any other death heads?

[ninjamonkey]

double post :eek:

[xizoesira]

Man, that sucks. If my comp ever crashes and I lose my stuff, I will die. Literally. All my music will be gone and I will lose all my own compositions/riffs. It's unfortunate that my life is kept in and connected to this machine. :upset:


Luckily, me and my friend had exchanged our files music that month, so the bulk of my library was kept intact and I got it back from him. I just lost what I had downloaded in the month after, a long with a lot of pictures and stuff, which were a greater loss than the music.

I know what you mean, though - I've got a lot of writing and art on this computer as well as a lot of new music. If it crashes I'm plum screwed.

[bassaholica2004]

Also, has anyone heard of a band called Hexxed? Thier pretty cool. I think more people are going to be hearing about them soon because they are supporting Suffocation on their tour. The musicianship is amazing, the guitarist has great eastern-sounding leads. I think its kinda funny when the supporting band is better than the main band.

[Dood]

brujeria

[Bartender]

Just the one?

[LordDargon]

Ah yes, the "sh.it-tipped dildo" of Mayhem legend. I forgot about that one. I heard Varg found it in the guy's closet, not his drawers. Either way why was he snooping around in his house? That is one messed-up dude I tells ya.

[Bartender]

I think in Vargsmal he claims it was Snorre that found it, not himself.

[superpeer]

On a little aside... the new Kreator kicks serious ***.

Kreator is touring with Dark Tranquillity. :D

[MorduM]

im having problems storing all my music. I dont want to get rid of anything, and i dont have room for more..

Sinners Bleed - Invisible Knowledge , this song is ****ing good. thats all

[ninjamonkey]

im having problems storing all my music. I dont want to get rid of anything, and i dont have room for more..

Sinners Bleed - Invisible Knowledge , this song is ****ing good. thats all
Put the mp3s on CD?

Thats what I did. I ran out of space, so I put the mp3s that I never listened to or didnt like onto CD
Then I deleted those mp3s formt he harddrive.

I don't have to worry about nay of that anymore though because I got an additional hard drive.

[LordDargon]

Yes, From Womb To Tomb is amazing! I just got it the other day.

Anyways, I am having the same problem MorduM, I downloaded a program called "CDex" (it's freeware, a google search will find it for you) and I am re-compressing everything on my hard drive to 128 kbps VBR. It is good quality and a 4-minute mp3 will take about 3.4 megs.

[bassaholica2004]

OK, I'm going to the store soon. Its a big store, Hastings, so its not gonna have all the underground stuff. So can anyone recomend me some good mainstream-ish bands? I was thinking of getting the Emperor DVD, buts its $22, so I dunno.

[superpeer]

You could get Opeth or At the Gates or In flames.

They should have that. :eek:

[Corporal Compendia]

The easy solution is.. Stop downloading EVERYTHING! Or at least delete some of it you cyber pack-rats! :p

bassaholica, I say get the new Pig Destroyer. Terrifyer... They should have that...every store around here has it...so, it would make sense that that store has it.

[bassaholica2004]

You could get Opeth or At the Gates or In flames.

They should have that. :eek:

Eh, I don't really like AtG or In Flames much anymore. I've never heard Opeth, though. I've heard they're progressive, which is a +, but I've also heard they sing about love and stuff. What kind of music fits them closest? I mean, would a brutal death-head like em, or a melodeath guy like em, or what?

Oh, and that Pig Destroyer sounds tempting. I've been meaning to get into some grind.

[superpeer]

I don't know. Opeth is fairly slow most of the times, distorted riffs and growling are combined with acoustic passages and clean singing. A lot of people like them, but I don't know.

New Darkthrone maybe? If you're in to black metal.

[bassaholica2004]

Yeah, Darkthrone sounds pretty good. I thought they broke up?
Anyway, I don't really like clean singing in DM. It kinda ruins the mood for me. I dunno, I'll see what they have. Most of the time they don't have anything good, but sometimes I'll find something. Behind 4 full rows of Good Charlette I found a "used" Suffocation album for only $8 last time, so maybe I'll get lucky. :)

[Toozey]

David says:
mithras win
David says:
all other bands are crap

[sensitiveorgan00]

Any Velvet Cacoon fans? They're in an organization called ELF. :lol:
However, the music is awesome.

[bassaholica2004]

OK, I'm back. What I found was a Liquid Tension Experiment-2 album, used, for $6. I got that then I found a Napalm Death-John Peel Sessions, used, for $5. Then, I saw the Monsters of Metal DVD, new, for $23. Now, I had $27, and I was at a dillema. In the end, I chose the DVD.

Its a 2 disc set that has 49 bands on it. The biggest names on it are Morbid Angel (doing Immortal Rites!!!!!), Dimmu Borgir (haven't really heard them), Soilwork, In Flames, Iron Maiden, Cradle of Filth (ewww), Emperor, Meshuggah, Children of Bodom, Cathedral, The Gathering, Kreator, and Carcass. There's lots more bands, but I haven't heard of most of them. I'll try to review it later.

[Per Ardua Ad Astra]

Any Velvet Cacoon fans? They're in an organization called ELF.
However, the music is awesome.


Ecofascism \m/

They do own though.

[Per Ardua Ad Astra]

For Nargaroth Fans, does anyone hear the resemblance between Nargaroth's 'Pisen pro Satana' and Dream Theater's 'A change of Seasons.' The opening guitar riffs are exactly the same.

[Bartender]

OK, I'm back. What I found was a Liquid Tension Experiment-2 album, used, for $6. I got that then I found a Napalm Death-John Peel Sessions, used, for $5. Then, I saw the Monsters of Metal DVD, new, for $23. Now, I had $27, and I was at a dillema. In the end, I chose the DVD.

Its a 2 disc set that has 49 bands on it. The biggest names on it are Morbid Angel (doing Immortal Rites!!!!!), Dimmu Borgir (haven't really heard them), Soilwork, In Flames, Iron Maiden, Cradle of Filth (ewww), Emperor, Meshuggah, Children of Bodom, Cathedral, The Gathering, Kreator, and Carcass. There's lots more bands, but I haven't heard of most of them. I'll try to review it later.

I've got that DVD. It's got 50 regular videos on it, then three live videos in the bonus material (Destruction, Hypocrisy and Kataklysm). It's good, overall. 7th video on the first disc (The Farmer Boys) is surprisingly good, and the video itself is almost too cool.

There's a 2nd edition out, too, with another 50 videos on. I haven't got it though.

[bassaholica2004]

Cool. I think its pretty good, a lot of the bands are Power Metal, which I don't really like, but a lot of the bands are pretty cool. I was surprised by bands like Strapping Young Lad, Kataklysm, and Benediction.

The Emperor video is badass. My favorite, though, is Morbid Angel's Immortal Rites. Watching that video live gets me so pumped up, I can't wait till I start playing live. I'm learning to sing like Vincent too, so that'll be cool.

[Cardboard Headgear]

I've got that DVD. It's got 50 regular videos on it, then three live videos in the bonus material (Destruction, Hypocrisy and Kataklysm). It's good, overall. 7th video on the first disc (The Farmer Boys) is surprisingly good, and the video itself is almost too cool.

There's a 2nd edition out, too, with another 50 videos on. I haven't got it though.
Really? You like that song? Granted, the video is pretty cool (Jesus yelling at you telling you you're gunna "Die big time" is awesome), and that first riff is pretty nifty, but I find it's garbage once he starts 'singing'. And there's a 3rd one that just came out actually, it's got a live video of Toxic Waltz, but it's slowed down and sounds pretty rediculous.

NP: Frameshift - Off The Ground *dances*

[Jondur]

Anyone heard of a band called Scald? Their from the UK.... their pretty cool. On M-A their listed as "Extreme Avant-Garde Progressive Sludge/Doom/Grind" You can download some tracks on their site. Their...different. Good but weird.

Aye I know them. They're from Northern Ireland. To me they sound like a mix of grind and Neurosis. Excellent band though. The lyrics are crazy and they have some great atmosphere.

I've not got the album but I have both the Nematoid demos.

[lilpete86]

Hey jondur man, sorry to keep going on about it but have you posted those cd's yet?

