any other death heads?

[Jondur]

Errr... 1st DM songs were off the "At Deaths Door" compilation from Roadrunner back when they were a good label - so thats "Dead by Dawn" - Deicide, Obituary, Pestilence etc. can't remember which songs but the Pestilence song (off "Consuming Impulse") especially made a huge impact on me.

ps those immortal pics were pretty cool. I saw them the other week and they're even funnier in real life! Good band tho

[mutilator]

Cannibal Corpse got me into Death Metal, with Hammer Smashed Face. the first time i heared that song it was in Ace Ventura and i liked it right away (DM vocals always sounded great to me) unfortunatly at the time i didn't know anyone who was into that kind of music and you couldn't really get it over here so i didn't get any DM records until abour a year and a half ago (1st two i bought were Tomb Of The Mutilated by CC and Cause of Death by Obituary) after that i slowly started getting more and more into it until i became totally hooked to it about a year ago.

HAIL DEATH METAL!!!!

[GertrudeMcCrack]

I got into it with Obituary's 'World Demise.' It's not the best, but it kind of fits between Sepultura's 'Chaos AD' and heavier stuff.

[JAStewart]

wow this thread has so many posts!:amaze: :chug:

[GertrudeMcCrack]

Yeah, but they're mostly by about 5 people! :D

[JAStewart]

Originally posted by GertrudeMcCrack
Yeah, but they're mostly by about 5 people! :D

ye hahahaha:lol: :D

[coypu]

I started off seriously when I heard 'She was asking for it' by Cannibal Corpse, I just loved that song and shortly after that I got Carcass - Necroticism Descanting the insalubrious, and from the after that there was no turning back. Still funny that after all theese years I still love that album just as much despite the hundreds of listenes to it.

[xAzagthothx]

i, too, got my first taste of real extreme music with Cannibal Corpse doing "Hammer Smash Face" in Ace Ventura. ive always been around extreme music. my uncle is very active in the hardcore scene so i grew up around that. after i heard CC in ace ventura, i kinda faded out of the heavy music scene, not hearing anything about the band, only repeating it over and over in my head. then in middle school, my friend played me Manson and Korn and i was hooked. i 8th grade i became very into Slipknot and Soulfly. slipknot, with its obvious death metal references, got me more into that. Soulfly....i found Sepultura via Max Cavalera. at the time, he defined heavy for me. i got into Sepultura alot....and became immersed in the underground scene. my next big obsession was Fear Factory and Meshuggah. i had always heard people praising meshuggah on the internet, so i download "Choirs of Devastation" and i was hooked. i dont remember how i got into Fear Factory....but i assume it was just downloading a bunch of songs. then....around summer between 8th and 9th grade....someone suggested Morbid Angel's "Rapture" as a good example of trem picking. i downloaded it, and i was floored. Soon i rediscovered the masterpiece that is "Hammer Smash Face", found out who those Egyptian weirdos are in Nile and the rest is history.




key songs that got me into metal:

start:

Cannibal Corpse "Hammer Smash Face"
Marylyn Manson "Beautiful People"
Korn "Blind" and "Faggot"
Limp Bizkit "Break Stuff"

moving into....

Slipknot "Sic" "Wait and Bleed"
Soulfly "Bleed" "No Hope No Fear"
Sepultura "Roots Bloody Roots" "Chaos AD"
Meshuggah "Choirs Of Devastation"
Fear Factory "Self Bias Resistor" Obsolete"

the pinnacle:

Morbid Angel "Rapture" "God Of Emptiness" "Where The Slime Live"

Cannibal Corpse "Hammer Smash Face"

Nile "Ramses Bringer Of War"



wow thats crazy

[coypu]

Originally posted by xAzagthothx
key songs that got me into metal:

start:

Cannibal Corpse "Hammer Smash Face"
Marylyn Manson "Beautiful People"
Korn "Blind" and "Faggot"
Limp Bizkit "Break Stuff"

moving into....

Slipknot "Sic" "Wait and Bleed"
Soulfly "Bleed" "No Hope No Fear"
Sepultura "Roots Bloody Roots" "Chaos AD"
Meshuggah "Choirs Of Devastation"
Fear Factory "Self Bias Resistor" Obsolete"

the pinnacle:

Morbid Angel "Rapture" "God Of Emptiness" "Where The Slime Live"

Cannibal Corpse "Hammer Smash Face"

Nile "Ramses Bringer Of War"



wow thats crazy

Manson, Limb Bizkit, Korn, soufly.....well we all haveto start somewhere... :)

[Jondur]

It seems like a fairly natural progression for today. Whereas I went from Maiden to Metallica to Slayer, it would be more Korn - Slipknot - Nile nowadays.

[Jondur]

I forgot to say that from Slayer, I went to the very bowels of hell!!! \m/

[Ozmodius]

I moved from Dizzy Mizz Lizzy to Metallica to Nirvana to Slipknot to Mudvayne to Tool to Slayer to Cannibal Corpse to Marduk and so on....

[Give me Beer]

Little question....what do you people think of CoF...I know some people that are pretty big fans...how do you view them?

They're getting pretty mainstream for a black metal (right?) band.

[coypu]

Originally posted by Give me Beer
Little question....what do you people think of CoF...I know some people that are pretty big fans...how do you view them?

They're getting pretty mainstream for a black metal (right?) band.

Musically they are a disgrace but if they can get people into black and death metal I applaud it.

[GertrudeMcCrack]

I think they're ok, Principle of Evil Made Flesh and Dusk And Her Embrace are cool, but recently they've been getting a bit too goth-y for me. Cool image, mind! Everybody check out my incomplete tab of Cthulu Dawn in tab talk, just one riff to get!

[NoFuForU]

I can not even begin to describe how horrible death metal is. I am so tierd of self loathing rock thats just straught up whining about there own pathetic lifes. screw that!

[GertrudeMcCrack]

That's nu metal you're talking about their mate. You're in for some serious grilling if you get them mixed up in here!

[Jondur]

Shut up you ***** ****** ***** (I put the asterisks in myself to save the system the trouble) Death Metal has nothing to do with moaning about your own life or self loathing! You seem to be thinking of nu-metal which has got nothing to do with death metal! If you don't like death metal why have you posted in a thread entitled "any other death heads"??!! There's a thread on Godsmack at the moment and I think they're crap so consequently I haven't posted anything! No go away and let us continue to talk about death metal and how much we hate both NoFX and No Use for a Name!

[Jondur]

And that was only a light defrosting! Wait til Coypu gets here!!

[LegionsofMarduk]

Originally posted by Jondur
Shut up you ***** ****** ***** (I put the asterisks in myself to save the system the trouble) Death Metal has nothing to do with moaning about your own life or self loathing! You seem to be thinking of nu-metal which has got nothing to do with death metal! If you don't like death metal why have you posted in a thread entitled "any other death heads"??!! There's a thread on Godsmack at the moment and I think they're crap so consequently I haven't posted anything! No go away and let us continue to talk about death metal and how much we hate both NoFX and No Use for a Name!

:lol: I couldn't have said it better myself!!!

[LegionsofMarduk]

Originally posted by Give me Beer
Little question....what do you people think of CoF...I know some people that are pretty big fans...how do you view them?

They're getting pretty mainstream for a black metal (right?) band.

I like their older stuff better. Lately they are concentrating more on their image than on their music. It's not a bad image, I like the whole Satan, Vampire etc, it's just that their music is suffering. I guess them being "mainstream" doesn't bother me, if it get's other people into the music, more power to them.

[coypu]

I won't waste my breath on this guy, it is obvious that he has confused death metal with nu-metal so in my view he is just another stupid kid who has no clue about anything.

[Give me Beer]

Originally posted by GertrudeMcCrack
I think they're ok, Principle of Evil Made Flesh and Dusk And Her Embrace are cool, but recently they've been getting a bit too goth-y for me. Cool image, mind! Everybody check out my incomplete tab of Cthulu Dawn in tab talk, just one riff to get!

You could be right there because the people that like them alot that I know are pretty big Goth fans too...lol.

The Cynic CD you put up for download rules BTW coypu.

Ok new question. (hehe) What do you people think of.

