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ninjamonkey
01-02-2005, 02:14 PM
out of all the bands he listed, you chose to make fun of SoaD? and then you make another useless post right after (CoB are c0ol dawgz!1)? Get out.
I was at a party last night. I brought my computer, and I requested Nile - Execration Text. It was played after some crappy rap song. I heard the opening of it, I was all like YES!!!

So I went to the dance area, and started headbanging. Within 10 seconds, a random mosh pit occurs. It was awesome. Too bad all you could hear of the song was the drums and the growling.

I also played Pakanajuhla by Moonsorrow. No mosh pit there, but lots of people looking confused or headbanging.

\m/(>_<)\m/
You requested a song off of your computer?

all death metal sounds exactly the same. the crowds at shows suck and no one in the band does anything, they just stand there and headbang
Your ignorance is laughter inducing. Get out.

lilpete86
01-02-2005, 02:17 PM
Theres a club near me that lets you hook your ipod up to the dj's computer and play any 3 songs you want, I may have to go and play people abit of death metal. Seems like a pretty cool idea.

Ihsahn
01-02-2005, 02:54 PM
In conversation with many fellow metal heads who've listened to death metal and black metal for years, I've found that without exception, every single one of them loves some kind of folk/industrial/electonica/drums&bass music. Personally, I am a huge fan of Death in June, Garmana, Puissance, Sol Invictus, Juno Reactor, Dead can Dance, and Der Blutharsche.

How about the rest of you?

Weeeelll, in addition to whatever jazz/classical I listen to, I love trance. Don't know any specific djs that I prefer, although DJ Tiesto comes to mind. My theory behind this is that if you listen closely to trance/drum'n'bass/hardcore/etc... the sound itself may be different, but some of the underlying aesthetic is very similar, especially between something minimalistic like trance and black metal.

*Jesus_is_my_homeboy_*
01-02-2005, 03:10 PM
Nah. I like slipknot, and that band isnt metal, but it'd be the closest to metal..

*Jesus_is_my_homeboy_*
01-02-2005, 03:13 PM
Im new, so be my friend! :chug:

Dark Hero
01-02-2005, 04:44 PM
If you have homeboys you can't be a friend...jk lol

Per Ardua Ad Astra
01-02-2005, 05:13 PM
Do you know any instrumental jazz/fusion groups?

Gordian Knot comes to mind as a more jazz/progressive group.
Anything involving Sean Malone may interest you.

Per Ardua Ad Astra
01-02-2005, 05:16 PM
Do you know any instrumental jazz/fusion groups?

Gordian Knot comes to mind as a more jazz/progressive group.
Anything involving Sean Malone may interest you.

sensitiveorgan00
01-02-2005, 05:38 PM
I've recently started listening to instrumental groups that have such influences. My latest discovery is Uthull. They dont play metal and dont have a guitarist (bass-drums-keyboard/piano) but I really like them. Do you know any instrumental jazz/fusion groups?


What jazz/fusion group isn't instrumental?
Check out Mahavishnu Orchestra - 'Birds of Fire'. Great band, and great album. Though, you might already be familar with them.

manuscriptreplica
01-02-2005, 05:54 PM
You also might like bands like Tower of Power, Weather Report, and Level 42 if you want jazz/fusion. For anyone who knows their bass, Jaco Pastorius played with Weather Report for a few years, and would put all metal bassists these days to shame

tunafish_scumbag
01-02-2005, 06:02 PM
Jaco Pastorius played with Weather Report for a few years, and would put all metal bassists these days to shame

Lies. Billy Sheehan is way better froma technique standpoint. Jaco was good, but he's over rated.

But anyway, I recently got into Atheist, and I wanted to know some other similar yet accessible(being able to get thier cd in stores would be awesome) bands.

Corporal Compendia
01-02-2005, 06:43 PM
^^ Ehh, Atheist were fairly one and alone in what they did, but there are similars or other bands that you would probably like out there.

If you don't know Cynic, get the album Focus.
And here's some others...
Martyr - Warp Zone
Pestilence - Testimony of the Ancients
Pestilence - Spheres

Uh, that's all I can think of off hand. I'll get back to you.

bassaholica2004
01-02-2005, 07:10 PM
Lies. Billy Sheehan is way better froma technique standpoint. Jaco was good, but he's over rated.

But anyway, I recently got into Atheist, and I wanted to know some other similar yet accessible(being able to get thier cd in stores would be awesome) bands.
Have you ever heard Portrait of Tracy? It might not sound like much, but the whole song is made of harmonics! Have you tried to play it? The man was a genious. Continuum is a cool song, its pretty easy and fun to listen to.

For Atheist-type music, I would check out Cynic. They're pretty similar I think.



Anyone heard of Mortuary Drape? They're a BM band, pretty strange. I like 'em though.
Also, I got the '92 promo from Graveland. Its really wierd. Its very disturbing, with the weird sounds and such, and the bad production adds to its gr1mness too. :p Its not as much music as it is more of an ambient type of thing. Its cool though, I'm gonna try to find more of the later stuff.

Oh yeah, anyone heard of the Austrailian band Nazxul? They surprised me, they were really good. I'm still waiting to hear Reverend Kriss Hades though. :angry:

manuscriptreplica
01-02-2005, 08:34 PM
Lies. Billy Sheehan is way better froma technique standpoint. Jaco was good, but he's over rated.

Yeah, because Billy Sheehan is such a well-known metal bassist

For Atheist stuff, check out Alarum - Eventuality


Nazxul are awesome, saw em live like last year or something. They had the corpse paint cranking and everything :smoke:

shadows_forbid
01-02-2005, 09:51 PM
is dark tranquillity more Progressive metal than death??? oh and could someone get some Immortal songs i know there black metal but i just want to hear them

LegionsofMarduk
01-02-2005, 09:55 PM
In response to Teminal...I like some folk music. I like a lot of non-metal music. I think I'm one of the few that actually loves Burzum's album Hlidskjalf.

About the tape trade-
Sorry I didn't get the e-mail out on Friday guys. I can't get my e-mail to work from home so it's going to have to wait until I got back to work on Tuesday.

ninjamonkey
01-02-2005, 10:48 PM
For Atheist stuff, check out Alarum - Eventuality
That's what I was going to say.
Jaco Pastorius played with Weather Report for a few years, and would put all metal bassists these days to shame
Is that supposed to be surprising? (serious question) I never thought of metal as being known for its extremely technical bass work.
Nah. I like slipknot, and that band isnt metal, but it'd be the closest to metal..
Wow, your one of the first people I've seen who doesn't call slipknot death metal.

CaptainWaits
01-02-2005, 10:50 PM
^^I don't

manuscriptreplica
01-02-2005, 11:46 PM
Is that supposed to be surprising? (serious question) I never thought of metal as being known for its extremely technical bass work.


Well, you haven't tried playing Cryptopsy - Phobophile on bass have you :p It is extremely demanding and requires a sh itload of stamina to play, just like most technical death songs (that is, if the bassist isn't using a pick). I mainly listen to death metal for the bass work, so yeah. Jaco's technique and precision would rank him above such high quality metal bassists like Steve Digiorgio and Sean Malone, I can send you some of his stuff if you are interested

bassaholica2004
01-02-2005, 11:51 PM
Well, you haven't tried playing Cryptopsy - Phobophile on bass have you :p It is extremely demanding and requires a sh itload of stamina to play, just like most technical death songs (that is, if the bassist isn't using a pick). I mainly listen to death metal for the bass work, so yeah. Jaco's technique and precision would rank him above such high quality metal bassists like Steve Digiorgio and Sean Malone, I can send you some of his stuff if you are interested
I try to incorporate some Jaco influences, and also some Funk influences, into my band's music. I play sorta lead bass, as I play most of the fills and most interesting and complex parts in our songs. My guitarist is very, very good, and plays some amazing solos, but he lets me handle the technicality in our songs. :cool:

I've heard some nice basswork in a few DM bands, though. Cryptopsy, Demilich, and Gorguts come to mind. 1349 actually has a good bassist; he expands upon the roots and stuff.

manuscriptreplica
01-03-2005, 12:04 AM
Coypu's site is really excellent for finding out good bassists in metal. Death have always had incredible bassists, anything with Malone in it, Atheist, Alarum, Coroner, Cryptopsy, Dream Theater, Gorguts (though I'm not sure if he uses his fingers or not) Necrophagist, Pestilence, Spastic Ink, Spiral Architect, and Watchtower are just some off the top of my head that have amazing bassists

bassaholica2004
01-03-2005, 12:12 AM
Yeah, Spiral Architect is insane. I think the guy from Gorguts plays fingerstyle. It sounds like it anyway. Atheist and Cynic have great bassists too. Do you have a link to the site? Sounds interesting.

manuscriptreplica
01-03-2005, 12:16 AM
http://medieteknik.bth.se/joba01/ - There's about 7 pages of bassists, and a few of them jazz guys (Sheehan, Pastorius etc)

The guy who played on Obscura uses fingers, I'm not sure about Considered Dead and the Erosion of Sanity though

all_mighty_guitar_player_666
01-03-2005, 12:18 AM
cannibal corpse
six feet under
hypocrisy
opeth
bloodbath
enthroned
morbid angel
capharnaum
arch enemy
black dahlia murder
nevermore
suffocation
immortal
naglfar
molevent creation
kataklysm
gorgoroth
dimmu borgir
DEATH R.I.P Chuck

bassaholica2004
01-03-2005, 12:21 AM
http://medieteknik.bth.se/joba01/ - There's about 7 pages of bassists, and a few of them jazz guys (Sheehan, Pastorius etc)

The guy who played on Obscura uses fingers, I'm not sure about Considered Dead and the Erosion of Sanity though
Cool, thanks.

bassaholica2004
01-03-2005, 12:34 AM
One of the thing that made him so great was the fact that he used 5 fingers to pick, using the fifth as a muting device giving him great control.
Whoa, thats a cool technique. This is from Roger Patterson of Atheist.