[Bartender]

Really? You like that song? Granted, the video is pretty cool (Jesus yelling at you telling you you're gunna "Die big time" is awesome), and that first riff is pretty nifty, but I find it's garbage once he starts 'singing'. And there's a 3rd one that just came out actually, it's got a live video of Toxic Waltz, but it's slowed down and sounds pretty rediculous.



I just really like the video, and yeah, the first riff is good. At first, I also thought it was awful after that point, but I kinda got used to it. It's still not amazing, but not as bad as I thought it was. And the video (the start especially) is great.

[LordDargon]

David says:
mithras win
David says:
all other bands are crap


I never said any of that :eek:

[Jondur]

Hey jondur man, sorry to keep going on about it but have you posted those cd's yet?

When are you finishing at uni? I'm hoping to go to the Post office tomorrow but it's not always possible (Post office is miles away and always really busy and I don't usually have time for lunch).

[LordDargon]

Hey, while you're online, what do you think of Gigantic Brain jondur? I like it, I'm gonna do a review of Our Bovine Destroyers.

[Jondur]

I literally have no idea what you're talking about! Is that a concept album about killer cows? The mind boggles......

[LordDargon]

Sorry, I thought you mentioned it once. It's a grind band... the album is about 10 minutes long. You can see about it in my review :)

[Jondur]

ok - Apart from maybe Nasum, I don't really pay much attention to modern grind. I'd far rather stick Holocaust in your Head on.

[MorduM]

If i burned some of the mp3s on cd's, it would take too many.. i have about 60gb of music.. and it would be a bit hard to listen to them on cds

hmm. alot of what i have is over 192 kbps, some are 320... if i change them to 128, i'll have room for more.. :thumb:

I have an additional harddrive too, ok i have two. a 100gb one, and a 320gb one. but guess what. the 100gb one is full of all my crap, and the 320 i cant use. its not mine, and theres no space..

[LordDargon]

best album title ever = Phobia - Grind Your ****ing Head In


EDIT: 60 gigs of music?!?!? What is your slsk! i MUST RAPE YOUR FILEAS

[Bartender]

You could just buy things.

[MorduM]

i dont have soulseek. I use a mac, and i havent figured out how soulseek works on a mac..it does, that i do know.

60gb i guess is because of the bit rates..

[Toozey]

I never said any of that :eek:

I did though :wave:

[Per Ardua Ad Astra]

For Nargaroth Fans, does anyone hear the resemblance between Nargaroth's 'Pisen pro Satana' and Dream Theater's 'A change of Seasons.' The opening guitar riffs are exactly the same.

Ahem.

[ninjamonkey]

60 gigs is a lot. I bet theres albums on there you don't listen to THAT MUCH.

[beyondthecircle]

i rescently saw Gwar and Dying Fetus at my local club, it ****ing ruled. gwar puts on a kickass show and dying fetus is the most intense death metal band i've heard in a long time. check em out...

[Ihsahn]

Ahem.


It's kinda similar, but the original version of Pisen Pro Satana was done by Root around 1990, two years (i think) before A Change of Seasons was released... perhaps Dream Theater was influenced a bit by Root, eh?


...probably not.

[King]

this thread should really be stickied

[Per Ardua Ad Astra]

It doesn't need to be stickied, it's got such a cult following that a sticky would be pointless.

Thanks for the explanation, Ihsahn.

[Corporal Compendia]

i rescently saw Gwar and Dying Fetus at my local club, it ****ing ruled. gwar puts on a kickass show and dying fetus is the most intense death metal band i've heard in a long time. check em out...

I saw them both in Toronto well... GWAR was fawkin' great. I laughed my *** off when they killed Ahnold.

[Cardboard Headgear]

this thread should really be stickied
What, and sell out? :lol:

[Jondur]

The new Nasum is really very good if you haven't heard it yet. Excellent band possibly the only classic grind since Need to Control.

[lilpete86]

When are you finishing at uni? I'm hoping to go to the Post office tomorrow but it's not always possible (Post office is miles away and always really busy and I don't usually have time for lunch).


Mid december

[LordDargon]

Behexen anyone? Been meaning to get "By The Blessing of Satan" for a while on account of the cool/silly title, finally got it. Grim, necro, and really good.

What happened to Beelzebloke? He just dissapeared... :(

[lilpete86]

From what i've heard of behexen I quite liked.

[SilentNightBodomNight]

Im more into the melodic side...

Opeth
In flames
Children of Bodom
Carcass
At the Gates
Slayer
90's Fear factory
The haunted
Arch enemy
Usurper
Vader
Avantasia
Darkane
Meshuggah
Dark tranquility
Ackercoke
Entombed

And so on...
Red Harvest

[XoListenen]

Behexen anyone?

I have some of thier stuff. "fist of the satanist" is a great track.

[MorduM]

Behexen?

Yes, please!

[LordDargon]

My Gigantic Brain review is completed.

http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=5524747#post5524747

[XoListenen]

Anyone seeing Deicide and Arkhon Infaustus tour the UK soon? I am seeing them on the 5th in Bristol. I hope its a good show, can't wait.

[sensitiveorgan00]

I got Behemoth - Zos Kia Cultus used today at FYE, along with Iced Earth - Night of the Stormrider, which is used as well. I'm going to listen to Behemoth now. :cool:

[xizoesira]

Funny you should mention Behemoth!

NP ~ Behemoth - The Reign ov Shemsu-Hor \m/

[Sickidd]

These are the bands I like:

-Alexisonfire
-Alice In Chains
-Children Of Bodom
-Darkest Hour
-Denis Leary
-Dimmu Borgir
-Godsmack
-Guns 'n Roses
-Iron Maiden
-Lilitu
-Metallica
-Muse
-Nirvana
-Ozzy Osbourne
-Pink Floyd
-Queen
-Rammstein
-Shadows Fall
-Soundgarden
-Static-X
-Symphony X
-System Of A Down
-Tenacious D
-The Offspring
-Tool
-Weezer

[sensitiveorgan00]

^ Um, where's teh death metal?

[xizoesira]

These are the bands I like:

-Alexisonfire
-Alice In Chains
-Children Of Bodom
-Darkest Hour
-Denis Leary
-Dimmu Borgir
-Godsmack
-Guns 'n Roses
-Iron Maiden
-Lilitu
-Metallica
-Muse
-Nirvana
-Ozzy Osbourne
-Pink Floyd
-Queen
-Rammstein
-Shadows Fall
-Soundgarden
-Static-X
-Symphony X
-System Of A Down
-Tenacious D
-The Offspring
-Tool
-Weezer

Fly, you fools!

This is a civil thread, but still. :x

[Sickidd]

This is a civil thread, but still. :x
Ahem.... :\

[Terminal Spirit]

Behexen?

Yes, please!

I'm actually prefering Satanic Black Devotion by Sargeist to my usual habit of By the Blessing of Satan. Satanic Black devotion is more melancholic than typical Behexen, and the song-writing is top notch. :thumb:

[bassaholica2004]

Why does everyone knock on Marduk? I'm listening to Nightwing, and its some good stuff. The drumming gets boring, but thats to be expected of most BM. Does anyone else like Marduk?

[yes 70s r back]

i am a death head.. but would much rather be called.. "a ****ing flesh eating immortal from the netherworld" but thats just me, lol

black dahlia
cannibal corpse
nile
red chord
cattle decapitation
goatwhore

[MorduM]

Why does everyone knock on Marduk? I'm listening to Nightwing, and its some good stuff. The drumming gets boring, but thats to be expected of most BM. Does anyone else like Marduk?

I dont, i like Marduk. im listening to world funeral at the moment.. good album.

Hellhammer is not a boring bm drummer.
It is not to be expected of most BM. :mad:

yes 70s r back, cryptopsy still eats all of those bands. :smoke:

[NJMetalMeister]

edit: nevermind i totally read what i was replying to completely wrong

[metallica bass101 666]

ya some thing as i read them arent vene death metal like linkin park they shoudltn be anywhere near here , but some good death metal is bodom,slayer , cannible corpse, morbid angel, opeth, cryptopsy(sp), etc...

[Mekkalayakay]

ya some thing as i read them arent vene death metal like linkin park they shoudltn be anywhere near here

Get this man a microphone




Anybody listen to Into Eternity?