A. Immortal. (did I spell that right?)
B. Emperor.

[GertrudeMcCrack]

A. Immortal rule, as far as i'm concerned, Sons Of Northern Darkness is right up there with the old stuff!

B. We already discussed this, i think. The last Emperor album was a bit of a disappointment, but it's still ok. And as for Anthems... \m/:D\m/

BTW what do you think of Mayhem and Darkthrone, Give me Beer?

[coypu]

Originally posted by Give me Beer
You could be right there because the people that like them alot that I know are pretty big Goth fans too...lol.

The Cynic CD you put up for download rules BTW coypu.

Ok new question. (hehe) What do you people think of.

A. Immortal. (did I spell that right?)
B. Emperor.

I'm glad you liked it and if you want anything else just let me know!

A. Never really liked them since I'm not really into that part of black metal. I'm more into black vs. death like Darkthrone (1:st & Goatlord), Aeturnus & Dissection. Burzum is an exception though.

B. I have only heard their stuff on the live album but I think that it is really great and their bassplayer is a very cool guy so I have to give them extra creadit for that.

[Give me Beer]

I haven't heard anything by them sorry...the only DM I've heard yet is the stuff Coypu gave me and some scattered songs over the web by CoF, Morbid Angel, CC etc...not that much....

And Coypu, you were right, the vocals are growing on me... :) After a few more hours of listening I might even start liking them...they don't bother me that much anymore so that's a start. ;)

[Give me Beer]

BTW coypu do you have anymore Spastic Ink stuff? The song "To Counter & Grove in E Minor" really rocks.

[coypu]

I put up 3 more spastic songs and if you like them do what you can to buy the album since the guy behind it all really deserves to get some albums sold.

[xAzagthothx]

Originally posted by NoFuForU
I can not even begin to describe how horrible death metal is. I am so tierd of self loathing rock thats just straught up whining about there own pathetic lifes. screw that!




i will take coypu's approach. im not going to even bother.


Give Me Beer: heres some other neat little ditties to check out:


Cryptopsy "Phobophile"
Origin "Disease Called Man"
Necrophagist "Mutilate The Stillborn"
Nile "Masturbating The War God"
Entombed "Sinners Bleed"
Skinless "Pool Of Stool"
Hate Eternal "Spiritual Holocaust"
At The Gates "The Swarm"
Demigod "Towards The Shrouded Gates Of Infinity"
Exhumed "Casketcrusher"
Immolation "Furthest From The Truth"
Kataklysm "Sorcery"


that should keep you busy.



btw.....does anyone know or have any Morbid Ange bootlegs....mainly the following:

The Beginning
3rd Gig
Unholy Blasphemies
Abominations Of Desolation (original...not reissue)
Evil Demos 86/87
Evil Live 86/88
Thy Kingdom Come
Blasphemy (not the vinyl edition....the one taken in Tampa Sept 9 1989....has Trey's guitar solo on it)
Visions From The Live Side
Leading The Rats
Blessed Are The Roots..aka Live Madness Over Europe 98-91
Crush Jesus Christ Tour 91 (colored pink splattered vinyl)
Angel Of Disease
Live in Milano, Italy, October 16, 1995 (not sure what format....but thats the date)
LIVE FORMULAS (!!!!)


will pay good money for any of those

[Give me Beer]

Originally posted by coypu
I put up 3 more spastic songs and if you like them do what you can to buy the album since the guy behind it all really deserves to get some albums sold.

Don't worry, I HATE copied or burned albums. I ALWAYS buy my CDs for real, I don't have that much money to spend so it could take me months to get to it but eventually I always buy the CD. (like focus by cynic, I will buy that album even though I already have it on my computer now...)

I'm currently buying all DT albums ... I still need the first one, Falling into infinity, Scenes from NY and once in a Livetime, after that I'll start buying some DM albums. Eased your mind? ;)

[coypu]

I checked my list and this is the only bootleg I have is :
Morbid Angel - Evil Live (bootleg 88)

I have it only in mp3 but if you want it just let me know.

Give Me Beer : The spastic is sold out anyway but I just feel for the guy so when he releases it I will buy it myself and hopefully some others will too. I personally have a ****load of ripped albums in mp3 that cost me nothing so I'm a bad boy but I always buy the good stuff like Immolation and such to easy my mind.

[xAzagthothx]

coypu: i think i might take you up on that offer.


i have found the following on ebay.....lemme know what you think about prices:


Blessed Are The Boots: bootleg live cd....really want...i can nab it for 20 bux w/ buy it now. i think im going to get this one....anyone have any info on the quality?

Angel Of Disease cd: ****in rare as balls......i can get it for 60 bux w/ buy it now....but that seems a bit obsurd.

[coypu]

Originally posted by xAzagthothx
coypu: i think i might take you up on that offer.

i have found the following on ebay.....lemme know what you think about prices:

Blessed Are The Boots: bootleg live cd....really want...i can nab it for 20 bux w/ buy it now. i think im going to get this one....anyone have any info on the quality?

Angel Of Disease cd: ****in rare as balls......i can get it for 60 bux w/ buy it now....but that seems a bit obsurd.

The songs are on my other hard drive so I'll upload tomorrow for you.

I found this site with bootleg info & soundclips : http://angemorbide.free.fr/bootlegs.html , the Blessed are the boots bootleg is not brilliant but it works, I really recomend that you listen to the soundclips before purchase.

60 bucks is abit much in my view, try Mirc first atleast or try to find a better deal if possible.

[slayerrules]

Since others are mentioning black metal, I also have a question.

Has anyone heard Borknagar? I've read about them but their stuff is hard to find in the states. Any opinions?

[xAzagthothx]

lol coypu thats the site i garnered my info from. i dont remember seeing sound clips....but yes id like to hear some before i shell out 20 bux on a live cd.

[coypu]

Originally posted by slayerrules
Since others are mentioning black metal, I also have a question.

Has anyone heard Borknagar? I've read about them but their stuff is hard to find in the states. Any opinions?

I have heard their material and considering that they have Tyr and Asgeir Mickelson in the band you will not haveto doubt the great talent in the band.

The vocals are Clean/Black and the music is melodic and very musical and far from primitive black metal. I would not name this band as black metal but something different. I think this stuff is great and would probably appeal to thoose who aren't too hardcore true blackmetallers but more fans of stuff like Opeth and the lighter stuff.

[coypu]

Originally posted by xAzagthothx
lol coypu thats the site i garnered my info from. i dont remember seeing sound clips....but yes id like to hear some before i shell out 20 bux on a live cd.

I downloaded a soundclip from Boots and it worked just fine so it should be no problem.

[LegionsofMarduk]

Immortal - Great band...Almost got to see them last friday in Detroit, but couldn't find anyone to work my shift for me:( ****ed in Black and Battles in the North are the best. Sons of the Northern Darkness in really good too.

Emperor - They're ok. Not my favorite band but still worth listening too occasionaly.

Mayhem - Pure Norwegian Black metal! Dead and Euronomous(not sure how to spell it) were true black emperors. Too bad the new Mayhem sucks balls.

Darkthrone - What can you say...pure, raw, primitive black metal. One of my favorites.

Borknagor - I've only heard one song that was downloaded and the quality wasn't very good so I'm not really sure.

All Hail Black metal!!!!

[Give me Beer]

I'm really learning something about Death Metal in this thread.

Ok here comes another request, (hope you don't get tired of them coypu ;) ) ... Do you have any Spiral Architect MP3's?

There was a link on Spastic Ink's website to theirs and now I'm interested in hearing them.

I'm asking you this stuff because I can't download Audiogalaxy or similar programs on my computer. It would be easier if I could but ...

BTW...Do you know when Spastic Ink's new album is going to be released? Because it says on their website that they will not re-release the old CD again until the new one's out...

[coypu]

Originally posted by Give me Beer
I'm really learning something about Death Metal in this thread.

Ok here comes another request, (hope you don't get tired of them coypu ;) ) ... Do you have any Spiral Architect MP3's?

There was a link on Spastic Ink's website to theirs and now I'm interested in hearing them.

I'm asking you this stuff because I can't download Audiogalaxy or similar programs on my computer. It would be easier if I could but ...

BTW...Do you know when Spastic Ink's new album is going to be released? Because it says on their website that they will not re-release the old CD again until the new one's out...

I'm just glad that you want more music so it is not a problem at all. I uploaded 3 spiral Architect songs, just let me know if you want more later on.

