psycroptic's Scepter of the Ancients from a trade!

EDIT:
What happened to the stars again?
Psycroptic \m/

and the rep system has been taken away i think

Riva

03-04-2005, 06:42 AM

Even psychopathic pagans can have inner beauty. :)

superpeer

03-04-2005, 06:44 AM

"Beautiful"? :lol:

They're great songs, but I wouldn't exactly describe them as beautiful.

Well, that was perhaps not the best word. But the atmosphere, it's really something.

Very impressive if you know that he played every instrument.

Jondur

03-04-2005, 06:52 AM

If anyone's interested I posted a load of great doom metal songs in the stoner/doom fans thread.

LordDargon

03-04-2005, 06:56 AM

Hey Jondur, back there I asked if you knew of any other bands with the incredible atmosphere on Belphegor - Necrodaemon Terrorsathan? So malevolent :evil:

Jondur

03-04-2005, 08:16 AM

Not really - I'm not the best one for black metal. Maybe somone else could help?

Lord Abortion

03-04-2005, 08:18 AM

Not really - I'm not the best one for black metal. Maybe somone else could help?
barzum's stuff (though I hate varg) is amazing for atmophere
especially early on
not that I endorse him at all ...bastard

sickgoregrind

03-04-2005, 09:06 AM

"Barzum's" atmosphere is nothing like Belphegor.

Maybe somthing like Abominator?

Bartender

03-04-2005, 09:41 AM

With luck I'll force myself to actually go out tomorrow, and buy something in town. So, any recommendations for metal stuff to buy?

Preferably new, or if not new, then something you reckon should be easily available in Virgin/HMV style stores; I've been singularly unsuccessful so far in finding any better shops around here. All I've really got in mind so far (as far as metal goes) is Primordial's new one, so any suggestions welcome.

ICB

03-04-2005, 09:42 AM

barzum's

Are you southern, by chance?

Deathcrush

03-04-2005, 03:09 PM

Are you southern, by chance?

:lol:

ICB

03-04-2005, 03:11 PM

Wow, Vital Remains is awesome.

Vitriolic Rage

03-04-2005, 04:33 PM

Even psychopathic pagans can have inner beauty. :)
What about Nihilistic misanthropes like myself?

:eek:

Oh, ok then.:upset:

Yesss, Nile, Dying Fetus and Necrophagist next friday.
Will you be going to the gig at Joseph's Well I've just mentioned Bartender?

Stoic

03-04-2005, 04:34 PM

do you guys like SOLEFALD?

Bartender

03-04-2005, 04:35 PM

Necrophagist aren't playing any more.

From http://www.necrophagist.de

"Due to health problems that will prevent me from performing on stage or leaving Stuttgart, NECROPHAGIST is unfortunately forced to cancel our upcoming tours with MORBID ANGEL and NILE as well as our own shows. The situation is dire enough that without cancellation of these dates the very existence of the band and my playing is threatened.

NECROPHAGIST and I were looking forward to bringing the Epitaph record to life for the first time, and not being able to do so is an enormous disappointment to us.

I am sorry to disappoint you, our amazing fans and supporters, and my fellow bandmates, who have been working intensely with an amazingly professional attitude and are eager to destroy the stage. I know this has been their big dream and a great opportunity, but the situation does not allow me to continue for now. I promise to make sure I will get back on track as soon as my health allows, because I owe this to our fans and my bandmates.

Muhammed Suicmez, March 2 2005"

:(

ninjamonkey

03-04-2005, 04:45 PM

Pretty much everything, even the edit.
Well, that's odd. Absolutely nothing was lame about it.
Dargon doesn't have AIM I do believe, because he is too tr00 to waste his time with it.

And rep is now gone, so it doesn't matter.
It wasn't about the rep, it was about the message I was sending him.

On a related note: YES! Rep is no longer a part of the forum! Thank goodness.

YES! The search is back!

Does anyone know what Muhammed's physical ailment is?

NP: Molested - Blod Draum album

Vitriolic Rage

03-04-2005, 04:46 PM

Necrophagist aren't playing any more.
:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(
I was really looking forward to seeing them play live.
Oh well, as long as Nile don't cancel out of the tour it's ok.

Bartender

03-04-2005, 04:47 PM

On a related note: YES! Rep is no longer a part of the forum! Thank goodness.

Actually, it is. Requirements for stars, and who can rep (and how much they give out, and everything) has just been changed. Not entirely sure what to yet.

Freezing Moon

03-04-2005, 05:00 PM

I'm really liking the Accellerator that someone posted a link to in the FG. Great stuff. That thread inspired me to go out and find a bunch more Technical Death.

Dancin' Man

03-04-2005, 05:54 PM

Cryptopsy - Cold Hate, Warm Blood = Best track ever. It is just so well done. The song writing is superb and although the vocals are not as good as they could be, they are at least above average. The jazziness just murderfies any arguments against metal and song writing ability.

superpeer

03-04-2005, 05:57 PM

True, that's a brilliant song.

Bartender, you could always check my RYM to see for high rated metal albums, if you're desperate.

Earache

03-04-2005, 06:05 PM

does any body hear listen to The Crown, i love there knew album crowned unholy, such a good album

ninjamonkey

03-04-2005, 06:26 PM

Actually, it is. Requirements for stars, and who can rep (and how much they give out, and everything) has just been changed. Not entirely sure what to yet.
Well, if no one knows what it was changed to, it's as good as gone. haha
Oh well.