[MorduM]

ya some thing as i read them arent vene death metal like linkin park they shoudltn be anywhere near here , but some good death metal is bodom,slayer , cannible corpse, morbid angel, opeth, cryptopsy(sp), etc...

mmhm..

slayer is thrash..

Quo Vadis is :thumb:

[LordDargon]

The thread seems to be undergoing a n00b attack!

NP: Behexen - Watchers of my Black Temple

I love the last minute or so of this song :thumb:

[Mekkalayakay]

I'm listening to:

Abandoned Grave - Intense Sledgehammer Rage

[ninjamonkey]

NP - Suidakra - Gates of Nevermore

[LegionsofMarduk]

Why does everyone knock on Marduk? I'm listening to Nightwing, and its some good stuff. The drumming gets boring, but thats to be expected of most BM. Does anyone else like Marduk?

Becuase they aren't "trOO" enough. Most elitists will tell you they're not even black metal; they're norsecore. Personally, I don't care what they are. I still like them. Those Of The Unlight is great, Opus Nocturne is very underrated IMO. And Heavan Shall Burn...When We Are Gathered is also really good. I haven't been paying too much attention to the details, but I'm looking forward to the new album without Legions. I'm hoping they head back towards the older sound a bit, but still manage to keep the aggression.

NP: Bathory - In Conspiracy With Satan

[Corporal Compendia]

Becuase they aren't "trOO" enough.

I hate that excuse... it's because they're not good. :p

So uh, guys, the new Engorged is out. We all like Engorged don't we? No? Well we should! I plan on getting it soon! Anyone heard it yet? I heard... a song, and it was freakin' great!

[sensitiveorgan00]

I found an interesting interview of Velvet Cacoon. I don't know if you guys are familar with teh band, though I did mention them a few pages http://www.fmp666.com/velvetcacoon/vc.html

I thought it was a good read. :thumb:

[Stoic]

god guys, I've just read the previous pages to see what I've missed and I'm wondering...does anyone still buy CDs nowadays?...60GB of music?!?! For those who have fast internet (all of you but me I guess) do you even download albums by underground bands that certainly do not make a living off their music?

[LordDargon]

I have to download music for reasons which I wish to keep private :upset:

Anyways, about Marduk, I like Those Of The Unlight. One time (along time ago) I asked for some on SLSK and a guy said they were "norsecore". So then I came in here and asked if they were norsecore or BM, and I got shouted at. :upset:

[Bartender]

god guys, I've just read the previous pages to see what I've missed and I'm wondering...does anyone still buy CDs nowadays?...60GB of music?!?! For those who have fast internet (all of you but me I guess) do you even download albums by underground bands that certainly do not make a living off their music?

I make a point of buying, unless it's out of print or I simply can't find it.

[Mardy]

jesus its a long time since I was in here

anyone got any news on Immolation?

[Bartender]

I think they're supposed to have a new album out some time next year. Can't remember where I heard it though.

[Corporal Compendia]

Immolation is releasing their new album sometime within the first quarter of next year. They also still have to release their DVD in North America, which has been delayed 3289389 times already.

and to the guy that was asking, yes, I buy CDs, and lots of them. I never download full albums and well, I rarely download anything these days.

[ninjamonkey]

What the hell is ecofascism?

Oppressing the environment?

[Bartender]

The opposite, I think. Hard-line enviromentalists. Could be wrong, though. Where'd you get that from, anyway?

[Stoic]

I'm making a wishlist so has anybody listened to any of these albums?

The Chasm - Spell for Retribution
(bit off topic)
Pagan's Mind - Infinity Divine (re-release)
Angra - Temple of Shadows

[Corporal Compendia]

The Chasm should definitely stay on that wishlist. If you've heard and like any other albums by them, you'll like that one too.

[Stoic]

I hope so...I've only read a couple of reviews and one of them said the production is bad and it sounds like a demo

[Bartender]

Is that the new The Chasm album?

I only have one, so I don't know.

[ninjamonkey]

The opposite, I think. Hard-line enviromentalists. Could be wrong, though. Where'd you get that from, anyway?

Why do you htink the opposite?

Its supposedly the topic of the lyrics of Velvet Cacoon.

[Bartender]

I just think that's what ecofascism means. Fanaticism directed to protecting/promoting the environment, not destroying it.

[ninjamonkey]

My guess is that their lyrics deal with anti-ecofascism

Supposedly they are former members of ELF (Earth Liberation Front)

Fascism deals with opression, yes? And "eco" is for ecosystem/environment.

[Dark Hero]

The Chasm own.

[Corporal Compendia]

^^^ Indeed they do.

So, aside from all this ecofascist talk... has anyone heard the band Augury? If not, GO DO SO NOW! A fresh taste of death metal. Me thinks you'll all like them.

[Cardboard Headgear]

My guess is that their lyrics deal with anti-ecofascism

Supposedly they are former members of ELF (Earth Liberation Front)

Fascism deals with opression, yes? And "eco" is for ecosystem/environment.
You've never heard the term EcoNazi? Like the people who went around blowing up SUV's becuase they were gas guzzlers and pollution machines.

[Dark Hero]

^^^ Indeed they do.

So, aside from all this ecofascist talk... has anyone heard the band Augury? If not, GO DO SO NOW! A fresh taste of death metal. Me thinks you'll all like them.

I'll check them out.

[Dark Hero]

Does anyone in here like God Deathroned? I hear alot of people talk about Death-Metal but never about God Dethroned.

[Ihsahn]

I'm making a wishlist so has anybody listened to any of these albums?

The Chasm - Spell for Retribution
(bit off topic)
Pagan's Mind - Infinity Divine (re-release)
Angra - Temple of Shadows


I have the Spell of Retribution on mp3, and it is quite the kickass album. I made a post on it somewhere earlier in this thread.
I'm not really sure about the Pagan's Mind, but I have heard that the new Angra is also very good.

[Bartender]

*notes down Augury*

[Dark Hero]

^^^ Indeed they do.

So, aside from all this ecofascist talk... has anyone heard the band Augury? If not, GO DO SO NOW! A fresh taste of death metal. Me thinks you'll all like them.

The song Beatus owns.

[ninjamonkey]

^^^ Indeed they do.

So, aside from all this ecofascist talk... has anyone heard the band Augury? If not, GO DO SO NOW! A fresh taste of death metal. Me thinks you'll all like them.

are they from Canada?

What Engorged do you recommend?

\No, Ive never heard the term Econazi although that name makes sense to me and now ecofascism does too. But you can see where I was coming from right? Based on the roots of the word it seems like it could have 2 meanings.

[bassaholica2004]

Becuase they aren't "trOO" enough. Most elitists will tell you they're not even black metal; they're norsecore. Personally, I don't care what they are. I still like them. Those Of The Unlight is great, Opus Nocturne is very underrated IMO. And Heavan Shall Burn...When We Are Gathered is also really good. I haven't been paying too much attention to the details, but I'm looking forward to the new album without Legions. I'm hoping they head back towards the older sound a bit, but still manage to keep the aggression.

NP: Bathory - In Conspiracy With Satan

Well, the only album I've heard is Nightwing, and all the songs on it are anti-Christian, and its as Black as I've heard. Are their later albums different?

Oh, and about their drummer. I didn't mean he was boring, he's actually really good. Just on some songs its the same thing over and over and over, and it gets kinda boring. Wasn't Hellhammer in Mayhem?

[LegionsofMarduk]

Well, the only album I've heard is Nightwing, and all the songs on it are anti-Christian, and its as Black as I've heard. Are their later albums different?

Oh, and about their drummer. I didn't mean he was boring, he's actually really good. Just on some songs its the same thing over and over and over, and it gets kinda boring. Wasn't Hellhammer in Mayhem?

I haven't heard Nightwing all the way thru, but it sounded along the same lines as La Grande Danse Macabre. Their older stuff was more atmospheric.

And yes...Hellhammer is in Mayhem. He's been in/played with a lot of good bands.

[Iron Man]

Sorry to interrupt your thread, but I need a CD recommendation and you guys seem like the best to ask.

I want to get into Death, and I'd like to know what CD I should get first.

[sensitiveorgan00]

Death - Human
or
Death - Symbolic

[Magicaltroll]

Sorry to interrupt your thread, but I need a CD recommendation and you guys seem like the best to ask.

