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xAzagthothx

08-04-2002, 03:55 PM

well boys here it is.

Greg Pittz review of the "In Their Darkened Shrines Tour"

me and my friends pulled in Winners's parking lot about 2 hours prior to showtime. there was already some people there. when the doors finally opened at about 7:45....i went right for the shirts. yoinked myself a Nile and Hate Eternal shirt. they were ****in 25 bux!! ****!. i was expecting more like 12 or so. anyway, after that i went right up to the middle of the stage. a drum kit was setup with Hate Eternal stickers on the kicks and i thought "wtf...hate eternal's opening??" anyway....then a bassist came onstage and started shredding as a warmup...it looked like Jared Anderson but it was the guy from Origin.

Origin:

wow. ****ing...wow. Origin are the new kings of tech-death. i had the opportunity to be right in front of John Longstreth as he was playing. wow...like...wow. the dude is beyond human. lol it was funny, the entire time he kept playing with his tongue piercing...pulling out between his lips. he gets the goofiest faces when he plays...his face looks like *staring down at kit* "wft am i supposed to do with this???" anyway....the tri vocalist attack ruled. the guitarists shredded.....and their bassist is disgustingly amazing. they played a bunch of new songs...the only songs from their debut that i could remember were "sociocide" and the amazingly awesome "disease called man" i couldnt refrain myself from jumping into the pit during disease called man...its just such a killer song. i wish i hadnt almost now b/c i would have gotten to see Longstreths world record blast beat on that song lol.

Hate Eternal

ok, now....Webster's dictionary has been updated. the words Anger and Rage now have new definitions. the new defitions are "Erik Rutan" and "Erik Rutan" respectively. never in my life have i EVER seen someone play with so much rage and anger and hate and...wow. the dudes ****in mouth opened up at least like 3 or 4 inches...he could have easily swollowed the entire microphone. during their set i was half in the pit, have watching in awe. they only did one new song "King Of All Kings" and i managed to yoink the setlist after they left the stage...which reads as follows: Sacrilege, Catacombs, Praise, Obscure, Servants, By His Own, Creed, Dogma (such a ****ing awesome song), In Spirit, Darnkess, and King Of All Kings. actually...i think 3 of those are new songs...heh who cares. Hate Eternal ****in slays. Derek Roddy is a blast to watch (pun intended...heh). Rutan was sportin a red bc rich ironbird (hmm...i think someone had an influence on him..heh). after "Praise Of The Almighty", Rutan looked straight into my eyes, pointed, and yelled "this next one is for you people, in the ****ing pit. lets see some crazy **** started" and then blasted into Nailed To Obscurity. let me reiterate my early statings: never in my life have i ever seen anyone do ANYTHING with as much rage as Rutan. its ****in weird...i thought the dude was gonna have a stroke onstage or watch a vein burst in his neck. ****in amazing.

Arch Enemey

pissed me off. for one, i was sooo dehydrated and thirsty from the previous 2 bands...that i wasnt in much shape for their set. i was right in front of Mike Amott for this one...and if i felt compelled to do so, i could have grabbed his junk from those gay ****ing tight leather pants he was wearing, or knocked him over off his high heels. gay. they came on, Angela Gossow coming on last of everyone...and acted as if they were Twisted Sister playing at MSG. they all look funny too. lol. they ****in played ridiculously fast, blasting through 7 songs in roughly a half hour. not once did Gossow or any of the other members acknowledge any of our devil horns or outstretched hands. that pissed me off. gossow didnt have any makeup on either, so she looked....iffy. her body is ****in great tho lol. all in all, i didnt enjoy arch enemy's set. they only did 1 old song off of Burning Bridges, the rest was from Wages Of Sin. its up in the air if id ever pay to see them again.

now...the colossus that is..

NILE

let me put it brief for you people. Nile=WOW. i watched Karl set up his mammoth guitar rig...the dudes ****in crazy. fat too. lol. nothing against him. anyway, they opened up with the brutal "Smashing The Antiu" ****in killer. Sanders pointed his guitar at me during one of the solos and i grabbed onto the end of its headstock. very very cool. next up was one of their new ones, i forget the name. my bassist for my band yoinked their setlist, and i forget the order of the songs. this is what i remember them playing: Smashing The Antiu, Barra Endinazzu (or however u spell it), Ramses Bringer Of War (\m/...broke my hand on the monitor during this one), Stones Of Sorrow, The Black Flame, Serpent Headed Mask, Defiling The Gates Of Ishtar, Sarcaphogous, Churning The Maelstroms, The Blessed Dead, Black Seeds Of Vengeance, Destruction Of The Temple (the closer). thats about all i can remember. i couldnt count the number of times during this set that i was giving the devil horns, screaming...looking at Karl or their new bassist...and theyd look right back into my eyes and would give a devilish grin. soooooooo amazing. sooooooo ****ing awesome. the sound was perfect. everything was awesome. during the chant part of "Black Seeds Of Vengeance", Rutan and the singer from Origin came onstage to yell "Black Seeds Of Vengeance" along with everyone else. definately very cool. during just about every guitar solo that Sanders did, my hand was right by his giving the devil horns, almost fuelling him with the fire to shred. after each time of this, he'd look right down at me and ****in smile. very own. the set slayed. i donno if ive ever seen a better concert. definately THE best lineup ill probably ever get to see in a club. at the end of the set, Tony from Angelcorpse (now nile drummer) came down and shook my friends hands and we talked for a minute, complimenting him and what not. very own.

afterwords, we went outside and i got all my cd jackets that i brought (3 nile, 1 origin, 1 hate eternal, 1 arch enemy) signed except the arch enemy one (pompous bastards) and hate eternal (they were all sleeping on the tour bus). very awesome. talked with Sanders and the new Nile singer for about 20 minutes.

thats about it...im just almost finishing recovering from this show...lol. taken about 3 days so far. heh.

Nile=Own

GertrudeMcCrack

08-04-2002, 04:01 PM

So, it was a bit good, then?

slayerrules

08-10-2002, 02:26 PM

Awesome review Azagthoth. I'm surprised to hear what you said about Arch Enemy though. I've heard nothing but good things about them on this tour so far.

xAzagthothx

08-10-2002, 10:55 PM

thanks. but yeah.....ive really lost a lot of respect for Arch Enemy. they really pissed me off during the show. id be hard pressed to see them again.

Terminal Spirit

08-10-2002, 11:01 PM

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mutilator

08-12-2002, 06:59 AM

hey everybody i'm back after a long time away. i'm still addicted to DM and that won't change anytime soon
Hail Death Metal!

Jondur

08-12-2002, 07:50 AM

Aah Long time no post! I've been in germany you see.... At Wacken!!!! Thought you might like to hear what it was like... if not, move to the next post!

Arrived at 5.30 Thursday evening after a 26 hour coach drive - I've already been drunk and hungover once, and the rain is pouring down! I borrowed a mates tent (the soft git decided to fly - wuss) but soon found out that he'd forgotten to give me a vital piece of the tent - ie the bit that kept the water out! This meant that there was at least half an inch of water in the tent. Nice! I decided the only way I could sleep in that was to get unbelievably drunk. So I did! There were bands on the Thursday night including Blaze, Doro and Rose Tattoo but it was raining and I don't really like any of them so I stayed in the beer tent.

Friday: Unfortunately I missed Vomitory, who impressed when I saw them earlier this year and Fleshcrawl due to a massive hangover and the need to sort the tent out. So the first band of the festival for me was the mighty Dying Fetus!! Insanely technical and brutal as a particularly brutal thing, they impressed far more live than on record. An excellent start and the metal market sold out of their records very quickly. Aah the metal market! Two huge tents, packed with CD's, Vinyl, Tshirts, videos etc all selling at about half of what we pay in the UK, yes it's a nirvana for the record collector! Next up were the ridiculous Metalucifer! funny for 5 minutes and then I left. I also saw some of Destuction and Pungent Stench before hunger got the better of me. After some tea, I took a place to see Bruce Dickinson who was the same as he is with Maiden - plus he played "Revelations"!! Which was excellent. It was then off to a sweaty tent stage to see Irelands finest, Primordial. A great show and an excellent atmosphere - dark and smelly. We emerged from the dank confines of the tent, expecting to take a leisurely stroll up to one of the open air stages before My Dying Bride came on and then to watch Candlemass. But imagine my horror to see Candlemass's backdrop on the stage! They'd changed the running order! We ran like mad but they had finished before we even got there!!! I was gutted. Anyway after some swearing, MDB came onstage and played a stellar set - everything you'd expect really. After that came some serious drinking and then we watched Warlord (because a friend is a huge Fates Warning fan and their drummer was playing for them) but immediately wished I hadn't. Not my cup of tea! I watched more bands on the Saturday but I've got to do some work so I'll post some more later (if you're interested that is.)

slayerrules

08-12-2002, 08:19 AM

Yeah, post them. Great review,

angeldeath

08-12-2002, 09:55 PM

Indeed I was the one who brought greg to the nile show (i know im a bit late with this reply (yes i stille xsist)) Origin But on a brutal show interacting with the fans quite a bit. Hate Eternal took the show in some instances, great band (I got Derek Roody's autograpgh drum stick hahahahahahahahahah) Arch Enemy I had a problem with Her, she paid no attention to the fans Ignored everyone, atleast the the brothers on guitar and the bass player were in your face while playing solos interacting with you letting you know your the reason they are there...then we move on to Nile...>:) great show, absolutly great, even though Winners ****ed up there sound, it was hilarious to see Chief Spires Kick one of there PA's. Chief was definatly in your face, i even hit his bass a few times head banging, but it was all good. Also i got Karl and Chief Spires autograph so it was a goooooooooood ****ing night

Until Next Time
SINserely
Chris Agnibaal

Jondur

08-13-2002, 04:38 AM

Wacken Part 2!