His greatest strength is the unique technique he uses to play chords on bass, he uses his thumb to bang on the 3 strings he want to use in the chord creating a very massive and rich sound. This allows him to play in a less traditional way giving his sound a unique character. He is also an overall amazing bass player who can play very technical material such as strange timing and fast techno riffing.
Yeah, he's the guy from Gorguts. He uses fingerstyle (:thumb: ). I gotta try this, slapping a chord. This is a cool site, thanks again.

manuscriptreplica
01-03-2005, 01:04 AM
Did you check out Lars Norberg's bass solo from Insect (if you haven't already heard it)? Incredible

bassaholica2004
01-03-2005, 01:12 AM
Did you check out Lars Norberg's bass solo from Insect (if you haven't already heard it)? Incredible
God damn! That was awesome, how he muted parts of it, and it was ****ing fast! I wish I could see him play it.

bassaholica2004
01-03-2005, 02:41 AM
Anyone heard Neuraxis- Truth Beyond yet? I recommend you do if you haven't.

Cardboard Headgear
01-03-2005, 03:26 AM
God damn! That was awesome, how he muted parts of it, and it was ****ing fast! I wish I could see him play it.
And you want to know the truly awesome thing? That's not a solo, it's just the bassline to the verse.

[kinda irrelevant] Coypu mentioned (quite a while ago) that Lars himself was going to tab out Insect. Anyone know what happened to that? Also reminds me, I need to send Coypu revisions for his tab of Satya, some bits are off. [/kinda irrelevant]

Who needs a community thread? Or a bass forum for that matter! We've got out own right here!
:chug:

philiop
01-03-2005, 03:56 AM
is anyone in here into brutal death like dying fetus, skinless and suffocation?

manuscriptreplica
01-03-2005, 04:33 AM
And you want to know the truly awesome thing? That's not a solo, it's just the bassline to the verse.


Yeah, but the harmonics fill is so awesome!!! :cool:

Cardboard Headgear
01-03-2005, 04:54 AM
is anyone in here into brutal death like dying fetus, skinless and suffocation?

no it all sounds the same and they just sing about 'rawr rawr kill kill kill raawwwr' and you can't even understand what they're saying! dying fetus is a gross name too. if you listen to death metal youre a satanist like marilyn mansen.




Its freakin 3 in the morning, I'm aloud to be weird.

Ve Das
01-03-2005, 06:41 AM
In conversation with many fellow metal heads who've listened to death metal and black metal for years, I've found that without exception, every single one of them loves some kind of folk/industrial/electonica/drums&bass music. Personally, I am a huge fan of Death in June, Garmana, Puissance, Sol Invictus, Juno Reactor, Dead can Dance, and Der Blutharsche.

How about the rest of you?

Mainly I listen to irish,spanish and retro-medieval folk music,but I´m also a great lover of eastern european/asian folk music.Thing is,it´s pretty dämn hard to find around here.Electronica,well,off and on,don´t really have any favorite bands,although Kraftwerk gets frequent listens from me.

Bartender
01-03-2005, 11:05 AM
About the tape trade-
Sorry I didn't get the e-mail out on Friday guys. I can't get my e-mail to work from home so it's going to have to wait until I got back to work on Tuesday.

Just realised, the email address that you'll have for me will be out of date by now. Could you send to me at eruantien@gmail.com, when you get around to it?

the_sinner
01-03-2005, 12:28 PM
is anyone in here into brutal death like dying fetus, skinless and suffocation?


the only metal you need to listen to is the four horsemen of the apocalypse:
Anthrax
Megadeth
Metallica
Slayer

Death metal just sucks, the guitarists in death metal bands rarely have any skill.

LegionsofMarduk
01-03-2005, 01:33 PM
the only metal you need to listen to is the four horsemen of the apocalypse:
Anthrax
Megadeth
Metallica
Slayer

Death metal just sucks, the guitarists in death metal bands rarely have any skill.

You know...posts like these are barely even worth responding to anymore. **** off.

bassaholica2004
01-03-2005, 01:37 PM
the only metal you need to listen to is the four horsemen of the apocalypse:
Anthrax
Megadeth
Metallica
Slayer

Death metal just sucks, the guitarists in death metal bands rarely have any skill.
The "Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse" bored me to death. Now shut the **** up and get out. :)

ninjamonkey
01-03-2005, 01:59 PM
^^I don't
and do you like slipknot?
Well, you haven't tried playing Cryptopsy - Phobophile on bass have you :p It is extremely demanding and requires a sh itload of stamina to play, just like most technical death songs (that is, if the bassist isn't using a pick). I mainly listen to death metal for the bass work, so yeah. Jaco's technique and precision would rank him above such high quality metal bassists like Steve Digiorgio and Sean Malone, I can send you some of his stuff if you are interested
Well, yeah of course there are good bassist in metal, I just thougth your comparison was kinda weird because Jaco doesn't play metal.
the only metal you need to listen to is the four horsemen of the apocalypse:
Anthrax
Megadeth
Metallica
Slayer

Death metal just sucks, the guitarists in death metal bands rarely have any skill.
Your ignorance is laughter inducing. Get out, faggot.

bassaholica2004
01-03-2005, 02:37 PM
If you guys like Doom metal, I highly suggest getting Evoken's Embrace the Emptiness if you haven't already. This is without a doubt the best Doom I've heard yet. Very haunting and crushingly heavy.

LeperAffinity
01-03-2005, 02:48 PM
Can anyone recommend me some brutal/technical death along the lines of Spawn of Possession, Red Harvest, Cryptopsy, or Blood Red Throne?

Stoic
01-03-2005, 03:07 PM
Gordian Knot comes to mind as a more jazz/progressive group. Anything involving Sean Malone may interest you.

Yup, already checked!

What jazz/fusion group isn't instrumental?

...makes sense!

Check out Mahavishnu Orchestra - 'Birds of Fire'. Great band, and great album. Though, you might already be familar with them.

Honestly, I've just found out about them (on progarchives.com). God, I'm so ignorant when it comes to non metal stuff! :(

You also might like bands like Tower of Power, Weather Report, and Level 42 if you want jazz/fusion.

Thanks a lot :)

It's a good opportunity to broaden my horizons...

back to metal, do you guys know any groups (preferably more underground ones) in the vein of Watchtower, Spastic Ink, Spiral Architect or Andromeda etc?

Cardboard Headgear
01-03-2005, 03:09 PM
Potentially huge (and awesome) news:

Oyvind has left Arcturus and none other than Vortex will be singing on the next album. Still a rumor at this point, but a very strong one which seems to have some things going for it. For instance, on the Borknagar forum Asgeir (who's in Spiral Architect with Oyvind) didn't shoot it down, which seems to suggest he's just keeping quiet about it so the band themselves can say it.

Meh, it could turn out to be just a rumour, but I'm getting the feeling it's not!

Stoic
01-03-2005, 03:14 PM
Can anyone recommend me some brutal/technical death along the lines of Spawn of Possession, Red Harvest, Cryptopsy, or Blood Red Throne?

Mithras, Theory in Practice, Necrophagist, Sinners Bleed, Lykathea Aflame (ok, Lykathé then), Psycroptic etc. These are some common suggestions. Apart from gods Psycroptic and maybe TIP not really my cup of tea but if you like this style they are pretty good bands

Ihsahn
01-03-2005, 04:51 PM
If you guys like Doom metal, I highly suggest getting Evoken's Embrace the Emptiness if you haven't already. This is without a doubt the best Doom I've heard yet. Very haunting and crushingly heavy.


If you like Evoken, check out their Quietus album if you haven't already. Absolutely brilliant.

Per Ardua Ad Astra
01-03-2005, 05:12 PM
Oyvind has left Arcturus and none other than Vortex will be singing on the next album. Still a rumor at this point, but a very strong one which seems to have some things going for it. For instance, on the Borknagar forum Asgeir (who's in Spiral Architect with Oyvind) didn't shoot it down, which seems to suggest he's just keeping quiet about it so the band themselves can say it.

I've heard this too, apparently it's because Oyvind is moving to Sweden and the band is located in Norway. It's already been confirmed that Vortex will be singing with them at the gig in London.

EDIT: Yep, after a quick check of the Arcturus message boards all i can say is
Oyvind has left Arcturus!
But Simen hasn't been confirmed as a permanent vocalist.

Bartender
01-03-2005, 05:18 PM
back to metal, do you guys know any groups (preferably more underground ones) in the vein of Watchtower, Spastic Ink, Spiral Architect or Andromeda etc?

Canvas Solaris and Behold.. the Arctopus both spring to mind. There's reviews of both of them in the CD Reviews forum, but I don't have time to fetch links for you right now.

CaptainWaits
01-03-2005, 06:43 PM
Can anyone recommend me some brutal/technical death along the lines of Spawn of Possession, Red Harvest, Cryptopsy, or Blood Red Throne?