I want to get into Death, and I'd like to know what CD I should get first.
yeah can u do the same for me only im looking to get into black metal....
ive heard emperor-eclipse (something to do with an eclipse i forget) and ive heard early cradle of filth
both are really awesome and im trying to get into more so if u could help me out id appreciate it :thumb:

[Iron Man]

I've heard good things about Immortal, but I haven't heard them yet (I want to)

[Terminal Spirit]

So uh, guys, the new Engorged is out. We all like Engorged don't we? No? Well we should! I plan on getting it soon! Anyone heard it yet? I heard... a song, and it was freakin' great!

I've heard the one advanced track, Stinger, and honestly, it doesn't impress me as much as many of the songs on the self-titled. I adore the self-titled though, so they'd have to really step it up to get Where Monsters Dwell to impress me more than the self-titled.

[ninjamonkey]

What is the best Grand Belial's Key album?

What is the best Deathspell Omega album?

[Ihsahn]

What is the best Grand Belial's Key album?

What is the best Deathspell Omega album?

As far as GBK goes, I'm very partial to Mocking the Philanthropist, but all their stuff is good. For Deathspell Omega I like Inquisitors of Satan best, but
Si Monumentum Requires, Circumspice is a more ethereal and atmospheric album.
If you're a production stickler though, I wouldn't bother checking Deathspell Omega out.

[Omega Red]

yay go Simon and Garfunkel

[bassaholica2004]

Whoa I just read that Immortal's Abbath was in a Death Metal band called Old Funeral, which also had Varg Vikernes in it! Anyone heard of this band?

[Riva]

Whoa I just read that Immortal's Abbath was in a Death Metal band called Old Funeral, which also had Varg Vikernes in it! Anyone heard of this band?


Nope, sounds awesome though.

[ninjamonkey]

NP - Disillusion

[MorduM]

i got rid of all the crap music i had.. i changed bit rates.. and also got rid of some good music that i had :upset: .. and now i have around 35gb.. i feel like **** now..(the good kind of ****..whatever that is)

i would like to say that, alot of the music i have on my computer is bought music that i have put on here to make it easier to listen to..

Old Funeral, yeah. Varg was a guitarist and Abbath did vocals and bass. They were never in the band at the same time though..

[xizoesira]

I've heard good things about Immortal, but I haven't heard them yet (I want to)

Acquire any or all of their last three albums straight away (Sons of Northern Darkness, Damned in Black, At the Heart of Winter).

[Bartender]

What is the best Grand Belial's Key album?


Mocking the Philanthropist is good, but I prefer Judeobeast Assassination by quite a long way.

[manuscriptreplica]

Also get Pure Holocaust by Immortal

[RideTheSpiral]

Pure Holocaust wins.

[Toozey]

They all win.

[LordDargon]

I've been on a black metal binge lately, I need to know quick what are the best albums by Gorgoroth and Carpathian Forest. Also if they are any good in the first place.

Also if someone could recommend a good symphonic BM album, similar to Nightside, that would be great.

[manuscriptreplica]

Gorgoroth are rather average if you ask me. Like Mayhem, their legacy outweighs their music, check out Defending the Throne of Evil by Carpathian Forest

[LordDargon]

But Mayhem are the best :(

Will do for C.F. though.

[manuscriptreplica]

Mayhem died with Euronymous

[LordDargon]

tr00 :upset:

De Mysteriis Dom Sathanas is the best. :)
and I need to get Deathcrush.

How about Kult ov Azazel aswell, they any good? I heard they have a tech drummer, that should be interesting.

[manuscriptreplica]

I've never heard of them, my black metal knowledge lacks somewhat

[BoboTheRagingHobo]

/me slips in silently to leech off of all your guy's knowledge of metal...

[Bartender]

Kult ov Azazel are incredibly raw. Really awful stuff. So go get some!

Check out GBK as well, while you're at it.

[Toozey]

But Mayhem are the best :(



Incorrect.

[LordDargon]

Yeah, I must be the only one that thinks that... there is just something special about DMDS... My favorite :)

[Ihsahn]

tr00 :upset:

De Mysteriis Dom Sathanas is the best. :)
and I need to get Deathcrush.

How about Kult ov Azazel aswell, they any good? I heard they have a tech drummer, that should be interesting.


Kult ov Azazel are black with a somewhat deathish sound, I suppose. It's quite brutal and very assaulting aurally, especially live (they played at Northern Lights earlier this year). Try the Triumph of Fire, or Occulus Infernum albums. Their drummer, Hammer, is insanely fast, especially footwise and the music is a constant barrage of sound.

[Scuba Taco]

Cryptopsy
Deicide
Napalm Death
Morbid Angel
Cannibal Corpse
The Black Dahlia Murder
Cattle Decapitation
In Flames
Carcass

Just some Death/Melodic Death Metal Bands I listen to. I don't consitter Slayer death metal, like alot of other people, but if I did, they would be on that list.

[ninjamonkey]

Judeobeast Assassination, eh?

Can someone please explain the anti-semetic sentiments in metal? I understand the anti-christian feelings and support them because I do not like that religion and I find there is legitamate reason not to like it, but I dont get the ant-jewish sentiments. Jews don't come up to your house and try to convert you. Jews don't vote for Bush. Jews don't believe Christ was the messiah. What the hell is wrong with them then?

[Ihsahn]

People who dislike Jews disagree with the ascetic lifestyle that the religion seems to suggest. They feel that this, as well as the Christian lifestyle is dehumanizing and debilitating on the mind and body, and wish to see it removed. This is the... I hesitate to use the word because it's quite ridiculous and not really true... "legitimate" reason, largely perpetuated by Nietzsche in his works, particularly The Genealogy of Morals. Then there are those who go off into conspiracy mode saying how Jews control the economy, the media, etc etc etc... frankly I find it all to be quite idiotic.

[ninjamonkey]

People who dislike Jews disagree with the ascetic lifestyle that the religion seems to suggest. They feel that this, as well as the Christian lifestyle is dehumanizing and debilitating on the mind and body, and wish to see it removed. This is the... I hesitate to use the word because it's quite ridiculous and not really true... "legitimate" reason, largely perpetuated by Nietzsche in his works, particularly The Genealogy of Morals. Then there are those who go off into conspiracy mode saying how Jews control the economy, the media, etc etc etc... frankly I find it all to be quite idiotic.

I don't think Jews lead the same ascetic lifestyle as Christians. They don't go to synagogue every Sunday, etc. And they dont go around "praising God." I've never seen a case of Judaism infringing on someone's everyday life like I have seen for Christianity. I guess the only exception to this would be someone who is Kosher, but none of my Jewish friends even abide by those rules. I think being Kosher was pretty legitamate when it was first thought of, though. Pigs are fatty and carried all types of disease. It was wise not to eat them.

[Bartender]

Hatred of the Jews (technically not anti-semitism) is mostly nothing to do with the religion, but the race. It's not a hatred of the Jewish religion and it's practices, it's a hatred of the Jews (by race) themselves.

[NJMetalMeister]

Jews don't vote for Bush.

this jew did

[Dark Hero]

The new Arsis album owns, I can't stop listening to it.

[LordDargon]

Then there are those who go off into conspiracy mode saying how Jews control the economy, the media, etc etc etc... frankly I find it all to be quite idiotic.

That stuff is ****ing hilarious, "Don't drink water. It's a jew conspiracy."

:lol:

Thanks for the help on Kult ov Azazel as well.

[Corporal Compendia]

are they from Canada?

What Engorged do you recommend?

A) If you mean Augury, Yes.

B) DEATH METAL ATTACK II!
Speedgore Thraaaash! :chug:

[Corporal Compendia]

Kult ov Azazel are black with a somewhat deathish sound, I suppose. It's quite brutal and very assaulting aurally, especially live (they played at Northern Lights earlier this year). Try the Triumph of Fire, or Occulus Infernum albums. Their drummer, Hammer, is insanely fast, especially footwise and the music is a constant barrage of sound.

Kult ov Azazel was the only band I missed pretty well all of at the Northern Lights this year. Well, Lapidate too, I showed up after they came, but I've seen them like.. 10 times anyways. I saw a little of Kult, got bored and went downstairs. I was pretty beat by that point, but what I saw was still not half as bad as AESMA DAEVA though.. awwwwwwful!