Again after waking up with a massive hangover (kind of a festival theme for me!) I made my way to the festival site to see Amon Amarth who were awful - OK the songs are quite good but they really are not very good live. Sloppy, out of time and except the singer, totally lacking in stage presence. Next up were the excellent Macabre! A great band and great live. A mixture of grinding Amercan death metal a la Incantation etc and hilarious nursery rhyme sections. Each song was preceded by an explanation of the serial killers modus operandi. By now the heat had got to riduculous levels and I ran away in search of shade as at this point my ever so English deathly pale complexion was heading ever more into lobster colouration! This mean I mised Nuclear Assault and the amusement that is Immortal live. After some *ahem* light refreshment I returned to see Vanden Plas who aren't probably applicable to this thread being, as they are, a prog band along the lines of Dream Theater. But I liked them anyway. I watched the end of Exodus which was entertaining enough but doesn't sound right without Baloff. I ignored most of Hypocrisy because I think they're second rate (although they have a few great songs) and not very good live. Bay Area thrash legends, Heathen were the next port of call and were excellent - the touch has not been lost! Cannibal Corpse put in their usual workmanlike but enjoyable performance. Unfortunately, as always, their ongoing problems with the German authorities meant that they couldn't play anything off the first three albums. Which of cours meant half the classics were missed but I enjoy the newer material as well so it was a good set. While the vast majority rushed to witness the phenomenal popularity of Blind Guardian, I made my way to catch some old school swedish death metal in the form of Unleashed! A quality set from one of my favourite bands, including crowd participation! Only in Germany could a death metal band do cheesy arena tricks such as holding competitions between parts of the crowd to see who could sing the loudest! Seeing as Blind Guardian were playing a two hour set, I had no problem in catching the end of their set. I must admit they're not really my cup of tea but it was fun seeing the Germans go crazy! The reception for Kreator was also frightening and they repaid their home crowd with an excellent set and were the band of the festival for me. All the classics: Flag of Hate, Extreme Aggression etc.

So there you have it, Wacken Open Air 2002. Someone sold their soul for good weather on the two festival days and it poured the day before and the day after! My favourite bands were:

1) Kreator
2) Dying Fetus
3) Primordial
4) My Dying Bride
5) Macabre

If you live in Europe you really should go at least once!

Jondur

08-15-2002, 03:49 AM

3rd Page!!! What's going on? Get posting you mothers!

slayerrules

08-15-2002, 08:48 AM

Whats up with CC not being able to play material from their first 3 albums? Could the police even tell if they were?

Jondur

08-15-2002, 09:13 AM

The first 3 albums are banned in Germany due to censorship issues. And the police send someone to each CC gig and yes they can tell because apparently they tried introduce one of the old songs as a different song but they still got a letter warning them that if they ever did it again they'd be prosecuted! Crazy but true!

Obsolete

08-15-2002, 11:09 AM

Alright, help me out here. I'm into Death, Iron Maiden, Opeth, Dream Theater, Testament, Arch Enemy, In Flames, At the Gates, Children of Bodom, Darkest Hour, Depresy, Iced Earth, Meshuggah, Metallica, Nevermore, and some Morbid Angel at the moment. So, tell me, what kind of music do I like? Any other bands I should check out?

MachineF*ckingHead

08-15-2002, 11:25 AM

Angela has a good reason for not getting involved with the crowds, if you ask me... at the beginning of the tour she did all that, and in return was severely disrespected. It must feel horrible for a female to be up onstage playing for a mostly drunken male audience, more than half of which are chanting, "TAKE IT OFF! TAKE IT OFF!" every night... which is precisely what was happening. If you ask me, she is just disgusted with quite a few people, and rightfully so.

MachineF*ckingHead

08-15-2002, 11:28 AM

Originally posted by Obsolete
Alright, help me out here. I'm into Death, Iron Maiden, Opeth, Dream Theater, Testament, Arch Enemy, In Flames, At the Gates, Children of Bodom, Darkest Hour, Depresy, Iced Earth, Meshuggah, Metallica, Nevermore, and some Morbid Angel at the moment. So, tell me, what kind of music do I like? Any other bands I should check out?

Check out Dark Tranquillity!

Jondur

08-15-2002, 11:29 AM

You my friend are a fairly well rounded individual in that you like mainly melodic death metal and some power/thrash. You should also think about checking out the following:

Eucharist
Acid Death
Demons and Wizards
Solstice
Dissection
Dark Tranquility
Abominant
Primordial
Arcturus
Ominous
Moonspell

All these bands have a high melodic content but are still recognisably Metal. If you wanted to go abit more off the wall and less out and out metal perhaps some: In The Woods might float yer boat

MachineF*ckingHead

08-15-2002, 12:08 PM

Originally posted by Jondur
You my friend are a fairly well rounded individual in that you like mainly melodic death metal and some power/thrash. You should also think about checking out the following:

Eucharist
Acid Death
Demons and Wizards
Solstice
Dissection
Dark Tranquility
Abominant
Primordial
Arcturus
Ominous
Moonspell

All these bands have a high melodic content but are still recognisably Metal. If you wanted to go abit more off the wall and less out and out metal perhaps some: In The Woods might float yer boat

Good picks Jondur.

Obsolete

08-15-2002, 02:34 PM

I got some Dark Tranquility already, actually.... "The Same" and "The Gallery" are really good songs, but then "Of Chaos and Eternal Night" disgusts me. I just don't like the drums going that fast... but, I'll definitely check out some other stuff, too. Thanks guys.

MachineF*ckingHead

08-15-2002, 06:21 PM

No problem man... oh, one other band you might want to try... Dimension Zero. Jesper and a couple of the old members of In Flames are in there, and they are quite good.

disgruntled

08-15-2002, 09:06 PM

Death metal F*c*ing rules. I like:
Canniabl Corpse
Morbid Angel
Early Napalm Death
Hypocricy
At the Gates
The Crown
LOCK UP
Slayer
Early Cradle of Filth
and a heap more but i just cant be bothered puting them down

xAzagthothx

08-17-2002, 11:30 AM

well folks im finally back. i was away for a week at hockey camp in Toronto. ****ing exhausted.

my band has a new website:

http://4angeldeath.tripod.com

check it out foo

BlackBoxSucks

08-17-2002, 05:10 PM

i have **** all over my dick, know why, i just got done ****ing MX's Mom in the butt, then i ****ed her vaginally, it was great

mick7

08-17-2002, 06:16 PM

to black box sucks...u r an idiot and i hope u die an untimely death to the hands of mx...this is a quality thread and people like u **** it up for people like me! So piss off!

slayerrules

08-17-2002, 07:34 PM

I don't know if anyone else heard this, but Morbid Angel guitarist Erik Rutan has left the band to pursue Hate Eternal full time. I found this on www.morbidangel.com:

Erik Rutan has announced he is leaving Morbid Angel in order to devote himself entirely to Hate Eternal. Erik began playing guitar with Morbid Angel in 1993 and has played on three of the band's albums, as well as numerous national and international tours. In 1996, Erik began forming Hate Eternal, a blistering Death Metal band that takes technicality and brutality to new levels. In Hate Eternal, Erik fully expresses his own musical and lyrical ideas, handling vocals and guitar, and the majority of the songwriting. Hate Eternal's debut album, "Conquering The Throne", was the high-water mark for Death Metal in 1999 -- a furious yet precise assault on the senses. Hate Eternal's second album, "King Of All Kings" is now finished and is set for release on September 16th in Europe and September 17th in the US.

Erik had this to say about his decision to focus all his energies on Hate Eternal:

"Being in Morbid Angel for the past nine years has been the greatest time of my life. To play in my favorite Death Metal band of all time has been a tremendous honor. I want to thank Trey and Pete for all the great years and all they have done for me, and all the fans who have supported me and will hopefully continue to support me in the future. It is now time for me to stand on my own two feet with Hate Eternal."