Suffocation and Kataklysm on abit lighter terms

ninjamonkey
01-03-2005, 07:19 PM
Since when has Red Harvest been tech/brutal death, let alone death.

Dark Hero
01-03-2005, 07:53 PM
Check out this thread, it's funny.

http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=285748

"***TRUE*** Black metal fans only" lol

Dark Hero
01-03-2005, 07:54 PM
Nevermind, it got closed, haha.

CaptainWaits
01-03-2005, 08:03 PM
^^Yeh I saw that just a while ago, I viewed it, but never wasted a post on it

Cardboard Headgear
01-03-2005, 08:14 PM
Hey Per, I think we're the only ones who care since 12oz and bobo aren't around. I just found it humorous how we're freaking out about it and everyone's just having a conversation around us, trying to ignore the spastic guys over in the corner talking about Arcturus. :lol:

BoboTheRagingHobo
01-03-2005, 08:33 PM
Hey Per, I think we're the only ones who care since 12oz and bobo aren't around. I just found it humorous how we're freaking out about it and everyone's just having a conversation around us, trying to ignore the spastic guys over in the corner talking about Arcturus. :lol:


Hey, I am here...but was dling music off that mp3 site. Was getting me self some Solefald. :cool:

But ya, would be cool to see Vortex back in the band, sicne I find him to have an incredible voice and he would be perfect fit with them...

I want them to tour the US, thats all I care about. :p

manuscriptreplica
01-03-2005, 10:25 PM
I want Garm to like metal again.

And why didn't anyone want Oyvind in the band?

Cardboard Headgear
01-03-2005, 10:50 PM
Because they're stupid and don't like his voice. I'd much rather have Vortex or Garm, but Oyvind has a good voice too.

bassaholica2004
01-03-2005, 11:52 PM
If you like Evoken, check out their Quietus album if you haven't already. Absolutely brilliant.
How is it compared to Embrace the Emptiness? Also, what are some other bands like Evoken? I've heard Skepticism, and they're pretty good.

NJMetalMeister
01-04-2005, 12:41 AM
Hey Per, I think we're the only ones who care since 12oz and bobo aren't around. I just found it humorous how we're freaking out about it and everyone's just having a conversation around us, trying to ignore the spastic guys over in the corner talking about Arcturus. :lol:

oh im around, im just 6 hours ahead now being back in germany. I really dont see Vortex being permanent, due to his involvment with dimmu.

I too want Garm to like metal again, and to also not have a fear of playing live.

manuscriptreplica
01-04-2005, 01:48 AM
Afraid of playing live? That's news to me

And what is Garm doing now? Is he just focusing on Ulver, or has he got any other side projects?

NJMetalMeister
01-04-2005, 05:03 AM
Well okay he isnt afraid of playing live per say, but the reason arcturus didnt tour much was mostly that garm just doesnt like it much. As far as i know garm is solely focusing on Ulver now.

Ve Das
01-04-2005, 10:15 AM
Good for him if that means even greater improvement in Ulver :)
I don´t know if I´ve mentioned it before,but I´m still hoping Samael will get a grip and release a new album...

Esoteric Whisper
01-04-2005, 10:41 AM
I just nicked a couple of Ulver albums off my mate, as I'm not a BM fan I was pleased to hear the progression they made and the acoustic folk work is intresting toot.

DM wise I like:

Cynic
Nile
Martyr
Crytopsy
Soilent Green
Arch Enemy
and most metal with female vox

Any good DM bands in the vein of these artists you'd recommend?

lilpete86
01-04-2005, 11:32 AM
Mithras

*beats toozey*

Per Ardua Ad Astra
01-04-2005, 02:50 PM
Since when has Red Harvest been tech/brutal death, let alone death.

Since never, but they are still quite good.

Hey Per, I think we're the only ones who care since 12oz and bobo aren't around. I just found it humorous how we're freaking out about it and everyone's just having a conversation around us, trying to ignore the spastic guys over in the corner talking about Arcturus.

:lol:

And why didn't anyone want Oyvind in the band?

Word is he moved to Sweden, and since Arcturus is located in Norway that wouldn't quite work.

I don't believe Garm has done any side projects, though he has done some guest appearances with The Gathering and such.
I love the stuff that Ulver has been putting out lately, Perdition City owns.

Ihsahn
01-04-2005, 02:51 PM
How is it compared to Embrace the Emptiness? Also, what are some other bands like Evoken? I've heard Skepticism, and they're pretty good.


Both albums are awesome. They're atmospheric as hell, really heavy and really soothing at the same time. Skepticism is also quite good, and you should check out Thergothon, Esoteric, November's Doom and possibly Morgion as well.

Ve Das
01-04-2005, 02:51 PM
^:lol:

Atheist
Pestilence
Obituary
Abhorrence
7th Nemesis
Torturer
Massacra
Nihilist
Nocturnus
Vomitory
Suffocation
Immolation

Have fun :)

LordDargon
01-04-2005, 03:02 PM
Well okay he isnt afraid of playing live per say, but the reason arcturus didnt tour much was mostly that garm just doesnt like it much. As far as i know garm is solely focusing on Ulver now.
Aren't Ulver doing electronica now or something?

EDIT: And Ve Das, what was that list about? I don't think any of those were doom. Good work mentioning Torturer though \m/

Per Ardua Ad Astra
01-04-2005, 03:28 PM
Aren't Ulver doing electronica now or something?

Yep, they have been ever since they released 'William Blakes marriage of Heaven and Hell.'

Toozey
01-04-2005, 03:42 PM
Ulver win, the Black Metal stuff is great but you HAVE to hear the electronic stuff, its immense.

Bartender
01-04-2005, 04:06 PM
Yep, they have been ever since they released 'William Blakes marriage of Heaven and Hell.'

I'd imagine the cover art/booklet was good for that. I like Blake.

Anyone know if Dawn of Relic are any good?

Ve Das
01-04-2005, 04:29 PM
Aren't Ulver doing electronica now or something?

EDIT: And Ve Das, what was that list about? I don't think any of those were doom. Good work mentioning Torturer though \m/

Seems I clicked the reply button seconds after two other people.My post belongs behind lil petes...

Ihsahn
01-04-2005, 04:49 PM
I don't believe Garm has done any side projects, though he has done some guest appearances with The Gathering and such.
I love the stuff that Ulver has been putting out lately, Perdition City owns.

Lyckantropen Themes is probably my favourite newer album Ulver has done. It's just really soothing and atmospheric (in case you can't tell, atmosphere is really important for me ;) ) and is just overall great chillin' music.

Esoteric Whisper
01-04-2005, 05:01 PM
Lyckantropen Themes is probably my favourite newer album Ulver has done. It's just really soothing and atmospheric (in case you can't tell, atmosphere is really important for me ;) ) and is just overall great chillin' music.

I'd agree it's great chillin' music, the genre change was quite a shock.
I was wondering if you knew what Lyckantropen meant?
It's only that it looks/sounds like Lycanthrope, which means werewolf and that would be a fitting name to a strange band.

Per Ardua Ad Astra
01-04-2005, 05:43 PM
Lyckantropen is really well done, it's basically just one track with some 'climaxes' if you want to call them that. I usually listen to it while i read or do homework or something.

NJMetalMeister
01-04-2005, 06:12 PM
I'd imagine the cover art/booklet was good for that. I like Blake.

Anyone know if Dawn of Relic are any good?

Dawn of Relic are like the best okay band ever. Nothing they have is truly amazing, nor is it bad by anymeans. The disc is worth a spin once in a while, but nothing worthy of regular rotational play. perhaps after a couple more releases they will pick things up a bit.

Bartender
01-04-2005, 09:09 PM
I'm surprised this hasn't been posted yet. Apologies if it has, but I'm sure I've not seen it. I know there's at least one Nasum fan here.


OFFICIAL STATEMENT: NASUM VOCALIST MIESZKO TALARCZYK MISSING IN THAILAND

It's very hard for us to make this announcement, but since rumours are already out on the Internet we must make an official statement: Mieszko Talarczyk is missing in Thailand.

Mieszko and his girlfriend went to Thailand to spend the holidays. They left a few days before Christmas and were scheduled to return right after New Years Eve.

They were staying in a bungalow at Phi Phi Island and when the big wave came and swept the bungalow away the two were seperated. Mieszko's girlfriend is being reported hospitalized "badly injured" but she has been in contact with among others Mieszko's sister who has been posting an "I'm looking for..." at the Phuket Disaster Forum.

This is everything we know right now. Since we are all shocked by this surreal situation we strongly advice fans of Nasum to respect the anxiety we and the Talarczyk and Thorén families feel at this time, and NOT post questions by email or in the guestbook at nasum.com. We will post all sorts of news on the website, but again, please respect our wish in this uneasy time.

There's been an update since then to say that the girlfriend is injured but stable, and Talarczyk is still missing.

Cardboard Headgear
01-04-2005, 09:19 PM
^^ There was a thread devoted to that bit of a news a little while ago. Must be quite a punch in the face for Jondur, who's said time and again that Nasum's the only grind band still around that does it for him anymore.

all_mighty_guitar_player_666
01-04-2005, 09:26 PM
is anyone in here into brutal death like dying fetus, skinless and suffocation?
i listen to suffocation and dying fetus, don't mind these people most but not all are trailerpark trash metal heads who listen to crap like metallica. forum is called any other DEATH heads not metallica fags

Cardboard Headgear
01-05-2005, 01:22 AM
i listen to suffocation and dying fetus, don't mind these people most but not all are trailerpark trash metal heads who listen to crap like metallica. forum is called any other DEATH heads not metallica fags
i'm not a trash metal fag, i listen to slipknot there the kings of death metalh

Jondur
01-05-2005, 03:26 AM
I'm surprised this hasn't been posted yet. Apologies if it has, but I'm sure I've not seen it. I know there's at least one Nasum fan here.