[RNR]

Hatred of the Jews (technically not anti-semitism) is mostly nothing to do with the religion, but the race. It's not a hatred of the Jewish religion and it's practices, it's a hatred of the Jews (by race) themselves.

I've never known any jewish person to act any different than any other person. By saying that all of a religious group are a certain way is extremely prejudice and ignorant. There really is no reason for prejudice exept for the false belief that a group of people all are a certain way.

So if it's not the ideals of the religion there really is no good reason to hate jewish people.


(hellos death heads :wave: ).

[Bartender]

I've never known any jewish person to act any different than any other person. By saying that all of a religious group are a certain way is extremely prejudice and ignorant. There really is no reason for prejudice exept for the false belief that a group of people all are a certain way.

So if it's not the ideals of the religion there really is no good reason to hate jewish people.


(hellos death heads :wave: ).

Well I wasn't defending it, I was just pointing out the difference between it being the Jewish faith and the Jewish race under attack.

[shane italian]

They aren't exactly death, but you guys should check out As The Sun Sets.

[RNR]

Well I wasn't defending it, I was just pointing out the difference between it being the Jewish faith and the Jewish race under attack.

Alrighty then :)


I'm listening to some cryptopsy. Very fast and aggressive. I'm impressed by the skill of the drummer. However, the singer sort of sounds like a sumo wrestler getting hit in the stomach.

[Bartender]

What's the song?

Just so we know which singer you're talking about.

[RNR]

It was "We Bleed". Anfd also a few more off the album And Then You'll beg.

I just found it a little funny, that's all :(. It was still an alright song,

[superpeer]

Well that's not the allmighty Lord Worm !

[Bartender]

Yeah, I wonder what you would think of Lord Worm.

[Corporal Compendia]

Yeah, that would have been Mike DiSalvo singing... your description of him was great, especially cause he was a fat guy... haha.

[LordDargon]

Kult ov Azazel would be great, if I wanted "deathened black". Nonetheless I am sure I will enjoy them immensely at some point in the future.

I got recommended Judas Iscariot - Thy Dying Light, be it good?

[Ihsahn]

Hatred of the Jews (technically not anti-semitism) is mostly nothing to do with the religion, but the race. It's not a hatred of the Jewish religion and it's practices, it's a hatred of the Jews (by race) themselves.

Perhaps now, but if you trace it back to where most of the modern hatred originated, I suppose the works of Nietzsche, you'd find that the religion is basically the reason the hatred is there, although that was lost over time. I was also under the understanding that Jew was not an ethnic term, but one denoting religious affiliation, hence the ability to have African Jews, Chinese Jews, Japanese Jews etc etc etc... though I could be wrong about that.


To Dargon: All Judas Iscariot is good :thumb: . Also check out Satanic Warmaster, Mutiilation and Deathspell Omega. If you want more folky black metal try Poccolus, Radigost or Ashen Light... however, avoid if you don't like keys. However with Poccolus, keys aren't overly dominant in the mix.

[Per Ardua Ad Astra]

Dargon, Judas Iscariot owns. Period.


Kult ov Azazel is pretty good, i have 'Triumph of Fire' and it could get a little boring after a while but the drummer is indeed a beast.

[bassaholica2004]

Just got my first Burzum album- Hvis Lyset Tar Oss. My first reaction to listening to the whole thing through was Holy Damn ****. This man is either completely insane or a complete genius. The first track is so haunting, and his vocals are crazy. Finally, I've found another Symphonic BM band I like.

Also, can I do a review on this? Its only 4 songs long, but its 45 minutes in its entirety.

[Terminal Spirit]

Perhaps now, but if you trace it back to where most of the modern hatred originated, I suppose the works of Nietzsche, you'd find that the religion is basically the reason the hatred is there, although that was lost over time. I was also under the understanding that Jew was not an ethnic term, but one denoting religious affiliation, hence the ability to have African Jews, Chinese Jews, Japanese Jews etc etc etc... though I could be wrong about that.


To Dargon: All Judas Iscariot is good :thumb: . Also check out Satanic Warmaster, Mutiilation and Deathspell Omega. If you want more folky black metal try Poccolus, Radigost or Ashen Light... however, avoid if you don't like keys. However with Poccolus, keys aren't overly dominant in the mix.

You are indeed right that most hatred of jews stems from Religious beliefs, as opposed to ethnic origins. There is far more hatred for a sephartic Jew in Israel then there is a sephartic Muslim who is ethnically very similar, in Palestine. The reasons for anti-jewish idealology in metal varies. For some, it's philisphical, as most christianity is quite similar to judaism in many core beliefs. The old testament is based off the Talmud after all. In some cases, it's a political and idealogical view. Some bands, Clandestine Blaze being the most prominent example, are opposed to zionism, Israel, and what is seen as the general jewish mentality, without regards to gods or scriptures. Furthur anti-judaism in metal comes from Christian Identity types. It suffices to say that these folk just hate jews. The most anti-judaism in metal comes from the NSBM scene though, and this is mostly to do with anti-zionism/ZOG and white genocide.

And yes, DSO, Satanic Warmaster and Mutiilation are all great bands. Clandestine Blaze is also highly reccomended as are Sigrblot.

[lilpete86]

Anyone seeing Deicide and Arkhon Infaustus tour the UK soon? I am seeing them on the 5th in Bristol. I hope its a good show, can't wait.

I'll be at the manchester gig :wave:

[Bartender]

Perhaps now, but if you trace it back to where most of the modern hatred originated, I suppose the works of Nietzsche, you'd find that the religion is basically the reason the hatred is there, although that was lost over time.

When convivencia blew up in everyone's face in Spain in the 1400/1500s, the fact that the Jews were a different religion was more or less just an excuse to hate them and (eventually) set the Inquisition on them. Before the Spanish mind manouevred it's way around to thinking like that, the concern was limpieza de sangre; purity of blood. There was also jealousy, of the fact that Jews held a disproportionally high number of positions such as doctors, financiers, etc, and were generally richer than the "real" Spaniards.

Also, have you ever heard of Danny Balint (I think that's his name, it may have bee a false one)? He was a neo-Nazi in New York in the early 90s, with an especial hatred of Jews because he was one himself. That's irrelevant though; his views are reasonably well documented (there's a film made about him), and he explains well the idea of hatred of Jews for being Jews, not for following the Jewish faith.

I was also under the understanding that Jew was not an ethnic term, but one denoting religious affiliation, hence the ability to have African Jews, Chinese Jews, Japanese Jews etc etc etc... though I could be wrong about that.


It can be either. You can be racially Jewish, i.e. having Jewish ancestry (only through your mother; if your mother was a Jew, and your father a non-Jew, you're Jewish, whereas you're not if your father is a Jew and your mother not), or you can be racially anything and religiously Jewish, by converting to Judaism.

[Bartender]

Just got my first Burzum album- Hvis Lyset Tar Oss. My first reaction to listening to the whole thing through was Holy Damn ****. This man is either completely insane or a complete genius. The first track is so haunting, and his vocals are crazy. Finally, I've found another Symphonic BM band I like.

Also, can I do a review on this? Its only 4 songs long, but its 45 minutes in its entirety.

Yeah, of course you can. You can review anything, pretty much, so long as it's not just a run-of-the-mill single.

[LordDargon]

Ok, I should have enough recommendations now.

For Burzum, I couldn't get into what I heard off Det Som... but the other day a guy (same guy who rec.d Judas Iscariot) told me that s/t is more black and I might like it.

Does anyone know what is said during the supremely evil ambient-type into/outros to ABitNS? You can hear Nocturno say "there will be a blaze in the northern sky" quite clearly at about 1:00 on Kathaarian, but I haven't figured out what he says on the end of Pagan Winter.

[Silenius]

I think that is a recording of Varg Vikerness saying "the churches will burn" backwards. I know it's at the end of one Darkthrone song...