As far as I know no one knows when the Spastic Ink album will be done, he has many guest artists and he is waiting for them to do their parts but hopefully within this year but you never know with theese things.

[Jondur]

Here's one for you: Some of Coypu's compatriots: Ominous!
A lot of you have said you enjoy Meshuggah so you should appreciate these guys. I think they're an excellent band. Their website (www.omissa.com) hasn't been updated for ages but it's got some mp3's .

I'm not a huge Borknagor fan - Arcturus are way better!
I'm not a fan of the "grim " style black metal - I like some of the original stuff (Deathcrush, A Blaze in the Northern Sky, In these trees are my gallows etc) but I've no time for bands who are still peddling the same stuff now!

[free2exhale]

wowo, theres alot of death heads that come here huh?

[NoFuForYou]

Hell ya Niggs

Here is tabs to the new song from grave robber

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--0----0----0----0----0----0----0---0---0---0--0---0---0

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-0---0---0---0---0--0---0---0---0---0---0---0---0---0-

SOLO SOLO SOLO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
--0--------------------------------------------------------------
----0------------------------------------------------------------
------0-------------------------7-9-----------------------------
--------0-------------------------------0------------------------
----------0---1-2-2--2-2----------------0---------------------
-------------------------------------------------0--0---0---0--0

Thatas all I have figured out right now

But have no fear, I will be working day and night !!!!!!!!

[free2exhale]

REVOLUTIONARY **** MAN....REVOLUTIONARY.....we should hook up sometime....check out this bass line for it

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---0-----0-----2-------2-------0--------

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--0--------0-----7----0-----7------2

now dat is off da chain!!!

[NoFuForYou]

By the way, That song is in open F#

thats

e
f
f#
d
a
f

Check it

[Elderodo]

:chug:

right on!

[free2exhale]

hell ya, i figured it was, i dont usually tune my bass cuz its just 4 phone cords nailed to a 2 by 4, but she plays really nice, call her suzy.

[xAzagthothx]

wt??? alright....lol

so coypu, the sound clip was fine was it? everything was audible and such?

[coypu]

Originally posted by xAzagthothx
wt??? alright....lol

so coypu, the sound clip was fine was it? everything was audible and such?

Well it is a bootleg so the quality is not all that hot but it was still clear and I have heard worse too. Take any song and decode it into 32kb/s and you will have similar sound quality.

try this:
http://angemorbide.free.fr/Evil%20spells%20(live).mp3

[IanoDublin]

This thread is so long. But since I don't like death metal I'll stop talking now.

[PimpDaddyKabZ]

Originally posted by IanoDublin
This thread is so long. But since I don't like death metal I'll stop talking now.


eat a spam dog

[xAzagthothx]

coypu: im quite impressed with the Blessed Are The Boots quality. its very nice for a bootleg song.


marijuana sure is a beautiful thing isnt it? lol...Dave Vincent.

mmmm im really liking the slow intro for the "Evil Spells" version of that demo. too bad they didnt keep it that way for Altars...mmm i cant remember which new title they gave it but whatever.

[xAzagthothx]

yeah i bought the cd. waiting for a response from the seller. hheheheh

[xAzagthothx]

come on boys lets get with it....were almost on the****ing 2nd page here.

[GertrudeMcCrack]

I've said this before, but anyone with a remote interest in Black or Death Metal should download 'When Humanity Is Cancer' and 'Submission Is For The Weak' by Anaal Nathrakh, they're very cool, IMO!

[coypu]

They are nice but just as Marduk I find them to be hard to listening to more than 5 min at time but during thoose few minutes they sure as hell kick alot of ***.

[coypu]

Anyone Know any good fusion grind? I only know of two bands (Scrawl, Cause for effect) but I want more it it exists so let me know if you know any.

[slayerrules]

Originally posted by coypu
Anyone Know any good fusion grind? I only know of two bands (Scrawl, Cause for effect) but I want more it it exists so let me know if you know any.

Thats an interesting combination, I'll have to check those 2 out.

[slayerrules]

Hey Coypu, can you post some of your links to some Cynic stuff. I haven't been able to download much off your site because of the slow internet connection I had but I got something faster so it should work. Thanks.

[coypu]

I uploaded their album + a demo song, I hope you will enjoy it!

http://galaxen.net/~coypu/musik/

[electriceye]

Looks like i'm about 500 posts too late.

Anyway my favourite DM metal bands I like are

Death (RIP Chuck)
Cryptosy (Lord worm was brilliant)
Morbid Angel

[slayerrules]

Originally posted by coypu
I uploaded their album + a demo song, I hope you will enjoy it!

http://galaxen.net/~coypu/musik/

Very cool. I got The Eagle Nature by Cynic and Unholy war by Atheist. Very cool stuff. I'll get some more as time goes on. Thanks.

[xAzagthothx]

heres something to spark some conversation that i was thinking about this morning while listening to "Covenant" by Morbid Angel....what do you think are certain bands songs that have the most evil sounding riffs?


Morbid Angel:

Thy Kingdom Come
Rapture (main chorus riff)
World Of ****
Sworn To The Black
God Of Emptiness (entire song)
Ceasars Palace
Heaving Earth (intro)
Chambers Of Dis (after solo)
Hellspawn: The Rebirth (the intro takes the cake for this i think)


Nile:

Ramses Bringer Of War (when the guitar comes in....wow)
Black Seeds Of Vengeance (w/ the gong...chanting the title)
Masturbating The War God
Beneath Eternal Oceans Of Sand


Kataklysm:

Mould In A Breed
Sorcery
Orb Of Uncreation




lemme see what you think. i think the intro to Morbid Angel's "Hellspawn: The Rebirth" takes the cake for the whole thing.

[coypu]

Not exactly sure what a evil riff sounds like but this came to mind :

Immolation :

I feel nothing
No Jesus No beast

almost any song from this band would do

Incantation :

Demonic Incarnate (the first riff mostly)

Possessed :

Evil Warriors
Pentagram
Burning in Hell

Rigor Mortis :

Condemned to hell

[xAzagthothx]

coypu: i have found a phenominal band for your search for another fusion/grind band: Into The Moat. someone suggested them to me...and i downloaded their song "Epiphany" and it totally floored me. this style of extreme music will pave the road to the future imo. hey btw....whats ur AIM s/n..shouldyou have it. mine is Satanicguitarist. i dont have ICQ but i do have AIM

[DrPepper]

Coypu:Is the fall of reason a demo on your site

[coypu]

Originally posted by xAzagthothx
coypu: i have found a phenominal band for your search for another fusion/grind band: Into The Moat. someone suggested them to me...and i downloaded their song "Epiphany" and it totally floored me. this style of extreme music will pave the road to the future imo. hey btw....whats ur AIM s/n..shouldyou have it. mine is Satanicguitarist. i dont have ICQ but i do have AIM

I got a few songs and they are up there with Cause for Effect but my personal fav is still Scrawl. If I get access to a studio the next year (maybe with some luck) I'm gonna do a one man band that is fusion grind, it's gonna be sweet.

Coypu:Is the fall of reason a demo on your site

No the song is from their album Control & Resistance.

[GertrudeMcCrack]

Evil Riffs:

Deicide: Dead By Dawn (the second bit)
Death: Infernal Death (intro)
Nile: The Howling Of The Jinn (last bit)
Anaal Nathrakh: Submission Is For The Weak
Morbid Angel: World Of Sh*t
Vader: World Of Hurt
and the daddy of evil riffs, Kataklysm: Sorcery

BTW even though it's not DM, the main riff on Slayer's 'Bloodline' sounds kind of evil as well.

[slayerrules]

I'll go with God of Emptiness by Morbid Angel for evil riffs. Also When Death replaces life by CC.

[coypu]

I was listening to Gorguts a few minutes ago and the vocals strikes me as some of the most passionate and soulfull vocals ever in the genre. Other favorites are Cenotaph & Sarcophagus. What are your favorites when it comes to vocals that grabs you on an emotional level?

[xAzagthothx]

hmmmmm id have to say Steve Tuckers singing on Morbid Angel's "Ageless, Still I Am". the feeling that comes across from that song is jus so intenses. its amazing

[mutilator]

Lord Worm certanley sounds very emotional

[IanoDublin]

Originally posted by PimpDaddyKabZ
eat a spam dog MMMM..... Spam Dog *drools*

[GertrudeMcCrack]

I have to say Lord Worm as well.