There's been an update since then to say that the girlfriend is injured but stable, and Talarczyk is still missing.

F*ck! Dunno how I missed this. That's rubbish - a great vocalist and a good producer too.

beatyourheartout
01-05-2005, 04:01 AM
Im not.. BUT im bored so i will fill this is any way. i like some stuuf like that such as:

Pantera
Slayer
Vision Of Disorder
System Of A Down
SlipKnot

That is the HEAVY **** that i like but i like most Heavy Rock songs like:

Linkin Park
Rage Against the Machine
RHCP

etc. you now what i mean :p

none of them are at all heavy... i mean rhcp, linkin park, slipknot... god no... :confused:

LegionsofMarduk
01-05-2005, 06:25 AM
none of them are at all heavy... i mean rhcp, linkin park, slipknot... god no... :confused:

Don't respond to posts that are 2 years old. What is so hard for people to grasp about that concept?

ninjamonkey
01-05-2005, 01:41 PM
i listen to suffocation and dying fetus, don't mind these people most but not all are trailerpark trash metal heads who listen to crap like metallica. forum is called any other DEATH heads not metallica fags
wtf are you talking about.

Stoic
01-05-2005, 02:57 PM
There's been an update since then to say that the girlfriend is injured but stable, and Talarczyk is still missing.

A lot of swedish people have been killed or are missing. There are a lot of swedish groups around. I expected such a thing and checked the metal news everyday...Well he's the unlucky one I guess... :upset:

LegionsofMarduk
01-05-2005, 03:16 PM
Did you guys get my e-mail about the trades? I sent it out yesterday morning.

Per Ardua Ad Astra
01-05-2005, 03:32 PM
I got mine, i also sent an e-mail to Jondur but i'm still waiting for my response.

lilpete86
01-05-2005, 03:44 PM
I got your e-mail, me and cardboard headgear have mostly sorted ours.

Stoic
01-05-2005, 03:45 PM
Both me and Bartender got it. I've actually started asking him details concerning the process...hope he wont be annoyed by my newbie-ish attitude :P

Stoic
01-05-2005, 04:10 PM
I'm listening to some ENSLAVED samples...These guys are GOOD!

Ihsahn
01-05-2005, 04:31 PM
Got it, and just responded.

Silenius
01-05-2005, 06:40 PM
I'm listening to some ENSLAVED samples...These guys are GOOD!
I just got their split with Emperor and Below the Lights, both are excellent. :thumb:

LegionsofMarduk
01-05-2005, 06:50 PM
Ok good. I just wanted to make sure it went out because I'd had some problems sending stuff outside of my work before.

Bartender
01-05-2005, 06:51 PM
Both me and Bartender got it. I've actually started asking him details concerning the process...hope he wont be annoyed by my newbie-ish attitude :P

It's not a problem. You seem to think the whole thing's a lot more complicated than it is though :)

CaptainWaits
01-05-2005, 07:36 PM
I'm listening to some ENSLAVED samples...These guys are GOOD!


Yes Enslaved are good :thumb:

NJMetalMeister
01-05-2005, 09:37 PM
I'm listening to some ENSLAVED samples...These guys are GOOD!

That is the understatement of the year, and the year just started!

Also, this is my "its 4:30 AM and i am having a bad case of insomnia" post

all_mighty_guitar_player_666
01-05-2005, 09:42 PM
i'm not a trash metal fag, i listen to slipknot there the kings of death metalh
i didn't call you a trash metal metal fag i didn't even mention your name besides i like your posts and i don't have anything against you so i don't know how you thought i meant you

VLAP_THE_IMPALER
01-05-2005, 09:59 PM
well..mr me likes the bands.... cannibal corpse,gore rotted, morbid angel and malevolent creation
oh yeah

Zemutt
01-05-2005, 10:43 PM
I've been listening to mainly these bands

Dark Tranquillity
At the Gates
Children of Bodom
Arch Enemy
In Flames (everything but their two last albums, i don't really dig those)
Kalmah
Black Dahlia Murder

... I'm currently looking into more bands, it takes time. There are litterally thousands of death metal bands I want to check out.
This website is one of the greatest I've ever stumbled upon.
http://www.metal-archives.com/index.php

bassaholica2004
01-05-2005, 11:00 PM
Well, I got some Nazi metal for ya'll. :D I recently upgraded my tr00 and kvlt status by getting the Fullmoon demo United Aryan Evil. This thing's production is worse than taking the worst Darkthrone album, dubbing it, and playing it through water. It is, however, pretty good, and worth a listen IMO. I dunno if it deserves "Best Demo Ever Written" as the folks on M-A say, but I think its pretty good. If you don't already have it, or can find it on Soulseek, definetely give it a listen. :thumb:

BoboTheRagingHobo
01-05-2005, 11:05 PM
Is it worse then Mayhems Pure ****ing Armageddon?

Terminal Spirit
01-05-2005, 11:54 PM
Well, I got some Nazi metal for ya'll. :D I recently upgraded my tr00 and kvlt status by getting the Fullmoon demo United Aryan Evil. This thing's production is worse than taking the worst Darkthrone album, dubbing it, and playing it through water. It is, however, pretty good, and worth a listen IMO. I dunno if it deserves "Best Demo Ever Written" as the folks on M-A say, but I think its pretty good. If you don't already have it, or can find it on Soulseek, definetely give it a listen. :thumb:

The production isn't that bad. If I had a vinyl player, I would purchase the re-edition, but I have money for neither.

bassaholica2004
01-06-2005, 12:25 AM
The production isn't that bad. If I had a vinyl player, I would purchase the re-edition, but I have money for neither.
OK so maybe I exaggerated a bit, but still its pretty bad. What did you think of the demo?

Is it worse then Mayhems Pure ****ing Armageddon?
Eh, its different. PFA sounds like its live, while the Fullmoon demo sounds recorded, but bad quality. I would say that is worse than PFA though.

Cardboard Headgear
01-06-2005, 01:16 AM
i didn't call you a trash metal metal fag i didn't even mention your name besides i like your posts and i don't have anything against you so i don't know how you thought i meant you
Just messing with you dude. :thumb:

Terminal Spirit
01-06-2005, 01:17 AM
OK so maybe I exaggerated a bit, but still its pretty bad. What did you think of the demo?


Eh, its different. PFA sounds like its live, while the Fullmoon demo sounds recorded, but bad quality. I would say that is worse than PFA though.

I think it is a great album, especially considering that it was a demo. Waaay better than Selbstmord, and even better than Ohtar, who I like considerably. It's not Thousand Swords, or In Flames of Purification, but still a great release. I wish they'd actually print it in CD version, and not limit it to 488 copies or something similarly stupid. ****ing Spear of Longinus...

bassaholica2004
01-06-2005, 01:23 AM
I think it is a great album, especially considering that it was a demo. Waaay better than Selbstmord, and even better than Ohtar, who I like considerably. It's not Thousand Swords, or In Flames of Purification, but still a great release. I wish they'd actually print it in CD version, and not limit it to 488 copies or something similarly stupid. ****ing Spear of Longinus...
I haven't heard Thousand Swords yet, but I have heard some of Carpathian Wolves and the '92 promo. Should I get Thousand Swords?

SicKnotter
01-06-2005, 01:29 AM
Serious Death Metal Head here [i loves it]

Listens to:
Otep
Lamb Of God
Dying Fetus
Napalm Death
Unanimated [i think its black]
cannibal Corpse
Pyre
Cephalic Carnage
Dimmu Borgre
Cryptopsy
Thorazine [if youve heard of that]
and lastly Fear Factory [old school] :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :

ArandomBassist
01-06-2005, 01:32 AM
i've admired the "any other death heads..." thread for a while and im now gonna become a regular poster in it....

so yeah, ive been listening to a lot of black metal lately and on that note have there been any updates on the satyricon rape situation? i want steiner to be free and finish the spiral architect album that i heard was in the making

Terminal Spirit
01-06-2005, 01:35 AM
I haven't heard Thousand Swords yet, but I have heard some of Carpathian Wolves and the '92 promo. Should I get Thousand Swords?

:amaze: For the first time ever this emoticon has been useful.

Yes, get Thousand Swords, as well as Creed of Iron while you're at it. Not all distros have Dawn of Iron Blades in yet, but it's definately a great release if you can find it.

albinobuttcheeks
01-06-2005, 01:37 AM
Check out SLEEP TERROR. its a local band from around me, theyre guitarist Luke filled in for VIle on the last cannibal corpse,exhumed/vile tour last year. I get to watch him live this saturday. he is such an amzing guitarist. www.myspace.com/sleepterror is theyre only site right now

bassaholica2004
01-06-2005, 01:44 AM
:amaze: For the first time ever this emoticon has been useful.

Yes, get Thousand Swords, as well as Creed of Iron while you're at it. Not all distros have Dawn of Iron Blades in yet, but it's definately a great release if you can find it.
:lol: Cool thanks. Don't you think its weird how the NSBM scene has some of the best BM around? I mean, its weird to me how people so hateful can make such good music. Maybe its just me. :confused:

ArandomBassist
01-06-2005, 01:52 AM
well most black metal has some discriminatory belief, even if its just against christians and no one else... so they would be hateful, but black metal is raw and hateful music so if they are hateful they make better hateful music?