See Hate Eternal on tour November 5 - November 28 with Cannibal Corpse!

xAzagthothx

08-17-2002, 10:27 PM

MORBID ANGEL FINALLY PUT UP AN UPDATE!!!!!!!!!

lol...takes em 3 months to get around to it.

Morbid Angel rules all.

xAzagthothx

08-17-2002, 10:35 PM

....im not seeing this update

mieirdraven

08-17-2002, 10:44 PM

Death Metal you @$$es that is what the man asked ....

try these to the post creator or anyone else interested all very good. catagorized as Black Metal, Death Metal, EBM, Industrial

Cradle of Filth ------- Death Metal
Switchblade Symphony ------ Industrial
KMFDM ------ Industrial
MDFMK ------ EBM/Industial
Leaetherstrip ------ Industrial
Wumpscut ------ EBM
Bile ------ Industrial/Death Metal
Mindless Self Indulgence ------- HEh their own cals of ****
My Life With the Thrill Kill Cult ------ Industrial/ Death Metal

that is my list for now.... until i can find more or remember things

xAzagthothx

08-18-2002, 12:14 AM

since when was Cradle Of Filth anything other than ****ty wanna be symphonic black metal?

lol...theyre cool to listen to sometimes but NO WHERE near death metal.

amazing death metal:

Morbid Angel
Nile
Suffocation
Hate Eternal
Origin
Cryptopsy
Morbid Angel
Cannibal Corpse
Exhumed
Skinless
Six Feet Under

hmm....yup thats death metal for ya

coypu

08-18-2002, 08:27 AM

more amazing death metal:

Carcass
Atheist
Death
Gorguts
Immolation
Cynic

...the list can be made alot longer but theese above are essential!

xAzagthothx

08-18-2002, 09:57 AM

shut up Coypu MORBID ANGEL IS ESSENTIAL!!!

coypu

08-18-2002, 10:34 AM

My list was an addition to yours and not a replacement.

xAzagthothx

08-18-2002, 12:47 PM

YOU STILL NEED TO PUT MORBID ANGEL ON EVERY LIST!!!!!!

lol just messin with you coypu

Obsolete

08-18-2002, 02:01 PM

I honestly don't see what's so amazing about Morbid Angel. Sure, I like some of their stuff, but I don't find them THAT amazing. Maybe I'm just not that interested in that part of metal (whatever Morbid Angel is considered...). Please, tell me what is so amazing about them. The guitars and drums are good and fast, but the bass isn't that great.

BlackBoxSucks

08-18-2002, 03:03 PM

Originally posted by mick7
to black box sucks...u r an idiot and i hope u die an untimely death to the hands of mx...this is a quality thread and people like u **** it up for people like me! So piss off!

as a matter of fact... i just got dont ****ing your mom, she sucked, her *** was so loose. i cant believe it, i got so much **** on my dick you would never think she had taken a **** in her life

GertrudeMcCrack

08-18-2002, 06:29 PM

Originally posted by Obsolete
I honestly don't see what's so amazing about Morbid Angel. Sure, I like some of their stuff, but I don't find them THAT amazing. Maybe I'm just not that interested in that part of metal (whatever Morbid Angel is considered...). Please, tell me what is so amazing about them. The guitars and drums are good and fast, but the bass isn't that great. Hmmm, i don't know, when i first listened, it was the guitar and drums that amazed me so much! What songs have you heard? Maybe a few more classics will convince you. Oh, and to be fair, the bassist is the singer, so that explains the basslines.

xAzagthothx

08-18-2002, 10:11 PM

Originally posted by Obsolete
I honestly don't see what's so amazing about Morbid Angel. Sure, I like some of their stuff, but I don't find them THAT amazing. Maybe I'm just not that interested in that part of metal (whatever Morbid Angel is considered...). Please, tell me what is so amazing about them. The guitars and drums are good and fast, but the bass isn't that great.

...

well....the first thing that comes to mind as a response to something like that is what an idiot you are, but whatever.

but let me CHALLENGE YOU. just TRY and play a trey solo. TRY IT.

then well all laugh when you fail miserably.

mick7

08-19-2002, 01:54 AM

Originally posted by BlackBoxSucks

as a matter of fact... i just got dont ****ing your mom, she sucked, her *** was so loose. i cant believe it, i got so much **** on my dick you would never think she had taken a **** in her life

Hmm lets see...Maybe if my mum wasn't passed away (3 years ago next week to be exact) then she couldv'e done those things...Get some research you tosser I come on these forums to speak music and to get my mind of such things and people like you come along and make me feel bad...Please moderators do something about this imbocile such as an IP banning as his comments are uneccessary and are taking away the fun of browsing the forums...

p.s. maybe some of you other guys could help me get this guy banned?

coypu

08-19-2002, 04:09 AM

Originally posted by xAzagthothx
YOU STILL NEED TO PUT MORBID ANGEL ON EVERY LIST!!!!!!

lol just messin with you coypu

It's ok but I agree with Obsolete about Morbid Angel, they are very overrated by so many and I can't see what makes them so great at all. They have bad bass play, boring vocals and sloppy guitar play and the drums are so triggered that they sound computer generated and the songwriting is pretty avarage nowadays. Even Kelly Shaefer of Atheist called them untalented 10 years ago and as usual he was right. Cradle of Filth is much better, they are the true legends of death metal.

Jondur

08-19-2002, 04:14 AM

Mick7 - Don't bother reading his posts and don't let him get to you. (Have we still got that ignore function?).

Obsolete - Morbid Angel took Death Metal to a whole new level with their debut album "Altars of Madness" and with each new release they've strived to push the boundaries of the genre. I can honestly say that bar "Gateways" I consider every single album to be a classic. On "Formulas Fatal to the Flesh", while not their strongest album, they managed to add some really quirky, melodic sections - especially on the second half of the album. I'd find it hard to have a reasoned discussion about MA because I've been listening to them for nearly 10 years now and they're part of my musical life! But I'll try not to get angry about it :-)

Jondur

08-19-2002, 04:17 AM

ps The Kovenant are much more hardcore death metal than cradle of Filth

Obsolete

08-19-2002, 03:17 PM

I have Covenant and it's pretty good... I'm just saying that I don't understand why everyone think they're a SUPER good band. I would say that Death has more talent than them (IMO). Oh, and I don't play guitar... so, I know I couldn't even try to play one of the solos.

coypu

08-19-2002, 04:16 PM

I prefer old Morbid Angel alot more, it had more energy and most tunes from thoose days where just great and groundbraking death metal songs. The last albums are ok but compared to the other death metal bands doing technical death they seem to be abit weak, especially gateways to annihation and Domination. I would definately spend my money on a Immolation album instead for Morvid Angel if I where to choose.

slayerrules

08-19-2002, 05:25 PM

Originally posted by coypu
I prefer old Morbid Angel alot more, it had more energy and most tunes from thoose days where just great and groundbraking death metal songs. The last albums are ok but compared to the other death metal bands doing technical death they seem to be abit weak, especially gateways to annihation and Domination. I would definately spend my money on a Immolation album instead for Morvid Angel if I where to choose.

Yeah, I agree with you on that. Covenant, to me, was such a better cd than GTA. Altars of Madness was also better. GTA was still good though.

xAzagthothx

08-19-2002, 06:25 PM

coypu i really hope ur bein sarcastic about the cradle of filth comment....otherwise i think i just lost all respect in you music wise lol.

regarding Gateways....i think its a good album. nothing amazing, just a good album. most people probably dont like it because they slowed wayyyy down and created a different groove. my personal favorites are Altars, Covenant, and Formulas. Domination, aside from treys solos...really sucks. ironically, my favorite albums were prodominately written by Trey. all of Formulas was, half of Altars, and all but 1 song musically on Covenant.

if you want groundbreaking amazement and innovation, go out and buy the album "Formulas Fatal To The Flesh"

make sure you listen to it on a discman and while on the can, cuz ur gonna **** urself when you listen to it.

coypu

08-20-2002, 03:42 AM

Formulas depend to much on the solos, just listen to the song Covenant of death, the only worthwhile part is the solo apart from that the song isn't too much fun at all. The only really good song is Invocation of the continual one and didn't he write that about 10+ years ago? I like Morbid Angel but I can name 20 bands that I like better who I think are alot better in so many ways, Morbid Angel have never had really good vocals and had always bad bassplay to name a few things. I respect the fact that it is your favorite? band but for people who aren't too sure what to think I just want to say that their thoughts are shared by many.

But all this is just opinion, there isn't much need in discussion this back and forth so with some luck people who haven't heard them MUST check them out and even if they love it or hate it atleast they have heard it.