[xAzagthothx]

you know who i really dont like.....i really dont like George Fisher. i really dont like his voice at all.

[slayerrules]

I like the Corpsegrinder. I think he's got a cool voice. I like how he switches from high pitches to low pitches quickly sometimes. I guess its just personal taste.

[coypu]

I think Corpsegrinder can be great but at times his vocals are tiresome but his live version of Hammer Smashed Face is pure brilliance.

[mick7]

Live version? Mate the studio one is the best easily! Those perfect screams make it easier to hear I reckon. Well thats my opinion anyways...

[coypu]

Originally posted by mick7
Live version? Mate the studio one is the best easily! Those perfect screams make it easier to hear I reckon. Well thats my opinion anyways...

The tomb of the mutilation version with Chris Barnes?

[mick7]

Oh sorry :P silly me lol

Im australian you gotta remember that!

[mutilator]

i can't stand Corpsegrinder either. it's too bad that they replaced Barnes with him since CC are still one of the best bands musically i just don't like the new vocals

[xAzagthothx]

mmmm i have Live Cannibalism and i have to say Barnes rules over Fisher at Hammer Smash Face. the studio version is pure perfection.

[coypu]

Originally posted by mutilator
i can't stand Corpsegrinder either. it's too bad that they replaced Barnes with him since CC are still one of the best bands musically i just don't like the new vocals

I'm actually very glad that they kicked out Corpsegrinder considering the stuff he has done in Six Feet under...

Oh yeah, here is a great Parody of A skull of maggots by Anal Cunt :

Chris Barnes is a P.ussy (http://galaxen.net/~coypu/musik/Anal%20Cunt%20-%20It%20Just%20Gets%20Worse%20-%2035%20-%20Chris%20Barnes%20Is%20A%20P.ussy.mp3)

YOU HID ON YOUR BUS
YOU WHERE AFRAID OF US
YOU WOULDN'T FIGHT ME CUZ YOU'RE GAY
YOU HAD YOUR ROADIES SAVED TODAY

CHRIS BARNES IS A FAGGOT- YOU'RE ****ING GAY
CHRIS BARNES IS A FAGGOT- YOU'RE A ****ING FAGGOT
CHRIS BARNES IS A FAGGOT- YOU'RE BREATH SMELLS LIKE CUM
CHRIS BARNES IS A FAGGOT- YOU LIKE DICKS UP YOUR ***

YOU'RE A ****ING MIDGET, SO YOU CAN BLOW GUYS WITHOUT KNEELING
YOU & ALLEN WEST MET AT A GAY BAR AND WANTED TO START A BAND
YOU GOT KICKED OUT OF CANNIBAL CORPSE BECAUSE YOU SUCK
YOU STARTED SIX FEET UNDER AND THEY SUCK TOO

I'LL FIGHT YOU ANYTIME YOU FAG
BUT YOU'LL HAVE YOU'RE RODIES FIGHT FOR YOU
IF YOU SO BRUTAL, WHY WONT YOU FIGHT ME BY YOURSELF
YOU ****ING CUM GUZZLING FAGGOT HOMO *****

---

I actually like most of corpsegrinders work but the newer SFU is **** in my view.

[Southernfuel]

Originally posted by coypu


I'm actually very glad that they kicked out Corpsegrinder considering the stuff he has done in Six Feet under...

Oh yeah, here is a great Parody of A skull of maggots by Anal Cunt :

Chris Barnes is a P.ussy (http://galaxen.net/~coypu/musik/Anal%20Cunt%20-%20It%20Just%20Gets%20Worse%20-%2035%20-%20Chris%20Barnes%20Is%20A%20P.ussy.mp3)

YOU HID ON YOUR BUS
YOU WHERE AFRAID OF US
YOU WOULDN'T FIGHT ME CUZ YOU'RE GAY
YOU HAD YOUR ROADIES SAVED TODAY

CHRIS BARNES IS A FAGGOT- YOU'RE ****ING GAY
CHRIS BARNES IS A FAGGOT- YOU'RE A ****ING FAGGOT
CHRIS BARNES IS A FAGGOT- YOU'RE BREATH SMELLS LIKE CUM
CHRIS BARNES IS A FAGGOT- YOU LIKE DICKS UP YOUR ***

YOU'RE A ****ING MIDGET, SO YOU CAN BLOW GUYS WITHOUT KNEELING
YOU & ALLEN WEST MET AT A GAY BAR AND WANTED TO START A BAND
YOU GOT KICKED OUT OF CANNIBAL CORPSE BECAUSE YOU SUCK
YOU STARTED SIX FEET UNDER AND THEY SUCK TOO

I'LL FIGHT YOU ANYTIME YOU FAG
BUT YOU'LL HAVE YOU'RE RODIES FIGHT FOR YOU
IF YOU SO BRUTAL, WHY WONT YOU FIGHT ME BY YOURSELF
YOU ****ING CUM GUZZLING FAGGOT HOMO *****

---

I actually like most of corpsegrinders work but the newer SFU is **** in my view.

I think those are pretty dumb lyrics

[coypu]

Originally posted by Southernfuel
I think those are pretty dumb lyrics

There is a story behind thoose lyrics + it is a parody of CC - A skull full of maggots which explain the 'Chris Barness is a faggot' x4.

From the Interview : http://www.thegrimoire.com/anal_cunt2.htm

I shall have to give Blood Duster a call. In any case, I heard that thou called Chris Barnes "gay," and then punched him in the face, and then his roadies beat thee up.

The non-exaggerated true story is, they were playing, and me and my guitarist were heckling them the whole show. And then after he got off
stage I said, "Ha ha. You got kicked out of Cannibal Corpse. " And he, like, walked over and tried to grab me. It was like being grabbed by a 3-year-old. I was like, "What? You want to fight me or something?" He's like, "Yeah."
"Anyway, let's go outside. " My back was turned in front of him as we were walkin toward the door so I can beat him up outside. Then I got jumped by like 5 of the roadies and band members. And then I got thrown out of theclub by the bouncers.

[Southernfuel]

Chris Barnes could take the guy from anal c*nt, I think.

[coypu]

Originally posted by Southernfuel
Chris Barnes could take the guy from anal c*nt, I think.

I'm not so sure, just look at him : http://www.metalprovider.com/analcunt/SETH2.jpg , yeah he is a pretty mean looking guy..

[xAzagthothx]

yeah i sure as hell no i wouldnt wanna start anything w/ chris barnes.



ouchies.

[coypu]

Anyone heard the new Necrophobic & Cenotaph albums yet?

I like the Cenotaph album but it is less melodic and more harsh than their old stuff which really doesn't fit the music very well but it is still good stuff. Definately worth checking out!

The Necrophobic sounds alot like their 'third antichrist' and while catchy the guitars and vocals sound pretty weak but the songs are enjoyable and stick very easily so I would say that is worthy but not amazing.

[mick7]

I still think 80's metal rules!

SLAYER 4 EVA

[coypu]

Many great bands started back in the 80's but Possessed are the guys that really should get the most credit. They really created death metal and just listen to Morbid Angels early stuff and hear how much influences they got from Possessed.

Carcass & Death are worth to mention too.

[GertrudeMcCrack]

I got the new Cenotaph album, to be honest i was a bit disappointed, i don't mind it being less melodic, i just didn't think the songs were as strong. On the 80s thing, it's worth mentioning Celtic Frost, and Terrorizer, but Possessed definitely deserve the most credit, mainly cos they have a song called 'Death Metal!'

[free2exhale]

the song "death metal" probaly sucks just as bad as death metal.

[coypu]

Originally posted by GertrudeMcCrack
I got the new Cenotaph album, to be honest i was a bit disappointed, i don't mind it being less melodic, i just didn't think the songs were as strong. On the 80s thing, it's worth mentioning Celtic Frost, and Terrorizer, but Possessed definitely deserve the most credit, mainly cos they have a song called 'Death Metal!'

I agree completely on Cenotaph, the old stuff had alot more passion and feeling. Soul Profundis is one of the greatest songs ever, to bad the new stuff isn't of the same caliber.