EDIT: thanks for ruining my smart soundingness headgear

SicKnotter
01-06-2005, 01:53 AM
Check out SLEEP TERROR. its a local band from around me, theyre guitarist Luke filled in for VIle on the last cannibal corpse,exhumed/vile tour last year. I get to watch him live this saturday. he is such an amzing guitarist. www.myspace.com/sleepterror is theyre only site right now


wow i like it!!! its not bad...kinda...yes...its got a uniqueness to itsself...loves it!!! nice...now if i can give a sample of Pyre :evil: :evil:

bassaholica2004
01-06-2005, 01:54 AM
well most black metal has some racist belief, even if its just against christians and no one else... so they would be hateful, but black metal is raw and hateful music so if they are hateful they make better hateful music?
Yeah, I guess. But most BM isn't hateful toward everyone that isn't Aryan, and the bands that are seem to make the most atmospheric and best BM out there. Just seems a bit odd to me.

Cardboard Headgear
01-06-2005, 02:08 AM
well most black metal has some racist belief, even if its just against christians and no one else
Christian isn't a race.

have there been any updates on the satyricon rape situation? i want steiner to be free and finish the spiral architect album that i heard was in the making
Asgier said they're on their way back to Norway, so I guess they didn't do it.

Toozey
01-06-2005, 02:08 AM
It's true.

Terminal Spirit
01-06-2005, 03:00 AM
:lol: Cool thanks. Don't you think its weird how the NSBM scene has some of the best BM around? I mean, its weird to me how people so hateful can make such good music. Maybe its just me. :confused:

Well, the thing is that most NSBM bands aren't really that hateful, or even overtly racist. Sure, there are definately bands like Wulfhere and Xenophobia who hate everyone that is not white, but most NSBM bands and most NSBM supporters are more of the white pridge and heritage mindset. For instance, you'll won't see any mention of any hating or killing other races in the music of bands like Graveland, Nokturnal Mortum, Astrofaes, Sunwheel, Sigrblot, Absurd, Spear of Longinus, Veles, Wotanorden, or Akitsa. The National Socialist part of NSBM is often applied to bands whose beliefs aren't exactly NS.

LordDargon
01-06-2005, 10:19 AM
I've been listening to mainly these bands

Dark Tranquillity
At the Gates
Children of Bodom
Arch Enemy
In Flames (everything but their two last albums, i don't really dig those)
Kalmah
Black Dahlia Murder

... I'm currently looking into more bands, it takes time. There are litterally thousands of death metal bands I want to check out.
This website is one of the greatest I've ever stumbled upon.
http://www.metal-archives.com/index.php
HOLEY CRAP MAN THAT SYTE IS AWSUM HOW DID U EVAR FIND IT????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111

PS CHIDLREN OF BODEM NAD KALMAH R THE BEST DETH METAL THEY R SO HEVY

Stoic
01-06-2005, 10:52 AM
Check out SLEEP TERROR. its a local band from around me, theyre guitarist Luke filled in for VIle on the last cannibal corpse,exhumed/vile tour last year. I get to watch him live this saturday. he is such an amzing guitarist. www.myspace.com/sleepterror is theyre only site right now

I first found out about them here somewhere I think

Corporal Compendia
01-06-2005, 01:40 PM
HOLEY CRAP MAN THAT SYTE IS AWSUM HOW DID U EVAR FIND IT????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111

PS CHIDLREN OF BODEM NAD KALMAH R THE BEST DETH METAL THEY R SO HEVY

Ahh leave him alone Dargon. I bet not even a year ago you found out about bands like CoB and Kalmah, then did your "Holy ****! This is the best band ever!" thing. Then a week later never mention the band again, cause you've found a newer, better band to do that for.

Ve Das
01-06-2005, 01:45 PM
I never did that for CoB.I was like "Yeah, this is cool.OK,now put my fückin´Demigod album back in"

Vitriolic Rage
01-06-2005, 02:46 PM
:lol: Cool thanks. Don't you think its weird how the NSBM scene has some of the best BM around? I mean, its weird to me how people so hateful can make such good music. Maybe its just me. :confused:
Some NSBM is quite good, you're right.
Thunderbolt, for example.
I've heard NSDM as well: Infester, the vocalist has one of the most brutal growls I've heard.

bassaholica2004
01-06-2005, 03:31 PM
Well, the thing is that most NSBM bands aren't really that hateful, or even overtly racist. Sure, there are definately bands like Wulfhere and Xenophobia who hate everyone that is not white, but most NSBM bands and most NSBM supporters are more of the white pridge and heritage mindset. For instance, you'll won't see any mention of any hating or killing other races in the music of bands like Graveland, Nokturnal Mortum, Astrofaes, Sunwheel, Sigrblot, Absurd, Spear of Longinus, Veles, Wotanorden, or Akitsa. The National Socialist part of NSBM is often applied to bands whose beliefs aren't exactly NS.
Graveland has lyrics about killing Christians, but as said above Christianity isn't a race, so you're right. So how do these bands get labeled as NS if none of their songs have to do with anything Aryan? Fullmoon I can understand, their first song is called Aryans Ride over Fallen Israel, but like you said a lot of the NS bands don't talk about NS things. I know that Burzum is one of the more popular NS bands, and all the lyrics I've read from him are about darkness and depression (he's a good writer too).

Some NSBM is quite good, you're right.
Thunderbolt, for example.
I've heard NSDM as well: Infester, the vocalist has one of the most brutal growls I've heard.
I'll have to check 'em out now. And no, I'm not a Nazi. :)

LegionsofMarduk
01-06-2005, 03:36 PM
Graveland has lyrics about killing Christians, but as said above Christianity isn't a race, so you're right. So how do these bands get labeled as NS if none of their songs have to do with anything Aryan? Fullmoon I can understand, their first song is called Aryans Ride over Fallen Israel, but like you said a lot of the NS bands don't talk about NS things. I know that Burzum is one of the more popular NS bands, and all the lyrics I've read from him are about darkness and depression (he's a good writer too).

Burzum is considered NSBM because of his views. There is are quite a few chapters about racial issues in his book, Vargsmal.

TTTSNB
01-06-2005, 03:36 PM
I like:
Cryptopsy
Suffocation
Nile
Mayhem(black metal)
Dimmu Borgir(Especially their old stuff, which is black metal)
Could you people direct me to some other great extreme metal bands?

Bartender
01-06-2005, 03:41 PM
If you like Cryptopsy, you're almost sure to like Lykathea Aflame. Since you like Suffocation, check out Immolation. Carcass is just good all round, so they're always a safe bet. Three bands should be enough to check out, for now, I think.

LordDargon
01-06-2005, 04:22 PM
Ahh leave him alone Dargon. I bet not even a year ago you found out about bands like CoB and Kalmah, then did your "Holy ****! This is the best band ever!" thing. Then a week later never mention the band again, cause you've found a newer, better band to do that for.
No, I never liked that crap.

On another note:

APPALLING SPAWN ARE THE BEST BAND EVER!!!!!

:lol:

BoboTheRagingHobo
01-06-2005, 04:28 PM
No, I never liked that crap.

On another note:

APPALLING SPAWN ARE THE BEST BAND EVER!!!!!

:lol:



Can you be any more arrogant and elitest then you already are at the moment?

LordDargon
01-06-2005, 04:32 PM
Can you be any more arrogant and elitest then you already are at the moment?
yep, ARCTURUS ARE CRAP!



...Come on man, lighten up.

albinobuttcheeks
01-06-2005, 05:03 PM
No, I never liked that crap.

On another note:

APPALLING SPAWN ARE THE BEST BAND EVER!!!!!

:lol:

LordDragon

Ive been searching for appalling spawns cd for a while now think we could make a trade somehow???

albinobuttcheeks
01-06-2005, 05:06 PM
I first found out about them here somewhere I think

probably from one of my old posts, i post random stuff about my really good local bands.

LordDargon
01-06-2005, 05:07 PM
LordDragon

Ive been searching for appalling spawns cd for a while now think we could make a trade somehow???
Well, I could send it to you on slsk, my username is Lord Dargon. Slsk seems to be down right now, but next time we're on message me.

It isn't the best btw (I was joking) but it is very good.

Ihsahn
01-06-2005, 05:22 PM
Appalling Spawn is indeed asskickingly good.

On the topic of NSBM, I don't really see how Burzum is NSBM at all. Sure, Varg had national socialistic views but I don't really believe he expressed them in his music. In order for something to be NSBM don't NS viewpoints have to be expressed within the lyrics?

Oh, and Dargon, go to Suffocation/Behemoth/Misery Index on Feb 23d in Toronto.

Per Ardua Ad Astra
01-06-2005, 05:53 PM
I agree with Ihsahn, Varg's lyrics don't have much to do with national socialism. It's only his views, it's got nothing to do with his music.

For example, do people call Judas Priest 'Homosexual metal' because Halford is gay?
No, exactly.

Np: Nokturnal Mortum: Lunar Poetry

manuscriptreplica
01-06-2005, 05:57 PM
:lol: Homosexual metal

NP Vomitory - Rotting Hill

bassaholica2004
01-06-2005, 05:57 PM
Appalling Spawn is indeed asskickingly good.