[Dark Hero]

Everybody, check out Pessimist (http://www.pessimist.com/main.html)

[ninjamonkey]

this jew did
And your the only one. :thumb:

[NJMetalMeister]

A lot of people here are slightly wrong on the whole hatred of jews thing. It isnt a hatred of the religion per say, but a hatred of the people. A lot of the NSBM comes from more eastern european countries (not all though, some people are just genuinely racist, like varg). In some of these countries, the ukraine in particular (hence nokturnal mortum) there is still loads of anti-jewish propganda passed around the media. Usually for some sort of political support, similar to what hitler did, but without the slaughtering, only the driving out of the jews. A lot of people still have this "old world" mentality, especially in eastern europe, where there are plenty of remnants of the iron curtain still, 10 years later. Its not that nokturnal mortum for example is just picking on the jews for being jews out of nowhere, this is how they were raised, from the media, their parents, their friends parents etc...

Just thought id try and clear it up a little bit. Things in many parts of the world are still pretty bad racially, but they are improving.

[bassaholica2004]

Yeah, of course you can. You can review anything, pretty much, so long as it's not just a run-of-the-mill single.

OK, cuz people kinda got mad at me when I reviewed Cannibal Corpse's Hammer Smashed Face, which is only 3 songs. This Burzum album is a lot longer though (and a lot better). I'll try to review it tonight if I don't fall asleep.

[Bartender]

Well, I'm gonna be reviewing a two-song EP myself soon enough, so it'll be no problem.

[Jondur]

Any recommendations for Abigor? As you know I'm not the biggest black metal fan but I've realised that I've got an albums worth of material by them over the years and its all good stuff. Suggestions are welcome intime for a black christmas

[LegionsofMarduk]

Abigor is pretty good. All of their albums are pretty similiar, but I'd say get:

Nachthymnen (From The Twilight Kingdom)
Supreme Immortal Art
Verwustung (Invoke The Dark Age)

[LegionsofMarduk]

I think that is a recording of Varg Vikerness saying "the churches will burn" backwards. I know it's at the end of one Darkthrone song...

I don't know who the voice is, but at the end of the song As Flittermice As Satans Spys it has "In the name of god let the churches burn" recorded backwards.

[manuscriptreplica]

I'm pretty sure it's actually Varg

[Bartender]

Amongst other things, I got a Quo Vadis album in the post yesterday. And it's rather good.

[NJMetalMeister]

Yes, Quo Vadis do have the bad habit of making extremely good music

[Bartender]

Damn them. How many albums do they have?

[LordDargon]

Lots. that Time one has all the good songs on it. ****, can't recall the name.

[NJMetalMeister]

I cant wait for the new one, i mean it does have Mr. DiGiorgio on bass.

[XoListenen]

So, my 5 year old sister keeps coming into my room and "rarring" at me with her friends. So i let them do it a few times and then when they all come at once i put up speaker really really loud and play Crown of Horns beginning growl bit. They shat themselves.

[Corporal Compendia]

Quo Vadis has 4 albums, but one of them is a bunch, demos, remixes, unreleased songs and **** like that. Passage in Time.

The thing about Quo Vadis that bugs me... is their riffs. I mean, they make awesome songs, and awesome parts of songs, but their main riffs usually bug the hell out of me. Take Silence Calls the Storm for example.. great intro, with the lead bit, long scream and all that... but then the song/main riff starts, and that riff just...agh, I don't like it. I can't freakin' explain it! Maybe someone will understand anyways.

[Silenius]

^too catchy?

[LordDargon]

All the Quo Vadis songs I have are excellent. But I only have like 3 so.

[Corporal Compendia]

^too catchy?

No, it's not that... I love a good catchy riff. It's sort of like... the same reason I don't like any Soilwork(I'm referring to the first couple albums with them). The riffs just sound... odd. Like they're trying to be technical and melodic at the same time or something.... it just doesn't sound good to my ears.

Not all Quo Vadis songs are like that, but a fair amount anyways.

[Silenius]

So the riffs don't flow?

[LordDargon]

I just found Judas Iscariot - To Embrace The Corpses Bleeding.

It owns my soul.

It is in 96kbps, but hey, that makes it more tr00.

[Silenius]

I downloaded 36kbps Marduk once. :lol:
(or somewhere around the 30's)

[Terminal Spirit]

No, it's not that... I love a good catchy riff. It's sort of like... the same reason I don't like any Soilwork(I'm referring to the first couple albums with them). The riffs just sound... odd. Like they're trying to be technical and melodic at the same time or something.... it just doesn't sound good to my ears.

Not all Quo Vadis songs are like that, but a fair amount anyways.

If I understand what you're getting at, it was Arie. Songs like Let it Burn have strange riffs with strange timing or rythme or something that simply doesn't compliment the rest of the instruments and the general flow of the song. Maybe it has something to do with the co-ordination between the instruments too. That's why I was almost happy about his departure from the band. Bart has been the one who wrote the truly glorious Quo Vadis songs like On the Shores of Ithaka, and Sans Abris. The strange disconinuities in some of their songs are what has kept Quo Vadis from being one of the best melodic death metal bands out there.

From what I've heard of the new album though, it seems to be very cohesive through-out the entirety of the songs. I think Silence calls the Storm sounds great.

[ToRidTheDisease]

Quo Vadis has 4 albums, but one of them is a bunch, demos, remixes, unreleased songs and **** like that. Passage in Time.

The thing about Quo Vadis that bugs me... is their riffs. I mean, they make awesome songs, and awesome parts of songs, but their main riffs usually bug the hell out of me. Take Silence Calls the Storm for example.. great intro, with the lead bit, long scream and all that... but then the song/main riff starts, and that riff just...agh, I don't like it. I can't freakin' explain it! Maybe someone will understand anyways.
I agree.

[MorduM]

Big News..

Did anyone mention that Maniac has left and Attila has once again become the frontman of Mayhem

from the mayhem site:
"Maniac is out of the band and back in comes Attila Csihar. He will from now
on take Maniacs role as a front figure with immediate effect.
All though the rumors have been flourishing over the past months, nothing
was decided until now.
The reason for this change lies in a more private matters, but it also deals
with Maniacs inability to tour.
"Maniac was, and will always be a part of our legacy, and it has been an
honor to work with him for the last 10 years. Respect!"

but will it ever be like de mysteriis... i hope so.
:thumb:

[LordDargon]

We saw, De Mysteriis is so so good, man I love it when he does the latin chants. Some people think it's gay, but I think it's haunting.

Candlemass <3 <3 <3

NP: Candlemass - At The Gallows End

I was a long time in coming but man, do these guys ever be awesome :eek:

oh yeah, what does everyone of Decrepit Birth? I just got And Time Begins.

[MorduM]

Attila >any other mayhem vocalist

NP: Mayhem - Freezing Moon

[MetalNightBodomNight]

gaul from gorgoroth> other black metal fronts.

[LordDargon]

:o No, he's alright but not the bestest.

Well, if you want the fastest and most brutal band on the planet, get Decrepit Birth.

The incessant blasturbation is a bit much.

[Silenius]

*Gaahl

And he's in jail now for performing torture and satanic rituals on a 40 year old man.

[Silenius]

I'm listening to Mirrors of Madness from Norther and I just noticed the singer sounds like Ihsahn from Emperor. :eek:
Anyone else ever hear that?

[Iridium]

Does anyone like Dying Fetus??? I saw them at the Murderfest in October; they are probably the best I've seen so far. Looking forward to seeing them again Dec 13 in Austin.

[MorduM]

Dying Fetus is awesome. Gorgoroth is not. About Norther, sort of.. i like Ihsahns vocals better though..

now that ive listened to Sinners Bleed (alot) would anyone like to recommend some more brutal death metal .. something technical as hell!

[Jondur]

Candlemass <3 <3 <3

NP: Candlemass - At The Gallows End

I was a long time in coming but man, do these guys ever be awesome :eek:



Don't see why you guys don't listen to me more. How many times have a told you about Candlemass and their amazingness? It's happened before as well - When I first joined I was raving about this band called Mithras and what happens? Nothing until two years later and now everyone is going on about them.

But now you know. Candlemass are the greatest! Now check out some Solitude Aeturnus!

[Silenius]

Dying Fetus is awesome. Gorgoroth is not. About Norther, sort of.. i like Ihsahns vocals better though..

now that ive listened to Sinners Bleed (alot) would anyone like to recommend some more brutal death metal .. something technical as hell!
Yeah Ihsahn is way better...

Technical as hell=Spastic Ink

[Bartender]

Spastic Ink aren't brutal though, or death metal.

[Silenius]

True...

All I can think of then is Cryptopsy and I'm sure he knows them.