Speaking of old bands, Rigor Mortis are a very good death metal band that faded out early but their songs are really great with lots of attitude and really nice shredding solos. Download Shroud of Doom thoose of you that have never heard them.

[xAzagthothx]

i think its pretty darn f*cked up that Pete Sandoval had been playing with Terrorizer for 10 years prior to joining Morbid Angel....the dudes ****in 40 years old and still blast beats and hits the double bass faster than almost anyone!!!

[slayerrules]

Yes Pete Sandoval is amazing. He's so **** fast and his grooves are really cool.

[Jondur]

I think Terrorizer was Pete's finest hour. Yeah his stuff with Morbid Angel was great and he should be applauded as the man who introduced the blast to death metal but for sheer visceral in your face drumming it has to be Terrorizer. Plus it was the only time he had a drum sound that actually sounded like he was playing real drums!!

[Jondur]

Yeah almost forgot - Celtic Frost had a huge influence on Death Metal as did their predecessors Hellhammer. Repulsion are another seminal band.

[mick7]

Dave Lombardo aint bad though still after all these years

[GertrudeMcCrack]

Neither is Bill Ward. Anyway, time for another discussion: everybody name 5 DM tracks that we can't possible live without hearing. Mine would be

1)Death - Infernal Death
2)Cannibal Corpse - Hammer Smashed Face
3)Carcass - Heartwork
4)Obituary - Slowly We Rot
5)Deicide - Dead By Dawn

It's pretty hard to narrow it down to 5, i had to choose between Death and Morbid Angel! But i figured most of you are familiar with them, and for some reason a few people aren't familiar with Death, plus i didn't want to disrespect Chuck!

[coypu]

You ask the impossible but here are my choices :

1) Cynic - Veil of Maya
2) Atheist - Mother Man
3) Immolation - Here In After
4) Suffocation - The Invoking
5) Gorguts - Illuminatus

I avoided all the classics since they are bound to be mentioned anyway.

[LegionsofMarduk]

Only 5? here goes

Morbid Angel - Rapture
Deicide - Dead by Dawn
Cannibal Corpse - I will kill you
Nile - Black Seeds of Vengence
Hypocrisy - Fire in the Sky

Those are some of my favorites. No particular order.

[slayerrules]

Mine would be these:

Phobophile- Cryptopsy
Howling of the Jinn- Nile
The Lion's Den- Morbid Angel
Hammer Smashed Face - Cannibal Corpse
Serpants of the Light- Deicide

[fufanu_boy]

Carcass - Heartwork
Deicide - Sacrificial Suicide
Cannibal Corpse - Gallery of Suicide
Nile - Smashing of the Anitu
Carcass - Corporal Jigsore Quandary

[Jondur]

Carcass - Corporeal Jigsore Quandary
Death - Pull the Plug
Autopsy- Critical Madness
At The Gates - Slaughter of the Soul
Obituary - Chopped in Half

No I can't do it!!! Five isn't nearly enough you evil bastard! Could we not make it five bands cos in that case I'd subsitute Morbid Angel for Obituary.

[xAzagthothx]

mmmmmmmm i would have to say

Rapture - Morbid Angel
Hammer Smash Face - Cannibal Corpse
Ramses Bringer Of War - Nile
Invocation Of The Continual One - Morbid Angel
Black Seeds Of Vengeance/Masturbating The War God - Nile


thats some great music right there. pure classics in the death metal world.

[BeelzeBloke]

Not strictly DM, but I rate BoltThrower... my favorite top 5 changes all the time & I can't narrow it down, but there'd be a Morbid Angel track in there of course...
+ I have to agree about Terrorizer being a masterpiece.

BTW... NEone seen Nile live???
Where's a good Nile website???

[Jondur]

Yeah I've seen Nile twice and they are a truly crushing live band! The first time I saw them is in my top 5 live gigs! Speaking of which name your 5 favourite bands you've seen live (DM bands that is) and the year if you want:

1) At The Gates Manchester 1996
2) Morbid Angel Wacken 2000
3) Nile Belfast 2000
4) Obsidian Leeds 2001
5) Ackercocke Manchester 1999

ps. the official Nile website www.nile-catacombs.com is pretty cool.

[LegionsofMarduk]

I've only been to a couple DM shows. Most death bands don't come around here. They either go to Chicago or Detroit. I'm right between them. 3 hour drive either way. I saw Cannibal Corpse and Dark Funeral in Detroit a couple of months ago, and I saw Morbid Angel a few years ago when they opened for Black Sabbath. I am going to go see Nile in July though. They're playing in Detroit.

[GertrudeMcCrack]

Best live DM/extreme shows (about the only ones i've been to!):
Nile
Morbid Angel/Zyklon/Cadaver Inc
Dimmu Borgir/In Flames
Napalm Death/Ginger (seriously!)
Dillinger Esape Plan/Nasum

Nile and Dillinger were at the Mean Fiddler, Dimmu and Napalm were at the Astoria. Can't remember where Morbid Angel were.

[BeelzeBloke]

Most live shows I seen were back in the early nineties when the UK grind/death scene was kicking off... seen Carcass / Napalm Death / Bolt Thrower etc too many times to count, & bands that toured the UK back in the day, Pestilence & Malevolent Creation were good live... but the best was Morbid Angel on the GrindCrusher tour...
Not sure of exact years, looking back it's all a bit of a blur...

NEway, last gig I seen was Cannibal Corpse last year, BRUTAL!
But I need to catch Nile...

[Ozmodius]

Ramses Bringer of War - Nile
Nothing is Not - Morbid Angel
Cold Hate, Warm Blood - Cryptopsy
Hammersmashed Face - Cannibal Corpse
Obscura - Gorguts

[GertrudeMcCrack]

Noooo! This thread was on the second page! We can't let this happen again! Come on lads, we're nearly at 666 posts!

[coypu]

Are there any good tabbers here? I usually ask in the tab forum but none wants to tab death metal stuff there so I'll thought that I would ask here instead since we all are musicians.

So, anyone interested in doing guitar or bass tabs for any normal song on Atheist - Element's album? I have soon tabbed all the bass for the 2 first albums so thoose are almost done so know there is only one album left.

If anyone is interested then this song would be a good start : Green (track 1 from the album) (http://galaxen.net/~coypu/musik/Atheist%20-%20Green.mp3)

[rvd7692]

coypu maybe you can help me out. latley ive been listening to god forbid. now people call them death metal but im not really sure if they would be called that. Do you know by any chance?

[coypu]

Originally posted by rvd7692
coypu maybe you can help me out. latley ive been listening to god forbid. now people call them death metal but im not really sure if they would be called that. Do you know by any chance?

some mix between thrash, death & hardcore. I can defiantely hear some sepultura vibes in it and the vocals are not 100% death. hard to pin point but some kind of mix is my bet.

[rvd7692]

thats what i thought also. thanks

[fufanu_boy]

thread is on second page.

ok, as far as guitar sound goes, what death metal album do u think has the best guitar sound?

i'd have to go with deicide's serpents of the light album, crunching guitar sound and a great lead sound, just love it.

[coypu]

Alright, we're on page 2 again which sucks alot so let us pull out the critic inside us and try to find the weak sides of death metal that should be improved for the future if possible.

Here is what I could think of:

* Way to many unoriginal clone bands that does nothing new but only puts out avarage death metal.

* Too little good basslines and bassplayers, most band just settle with pick and playing along with the rhytmn guitar making the a pretty unimortant instrument. Here is alot to improve when it comes to writing and playing interesting basslines in Death Metal. My favorites are : Atheist, Cynic & Gorguts sofar.

* Most vocalists doesn't seem to be pushing their skills further, I think that they all should try to learn more tecniques and add more passion into the vocals. Lord Worm are a good rolemodel here.

* The drumming, while there are many amazing drummers many settle for just being fast and doesn't really explore rhytmns the way I would wish they did. I think that Steve Flynn of Atheist sets a good example of how it could be done and Paul in CC is a bad example.

* I also wish that most bands would experiment more but I'm also glad that bands that are into something really good keep it that way (suffocation, Immolation, Incantation, Bolt Thrower).

That is about it for now.

[coypu]

Originally posted by fufanu_boy
thread is on second page.

ok, as far as guitar sound goes, what death metal album do u think has the best guitar sound?

i'd have to go with deicide's serpents of the light album, crunching guitar sound and a great lead sound, just love it.