On the topic of NSBM, I don't really see how Burzum is NSBM at all. Sure, Varg had national socialistic views but I don't really believe he expressed them in his music. In order for something to be NSBM don't NS viewpoints have to be expressed within the lyrics?

Oh, and Dargon, go to Suffocation/Behemoth/Misery Index on Feb 23d in Toronto.
Thats what I thought. Does anyone have the Infester album? I looked them up on M-A after Vitriolic Rage mentioned them, and after reading the review I really wanna hear them. They have a free MP3 here http://www.nsbm.com/bands/infester/index.html and god-damn I wanna get that album now.

Dark Hero
01-06-2005, 06:21 PM
NP: Malevolent Creation - Blood Brothers

Corporal Compendia
01-06-2005, 07:53 PM
Oh, and Dargon, go to Suffocation/Behemoth/Misery Index on Feb 23d in Toronto.

I'll be there. Can't forget about Kreator/Vader/Death Angel either though... but somehow, I don't see Vader playing. They didn't make it the last 2 times they tried to get into Canada.
Another show not to be missed is the Putrid Pile show happening in May... May 6th or something like that.
Putrid Pile
Lapidate
Horde of Worms
FATO
Odium

Ihsahn
01-06-2005, 07:56 PM
Yeah... but I don't think I'll be in the country for Kreator/Vader/Death Angel... I heard the news, looked at the date and started crying.

TheCrown
01-06-2005, 07:58 PM
I am a big Death Metal head, but I am not very much into Brutal Death Metal. My favorite Death Metal bads are The Crown(Favorite DM band ever),Vader, Unleashed, Dissection, At The Gates, Amon Amarth, In Flames, Dark Tranquillity, Death, and Suffocation.

Corporal Compendia
01-06-2005, 08:06 PM
Yeah... but I don't think I'll be in the country for Kreator/Vader/Death Angel... I heard the news, looked at the date and started crying.

Well, go to the Putrid Pile show then.

Give this song a listen and see what you think. Catchy brutal death metal.
http://www.putridpile.com/mp3/Severed%20Head%20Memento.mp3

Good openers for this show too.

TheCrown
01-06-2005, 08:16 PM
Well, go to the Putrid Pile show then.

Give this song a listen and see what you think. Catchy brutal death metal.
http://www.putridpile.com/mp3/Severed%20Head%20Memento.mp3

Good openers for this show too.
Oh my god... That is horrible, how do you listen to that? It is just noise... I love Death Metal, don't get me wrong, but how can you take a band that sounds like that seriously? It just makes that fact even more obvious when you see that the name of the band is Putrid Pile... If you are going to listen to that utter garbage, you might as well listen to Mortician or Carcass...

Ihsahn
01-06-2005, 08:18 PM
Oh my god... That is horrible, how do you listen to that? It is just noise... I love Death Metal, don't get me wrong, but how can you take a band that sounds like that seriously? It just makes that fact even more obvious when you see that the name of the band is Putrid Pile... If you are going to listen to that utter garbage, you might as well listen to Mortician or Carcass...

How dare you call Carcass utter garbage! Carcass owns your soul.

By the way, that Putrid Pile is quite good. Isn't it just one or two guys, and they get session musicians for shows or something like that?

Per Ardua Ad Astra
01-06-2005, 08:18 PM
Any non-Carcass fan will be unpleasantly escorted from this most pleasurable of threads.

He should be banned for bad taste in music.

Corporal Compendia
01-06-2005, 08:21 PM
Oh my god... That is horrible, how do you listen to that? It is just noise... I love Death Metal, don't get me wrong, but how can you take a band that sounds like that seriously? It just makes that fact even more obvious when you see that the name of the band is Putrid Pile... If you are going to listen to that utter garbage, you might as well listen to Mortician or Carcass...

No, you don't love death metal, and you don't know anything about Carcass do you? Judging the trash you seem to like, you would LOVE! the album Heartwork... not that Heartwork is trash...quite the opposite.

TheCrown
01-06-2005, 08:23 PM
Any non-Carcass fan will be unpleasantly escorted from this most pleasurable of threads.

He should be banned for bad taste in music.
The only thing Carcass has ever done that is worthwhile is create hilarious song titles and lyrics. The music is laughable to say the least. Think of it this way, it is all Carcass's fault that we have Mortician...

Corporal Compendia
01-06-2005, 08:23 PM
By the way, that Putrid Pile is quite good. Isn't it just one or two guys, and they get session musicians for shows or something like that?

It's just one guy, and he has used session musicians before, but he actually plays shows by himself with a drum machine. I hear he's great live.

TheCrown
01-06-2005, 08:25 PM
No, you don't love death metal, and you don't know anything about Carcass do you? Judging the trash you seem to like, you would LOVE! the album Heartwork... not that Heartwork is trash...quite the opposite.
I used to love Carcass, I actually own five of their albums, but now looking back I don't understand what was so great about them.

Ihsahn
01-06-2005, 08:25 PM
The only thing Carcass has ever done that is worthwhile is create hilarious song titles and lyrics. The music is laughable to say the least. Think of it this way, it is all Carcass's fault that we have Mortician...



edit: Nevermind, apparantly you own all 5 of their albums, however your opinion of them is horrible and worthless.

Per Ardua Ad Astra
01-06-2005, 08:26 PM
I used to love Carcass, I actually own five of their albums, but now looking back I don't understand what was so great about them.

What is so laughable about Heartwork?


I smell some bullshit coming.

TheCrown
01-06-2005, 08:29 PM
What is so laughable about Heartwork?


I smell some bullshit coming.
I don't own Heartwork, so I will listen to that and tell you how I feel. I didn't mean to cause any hostility, by the way.

Corporal Compendia
01-06-2005, 08:29 PM
I used to love Carcass, I actually own five of their albums, but now looking back I don't understand what was so great about them.

So you had all of their full length albums did you? Why don't you cite some of those awful lyrics from Heartwork? Go ahead and try it... In the words of George Carlin. It only takes about 5 seconds to realize someone is full of ****.

So here goes, you are full of ****!

Per Ardua Ad Astra
01-06-2005, 08:30 PM
Heh, beat you to it corporal.


TheCrown, where are you from in New Jersey?

Corporal Compendia
01-06-2005, 08:31 PM
I didn't mean to cause any hostility, by the way.

Of course not, but what can we say...
We death heads heart our Carcass.

TheCrown
01-06-2005, 08:33 PM
So you had all of their full length albums did you? Why don't you cite some of those awful lyrics from Heartwork? Go ahead and try it... In the words of George Carlin. It only takes about 5 seconds to realize someone is full of ****.

So here goes, you are full of ****!
I have Choice Cuts (I know it isn't a full length, it is a best of), Reek Of Putrefication, Symphonies Of Sickness, Wake Up and Smell The Carcass, and Flesh Ripping Sonic Torment (Downloaded, I don't actually own that one). I am from Monmouth County in New Jersey.

Per Ardua Ad Astra
01-06-2005, 08:34 PM
I'm from somerset county, central jersey.

Ihsahn
01-06-2005, 08:35 PM
I have Choice Cuts (I know it isn't a full length, it is a best of), Reek Of Putrefication, Symphonies Of Sickness, Wake Up and Smell The Carcass, and Flesh Ripping Sonic Torment (Downloaded, I don't actually own that one). I am from Monmouth County in New Jersey.

So you're missing Heartwork and Necroticism: Descanting the Insalubrious which are arguably their two best works.

albinobuttcheeks
01-06-2005, 08:37 PM
Well, I could send it to you on slsk, my username is Lord Dargon. Slsk seems to be down right now, but next time we're on message me.

It isn't the best btw (I was joking) but it is very good.


hah yea i know you were joking but ill set up a slsk thing tonight im just very into Lykathea Aflame so i really wanted some appalling spawn as well.

TheCrown
01-06-2005, 08:40 PM
So you're missing Heartwork and Necroticism: Descanting the Insalubrious which are arguably their two best works.
I looked at the tracklist for Heartwork, I didn't realize that Carnal Forge was on that album, I heard it on Music Choice a couple times. Superb song.

Corporal Compendia
01-06-2005, 08:41 PM
So you're missing Heartwork and Necroticism: Descanting the Insalubrious which are arguably their two best works.

He's also probably missing all the albums he claims to have. Especially since he thinks they sound just like Mortician.

Per Ardua Ad Astra
01-06-2005, 08:47 PM
I am now binging on Heartwork. Again.

bassaholica2004
01-06-2005, 08:49 PM
I think Necroticism is their best work. Heartwork is, eh, I dunno, I just don't like it as much. That doesn't mean its not good though. I still need to get some of their grind stuff though.

TheCrown
01-06-2005, 09:09 PM
He's also probably missing all the albums he claims to have. Especially since he thinks they sound just like Mortician.
I never said that they sounded like Mortician, but I am saying that they are responsible. The full potential of grindcore was really realized with Carcass. Short, fast songs are something Carcass does very well. Mortician's deep vocals show a lot of similarities to those of Carcass and they share relatively similar song structures. Ok, no more arguing about a stupid comment I made about Putrid Pile, ok? I apologize for wasting your time.

Edit: I am listening to "Wake Up And Smell The Carcass" and that album isn't like the others. I suppose if those other two albums are different and sound better than this than I might be unfairly judging Carcass without hearing all of their work.

sensitiveorgan00
01-06-2005, 09:10 PM
Well, go to the Putrid Pile show then.