GertrudeMcCrack

08-20-2002, 03:52 PM

Everyone respects MA because of the huge influence they had on DM, so it's perfectly understandable that listening to them after you've heard some more recent bands, you'd be kind of unimpressed. It's like listening to Pantera before you've ever heard Sabbath, if you know what i mean.

xAzagthothx

08-21-2002, 10:27 AM

i donno what u guys are smokin lol but i think morbid angel owns all.

****in just got my tonsils taken out monday....it ****in kills. the novacaine has worn off and the pain killers are in, but it still hurts pretty ****in bad.

NEW NILE ALBUM OUT \m/

Obsolete

08-21-2002, 04:47 PM

Yeah, I may have to do that, too. I don't have an infection or anything, but my throat's been hurting for over a month, now. Can you still sing after they're taken out?

angeldeath

08-21-2002, 05:13 PM

WHAT THE **** AM I HEARING!!!!!!

CoF...DEATH METAL!!!they are black metal by far, thats like saying Dimmu Borgir is Hard Core!!!!!!!thats blasphomus!!!!!!
and...yes morbid angel does get boring at times, but you all have to admit, they did come up with some very complex riffs, and some of the most memorable death metal riffs of all time

what makes MA boring is the fact they only concentrait on major and minor 3rds on almost every song, but the vocals i dont think bad. Back in the early 90's death metalwas basically experimental in florida (ie MA, Deicide) it was how evil can you get your vox (glen won that battle always), now-a-days Death Metal Vox are lower, the name of the game is who can get lower, and how fast can your feet move.

Now with newer Melodic Death Metal Bands, fronted by Arch Enemy it becomes harder to distingush BLack, from Death. But as i said before....CRADLE OF FILTH DEATH METAL, WHAT THE FLYING BE-JESUS **** IS WORNG WITH YOU PEOPLE!!!!!!!!I HAVE NEVER SEEN A DEATH METAL BAND USE SYNTH CHOURS, PIPE ORGANS, BELLS (HIGH AND LOW PICTHED), VIOLINS, ECT ECT THOUGH OUT THERE SONGS...this fits more black metal

angeldeath

08-21-2002, 05:16 PM

Obsolete: it doesnt matter if Greg can sing or not, cause im the Vocalist muahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Just Kiddin Greg, but still muhahahahahahahah

angeldeath

08-21-2002, 05:18 PM

and this makes the post have 1090 replys............more to come

xAzagthothx

08-21-2002, 05:32 PM

chris your a bastard lol.

I GOT NEW NILE CD YAAAAAAAAAAAAY

I DONT CARE WHAT YOU ALL SAY. MORBID ANGEL STILL RULE YOUR CHEESECAKE SLICES.

*pain killers r way very good*

xAzagthothx

08-21-2002, 10:58 PM

wow.

new nile=wow

you all must go get new nile because new nile=wow

coypu

08-22-2002, 03:50 AM

Originally posted by angeldeath
CRADLE OF FILTH DEATH METAL, WHAT THE FLYING BE-JESUS **** IS WORNG WITH YOU PEOPLE!!!!!!!!I HAVE NEVER SEEN A DEATH METAL BAND USE SYNTH CHOURS, PIPE ORGANS, BELLS (HIGH AND LOW PICTHED), VIOLINS, ECT ECT THOUGH OUT THERE SONGS...this fits more black metal

If you where refering to my post then I can say that it was a joke, anyone who knows me know that I truly hate hate CoF and doesn't even considering them to be black metal.

mutilator

08-22-2002, 05:00 AM

can someone please tell me where can i get all the DM mp3s now that AG was shut down? i was on vacation for a long time and i couldn't really follow on what p2p program you can find anything

i've tried getting the new Nile record but i can't yet. **** it! i'l have to wait a bit longer.
xAzagthothx how good is the new Nile record in comparisment to the Black Seeds?

coypu

08-22-2002, 06:03 AM

Mirc , #mp3_blackdeath

GertrudeMcCrack

08-22-2002, 06:34 AM

Any of you guys know where i can find a bass tab of Slit Your Guts? I need to learn it a bit sharpish for a college recording thing next Friday!

mutilator

08-22-2002, 07:03 AM

Originally posted by coypu
Mirc , #mp3_blackdeath
coypu how do you DL mp3s from there? do you need any special software or do you just have to write a command?

Samuel

08-22-2002, 09:40 AM

Originally posted by coypu
Mirc , #mp3_blackdeath

What is this? A Website or a program?

coypu

08-22-2002, 11:17 AM

Originally posted by GertrudeMcCrack
Any of you guys know where i can find a bass tab of Slit Your Guts? I need to learn it a bit sharpish for a college recording thing next Friday!

http://www.singularitymetaltab.net/tabs/cryptopsy_slit.txt

coypu how do you DL mp3s from there? do you need any special software or do you just have to write a command?

write @username , and you will get a list of his mp3 files. Then copy and paste like this :

!ImpaledCarcass Altar_-_Provoke_-_01_-_Cleaning_Day.mp3
!ImpaledCarcass Altar_-_Provoke_-_02_-_Route_666.mp3
!ImpaledCarcass Altar_-_Provoke_-_03_-_W.E.B..mp3
!ImpaledCarcass Altar_-_Provoke_-_04_-_Ode.mp3

then you are queued and the downloading will start once you are first in queue.

What is this? A Website or a program?

A program, www.mirc.com

xAzagthothx

08-22-2002, 11:36 AM

well...compared to black seeds....its still WOW lol. its a ****ing amazing album. the onlyl thing that i dont like about the album is the lack of a catchy element to each song...like the chant section at the end of "Black Seeds Of Vengeance" or the military snare roll in "Masturbating The War God" or the Super Mario 3 music intro from "Ramses Bringer Of War".

the cd still blows away everything. its ****ing incredible.

Terminal Spirit

08-22-2002, 08:32 PM

new nile=wow

New Cephalic Carnage=Wow
New Origin=Wow
New Nile=Wow

Thank you Relapse

mick7

08-23-2002, 01:36 AM

Other than that anyone heard The Wolves newie? Australian death metal at its finest!!!

Jondur

08-23-2002, 04:05 AM

Originally posted by xAzagthothx
or the Super Mario 3 music intro from "Ramses Bringer Of War".

You mean "Mars" from The Planets Suite by Holst? Was that used for Super Mario 3? Anyway it was a nice idea for Nile to use it in a metalised fashion but it didn't really work - maybe if they'd got an orchestra to do it because synthesised brass sounds are awful.

mutilator

08-23-2002, 05:37 AM

Originally posted by coypu
[B]

write @username , and you will get a list of his mp3 files. Then copy and paste like this :

!ImpaledCarcass Altar_-_Provoke_-_01_-_Cleaning_Day.mp3
!ImpaledCarcass Altar_-_Provoke_-_02_-_Route_666.mp3
!ImpaledCarcass Altar_-_Provoke_-_03_-_W.E.B..mp3
!ImpaledCarcass Altar_-_Provoke_-_04_-_Ode.mp3

then you are queued and the downloading will start once you are first in queue.

and all of this is done in the main window right? thanks for your help!

xAzagthothx

08-23-2002, 10:22 AM

i donno jondur i think ramses still sounds cool as ****. that is the song that got me hooked on nile.

heres an idea...lets all name songs that got us into what we like.

Got Into:

Metal In General: Hammer Smash Face by Cannibal Corpse...seeing them play it on Ace Ventura \m/

Guitar Playing: um...ehh...*cough*Kurt Cobain*cough*

Morbid Angel: Rapture....wow

Nile: Ramses Bringer Of War

Cannibal Corpse: Hammer Smash Face

Meshuggah: Choirs Of Devastation

Suffocation: Synthetically Revived

Dimmu Borgir: Entrance

Cryptopsy: Phobophile

well...im feeling lazy so thats all im gonna type out right now.

GertrudeMcCrack

08-23-2002, 10:26 AM

Originally posted by coypu

http://www.singularitymetaltab.net/tabs/cryptopsy_slit.txt

Cheers for that, i'll probably post the fills here when i figure them out!

Obsolete

08-23-2002, 11:00 AM

Metal in general: Obsolete (CD) - Fear Factory

Opeth - Dirge for November
Iced Earth - Dragon's Child
Iron Maiden - Revelations
In Flames - Colony
Dream Theater - Lie
Arch Enemy - Burning Angel
At The Gates - Cold
Children of Bodom - Everytime I Die
Darkest Hour - The Mark of the Judas
Dark Tranquility - The Same
Death - Bite the Pain
Meshuggah - Suffer in Truth
Nevermore - The River Dragon Has Come
Slayer - South of Heaven
Testament - Three Days in Darkness

Playing bass - Primus, Death, Testament, Opeth.

coypu

08-23-2002, 11:07 AM

Originally posted by xAzagthothx
i donno jondur i think ramses still sounds cool as ****. that is the song that got me hooked on nile.

heres an idea...lets all name songs that got us into what we like.