Without any hesitation or doubt i vote Immolation, just listen to the songs and solos and I'll doubt that you'll find anything more moody and greater than thoose.

(I'm pretty sure what xAzagthothx are going to say)

[DrPepper]

Originally posted by coypu

* Too little good basslines and bassplayers, most band just settle with pick and playing along with the rhytmn guitar making the a pretty unimortant instrument. Here is alot to improve when it comes to writing and playing interesting basslines in Death Metal. My favorites are : Atheist, Cynic & Gorguts sofar.


the bass solo in the beginning of phobophile is great
(i need a new bass then i'll try play it)

and sean malone=cynic?

[coypu]

Originally posted by DrPepper
the bass solo in the beginning of phobophile is great
(i need a new bass then i'll try play it)

and sean malone=cynic?

Yeah Sean Malone was in Cynic during the recording of Focus and toured with them after. Tony Choy was in the band before malone and recorded their demo '91 with them.

[DrPepper]

is there any other choy work so i can check it out?

[coypu]

Originally posted by DrPepper
is there any other choy work so i can check it out?

You must get Atheist - Unquestionable Presence & Elements, he has done some stuff with Pestilence too (Tstimony of the ancients) but I wasn't too impressed with that, the music was far below his skill level.

Here is a song from their more fusion styled album Elements : green (http://galaxen.net/~coypu/musik/Atheist%20-%20Green.mp3)

[DrPepper]

where do you get the cds from
i asked in many cd stores for unquestionable presence and focus
they even can't order them

[coypu]

Originally posted by DrPepper
where do you get the cds from
i asked in many cd stores for unquestionable presence and focus
they even can't order them

unquestionable presence have been sold out for years but they are working on re-releasing it so within a few years maybe. Focus is also sold out as far as I know but they are too working on a re-release so some day maybe.

I get most of my **** mp3, I buy all I can get but most of the good **** is sold out so more than often I am forced to download it.

[GertrudeMcCrack]

Originally posted by fufanu_boy
thread is on second page.

ok, as far as guitar sound goes, what death metal album do u think has the best guitar sound?

i'd have to go with deicide's serpents of the light album, crunching guitar sound and a great lead sound, just love it. I still love the guitar sound every band produced by Scott Burns had! Obituary, Arise era Sepultura, it was all gooood stuff!

[xAzagthothx]

god......ive been having internet trouble the last 2 weeks so i havent posted anything. nice to see you guys keeping it alive here.


i need some catchin up..lol



best guitar tone in death metal?


easy. Trey on Morbid Angel's "Formulas Fatal To The Flesh"


godly.

[slayerrules]

Coypu,

About what you said about Paul from CC's drumming,

I think the problem is that CC's songs don't leave a lot of room for great drumming like that of Flo Mounier or Pete Sandoval. But I think he does a good job when he gets the chance its just that some of CC's are really simple grind rythms.

[slayerrules]

Oh yea on more thing Coypu, where is that Gorguts song "Disincarnated" from. I dowloaded it from your site and its good, but its not listed on Obscura or the other cd. Is it a demo or something?

[coypu]

Originally posted by slayerrules
Coypu,

About what you said about Paul from CC's drumming,

I think the problem is that CC's songs don't leave a lot of room for great drumming like that of Flo Mounier or Pete Sandoval. But I think he does a good job when he gets the chance its just that some of CC's are really simple grind rythms.

It really doesn't work that way, let us say that you put Sean Reinert (Cynic, Death ...) in the band, would he play the exact same stuff as Paul or would he be doing alot more advanced stuff? I'm pretty sure he would do alot better job and play alot more interesting stuff just because he is better than Paul. Paul is a solid a tight drummer with great stamina but he lacks in invention and he is not very creative as I see it. (I would still kill to get Paul in my own band but that is another story...).

Oh yea on more thing Coypu, where is that Gorguts song "Disincarnated" from. I dowloaded it from your site and its good, but its not listed on Obscura or the other cd. Is it a demo or something?

Gorguts album 1-4:
Considered Dead (Disincarnated is from here)
The Erosion of Sanity
Obscura
From Wisdom To Hate

As you can see the song is from their first album which in my view is their weakest but I still love it. If you like more straight up technical death metal you must get The Erosion of Sanity since it is their last non experimental death metal album and it is great. Obdcura still rules all though.

[BeelzeBloke]

Tony Choy is one ****-hot bassist but he sure pulled a dog in Cardiff one time... the next morning he was like,"but she was a LADY duuude..." yeah, right!
( Pestilence tour, wayback... Tony's totally down to earth & a wicked laugh, but Pat came across as a bit full of it, tho not as bad as that guy from Master.... Spackman was it??? )
NEone know what Choy's up to @ the mo???

[coypu]

Originally posted by BeelzeBloke
Tony Choy is one ****-hot bassist but he sure pulled a dog in Cardiff one time... the next morning he was like,"but she was a LADY duuude..." yeah, right!
( Pestilence tour, wayback... Tony's totally down to earth & a wicked laugh, but Pat came across as a bit full of it, tho not as bad as that guy from Master.... Spackman was it??? )
NEone know what Choy's up to @ the mo???

Tony Choy is probably the best Death Metal bassist of all time and I wish that he would join Atheist when/if they reunite but unfortunately it doesn't look so right now.

Here is what he is up to ( written by Choy himself) :

"WELL HERE IN MIAMI IHAVE MY OWN BUSSINES STUDIO BISS THAT IS
I JUST OPENED A STATE OF THE ART DIGITAL STUDIO IM JUST PUTTING MY WEB IN MARCH SO I WILL FILL YOU IN AS SOON AS IS UP . BESIDES THAT I KEEP BUSY GIGING IN SALSA BANDS TOP 40 BANDS AND STUDIO SESSIONS I ALSO DO ALOT OF THE VOCAL BACKGROUNDS IN TOWN .
FOR ACTS AS SONBY 4, WEST LIFE .ECT HEY GOT TO MAKE A LIVING HEY I BET YOU DIDNT KNOW I COULD SING AS WELL. AS FAR AS CHARTS FOR ALL THOSE SONGS NEVER REALLY DOCUMEMTED ANYTHING BUT THAT STUFF SHOULD BE NO PROBLEM FOR YOU . I JUST REALESED A HOUSE RECORD CALLED BURNING UNDER YOU RECORDS SO IF YOU HEAR IT THATS ME SINGING. AND I WROTE THE SONG ALONG WITH MY PARTNER CEDRIC GERVAIS A FRENCH DJ THRE MORE MATERIAL TO COME SO WILL DEFENETLY KEEP IN TOUCH ."

[mick7]

best bassist of all time - cliff burton

[coypu]

Originally posted by mick7
best bassist of all time - cliff burton

Not technically and I prefer Roger Patterson (RIP) who was a bass genious and played in Atheist before he died about 10 years ago in a touring car accident (sounds familiar?).

Check out this old song : I Deny (http://galaxen.net/~coypu/musik/Atheist%20-%20I%20Deny.mp3) , it beats anything Cliff ever did.

[GertrudeMcCrack]

I'd say my favourite DM bassist is Steve DiGiorgio, mainly cos of his stuff with Death and Iced Earth.

[coypu]

Considering the subject you guys should check out my site which has about every good metal bassplayer that exists in it. I'm sure that there are a few that you have never heard of there so check it out : http://medieteknik.bth.se/joba01

[xAzagthothx]

also, another album with truly incredible sound: Suffocation "Pierced From Within". god.....the lead tone is soooooooo masterful!


id have to say Suffocations bassist is very very very good. also Meshuggah's bass player is very good.

i think in general to be a good death metal band the bassist has to be good....so its i think it comes down to creativity/sound/personal preference.


what does death metal need to improve on?

*more virtuostic guitar playing. Trey Azagthoth wont be here forever and when he leaves, someone needs to pick up the reigns.

*more intellectual lyrical content. sure, the gore section is cool....but its given death metal a bad name in that when people hear the term "death metal" they immediately think of bands singing about satan and eating your dogs intestines and then masturbating into your dead grandmothers grave. we need more Morbid Angel/Nile/Kataklysm type stuff.