[Invicta_Veritas]

hey I have morbid angel's Covenant. What other MA albums are just as good if not better?

[craggyisland]

hey I have morbid angel's Covenant. What other MA albums are just as good if not better?
Altars Of Madness and Blessed Are The Sick are quite possibly better. Everything after that is downhill.

[Invicta_Veritas]

Altars Of Madness and Blessed Are The Sick are quite possibly better. Everything after that is downhill.

alright cool.

[VictimOfTheBass]

i like every death metal band i have heard of
but i haVENT HEARD OF THAT MANY

[FATAtreyu]

what is the best Deicide album? I'm pretty impressed with what i've heard from them.

[LordDargon]

Dying Fetus is awesome. Gorgoroth is not. About Norther, sort of.. i like Ihsahns vocals better though..

now that ive listened to Sinners Bleed (alot) would anyone like to recommend some more brutal death metal .. something technical as hell!

Er hmm.

Decrepit Birth are tech as hell but, I don't think I would reccommend them (see comments on previous page).

Crap, my mind is blank.

Later Krisiun? quite tech.

"Dying Fetus is awesome. Gorgoroth is not. "
On the contrary, Gorgoroth > Dying Fetus.

[LegionsofMarduk]

what is the best Deicide album? I'm pretty impressed with what i've heard from them.

Their first album is really good. They kind of went down after that. I still like Once Upon The Cross though.

[Corporal Compendia]

Er hmm.

Decrepit Birth are tech as hell but, I don't think I would reccommend them (see comments on previous page).

Crap, my mind is blank.

Later Krisiun? quite tech.

"Dying Fetus is awesome. Gorgoroth is not. "
On the contrary, Gorgoroth > Dying Fetus.

and contrary to that, Gorgoroth sucks.

[LegionsofMarduk]

I used to like Gorgoroth, but for some reason I got really sick of them. And their last few albums have sucked donkey balls anyways.

[LordDargon]

:angry:

What Anaal Nathrakh should I get next? I've got Total ****ing Necro, it's total ****ing necro.

[Bartender]

They've just released a new album. Can't think of the name right now.

EDIT: Domine Non Es Dignus.

[craggyisland]

What Anaal Nathrakh should I get next? I've got Total ****ing Necro, it's total ****ing necro.
You can't really go wrong with any of it, but if you like that demo stuff, maybe The Codex Necro. The Supreme Necrotic Audnance is re-recorded on that (without the tape ****ing up like on the demo), there's also stuff like Pandemonic Hyperblast on there. It's all good.

EDIT: dammit, too slow

[LordDargon]

Yeah, there's Total Fuycking Necro which is some demos and stuff, The Codex Necro, and Domigne Somthing Something, the new album.

EDIT: Ok, Thanks boozer. I love Pandemonic :)

EDIT2: Boozer? What was I thinking? Craggyisland. :confused:

[Bartender]

EDIT: To Bartender: Domine Non Es Dignus. :thumb:

Ninja edit.

[ninjamonkey]

Is Decrepit Birth one of those Suffocation clones? I know a lot of people accuse a lot of bands on Unique Leader to be Suffocation clones.

[Iridium]

what about Misery Index? Do you think that Gallagher should have let him go?

[LordDargon]

Is Decrepit Birth one of those Suffocation clones? I know a lot of people accuse a lot of bands on Unique Leader to be Suffocation clones.
You could definitely call them that, they're faster and all but nowhere near as good.

[Corporal Compendia]

what about Misery Index? Do you think that Gallagher should have let him go?

No! Way!... Misery Index is far superior to Dying Fetus, both live(I've seen them both 4 times) and in the studio now. Retaliate was much better than Stop at Nothing.

[bassaholica2004]

Altars Of Madness and Blessed Are The Sick are quite possibly better. Everything after that is downhill.

I think you're wrong. I mean, you can never beat Alters of Madness, but the only albums by MA that I think are below-average for the band are Heretic and Domination. I think Formulas Fatal to the Flesh is great, its one of their best. Gateways is, I think, they're ultimate in brutal DM. Its more stripped-down than any other album; just bare DM, but its still one of my favorites.

[Terminal Spirit]

No! Way!... Misery Index is far superior to Dying Fetus, both live(I've seen them both 4 times) and in the studio now. Retaliate was much better than Stop at Nothing.

For me, Retaliate is on a par with Killing on Adrenaline. Overall though, Misery Index is the superior band. As for the brutal technical death metal question, get some:
Spawn of Possession
Visceral Bleeding
Internal Bleeding
Goratory
Severed Savior
Gorgasm
Deeds of Flesh (Trading Pieces)
Less technical, but still great are:
Malignancy
Brodequin
Cephalic Carnage
Disgorge Ca (Cranial Impalement)
Harakiri
Rune
Retch
Scattered Remnants

[bassaholica2004]

Has anyone heard of Arghoslent? What kinda music are they, or who do they sound like? I've heard good things about them, but haven't heard them yet.

[Corporal Compendia]

Arghoslent are a melodic death metal band...one of the better ones. Their ideologies turn many away from them, but they make good music regardless.

[Ba$$plyer3]

opeth
at the gates
nightrage
the crown
morbid angel

[Terminal Spirit]

Has anyone heard of Arghoslent? What kinda music are they, or who do they sound like? I've heard good things about them, but haven't heard them yet.

Personally, I believe Arghoslent to be the greatest melodic death metal band out there at the moment. It's hard to compare them to anyone. The mastery of great riffs, great solos, great bass tone, ideal drumming, and comprehendable yet brutal vocals spitting out great lyrics makes them a truly unique band. Highly, highly reccomended.

[bassaholica2004]

Personally, I believe Arghoslent to be the greatest melodic death metal band out there at the moment. It's hard to compare them to anyone. The mastery of great riffs, great solos, great bass tone, ideal drumming, and comprehendable yet brutal vocals spitting out great lyrics makes them a truly unique band. Highly, highly reccomended.

Cool. Any specific albums, or are they all great?

[xizoesira]

Incorrigable Bigotry!

[ninjamonkey]

If you don't mind the racist lyrics, Arghoslent makes incredible music.

[bassaholica2004]

If you don't mind the racist lyrics, Arghoslent makes incredible music.

Well, I downloaded some, and I can't make out the lyrics, so they won't bother me for now. :thumb: What are they racist against? I can't find any lyrics anywhere.

[MorduM]

darklyrics.com has alot of lyrics..
http://www.darklyrics.com/a/arghoslent.html

[LordDargon]

For me, Retaliate is on a par with Killing on Adrenaline. Overall though, Misery Index is the superior band. As for the brutal technical death metal question, get some:
Spawn of Possession
Visceral Bleeding
Internal Bleeding
Goratory
Severed Savior
Gorgasm
Deeds of Flesh (Trading Pieces)
Less technical, but still great are:
Malignancy
Brodequin
Cephalic Carnage
Disgorge Ca (Cranial Impalement)
Harakiri
Rune
Retch
Scattered Remnants
Good list. Would you consider Gorgasm that tech though? They're awesome nonetheless. I finally got my brain to function again last night, so I have to more to add:

Spawn of Possession
Psycroptic

Both of those are awesome. :thumb:

EDIT: Oops, just noticed you had Spawn.

[MorduM]

For me, Retaliate is on a par with Killing on Adrenaline. Overall though, Misery Index is the superior band. As for the brutal technical death metal question, get some:
Spawn of Possession
Visceral Bleeding
Internal Bleeding
Goratory
Severed Savior
Gorgasm
Deeds of Flesh (Trading Pieces)
Less technical, but still great are:
Malignancy
Brodequin
Cephalic Carnage
Disgorge Ca (Cranial Impalement)
Harakiri
Rune
Retch
Scattered Remnants

/me is checking those out, one by one.
thanks :thumb:

[Bartender]

Well, I downloaded some, and I can't make out the lyrics, so they won't bother me for now. :thumb: What are they racist against? I can't find any lyrics anywhere.

Blacks and Jews, as far as I can tell. They're not blatant about it though. A lot of the lyrics (especially on Incorrigible Bigotry) are about the slave trade and colonial times, and it's more just vociferously unsympathetic, rather than actively hateful.