Got Into:

I really got into Death metal after hearing 'she was asking for it' by cannibal corpse. It was the first real death song I heard and it hooked me but the after I heard Inpropagation by Carcass I was completely hooked with no chance of turning back at all.

Getting into the technical **** : Atheist - Life, Suffocation - any song.

Other songs that where important for different reasons:

Meshuggah - Humiliative
Carcass - Exhume to consume + almost any song from the 3 first albums.
Gorguts - Orphans of sickness, with their flesh he'll create
Immolation - No jesus no beast
Cynic - Veil of maya

And the most important song for my bassplaying is actually : Carcass - Empatholigical Necroticism, the first song I learned by myself and it turned me on to bassplaying for real.

AntiPop356

08-23-2002, 04:47 PM

metal: Machine head and *gasp* Slipknot!! how shameful, lol ;)

(melodic) Death metal: Children of bodom, heard the song "Bed of Razors" and fell in love. And this forum thread helped a bit too

In Flames: Jotun, The Jester Race (songs)

At The Gates: With fear I kiss the burning darkness (album)

Dark Tranquillity: The Gallery (album)

Arch Enemy: all their old stuff, which is still several times better than the new stuff

those are the major ones

LordWorm

08-24-2002, 08:21 AM

Song that got me into metal-Fear Factory: Demanufacture

Morbid Angel: Dominate- still sounds brutal

Crytopsy: Phobophile

Suffocation: Pierced From Within

Immolation: Furthest From The Truth

Cannibal Corpse: ****ed With A Knife

Nile: Black seeds of vengeance

Entombed: Stranger Aeons-although anything past Clandestine is not death metal.

Carcass: Reek Of Putrefaction

Their are other bans but I cant think of them at the moment.

GertrudeMcCrack

08-24-2002, 04:41 PM

Well, for years i listened to Classic rock, and the occasional grunge band, then for no apparent reaosn, i decided to buy Sepultura's 'Chaos AD,' decided i liked it, and got:

Carcass: Heartwork
Obituary: World Demise
Machine Head: Burn My Eyes
Slayer: Divine Intervention
Pantera: Far Beyond Driven

In other words, anything heavy i could find in HMV. That's how it all started!

xAzagthothx

08-24-2002, 08:35 PM

let me reiterate my statement on how amazing Nile's "In Their Darkened Shrines" is....its just sooooooooooo incredible. it EASILY blows away their first 2. you all MUST go buy it.

mutilator

08-25-2002, 07:20 AM

xAzagthothx could you just stop saying that i'm going ****ing crazy cause i can't get it here yet!!! so it gets better when you hear it several times?

the song that really got me into DM is Hammer Smashed Face. that's the 1st DM song i've heard and i've been amazed by it. other important bands were Obituary, Deicide and Hypocrisy

Obsolete

08-25-2002, 12:10 PM

Another question for you guys. Which CD should I get from Dark Tranquility and Darkest Hour? I have 3 songs from The Mark of the Judas (DH) and I have 'The Same', 'The Gallery', 'Of Chaos and Eternal Sorrow'. My favorite is The Same, but the other are pretty good (the female vocalist was a bit odd, though). So, which CDs should I get? Thanks.

Oh, and a little side note. Has anyone ever ordered from Century Media's Mail Order? I just sent the thing in a few days ago to get the catalog, so when should that come in and how long does it take for them to send you the CDs?

slayerrules

08-25-2002, 04:03 PM

Any of you guys listen to Decapitated? I just got their cd Winds of Creation and its pretty ****in cool. They have alot of talent for their age and they write real cool stuff. If you haven't heard of them, download the song "The First ****ed" or "Human's Dust". They also do an awesome cover of "Mandatory Suicide".

GertrudeMcCrack

08-27-2002, 07:32 AM

^^^YES!!! I've been going on about them since the thread started! Check out their most recent album, Nihility. Not as good as Winds, but pretty awesome anyways!

slayerrules

08-27-2002, 09:51 AM

Originally posted by GertrudeMcCrack
^^^YES!!! I've been going on about them since the thread started! Check out their most recent album, Nihility. Not as good as Winds, but pretty awesome anyways!

Yeah, I'll probably get that sometime soon. I need to get the new Nile cd first though. :D

xAzagthothx

08-27-2002, 12:27 PM

Mutilator: yes, indeed, this is one of those rare gems that only gets better every time you listen to it. its been in my cd player now for over a week since i bought it. the only other album i can think of that is on par with this one...by just getting better and better each time you listen is Morbid Angel's "Formulas Fatal To The Flesh" after 4 years that album still owns everything else.

amazing ****.

Obsolete

08-27-2002, 12:30 PM

http://defuzion.net/forum/index.php?s=

Just thought you guys might be interested. I can't post this anywhere else on MX because a lot of spammers will come. Just thought some of you guys would be interested (and hopefully you'll join!). Later.

angeldeath

08-27-2002, 01:30 PM

NEW ANGELDEATH PAGE!!!!

http://www.angeldeath.net

you must all go visit it...and i sware if anyone boots me again ill kick all those computer nerds asses

TIMMY!!!

ps POST #1120....YAY!!!!

coypu

08-28-2002, 02:48 AM

I just heard a song from the upcomming Immolation album and it is safe to say that this is their best work ever. For thoose who have no idea who Immolation are you can say that they have dominated the dark death metal genre for over 13 years and as it seems they will continue to do so.

Get this song since it is the best I have heard this year:
Immolation - of Martyrs and Men (http://www.listenable.net/mp3/immolation-of_martyrs_and_men.mp3)

xAzagthothx

08-28-2002, 08:47 AM

Chris you still need to get the links and stuff working...i can send you the edited mp3 to put up on the page if you want. lemme know.

Obsolete

08-28-2002, 02:48 PM

Coypu, you need to come to the defuzion forums. We (I) really want you there.

coypu

08-28-2002, 02:50 PM

give me a link and I will give it a try.

xAzagthothx

08-28-2002, 03:16 PM

picked up Incantation's "Blasphemy" and Suffocations "Breeding The Spawn" today. Awesome cds.

coypu

08-29-2002, 03:34 AM

Breeding the spawn is probably their best work except for the horrible production but still suffocation is the **** and Incantation are always good too.

And Suffocation is talking about reuniting, read here for more info : http://www.roadrun.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=5669

LordWorm

08-29-2002, 03:40 AM

SWEET! :D

Obsolete

08-29-2002, 07:48 AM

Isn't Fear Factory getting back together? I heard they were kicking Dino out and letting Christian play guitar (blah!).

xAzagthothx

08-29-2002, 11:03 AM

SUFFOCATION REUNION?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? YES!!!!!!!!!

Obsolete, yes you are right. im the one who told you lol.

Obsolete

08-29-2002, 11:34 AM

Yeah yeah, but it wasn't on the web site last time I checked, though.

GertrudeMcCrack

08-29-2002, 11:40 AM

Originally posted by coypu
I just heard a song from the upcomming Immolation album and it is safe to say that this is their best work ever. For thoose who have no idea who Immolation are you can say that they have dominated the dark death metal genre for over 13 years and as it seems they will continue to do so.

Get this song since it is the best I have heard this year:
Immolation - of Martyrs and Men (http://www.listenable.net/mp3/immolation-of_martyrs_and_men.mp3) ****, that IS good!

xAzagthothx

08-29-2002, 10:08 PM

...cant...wait....for....Suffocation....reunion... ..GARRRRRRRRR

coypu

08-30-2002, 02:38 AM

The Suffocation reunion is good for all things but the fact that Chris Richards didn't want to join them. He is by far the best bassplayer that Suffocation ever had and I seriously doubt that Josh Barohn can even come close to Chris. And Suffocation with out Doug Cerrito? Suffocation have always been brilliant but without the 2 most important members I'm not sure that they can live up to their old stuff but I really really hope so!

cyberfella

08-30-2002, 05:42 AM

Has anyone heard of any of these bands?

Bal-Sagoth
Therion
Dying Fetus (You should have)
Blind Guardian
Elvenking
Return to the sabbat

They are all **** good, if u like that sorta thing (Any style of metal)

P@ ;0)

Jondur

08-30-2002, 07:54 AM

Let me guess... Are you going to Bloodstock seeing as 4 out of the 6 you've posted are playing? Yeah I've heard of them all bar Elvenking. Bal Sagoth are one of my favs, Dying Fetus blew me away at Wacken, Blind Guardian are not my sort of thing and Sabbat were ace - I've yet to see Return.

As for Suffocation - if I remember rightly, most of the members in the line up played on Effigy and IMO that's still their finest hour. Maybe it'll be great, maybe it won't but it's a good sign of the state of DM if bands like Suffocation are re-forming.

mick7

08-30-2002, 08:04 AM

Brujeria kicks all these bands outta t he water!!! lol j/k

metal rules!

xAzagthothx

08-30-2002, 11:55 AM

yeah Coypu i was thinking the same thing about Richards and Cerrito not being there. it will still be amazing to hear them play live though.