Give this song a listen and see what you think. Catchy brutal death metal.
http://www.putridpile.com/mp3/Severed%20Head%20Memento.mp3

Good openers for this show too.

What is the location of the band?

Listening to the track now, not bad.

bassaholica2004
01-06-2005, 09:30 PM
To any other bassists in here: does anyone know how to get the grindy/ growly tone from the Obscura album? That is THE tone I've been looking for, and I can't seem to find it exactly on my bass. :confused:

CabbageStabbage
01-06-2005, 09:42 PM
To any other bassists in here: does anyone know how to get the grindy/ growly tone from the Obscura album? That is THE tone I've been looking for, and I can't seem to find it exactly on my bass. :confused:

I'm not sure exactly how to get that tone, but I know that Gorguts tunes down to G for a couple songs.

Also, the bassists slaps chords on his bass.

Try turning up the treble to get that grindy sound.

CaptainWaits
01-06-2005, 10:04 PM
I got some more Dew-Scented earlier today

Wicked Death/Thrash

manuscriptreplica
01-06-2005, 10:06 PM
@bassaholica2004: He uses distortion, I'm pretty sure

Just tune down and experiment, I'm sure you'll find the sound (or something similar) that you're looking for

bassaholica2004
01-06-2005, 10:12 PM
@bassaholica2004: He uses distortion, I'm pretty sure

Just tune down and experiment, I'm sure you'll find the sound (or something similar) that you're looking for
I've kinda got it. My band tunes down to A, but my bass gets really floppy at G cuz its a 34". I think you might be right about distortion, like just a little bit. I'll try it out tonight, thanks.

I'm not sure exactly how to get that tone, but I know that Gorguts tunes down to G for a couple songs.

Also, the bassists slaps chords on his bass.

Try turning up the treble to get that grindy sound.
Yeah I read that he slaps chords, thats awesome. I don't know if my thumbs are long enough though lol. I have bass and treble up high now, and mids almost gone. I'll see if I can do something with my effects pedal too.

bassaholica2004
01-06-2005, 11:54 PM
While we're on the subject of Carcass, I finally got Reek of Putrefaction today, and I can't believe what I've been missing out on. This is some good ****. I actually prefer the production on RoP to Necroticism because RoP is so bassy and heavy. Can anyone tell me of some other bands that are like early Carcass? This grind stuff is awesome.

Bartender
01-07-2005, 12:04 AM
I have Choice Cuts (I know it isn't a full length, it is a best of), Reek Of Putrefication, Symphonies Of Sickness, Wake Up and Smell The Carcass, and Flesh Ripping Sonic Torment (Downloaded, I don't actually own that one).

You seem to have just danced around all the non-grind stuff that Carcass did, and considering the leaps and bounds by which they changed their music from Symphonies of Sickness to Swansong..it'd be like listening to Area 305 and dismissing Atheist as latin pop.

So give Necroticism.. onwards a try. If you don't at least like Heartwork, then I'd seriously begin to doubt that you actually listen to all the melodic death you listed.

manuscriptreplica
01-07-2005, 12:24 AM
I don't like Heartwork that much, really... the song itself is probably my favourite MDM song, but the album is average to me.

And that Severed Head Stoning song was pretty awesome :thumb:

ThrashMaster27
01-07-2005, 12:28 AM
While we're on the subject of Carcass, I finally got Reek of Putrefaction today, and I can't believe what I've been missing out on. This is some good ****. I actually prefer the production on RoP to Necroticism because RoP is so bassy and heavy. Can anyone tell me of some other bands that are like early Carcass? This grind stuff is awesome.

I don't know how up you are on stuff, but I'm probably no help. Early Napalm Death is exactly the same minus the leads as Bill Steer was in them before Carcass. Erm, I'd also suggest Repulsion and Terrorizer, as they're kinda in the same camp, whilst not being EXACTLY the same. As I say, I don't have a big knowledge on the subject and most likely you'll already know all of them bands.

bassaholica2004
01-07-2005, 12:30 AM
I don't know how up you are on stuff, but I'm probably no help. Early Napalm Death is exactly the same minus the leads as Bill Steer was in them before Carcass. Erm, I'd also suggest Repulsion and Terrorizer, as they're kinda in the same camp, whilst not being EXACTLY the same. As I say, I don't have a big knowledge on the subject and most likely you'll already know all of them bands.
I haven't heard of Repulsion, and I've heard of Terrorizer but haven't heard them yet. Thanks, I'll check em out.

Corporal Compendia
01-07-2005, 03:12 AM
I haven't heard of Repulsion, and I've heard of Terrorizer but haven't heard them yet. Thanks, I'll check em out.

Be sure that you do, when you hear the opening track on Terrorizer's album, right away you'll be like... "*raging headbanging* RAAAAH!" Same goes for Repulsion.

Let's see... Napalm Death's earlier albums are a must. Scum and From Enslavement to Obliteration. Extreme Noise Terror's first album... Brutal Truth's first. Get it alllll man! GET IT ALLLLLL!

Corporal Compendia
01-07-2005, 03:19 AM
What is the location of the band?

Listening to the track now, not bad.

Wisconsin. That song isn't the best on the album, but they only had 2 songs up on their site. The other one they put up is good too though.

Corporal Compendia
01-07-2005, 03:22 AM
I never said that they sounded like Mortician, but I am saying that they are responsible. The full potential of grindcore was really realized with Carcass.

and Napalm Death and Repulsion and Terrorizer and Extreme Noise Terror, etc. Horror movies are mostly responsible for Mortician. Anyways, I know a lot of people that like Mortician.

Corporal Compendia
01-07-2005, 03:29 AM
To any other bassists in here: does anyone know how to get the grindy/ growly tone from the Obscura album? That is THE tone I've been looking for, and I can't seem to find it exactly on my bass. :confused:

http://www.guitar.com
I don't know if you've seen it already or not, but Luc and Steve C. did a video for that site. Steve talks a little about his bass playing technique. The answer may lie in there, but I doubt it. It's been some time since I watched that video. It's still cool though.

LordDargon
01-07-2005, 07:05 AM
Grr, Carcass bashing :angry: x 2

whatduffhuck7
01-07-2005, 07:10 AM
im not really into death metal to much, unless its medolic death. then its a different story. like in flames, dosent get anybetter than in flames. and stop naming bands in here that nobody has ever hear of please. its a waste time for you and the veiwers.

manuscriptreplica
01-07-2005, 07:12 AM
Hmm, sorry if we're not so set in our fuc king ways we don't listen to one band for our whole life, we like to discover new bands

LordDargon
01-07-2005, 07:17 AM
im not really into death metal to much, unless its medolic death. then its a different story. like in flames, dosent get anybetter than in flames. and stop naming bands in here that nobody has ever hear of please. its a waste time for you and the veiwers.
Just because you are ignorant doesn't make everyone else in here so.

EDIT: This guy repped me and left the comment "u r a fag" :rolleyes:

whatduffhuck7
01-07-2005, 07:30 AM
Hmm, sorry if we're not so set in our fuc king ways we don't listen to one band for our whole life, we like to discover new bands
are you kidding me? that makes me laugh. i bet in my cd holder i would have a much more variety right now than you will in your entire life. and its not just death metal. you know, some people like to go out and discover new genre's

Jondur
01-07-2005, 07:43 AM
Be sure that you do, when you hear the opening track on Terrorizer's album, right away you'll be like... "*raging headbanging* RAAAAH!" Same goes for Repulsion.

Let's see... Napalm Death's earlier albums are a must. Scum and From Enslavement to Obliteration. Extreme Noise Terror's first album... Brutal Truth's first. Get it alllll man! GET IT ALLLLLL!

Grind grind grind!!!!!

Not just their first, ENT Phonophobia and even some of the death metal stuff is also ace

Brutal Truth "need to control" is an all time classic.

But World Downfall is just so good its untrue. God I love that album.

Jondur
01-07-2005, 07:46 AM
im not really into death metal to much, unless its medolic death.

Then get out of the thread

dosent get anybetter than in flames.

:confused: It doesn't? And here I was thinking that In Flames were a crap pop death metal band who had only released two decent albums?

and stop naming bands in here that nobody has ever hear of please. its a waste time for you and the veiwers.

Idiot. That's how you hear about new bands. Besides no-ones mentioned any obscure bands. Although I can recommend Sore Throat it you like crusty grind.

mrbeefy250
01-07-2005, 07:47 AM
Im not.. BUT im bored so i will fill this is any way. i like some stuuf like that such as:

Pantera
Slayer
Vision Of Disorder
System Of A Down
SlipKnot

That is the HEAVY **** that i like but i like most Heavy Rock songs like:

Linkin Park
Rage Against the Machine
RHCP

etc. you now what i mean :p

that is punk **** with distortion

Jondur
01-07-2005, 07:49 AM
Excellent your first post is a reply to a post that is two years old. A good start. Try replying to something from the last few pages. Or go and listen to some Candlemass

br3ad_man
01-07-2005, 07:52 AM
I listen to:

Cryptopsy
Mithras
Wormed
Gorguts

and some others. Any suggestions for where to go next?

Jondur
01-07-2005, 08:00 AM
The obvious one seeing as you're into the experimental side of DM would be Lykathea Aflame.

Also try Pestilence "Spheres", Atheist, Cynic etc.

Other less well known ones would be Phantasmagory and Lunatic Gods

br3ad_man
01-07-2005, 08:05 AM
Cheers. I meant to check out Lykathea Aflame a while ago, I just forgot. I also listen to The Red Chord and Between The Buried and Me, if that helps.