NP: Unmoored - Cimmerian album

Cardboard Headgear

03-04-2005, 06:28 PM

do you guys like SOLEFALD?
Quite. I'd steal 12oz's avatar if I weren't so fond of my "Chuck Schuldiner Ring-esque distorted face of death" avatar.

Bartender

03-04-2005, 06:29 PM

Your avatar doesn't show up for me. Have you re-uploaded it since the site crash?

whatduffhuck7

03-04-2005, 06:30 PM

Well, if no one knows what it was changed to, it's as good as gone. haha
Oh well.

NP: Unmoored - Cimmerian album
unmoored's a good *** band

NP: children of bodom- silent scream

ninjamonkey

03-04-2005, 06:38 PM

Your avatar doesn't show up for me. Have you re-uploaded it since the site crash?
Yeah, I don't see it either.

Cardboard Headgear

03-04-2005, 11:52 PM

Ah nuts, well to me it's all distorted and it looks like one of those pictures from The Ring, you know, when someone would die all the pictures of them would get all weird. Cept mine's of ye olde Evil Chuck.

manuscriptreplica

03-05-2005, 02:22 AM

Superpeer:

you listed a link to a Phobophile piano tab, do you still have it? I finally got a piano in my room and I can't find it :(

craggyisland

03-05-2005, 03:48 AM

Since he hasn't posted it yet,

http://www.taborama.com/archive/tab.php?tid=77683&aid=1472&a=Cryptopsy&t=Phobophile&i=4

manuscriptreplica

03-05-2005, 04:00 AM

Since he hasn't posted it yet,

http://www.taborama.com/archive/tab.php?tid=77683&aid=1472&a=Cryptopsy&t=Phobophile&i=4

Excellent. Thanks a million :D

superpeer

03-05-2005, 06:42 AM

Thank my girlfriend, she tabbed it. :)

It's fun to play. :D

Squirrel

03-05-2005, 06:45 AM

I have a tab for the Phobophile solo if anyone wants.

/lame

jcs497

03-05-2005, 09:41 AM

Phobophile is the only Cryptopsy song that stands out to me....

I'm weird like that though

Dancin' Man

03-05-2005, 09:44 AM

Cryptopsy's new album better be full of standout tracks like Phobophile and Cold Hate, Warm Blood. They were capable of it but never did it before and now that Jon is gone I wonder if the song writing has suffered.

Bartender

03-05-2005, 09:45 AM

I thought most, if not all, of the writing was done before he left.

Dancin' Man

03-05-2005, 09:48 AM

In that case cool.

I was also looking to get Gorguts - Obscura. It sounds really interesting to me. Any recommendations for similar stuff?

EDIT: 8k posts. :thumb:

blackout

03-05-2005, 11:16 AM

I thought most, if not all, of the writing was done before he left.
I'm pretty sure you're right.

I have a clip of a gorguts song called Behave Through Mythos, what albums it from? Because thats really got me interested in them.

ninjamonkey

03-05-2005, 02:04 PM

NP: Deteriorot

Stoic

03-05-2005, 02:23 PM

-god, WINDIR are incredible, they bring tears to my eyes...is all viking black like this? What bands sound similar? This epic atmosphere and monumental riffs really touch me...

-I've also started reading the Silmarilion

-and I saw Marcin Urbas (SCEPTIC'S vocalist) on TV running for the Europian Indoor Athetics Championships!

NP Cruachan - Pagan

Vitriolic Rage

03-05-2005, 02:39 PM

Windir and Cruachan are \m/

Corporal Compendia

03-05-2005, 05:59 PM

I have a clip of a gorguts song called Behave Through Mythos, what albums it from? Because thats really got me interested in them.

From Wisdom To Hate. Great album... go buy it. It'll be worth your hard earned cash!

Face Melter

03-05-2005, 07:17 PM

Check out Sympathy (new band for your pleasure)
http://www.realmofdisease.com

MP3's
http://www.fear-dark.com/SAMPLE-The%20Shining%20Ones.mp3
http://www.fear-dark.com/SAMPLE-In%20Mine%20Own%20Image.mp3
http://www.fear-dark.com/SAMPLE-Surrounded%20by%20the%20Dead.mp3

Per Ardua Ad Astra

03-05-2005, 07:42 PM

god, WINDIR are incredible, they bring tears to my eyes...is all viking black like this? What bands sound similar? This epic atmosphere and monumental riffs really touch me...

Wintersun
Einherjer
Ensiferum
Finntroll
Ulver (To an extent in the old stuff)

Toozey

03-05-2005, 07:48 PM

Bathory
Enslaved

br3ad_man

03-06-2005, 12:50 AM

I'm going to check out Enslaved, everyone seems to love them.

Fast Fingers: That Gorguts album owns, enjoy it.

Yes, breadman can be exceedingly gay at times.

"Darkthrone is so scary!!! Boo Hooes! :'-("

haha :lol: it was Mayhem actually :p

meh, I thought people liked BTBAM in here. Are they untr00 because they have emo sounding parts or something?

Dancin' Man

03-06-2005, 01:13 AM

Grey Incision

03-06-2005, 01:36 AM

gg death heads thread, i quite like bloodbath

Freezing Moon

03-06-2005, 01:53 AM

I really like BTBAM. Enslaved are awesome. Isa is one of my favorite albums ever.

Any recommendations for albums similar to Obscura? I've got all the other Gorguts albums as well so those won't help as recommendations.

Isa is indeed awesome. Very, very good CD.

I haven't heard Obscura, but it's in the process of downloading from Bit Torrent.