Hey everbody, my band has a rough song demo that i can send you all if you want to hear it.

leave you email addy's and i will send you the song. you can check out our page at www.angeldeath.net

so leave your email addresses and i will send you our song. yaay

LordWorm

08-30-2002, 01:08 PM

How ironic that I got "Pierced Form Within" at the same time as Suffocation decided to reunite.

coypu

08-30-2002, 02:40 PM

Jondur: I was actually never a fan of Effigy but anything they have done sofar have been excellent so hopefully it will turn out great again.

Hey LordWorm, I just wanted to tell you that you have excellent taste, I actually used to have a picture of Lord Worm in my avatar so you are not alone here liking the guy.

xAzagthoth, I'll check it out later in a few days when I get my 100mbit connection back.

The Depressed

08-30-2002, 02:49 PM

Elvenking are an Italian band, who are classed as 'pagan-metal'(whatever that means), but i havent heard them before, yet they're supposed to be good, but hey

has anyone else heard of EXTOL? now they are an amazing band, even though they are Christian. if anyone wants a song to download of theirs, look for 'Reflections Of A Broken Soul', which has some nuts guitar riffs.

EDIT: for xAzagthothx, my email is sykotikjester@hotmail.com

Obsolete

08-30-2002, 03:44 PM

Come on, guys... don't you want to go to
http://defuzion.net/forum/index.php?s=

It's a pretty kick *** place and it has less retards than this place does and it's never down. We already have a Death Metal thread and the Admin is awesome, too. We have Coypu! (haha). Well, thanks if you come... and, uhh thanks if you don't. :D

Prowler01

08-30-2002, 05:44 PM

Originally posted by cyberfella
Has anyone heard of any of these bands?

Bal-Sagoth
Therion
Dying Fetus (You should have)
Blind Guardian
Elvenking
Return to the sabbat

They are all **** good, if u like that sorta thing (Any style of metal)

P@ ;0)

blind guardian kicks ***

and yes.....goto the defuzion site

xAzagthothx

08-30-2002, 09:54 PM

nobody left email addresses.....

LEAVE YOUR ****ING EMAIL ADDYS!!!!!!!!!!!!! lol

Samuel

08-31-2002, 03:58 AM

SamuelGreen800@hotmail.com
I'd like to hear it.

coypu

08-31-2002, 06:15 AM

joba01@student.bth.se

mick7

08-31-2002, 08:06 AM

max_cavalera62@hotmail.com

The_Ibanez_Master

08-31-2002, 12:59 PM

i think this is the biggest thread ive ever seen. 1100+ replies!:eek:

TheHandOfone

08-31-2002, 02:27 PM

it wont be big till its at 10k.

BlackMooseops@hotmail.com

GertrudeMcCrack

08-31-2002, 04:00 PM

kingslug1000@hotmail.com

Carmackq

09-01-2002, 09:33 AM

I need some suggestions on Death Metal bands that sound like:

Carcass
Children Of Bodom
Arch Enemy
Kalmah

I'm not really into the "snare drum hit every .02 second/ heavy growl" death metal.

LordWorm

09-01-2002, 09:38 AM

Carmackq

09-01-2002, 09:42 AM

Ok, I'll check them out.

coypu

09-01-2002, 12:01 PM

Originally posted by Carmackq
I need some suggestions on Death Metal bands that sound like:

Carcass

I'm not really into the "snare drum hit every .02 second/ heavy growl" death metal.

Impaled
Exhumed
Quo Vadis

+ the 1000 carcass clones that are out there that I won't bother mentioning because they suck.

Carmackq

09-01-2002, 12:03 PM

Hello coypu

add me to your ICQ my # is 43171290

xAzagthothx

09-01-2002, 12:37 PM

aight you guys got the picture. for all you with hotmail, i dont know if you will get the emai b/c a lot of times i get a response bck saying that the file exceeds storage space or somehing. if thats the case, my AIM s/n is Satanicguitarist you can IM me and ill send you the file through there.

xAzagthothx

09-01-2002, 11:55 PM

keepin the post off the 2nd page....c'mon boys lets not get lazy!!

coypu

09-02-2002, 04:05 AM

xAzagththx: I just managed to get the song and it sound pretty well, there are a few things that came to mind when listening to it and some of the drumbeats wheren't that great and the bass could be abit more independant but overall a good start.

Jondur

09-02-2002, 04:15 AM

Originally posted by Carmackq
I need some suggestions on Death Metal bands that sound like:

Carcass
Children Of Bodom
Arch Enemy
Kalmah

I'm not really into the "snare drum hit every .02 second/ heavy growl" death metal.

You could also try:

Eucharist,
Dissection
Ominous
Armageddon
At the Gates

If you did as Lord Worm suggested and listened to those Entombed albums and like them; then you'd also like:

Dismember "Like and Everflowing Stream"
Grave "Into the Grave"
Asphyx "Last one on Earth"

Obsolete

09-02-2002, 10:22 AM

Carmackq, try some Darkest Hour, Death, or At The Gates. Those are some pretty good bands, you'll probably like them.

And, you may also like Opeth. Their songs are long, but entertaining all the way through.

xAzagthothx

09-02-2002, 12:23 PM

Thanks a lot for the comments coypu.

coypu

09-03-2002, 01:05 AM

We are back on second page again :(

Hmm, who is everyones favorite bassplayer in death metal? I like Tony Choy most but there are many greats so secondly I'll go with Roger Patterson & Chris Richards. Let's try and keep this thread where it belongs.

Jondur

09-03-2002, 03:30 AM

Oooh. I don't really know much about bass players but those that stand out for me are Steve DiGiorgio - especially on Autopsy "Severed Survival", check that clanky bass sound! And also the bass player for Acid Death (Greek Prog/Death). Apart from that I wouldn't have a clue!

LordWorm

09-03-2002, 04:08 AM

I dont know much about bass either but one of my favourites is Eric Langlois from Cryptopsy, his bass playing makes the song more intesesting, especially on Slit your guts.

mick7

09-03-2002, 06:01 AM

Mine is Paulo. Jr

chezzers

09-03-2002, 06:21 AM

I don't mind the sound of death metal too much, but what really turns we off is the morbid subject matters and song titles, like "Slit Your Guts". It just doesn't seem that artistic to me, and I think lyrics are the most important part of a song.

The Depressed

09-03-2002, 07:15 AM

Originally posted by chezzers
I don't mind the sound of death metal too much, but what really turns we off is the morbid subject matters and song titles, like "Slit Your Guts". It just doesn't seem that artistic to me, and I think lyrics are the most important part of a song.

well if the lyrics were about love and happiness, then it would be called 'love metal', which it isnt. and to be honest, a lot of death metal songs aren't actually about death, ie. 'Drugged Unholy' by The Crown, a lot of EXTOL songs, and 'Dawn Of The Angry by Morbid Angel. and how are lyrics the most important parts of a song? 'Cold Demons' by Vader is an excellent song, and it only has about 15 lines of lyrics(or less), and most Opeth instrumentals are masterpieces

coypu

09-03-2002, 07:23 AM

DrPepper

09-03-2002, 07:41 AM

GertrudeMcCrack

09-03-2002, 10:40 AM

Originally posted by Carmackq
I need some suggestions on Death Metal bands that sound like:

Carcass

I'm not really into the "snare drum hit every .02 second" death metal. ;)

xAzagthothx

09-03-2002, 10:56 AM

Everybody check this out:

http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/461/xangeldeathx.html

download the song biatches.

Favorite death metal bass player? Id go with Dave Vincent and Steve Tucker because of Morbid Angel...and then Chris Richards from Suffocation. that guy just ****in tears it up.

Carmackq

09-03-2002, 11:13 AM

McCrack, I'm talking about bands like Origin,Cephalic Carnage and many others that I can't think of at the moment.

I don't consider Carcass's drumming that fast and repetitive.

LordWorm

09-03-2002, 12:53 PM

Originally posted by Carmackq
McCrack, I'm talking about bands like Origin,Cephalic Carnage and many others that I can't think of at the moment.

I don't consider Carcass's drumming that fast and repetitive.

Their drumming definately wasn't all that fast on Necrotisism and Heartwork by it definately was on reek and symphonies.

coypu

09-03-2002, 01:16 PM

As far as I know Ken Owen only used one bassdrum so you can't really call him a speed monster of todays kind but still he was a fast drummer but that kindof belongs to the genre..

GertrudeMcCrack

09-03-2002, 02:57 PM

Originally posted by Carmackq
McCrack, I'm talking about bands like Origin,Cephalic Carnage and many others that I can't think of at the moment.