"Focus" seems to be the obvious Cynic choice. Which Atheist should I try?

LordDargon
01-07-2005, 08:20 AM
Piece of Time for Athiest, now Jondur, what is Spheres like? I only have Malleus Malleficarum.

EDIT: Guy below me:

Necrophagist
Psycroptic
Sinners Bleed
Suffocation
Cryptopsy
Lykathea Aflame
Benighted
Spawn of Possession!

ieatcheese
01-07-2005, 08:27 AM
Hey, I'm having a hard time finding stuff. I've mostly been listening to stuff making a more mainstream impression.

Lamb of God
Killswitch Engage
Bleeding Through
In Flames
Iced Earth
Arch Enemy
Dimmu Borgir
Cradle of Filth

(Both of the last are really more black metal though)

I'm looking for something I can't find. I really want some heavy technical stuff. Musicality of Dream Theater, but as heavy as the stuff I've got there. In Flames sort of starts in the right direction, but I'm often let down by basslines, and they aren't quite heavy enough. I wish I could find something new =/

Jondur
01-07-2005, 08:29 AM
Spheres is where Pestilence went a bit strange. Has some jazzy bits and some psychedelic bits and some swoopy swooshy noises with some keys. But its not bad. In fact there's some really good bits.

Their finest hour remains "Consuming Impulse" - an absolute classic!

ieatcheese
01-07-2005, 08:58 AM
Thanks a lot. I'll check those out when I get home.

I'm just hoping these bands have good bassists, or I'm gonna... stop listening and go for other stuff.


Piece of Time for Athiest, now Jondur, what is Spheres like? I only have Malleus Malleficarum.

EDIT: Guy below me:

Necrophagist
Psycroptic
Sinners Bleed
Suffocation
Cryptopsy
Lykathea Aflame
Benighted
Spawn of Possession!

Ve Das
01-07-2005, 10:05 AM
Heh,you´ll be so blown away by the guitar work on some o those bands that you won´t hear the bass til approx the thrid time oyu listen to it.

BTW,Jon,have you sent my CD yet?

craggyisland
01-07-2005, 10:12 AM
Just to add a little to LordDargon's list, Gorguts is worth checking out for heavy basslines - the guy slaps chords. And the bass is fairly prominent, perhaps more so than other bands there.

Jondur
01-07-2005, 10:13 AM
yeah I know I'm a twat for delaying so long with the CD's. LilPete has probably put a contract out on me he's been waiting that long!!

My PC has died (or rather I can't run the CD burner for some reason) but I will try and nick a laptop from work. Will send you a pressie as well to make up for it.

Ve Das
01-07-2005, 10:15 AM
Okeyd´ohkey.You could try to burn it on by hand.A friend of mine did that when he "burnt" me Doom 3.As my (old) computer is slow as fück,I probably wouldn´t have noticed the difference...

LordDargon
01-07-2005, 10:18 AM
By hand? :confused: You mean like going over the surface of the CD and making little pinpricks in it for the laser to read :lol:

I repped all non-idiots on this page :chug:

Ve Das
01-07-2005, 10:23 AM
I don´t see any stars.I guess that´s a good thing...

LordDargon
01-07-2005, 10:29 AM
I don´t see any stars.I guess that´s a good thing...
Stars, mine are only worth 45 each, not 1000 :p

superpeer
01-07-2005, 11:29 AM
Cheers. I meant to check out Lykathea Aflame a while ago, I just forgot. I also listen to The Red Chord and Between The Buried and Me, if that helps.

"Focus" seems to be the obvious Cynic choice. Which Atheist should I try?

I think unquestionable presence.

lilpete86
01-07-2005, 12:34 PM
yeah I know I'm a twat for delaying so long with the CD's. LilPete has probably put a contract out on me he's been waiting that long!!
.

Theres no worries man, I understand you've been busy with all sorts of ****. No hurry.

superpeer
01-07-2005, 12:40 PM
I agree with Ihsahn, Varg's lyrics don't have much to do with national socialism. It's only his views, it's got nothing to do with his music.

For example, do people call Judas Priest 'Homosexual metal' because Halford is gay?
No, exactly.

Np: Nokturnal Mortum: Lunar Poetry

Haha. :lol:

I'd reserve that term for Manowar. :lol:


Sorry, guys. ;)

whatduffhuck7
01-07-2005, 12:46 PM
lamb of god
in flames
all that remains
bleeding through
COB
the black dahlia murder
mastadon
PRO-PAIN: god this is a good band with out any recognition

Bartender
01-07-2005, 12:54 PM
Haha. :lol:

I'd reserve that term for Manowar. :lol:


Sorry, guys. ;)

*glares*

Cheers. I meant to check out Lykathea Aflame a while ago, I just forgot. I also listen to The Red Chord and Between The Buried and Me, if that helps.

"Focus" seems to be the obvious Cynic choice. Which Atheist should I try?

I also favour Unquestionable Presence.

Can anyone confirm the date for the Arcturus show in London? I've seen conflicting times all over the place, some saying the 23rd, some the 27th. One means I may be able to go, the other means I probably won't.

And a swift \m/ to the mention of Consuming Impulse on the previous page. I love that album.

LordDargon
01-07-2005, 01:01 PM
Abhorrence make me do this:

\m/

LegionsofMarduk
01-07-2005, 01:14 PM
I repped all non-idiots on this page :chug:

I neg repped all of the idiots. :thumb:

DECHRISTIANIIIIIZE!!!

lilpete86
01-07-2005, 01:16 PM
Can anyone confirm the date for the Arcturus show in London? I've seen conflicting times all over the place, some saying the 23rd, some the 27th. One means I may be able to go, the other means I probably won't.

.

According to the advert in ZT it's the 27th. Long trip from leeds isn't it.

Bartender
01-07-2005, 01:24 PM
Yep. And the 27th is the bad date. Ah well.

NP Immolation - Those Left Behind

lilpete86
01-07-2005, 01:35 PM
Are you going to be heading down to london for Morbid Angel at all?

Corporal Compendia
01-07-2005, 02:01 PM
Grind grind grind!!!!!

Not just their first, ENT Phonophobia and even some of the death metal stuff is also ace

Brutal Truth "need to control" is an all time classic.

But World Downfall is just so good its untrue. God I love that album.

****! Right!
While we're on the subject of grinding things... let us also Mince things with some AGATHOCLES! Humarrogance god **** it! HUM!ARROGANCE! RAZOR SHARP DAGGERS! Yes!

Stoic
01-07-2005, 02:35 PM
To any other bassists in here

*sigh*...these bass discussions...I LOVE the bass but my fingers are too small...

TheCrown
01-07-2005, 02:39 PM
In my first post I neglected to mention some other bands I listen to.
Opeth (If you consider that old stuff death metal), Deicide, Cannibal Corpse, Decapitated, Absu, Soilwork, Therion's older albums, Tiamat's older albums (****ing classics), Abscess, Arch Enemy, Lock Up, Athiest, Autopsy, Sacramentum, Satanic Slaughter, Seance, and The Ravenous.
I suppose I can see what people enjoy about older Carcass, but I can't say I enjoy it too.

Vitriolic Rage
01-07-2005, 02:41 PM
Ah, I can't wait till the Nile gig in Leeds in March, Dying Fetus and Necrophagia (or something like that) are supporting.
You'll probably be going won't you Bartender?

*me hopes for them to play Execration Text live*

LordDargon
01-07-2005, 03:02 PM
Ah, I can't wait till the Nile gig in Leeds in March, Dying Fetus and Necrophagia (or something like that) are supporting.
You'll probably be going won't you Bartender?

*me hopes for them to play Execration Text live*
Are you joking? Necrophagist are the best band of the three :lol:

EDIT: Hey Craggy, Vitriolic, check out Trails of Anguish since you like Anaal Nathrakh. They're Canadian.

http://trailsofanguish.metalhordes.com/index2.htm

whatduffhuck7
01-07-2005, 04:32 PM
i do not like the black metal growl, but i do like opeth, i only have 4 by them ( black water park, ****ation, orchid, ????) but i was wondering if they had any songs with a scream not a growl? (by the way ive only listened to balckwater park so far so i dont know any of the other songs on the other cds i have by them)

Bartender
01-07-2005, 04:34 PM
Are you going to be heading down to london for Morbid Angel at all?

I don't know. 19th of April, isn't it? It's a tuesday, which complicates things horribly. I'll be there if I can though.


Ah, I can't wait till the Nile gig in Leeds in March, Dying Fetus and Necrophagia (or something like that) are supporting.
You'll probably be going won't you Bartender?

*me hopes for them to play Execration Text live*

Yes, that I probably will be at, as it's about five minutes from my front door. I thought it was Dying Fetus headlining though (Nile and Necrophagist supporting)?

craggyisland
01-07-2005, 04:45 PM
Yes, that I probably will be at, as it's about five minutes from my front door. I thought it was Dying Fetus headlining though (Nile and Necrophagist supporting)?
Far as I know, it's Necrophagist - Dying Fetus - Nile, chronologically. I might be at the Leeds date too. Usually it'd be the Manchester one, but that's midweek, and Leeds is a Friday I think. It's a long trek from Liverpool, but worth it.

@LordDargon: Thanks for the recommendation, I'm just off to check them out now.

Toozey
01-07-2005, 04:46 PM
I don't know. 19th of April, is