*like coypu said, more emotional singing. mostly its just mindless growling. we need more Lord Worms, Chief Spires, Dave Vincent, and Steve Tuckers.



cant really think of anything more as Coypu pretty much covered it.


upcoming concerts i got tickets to:

June 22: 6 Feet Under/Skinless/Sworn Enemy

August 1: NILE/HATE ETERNAL/ORIGIN/ARCH ENEMY.


that will slay all. oh yes.








anyone know where i can get some mp3's of Nile's new album? its finished but it doesnt come out till August 20 i believe. also, does anyone have any information on the next Morbid Angel album? anyone know whose singing??

[Jondur]

Isn't Alex Webster supposed to be a bit nifty on the bass? But then I wouldn't really know. The guy from Acid Death has got some fairly funky stuff as well which sounds cool in a death metal band!

Azagthoth - check out Throne of Nails at www.throneofnails.com they're a great band who have a similar lead style to Trey's. In fact they sound quite a lot like Morbid Angel full stop but they're still a great band.

[angeldeath]

Hey greg, Death Metal mostly is about Satan, Nile there songs are mostly of Anubis (the egyption equivalent of Satan), Deicide is a blentent givin, Morbid Angel take a peak at the name a logo. ya know brother i hate to admit it but i do have a point...but off course Christian Death Metal whould be a ****ing joke, you have to have to oppition in order to keep one person from gaining to much power (look upon thy crusaids of christianity) when one group becomes to power it gets to there head, We need bands that in-advertantly advertise Satan because its a never ending power struggle, and i personaly would like to see the fall of religon period, but thats my opionon and i could be wrong...but i doubt it

ANGELDEATH!!!

[coypu]

Originally posted by Jondur
Isn't Alex Webster supposed to be a bit nifty on the bass? But then I wouldn't really know. The guy from Acid Death has got some fairly funky stuff as well which sounds cool in a death metal band!

Alex webster is probably the best bass player in death metal when it comes to the non-jazz styled bands, he rarely shows of but he throws in some pretty **** cool stuff in some songs that are hard to hear but if you listen carefully his greatness shows. And I saw the life Cannibal Corpse video and the whole band are amazing players (with the exception of their drummer who is tight but not amazing).

id have to say Suffocations bassist is very very very good. also Meshuggah's bass player is very good.

I agree on suffocations bassplayer, it takes alot of skill to play thoose songs on bass for sure.

*more virtuostic guitar playing. Trey Azagthoth wont be here forever and when he leaves, someone needs to pick up the reigns.

The guy in Necrophagist have potential and Peter Lake in Theory in Practice is amazing but he sounds unfortunately alot like Yngvie Malmsteen which is a **** shame. Fredrik Thordendal is probably my favorite at the moment though, he truly have something great going on and he is probably the best since Paul Masvidal of Cynic.

*more intellectual lyrical content. sure, the gore section is cool....but its given death metal a bad name in that when people hear the term "death metal" they immediately think of bands singing about satan and eating your dogs intestines and then masturbating into your dead grandmothers grave. we need more Morbid Angel/Nile/Kataklysm type stuff.

Definately, the problem is as I think that most bands doesn't care much about it, they only write because the vocalist needs something to sing. There are a few good ones out here who put their soul into it but they are too few.

I think Atheist had good lyrics so check them out if you like : http://www.darklyrics.com/lyrics/atheist/unquestionablepresence.html#1

[slayerrules]

Originally posted by coypu


It really doesn't work that way, let us say that you put Sean Reinert (Cynic, Death ...) in the band, would he play the exact same stuff as Paul or would he be doing alot more advanced stuff? I'm pretty sure he would do alot better job and play alot more interesting stuff just because he is better than Paul. Paul is a solid a tight drummer with great stamina but he lacks in invention and he is not very creative as I see it. (I would still kill to get Paul in my own band but that is another story...).



Gorguts album 1-4:
Considered Dead (Disincarnated is from here)
The Erosion of Sanity
Obscura
From Wisdom To Hate

As you can see the song is from their first album which in my view is their weakest but I still love it. If you like more straight up technical death metal you must get The Erosion of Sanity since it is their last non experimental death metal album and it is great. Obdcura still rules all though.

Alright, I agree with you to a certain extent about CC and Paul. If you put the guy from Death (which I downloaded some off your site and the guy is truly amazing!) in there, it probably would be a little better. but I still think that a part of the reason is that Cynic and Death and Atheist and Cryptopsy's songwriting is a lot more technical then CC and demands greater drumming. Thats why those guys are so good, because they "have" to be. It would be interesting to put Paul in Atheist.

What kind of drummer DO you want in your band?

Thanks for the Gorguts info. Amazon had only 2 of the albums and CDNow only had one, so thats why I didn't see it.

[coypu]

Originally posted by slayerrules
Alright, I agree with you to a certain extent about CC and Paul. If you put the guy from Death (which I downloaded some off your site and the guy is truly amazing!) in there, it probably would be a little better. but I still think that a part of the reason is that Cynic and Death and Atheist and Cryptopsy's songwriting is a lot more technical then CC and demands greater drumming. Thats why those guys are so good, because they "have" to be. It would be interesting to put Paul in Atheist.

What kind of drummer DO you want in your band?

Thanks for the Gorguts info. Amazon had only 2 of the albums and CDNow only had one, so thats why I didn't see it.

Cannibal Corpse get very technical at times and you could definately fit some amazing drumbeats in there, Paul does his job and he is tight and he can keep up an entire set but he doesn't do any extra stuff, I honestly don't think that Paul could come up with and play stuff like Mother Man, he just isn't that good.

If I could could choose any drummer I would definately get Steve Flynn of Atheist, he isn't the most technical in the world but in my view he is the perfect death metal drummer and he actually never used a blast beat (except in one song).

[slayerrules]

Yea he seems to be (from what I've heard) well rounded too- he can play many styles.

[coypu]

Speaking of good drummers, check out this video with Fredrik Thordendal & Morgan Ågren from Meshuggah/sol niger within. This guy is amazing so download this : Morgan & Fredrik Thordendal (http://galaxen.net/~coypu/musik/Morgan_%c5gren_&_Fredrik_Thordendal_-_Sol_Niger_Within_Medley_(from_TRUM).mpg)

[xAzagthothx]

Morbid Angel's music is about individuality and breaking away from the mundane and the shackling of those who dare oppress the mind and soul. yes, a lot of that has to do with degrading christianity....with which satan is the obvious answer.


but i dont personally believe in satan, so how can i see the fall of something i dont think exists? lol

[xAzagthothx]

on the religion note, i said 2 very ballsy things to my parents this weekend:


i had to go to a church for a baptism for one of my cousins. my mom was yelling at me "YOU WILL STAND WHEN WE STAND AND PRAY WHEN WE PRAY!" and i said that i wouldnt and she says "oh what are you then, an athiest?" and i said "yes that is what i view myself as" she then goes ranting about not seeing any meaning behind life....bla bla and i told her my thinkings of irrelevancy in everything. she then told me "oh what so you dont care about anyone or need to feel anything?" so i said "yeah, i dont need a fairy tale, hypocritical god to use as a crutch to get me through life and make me feel like im loved". that was ballsy thing number one. next they proclaim "YOU ARE A CHRISTIAN AND YOU WILL BELIEVE IN GOD!" so i yell "No i am not, and i never will believe in god".


i dont remember the rest but thats pretty much how it went.



during the service......the priest was ranting on and on about something untill he said:

"we must feel for autistic children, and children afflicted with downs syndrome, children who are deaf and mute, for they will not open themselves up and let god love them; let the world love them"


so basically he said that we have the choice of whether we want to be retarded or not. lol. i lost every ounce of respect for priests i almost had.

[slayerrules]

Hey xAzagthothx, I do the same thing with my mom and she just laughs or ignores me. Sometimes though she even gets intrigued by my anti-religion points.

[GertrudeMcCrack]

My whole family are atheists, so they don't object. My dad is slightly intimidated by Akercocke though!

[coypu]

My mother kindof beleives in god but she's not a christian and my father is a pure Atheist. When I lived home it was usually me and my brother complaining about our parents bad ethics and not the other way around, I'm very glad that my parents aren't hardcore christians.

[Ozmodius]

I'm in a class full of hardcore christians. It's hell. Ugh....