I don't consider Carcass's drumming that fast and repetitive. Yeah, sorry, i knew what you meant, that kind of repetitive machine-type stuff. It just looked kind of funny when i read it/

xAzagthothx

09-03-2002, 08:29 PM

i saw Origin live....****ing WOW. that band is so amazing. John Longstreth has to be one of the top 5 drummers ever...up there with Pete Sandoval, Derek Roddy, Tony Laureano, and Doug Bohn.

Jondur

09-04-2002, 03:19 AM

Originally posted by coypu
As far as I know Ken Owen only used one bassdrum so you can't really call him a speed monster of todays kind but still he was a fast drummer but that kindof belongs to the genre..

He had two kicks - check the intro to Corporeal Jigsore Quandary - not fast but still too fast for a single kick.

LordWorm

09-04-2002, 04:06 AM

Yeah, he definately used two as I observed on the live video of Tools of the trade I got on an earache dvd.

chezzers

09-04-2002, 08:05 AM

Originally posted by The Depressed

well if the lyrics were about love and happiness, then it would be called 'love metal', which it isnt. and to be honest, a lot of death metal songs aren't actually about death, ie. 'Drugged Unholy' by The Crown, a lot of EXTOL songs, and 'Dawn Of The Angry by Morbid Angel. and how are lyrics the most important parts of a song? 'Cold Demons' by Vader is an excellent song, and it only has about 15 lines of lyrics(or less), and most Opeth instrumentals are masterpieces

oh no i totally agree. i mean i know the music and lyrics are generally inseperable, but i just feel that bands could get the gloomy sad death feeling across to listeners without having to have songs like "slit your guts" that's all. and it's not as if it really bothers me that much. i was just making a comment in passing. i don't really listen to death metal coz from what i have heard, although the music can be quite emotive, I think the lyrics spoil the talented muscians work. are there any death metal bands who don't have lyrics. i'd be interested in hearing them.

chezzers

09-04-2002, 08:08 AM

Originally posted by The Depressed

well if the lyrics were about love and happiness, then it would be called 'love metal', which it isnt. and to be honest, a lot of death metal songs aren't actually about death, ie. 'Drugged Unholy' by The Crown, a lot of EXTOL songs, and 'Dawn Of The Angry by Morbid Angel. and how are lyrics the most important parts of a song? 'Cold Demons' by Vader is an excellent song, and it only has about 15 lines of lyrics(or less), and most Opeth instrumentals are masterpieces

lyrics are the most important part of a song because that is what the listener relates to the most. i don't think this can be disputed too much, and although i'm sure you can come up with some exceptions, for the most part i think it is true. after all, a "song" is "sung" by a "singer" and for the singer to sing something there have to be words. he/she can't sing a guitar solo.

chezzers

09-04-2002, 08:11 AM

Originally posted by coypu

That is as smart as saying "I only listen to Immolation for the great artwork"... You really should listen to the music and if you don't like the lyrics then so what??

ok i probably used the wrong word when i said artistic, but that wasn't my point anyway. what i was saying was that i don't like the lyrics too much (from what i have heard, but if you recommend something i'd be very willing to give it a try) and i feel they are the most crucial part of a musical composition for the most part. Again its what I personally realte to the most, as I'm sure most people do) when I hear a song.

chezzers

09-04-2002, 08:15 AM

Originally posted by DrPepper

Did you understand the lyrics of i.e. "Slit your guts" by listening to the song?

I guess:* no.

*Punctuation.

no ive never heard the song, but only took it as an example because it was posted above and it illustrated my point perfectly... that i'm put off by the morbid nature of the lyrics. the beauty of the music can undoubtedly be heard, but i can't say i love death metal because i don't like the lyrics of the songs that i have heard. that's all i am saying. i didn't really think it was that much of a controversial comment.

DrPepper

09-04-2002, 08:28 AM

You can't know the nature of the lyrics if you base them on the title of the song.

chezzers

09-04-2002, 08:47 AM

Originally posted by DrPepper
You can't know the nature of the lyrics if you base them on the title of the song.

that's true, and i haven't heard "slit your guts" so i guess that can be taken to be weakness in my argument if you look at it one way. However, I only used it as an example because it was handily placed just above my first reply to this thread. My point was that the songs I have heard are morbid in terms of their lyrics. It's just that I inferred that the lyrics of "Slit Your Guts" would be in line with the title and therefore equally morbid.

coypu

09-04-2002, 09:59 AM

Pardon, please, the narrow
Confinement of your limbs;
Unfortunately, it's necessary
For your correction;
Shriek to your heart's
Content, if you wish;
I promise you pain and
Nightmares, in that sequence.

Permit me to introduce you to
"Tuesday"...
I favor her, this pretty blade
So tall and fine;
Hatred and violence are not
Our ways, but firm we are;
Squirming is useless, so is this
Colon, cry for me.

Svelte is implement,
Its gentle caress lets you Bleed;
its subtle curvature
Dancing, deeply slit your guts.

It's for your own good;
You need guidance, I provide;
What is your pleasure? This is
Mine; A welcome change!

...how can you not like lyrics like this?

LordWorm

09-04-2002, 10:00 AM

Hear are the lyrics to "Slit you guts", I hope this proves something....

Pardon, please, the narrow
Confinement of your limbs;
Unfortunately, it's necessary
For your correction;
Shriek to your heart's
Content, if you wish;
I promise you pain and
Nightmares, in that sequence.

Permit me to introduce you to
"Tuesday"...
I favor her, this pretty blade
So tall and fine;
Hatred and violence are not
Our ways, but firm we are;
Squirming is useless, so is this
Colon, cry for me.

Svelte is implement,
Its gentle caress lets you Bleed;
its subtle curvature
Dancing, deeply slit your guts.

It's for your own good;
You need guidance, I provide;
What is your pleasure? This is
Mine; A welcome change!

chezzers

09-04-2002, 10:10 AM

Originally posted by chezzers

that's true, and i haven't heard "slit your guts" so i guess that can be taken to be weakness in my argument if you look at it one way. However, I only used it as an example because it was handily placed just above my first reply to this thread. My point was that the songs I have heard are morbid in terms of their lyrics. It's just that I inferred that the lyrics of "Slit Your Guts" would be in line with the title and therefore equally morbid.

the lyrics are very ok as I imagined they would be, but as I keep saying it is the nature of the lyrics, the morbidness, that I don't like. "I promise you pain and nightmares" "What is your pleasure..This is mine". It's sick. The lyrics are ok, but the songwriting (and it is different to the lyrics) is very poor in my opinion. What the **** is the point in the song? You just allowed me to prove my point by giving me the lyrics.

chezzers

09-04-2002, 10:11 AM

musicians are partly there to entertain, and I don't find someone saying he is going to slit someone else's bowels open very entertaining. I'm not Hannibal Lector.

coypu

09-04-2002, 10:17 AM

Originally posted by chezzers
musicians are partly there to entertain, and I don't find someone saying he is going to slit someone else's bowels open very entertaining. I'm not Hannibal Lector.

It is like watching a good horror movie, it is fun and it doesn't make you a psycho either.

the lyrics are very ok as I imagined they would be, but as I keep saying it is the nature of the lyrics, the morbidness, that I don't like. "I promise you pain and nightmares" "What is your pleasure..This is mine". It's sick. The lyrics are ok, but the songwriting (and it is different to the lyrics) is very poor in my opinion. What the **** is the point in the song? You just allowed me to prove my point by giving me the lyrics.

You can dislike the lyrics if you want but I find Lord Worms lyrics brilliant but that is my opinion. The songwriting on the other hand is superb when it comes to cryptopsy, I really think that you should listen to the music before making comments on the songwriting!!! You might even call Cynic untechnical just because of the "dangerous" name but that would be as far from the truth as you are with cryptopsy!

Name 5 bands that you actually have heard that is death metal, i would be suprised if you actually have heard a good one yet.