I'm not saying that makes them okay, but it makes for more interesting lyrics than lots of other such bands. Excellent band, regardless. I just re-jiggered my review of Incorrigible Bigotry, actually.

[Blunt]

Pierced From Within --That is all.

The rest is simply an approximation.

Insane tech death from the masters of the genre. Still blows me away every time I listen to it.

Am I right or what!!!!!!!!!

[sensitiveorgan00]

Can you guys recommend Arghoslent songs that are cumworthy/excellent?

[ninjamonkey]

Can you guys recommend Arghoslent songs that are cumworthy/excellent?
The Purging Fires of War

[bassaholica2004]

Blacks and Jews, as far as I can tell. They're not blatant about it though. A lot of the lyrics (especially on Incorrigible Bigotry) are about the slave trade and colonial times, and it's more just vociferously unsympathetic, rather than actively hateful.

I'm not saying that makes them okay, but it makes for more interesting lyrics than lots of other such bands. Excellent band, regardless. I just re-jiggered my review of Incorrigible Bigotry, actually.

I read an interview with them last night, and the reason for their racism, if you want to call it that, actually has a pretty solid reason. What they're saying is if we (Americans) had never had slaves, then today we wouldn't be spending billions of dollars on decendants of slaves for sympathy or something. They're saying that why should we give these people money when they have never known the labor and hate that their ancestors did? I kinda agree with them on this, though they're a bit more extreme on it than I am. Great band though, I just started listening to them and they're one of my favorite Melodeath bands already.

[LordDargon]

Yeah, I've heard people saying that before. Jews don't constantly bitch about the holocaust, but man, alot of black people think EVERYTHING is racist. If you don't like them cause they're dicks, it'll go like this:

Yo man you just be hatin' on me cause I'm black.
No, it's becuase you're an annoying prick.
Yo, you be a playa hata!

yeah, so, that's pretty stupid sometimes when they're like that. Of course only some of them are like that... alot of them don't even think about the slave trade and all that.

NP: Ulver - Hymn I. Wolf and Fear

[Invicta_Veritas]

anybody ever heard of a band called Wolf, and are they any good?


and what are they like

[sensitiveorgan00]

^Yeah, they're from Sweden and have the infamous Wolf album cover. I only heard one song, which was good. But definately not death/black metal.

[Terminal Spirit]

Good list. Would you consider Gorgasm that tech though? They're awesome nonetheless. I finally got my brain to function again last night, so I have to more to add:

Spawn of Possession
Psycroptic

Both of those are awesome. :thumb:

EDIT: Oops, just noticed you had Spawn.

Hmmm, I'd say that Gorgasm are decently technical. On Masticate to Dominate in particular there are some complex riffs and nice solos.

Good call on the Psycroptic too, an excellent band. Still have yet to pick up Sceptre of the Ancients, but I love The Isle of Disenchantment.

[bassaholica2004]

I'm listening to Scepter of the Ancients right now, and its a great album. Way technical. You should definetely check 'em out. :thumb:

Oh **** I just read on Unique Leader that Psycroptic are coming out with a new album soon! They already have 5 new songs. Sorry if you guys already knew......

[ninjamonkey]

DOn't call Arghoslent melodeath. It infers they have the gothenburg sound.
What they're saying is if we (Americans) had never had slaves, then today we wouldn't be spending billions of dollars on decendants of slaves for sympathy or something.
We never spent that kind of money for reparations.

Yeah, I've heard people saying that before. Jews don't constantly bitch about the holocaust
No, they definitely don't, but I've seen a few faggots who hate Jews partly because they think all Jews are constantly requesting sympathy.

[Terminal Spirit]

No, they definitely don't, but I've seen a few faggots who hate Jews partly because they think all Jews are constantly requesting sympathy.

I would also have to agree that it is not all jews who whine about the holocaust and anti-semetism. There certainly are some who try to garner sympathy from the holocaust, and attack their enemies with cries of anti-semetism, but I don't think this represents the majority of jews.

And I think that most will find a lot more than petty racism in Arghoslent's lyrics if one reads into them. Even songs like Rape of a Slave and Quelling the Simian Surge, which appear at first glance to be pretty negro-hating, have far more ambivelance that one would expect. The members of the band are of no small intelligence, and put a large amount of effort into the writing of their lyrics.

[ninjamonkey]

I would also have to agree that it is not all jews who whine about the holocaust and anti-semetism. There certainly are some who try to garner sympathy from the holocaust, and attack their enemies with cries of anti-semetism, but I don't think this represents the majority of jews.

And I think that most will find a lot more than petty racism in Arghoslent's lyrics if one reads into them. Even songs like Rape of a Slave and Quelling the Simian Surge, which appear at first glance to be pretty negro-hating, have far more ambivelance that one would expect. The members of the band are of no small intelligence, and put a large amount of effort into the writing of their lyrics.
More ambivalence? Explain.

[bassaholica2004]

I would also have to agree that it is not all jews who whine about the holocaust and anti-semetism. There certainly are some who try to garner sympathy from the holocaust, and attack their enemies with cries of anti-semetism, but I don't think this represents the majority of jews.

And I think that most will find a lot more than petty racism in Arghoslent's lyrics if one reads into them. Even songs like Rape of a Slave and Quelling the Simian Surge, which appear at first glance to be pretty negro-hating, have far more ambivelance that one would expect. The members of the band are of no small intelligence, and put a large amount of effort into the writing of their lyrics.

Yeah, from the interview I read with them, they sounded like they were pretty intelligent.

And Ninjamonkey, I don't know for sure if the U.S. did spend that money, thats just what they said in the interview.

[NJMetalMeister]

Some people have paid reparations to former slaves, on their own free will, that is true. I think you may have misread it because what the case is here is that a lot of blacks want mandatory reparations, enforced by the government through taxation.

[Bartender]

DOn't call Arghoslent melodeath. It infers they have the gothenburg sound.


But they play melodic death metal. Not Gothernburg-style, true, but what else should we call them? Just point out the lack of Swedish sound.

Interviews with Arghoslent, if anyone's interested;
http://www.tartareandesire.com/interviews/arghoslent.html
http://basementbar.com/DefaultN1.asp?GoTo=InterviewN1.asp?ID=225

[lilpete86]

anybody ever heard of a band called Wolf, and are they any good?


and what are they like

Arn't they sort of trad metal?

[LordDargon]

More ambivalence? Explain.
Ambivalence = mixed feelings or emotions.

I admit, I had to look it up.

Oh **** I just read on Unique Leader that Psycroptic are coming out with a new album soon! They already have 5 new songs. Sorry if you guys already knew......
Thanks for the tip-off, I did not know. I'll go check it out.

[ninjamonkey]

Ambivalence = mixed feelings or emotions.

I admit, I had to look it up.


I know what it means. I don't understand how it fit into that post. It seemed contradictory to the point he was making.

But they play melodic death metal. Not Gothernburg-style, true, but what else should we call them? Just point out the lack of Swedish sound.

Interviews with Arghoslent, if anyone's interested;
http://www.tartareandesire.com/interviews/arghoslent.html
http://basementbar.com/DefaultN1.asp?GoTo=InterviewN1.asp?ID=225
Yes, they are Melodic Death Metal. Not Melodeath. Surprisingly, there IS a difference. Melodeath actually refers to the gothenburg styled death metal.

[LordDargon]

I know what it means. I don't understand how it fit into that post. It seemed contradictory to the point he was making.


Yes, they are Melodic Death Metal. Not Melodeath. Surprisingly, there IS a difference. Melodeath actually refers to the gothenburg styled death metal.
It fits in becuase he was saying they're not vehemently rascist, they're more middle-ground/undecided.

And I don't think anyone used the term Melodeath for Arghoslent...

[ninjamonkey]

OK, his post makes sense now. I just had to read it again. For some reason I was reading it wrong last night at 3 in the morning haha.

I just started listening to them and they're one of my favorite Melodeath bands already.

Right there^

[LordDargon]

Ah, right.

Well, there are no samples of the new Psycroptic songs or anything. Is that new Cryptopsy gonna hurry up and leak soon, or what?

[bassaholica2004]

Damn, I'm getting all confused with these genre names. I know the difference between Gothenburg Melodic Death, and just Melodic Death. So Melodeath means Gothenburg? I'm confused. Why isn't Melodeath the same thing as Melodic Death?