LordWorm

09-04-2002, 10:21 AM

If you dont like the lyrics then thats fine, but dont keep ****in moaning to us about it. This is a thread for death metal fans so if you arnt a death metal fan then you may as well **** off!

chezzers

09-04-2002, 10:26 AM

i probably couldn't but you're taking this way out of proportion. in the first instance i just said that I found the music to be good, but that I couldn't listen to the whole thing for very long because i think lyrics are the most important part of a composition and I don't find the lyrics of Death Metal bands very appealing. Therefore I haven't formed an opinion on death metal bands from things that I haven't heard and have just guessed about. I accept that I made an assertion about "Slit Your Guts" but the posting of the lyrics just backed my thoughts up. Again it's just another song that wouldn't appeal to me. Again just my opinion. I also have to add that I find it quite disturbing that you find pleasure from such songs. You say it is just like watching a horror movie (not really coz people watch horror movies to be scared not simply to see blood and guts) If that is what gets you excited when you watch a horror film then I would have tosay that you are psycho, and that they should lock u up sometime soon before some more school kids get murdered.

chezzers

09-04-2002, 10:29 AM

Originally posted by LordWorm
If you dont like the lyrics then thats fine, but dont keep ****in moaning to us about it. This is a thread for death metal fans so if you arnt a death metal fan then you may as well **** off!

the threads that go up here are for people who are interested in music to read and comment on if they wish. if you post something on the internet you've gotta be prepared to take some crtitcism at times. But don't get defensive when I simply said initially (and again it was just a passing comment) that I liked the music but not the lyrics and therefore that I didn't like the overall composition.

coypu

09-04-2002, 10:35 AM

Originally posted by chezzers
i probably couldn't but you're taking this way out of proportion. in the first instance i just said that I found the music to be good, but that I couldn't listen to the whole thing for very long because i think lyrics are the most important part of a composition and I don't find the lyrics of Death Metal bands very appealing. Therefore I haven't formed an opinion on death metal bands from things that I haven't heard and have just guessed about. I accept that I made an assertion about "Slit Your Guts" but the posting of the lyrics just backed my thoughts up. Again it's just another song that wouldn't appeal to me. Again just my opinion. I also have to add that I find it quite disturbing that you find pleasure from such songs. You say it is just like watching a horror movie (not really coz people watch horror movies to be scared not simply to see blood and guts) If that is what gets you excited when you watch a horror film then I would have tosay that you are psycho, and that they should lock u up sometime soon before some more school kids get murdered.

You are making some really bad generalization like "the lyrics of Death Metal bands", you can't really judge all bands like that. There are bands who have lyrics that maybe appeal abit more to you that you haven't discovered yet. But speaking of standard death lyrics, you must realise that it would sound incredbly stupid if Suffocation sang songs about love and harmony while punding out some of the most brutal music ever, it just wouldn't work. And no I am not a psycho for enjoying a horror movie, you should not beleive in that nonsense that medie at times tries to tell you (like the marilyn manson **** for example).

Here are some death metal lyrics that aren't like thoose you have read sofar :

An Incarnation's Dream

[Lyrics: Schaefer]
[Music : Atheist]

It all seems so strange
The mutes the bums
The dogs with mange, the poor,
Doesn't anybody help themselves anymore
I guess not
Barefoot pregnant women
Little kids with snot on their face
A land of plenty, a dynasty of disgrace !
I'll manifest for you
Careening on the outer limits of reality
My mission to create a better galaxy
I must not fail them now,
I look inside to see that it's clear
Living life is just not enough
You must persevere
Please grab hold
Not to things that are bought
But to things that cannot be sold,
Then you'll see
You're released by trial and error
The world's prophecy is to learn
A candle lit from the bottom
Will soon start to burn
Don't dignify, a false spy in the sky
Re-route your path
With the blink of an eye

Walking around with a mind of your own
With a glance to the past
You can see we have grown
How much we have grown

It's been my dream
To enter the stream
To let carnates know
What life really means
If one understands
That's all I can ask
Life to you
is such a wretched task !

Sentiment

Cosmic mother awaken us in
Thine impartial love for all
Bless us that we be free from
The sway of greed and delusion
Inspire us to build a new world
One in which famine, disease and ignorance
Will be only memories of a dismal past

[CHORUS]
Creative mother arouse us to know
That we be not lost in the sands
Open our eyes

Creative mother arouse us to know
Inspire us to build a new world
Since forever we've yearned to
Quench what's never fulfilling
Lost endeavors found in a stilled
Mind if we be willing

...etc, as you see there are so many different lyric types and you should not be so close minded.

chezzers

09-04-2002, 01:05 PM

yeah i know being narrow-minded is a crime, but it's hard to avoid doing sometimes. i mean ive listened to quite a lot of death metal, i don't know what exactly, some of my mates are into it, and everything ive heard seemed really morbid. i understand that death metal bands can't sing about love, but they could sing about death without the graphic details by using imagery or whatever. i know there will be plently of songs in which this is done, such as those which u posted, and which i really appreciate. i'm gonna check em out when i get a chance cos they seemed pretty good. thanks a lot. and yeah i knew all along that there might be bands whose lyrics appealed to me, but the longer it went without me hearing one, the less likely i thought it would be that one/some existed. but thanks for pointing me in the right direction. but i have to say i'm still pretty worried about you if its only the blood and guts which gets you going when you're watching horror movies. only kiddin'.

The Depressed

09-04-2002, 03:01 PM

Originally posted by coypu

It is like watching a good horror movie, it is fun and it doesn't make you a psycho either.

dam_n straight. do you (chezzers) really think that all death metal bands take themselves seriously? come on, if Cannibal Corpse acted out all of their lyrics in real life, they would be:

a) locked up in an institution,
b) on death row
c) a bit idiotic, really :D
d) all three of the above

and, if i'm not mistaken, they don't. :eek:

Originally posted by chezzers

i understand that death metal bands can't sing about love

not true. both EXTOL and Cannibal Corpse do, just in different formats (EXTOL are trying to find love, and Cannibal Corpse are on about sex[those who know some of their songs will know what i'm talking about], which is related to love), and don't sing like gareth gates

coypu

09-04-2002, 03:21 PM

Originally posted by chezzers
yeah i know being narrow-minded is a crime, but it's hard to avoid doing sometimes. i mean ive listened to quite a lot of death metal, i don't know what exactly, some of my mates are into it, and everything ive heard seemed really morbid. i understand that death metal bands can't sing about love, but they could sing about death without the graphic details by using imagery or whatever. i know there will be plently of songs in which this is done, such as those which u posted, and which i really appreciate. i'm gonna check em out when i get a chance cos they seemed pretty good. thanks a lot. and yeah i knew all along that there might be bands whose lyrics appealed to me, but the longer it went without me hearing one, the less likely i thought it would be that one/some existed. but thanks for pointing me in the right direction. but i have to say i'm still pretty worried about you if its only the blood and guts which gets you going when you're watching horror movies. only kiddin'.

Atleast you admit your mistakes, that is very good!

So since you might have missed out on a whole genre of great music let me know if you ever want anysongs from any bands, I would be glad to provide them for you.

TheHandOfone

09-04-2002, 03:32 PM

death even has some lyrics that arent so kill maim blood die..

if your looking for a a good band ...that arent as brutal and abrasive with lyrics then check out a few death albums..the older albums are prolly to much for a weak lad like yourself ....but the last 4 or so albums were pretty tame lyric wise

Obsolete

09-04-2002, 05:23 PM

Read the lyrics for Opeth. I think they're incredibly creative and very good.

The Leper Affinity

We entered Winter once again
Naked, freezing from my breath
Neath the lid all limbs tucked away
This coffin is your abode from now
and onwards
Your body is mine to avail
Such a tragic sight you are
Slave under my creed
Spurring me with those tears
I am beyond death
Midst a dreaming affinity
Saving strength now, faint whispers
Come erotic communion in its splendour
Fever mirrored ghosts
Night time consolation, cross the line
Draw murder into art
Sleep inside through days
In the wake of this relief
Shivering, longing for more
Insanity at it's peak
Love me to my death
Lost are days of Spring
You sighted and let me in
Keep the beast inside
Shackled within my hide
Screaming out too late
Losing to my hate
Grew together with your skin
And paced the trails of sin
Your gaze covered with virgin snow
Rigid features
It's the shallow deeds who is to blame
Deafening shrieks pierced the night
A step from oblivion
Moving into the dim lights
Hiding within a reverie
It was worth it for the wait alone

Carmackq

09-04-2002, 07:04 PM

What's ORIGIN's offical web page address?

chezzers

09-04-2002, 08:05 PM

Originally posted by Obsolete
Read the lyrics for Opeth. I think they're incredibly creative and very good.

The Leper Affinity

We entered Winter once again
Naked, freezing from my breath
Neath the lid all limbs tucked away
This coffin is your abode from now
and onwards
Your body is mine to avail
Such a tragic sight you are
Slave under my creed
Spurring me with those tears
I am beyond death
Midst a dreaming affinity
Saving strength now, faint whispers
Come erotic communion in its splendour
Fever mirrored ghosts
Night time consolation, cross the line
Draw murder into art
Sleep inside through days
In the wake of this relief
Shivering, longing for more
Insanity at it's peak
Love me to my death
Lost are days of Spring
You sighted and let me in
Keep the beast inside
Shackled within my hide
Screaming out too late
Losing to my hate
Grew together with your skin
And paced the trails of sin
Your gaze covered with virgin snow
Rigid features
It's the shallow deeds who is to blame
Deafening shrieks pierced the night
A step from oblivion
Moving into the dim lights
Hiding within a reverie
It was worth it for the wait alone

i see that it's well-written but there's nothing special about it. i mean i wrote stuff like that in english poetry four or five years ago. the lyrics aren't clever and certainly don't make you think about stuff, like the lyrics of the likes of lennon/mccartney, curtis, waters, rose and the like.