[coypu]

If any one is interesting in seeing some mindblasting drumming by Morgan Ågren acompanied by Fredrik Thordendal (Meshuggah) then get this clip : Trum (http://galaxen.net/~coypu/musik/Morgan_%c5gren_&_Fredrik_Thordendal_-_Sol_Niger_Within_Medley_(from_TRUM).mpg) , Morgan is the guy who played drums on Fredrik Thordendals solo album Sol Niger Within,

[xAzagthothx]

i just played Sol Niger Within to my guitar teacher today......he was quite perplexed. he figured out one thing that Thordendal does tho that makes his solos ****in crazy....which is ****attention fellow guitarists**** He will play in say...Phrygian then switch to a bit of Ionian.....mirror scales. if u play say....4 notes up in Phrygian....go 4 Ionian....then 4 Phrygian....etc etc. very very cool

[Jondur]

errrr.... sounds very nice Azagthoth, all well beyond my playing ability tho'!

The Christianity/Satanism debate is possibly the least interesting one in the world. **** all to do with music. I quite liked the whole thing on the first Deicide (it's kinda cool to scream "Nail Him!") but now I am soooo bored of it. Especially when people say anyone who sings about Satan is a black metal band! Which is crap - Deicide, Morbid Angel, Krisiun, Akercocke (although they have had some blackish bits), Black Sabbath, Motley Crue and the Rolling Stones have all had some songs about Satan and none are black metal!

There is no real religion of Satanism: Lavey created some life theology based on Crowley - esque Doing what thou wilt but he added the Satan bit to make it more exciting for bored middle aged men who wanted to have more kinky sex. The only real reference to Satan is in The Bible, which has got to make you start wondering whether he really exists.

It's time for it to stop really. Sing about what you want - scream Satan if you want but don't go around saying that you're oppressed by Christian society, all you really mean is that mummy won't let you wear your Cradle of Filth t-shirt when you go to see your Gran!

[GertrudeMcCrack]

Well said. I was going to mention this a while ago, but i kind of forgot: has anyone else had trouble at gigs with people wearing spiky wrist things etc. down the front? I have an impressive scar from some guy jumping around at Dillinger earlier this month wearing a wrist thing.

[mick7]

Yes! It happened to me when I saw fear factory at the palace last year! Some guy jumped on my head and I got scratches all down my nose... FEAR FACTORY STILL RULE!!! R.I.P.

[xAzagthothx]

slipknot isnt metal.



yeah....i think all those people are pretty gay....wanna be goths with all the leather belts and spikes necklaces and ****. its whats killed black metal.....**** like what Cradle Of Filth inspires kids to do by acting all gloomy and dark. if you truly are a black head, you dont need to try and act like that.


worst thing ive had is some fat hesher punch me in my forehead in a pit. i punched him back and he gave me a thumbs up and left.....go figure.

[Bobogrande1234]

Cocohead

[xAzagthothx]

Cocohead? thats a new one on me.....



slipknot still isnt metal. heheh

[GertrudeMcCrack]

Whoever gets to make the next post is very lucky indeed. Just look at the number, it's an omen, i tells ya!

[slayerrules]

I like Death Metal.

[IanoDublin]

The 666th post! Oh crap now I've ruined it. 667. Slipknot are suck-metal. :lol:

[slayerrules]

Hey guys, here's something I found to be a little weird. Today I was reading through Revolver magazine and they had an interview with George Fisher of Cannibal Corpse. So I read it and was kinda amazed by what he said. They asked him if he was into "gore." He said no, and that he was very disturbed by gore and death. He said that he's watched the "Faces of Death" films (films showing people die in real life and gorey circumstances, never seen them myself) and they were very sick to him.

I found this odd coming from a guy that sings for one of the goriest bands out there. But he brought up good points about how people need to stop taking lyrics so seriously and just listen to the band. I was still amazed though.

[Terminal Spirit]

Death Metal is the king of all genres of music. My favorites are:

True Death:
Nile
Opeth
Obituary
Vital Remains
Garden of Shadows
Death
Kataklysm
Iniquity

Melodic Death
In Flames
At the Gates
Gates of Ishtar
Ebony Tears
Kalmah
The Crown/Crown of Thorns
Quo Vadis
Winter Bestowed
Inhuman Visions
The haunted

Gore/porno/death grind
Abuse
Cryptopsy
Gorguts
Goratory
Gorgasm
Carcass
Thorazine
Cephalic Carnage
****....I'm dead
Blood Duster

dude, Corporal Compendia, you like Zimmers Hole? Sweet ****. The Legion of Flames album is ****ing great. Some pretty hilarious stuff

[Jondur]

Regarding the spiky armband thing I once ran into Legion from Marduk at Wacken and when I say ran into I mean literally ran into!! And it hurt.

Fear Factory are **** and always were a bit **** so thank god (or satan I don't want that debate to start up again) they've gone!

Welcome Terminal Spirit - a man who names himself after 2 thirds of a classic album is alright by me! Did you ever hear Eucharist? They were a stunning band. One of the best because they didn't fall into the happy type stuff a la In Flames etc. They had melody but they kept it dark!

[xAzagthothx]

WHERES THE MORBID ANGEL YOU IDIOT?????????????





i fail to see why people dont like Fear Factory. what is it about them? Raymond is one of the sickest drummers ive ever heard and Burton has an amazing voice. Dino's riffs are just geniously created. i love em. ill take Demanufacture to my grave....*along with every Morbid Angel album...* heh

[GertrudeMcCrack]

Originally posted by Terminal Spirit
Gore/porno/death grind
Abuse
Cryptopsy
Gorguts
Goratory
Gorgasm
Carcass
Thorazine
Cephalic Carnage
****....I'm dead
Blood Duster

How can you talk about gore without mentioning Cannibal Corpse!?! :eek: Oh well, each to his own i guess!

[xAzagthothx]

does anyone know where i can get some Suffocation tabs, pics, videos, etc etc?

[Terminal Spirit]

WHERES THE MORBID ANGEL YOU IDIOT?????????????

****, guess I typed that too fast and missed a few things such as:
Mortician
Morbid Angel
Napalm Death
Regurgitation
Seven Gates
Disgorge
Suffocation
Cannibal Corpse
Devilium
Ebolism

Did you ever hear Eucharist?

I've been meaning to check them out for some time actually, heard lots of good things. What's a good song to start with?

[mutilator]

i got this from Metal Update newsletter:

VITAL REMAINS
Glen Benton (Deicide) recently laid down the vocal tracks for Vital
Remains' forthcoming album 'Dechristianize' at Morrisound Recordings -
aside from Benton, the recording lineup consisted of Tony Lazaro on
guitars and David Suzuki on guitars, leads, bass and drums - in Tony's
words: "We'd just like to say eternal thanks to Glen for doing such a
****ing killer job, and to the rest of the guys in Deicide for being cool
about Glen doing the record! This record is for our fans, and the true
Metal Underground!!! Hail Satan!!!"


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
most of you probably knew this but this was a news for me. i wonder how the album's going to be like with Benton on vocals

[Jondur]

Hey Terminal Spirit. You should start with the whole Mirrorworlds album! But one of the best songs is "Dissolving" God knows where you'll find it on the net though.

I always thought Burton had the worst voice I've ever heard! His growls are **** and as for that godawful croon he passes off as singing ... the riffs are simplistic and cliched ( I would have thought Dino's guitar playing would be a total nightmare for a man who worships Tray Azagthoth!) and the drumming is basically a computer! Raymond plays to a click and then they put it back through a computer which corrects all timing errors to the nth degree. They really should have got a drum machine!

Anyway - each to their own! Their first album wasn't too bad I suppose. Did you check out Throne of Nails Azagthoth? Mithras are another good band you might like.

[xAzagthothx]

jondur can you link me to those bands?


i dont know....i just love Fear Factory. sure Dino's guitar parts are relatively simple, but its feeling that counts. he has so much of that. also about Rays drumming....he plays everything triggered. you may say its all fixed by a computer, but hell he pulled it off superbly live. so i dont really care lol.

[GertrudeMcCrack]

Yeah, that's pretty close to my opinion. I think their recorded output is good, i don't listen to it too often, but their live show puts them in my top 10 bands, for sure.

[slayerrules]

Hey xAzagthothx, can you recommend some Fear Factory songs. Thanks.

One more thing, do you post on the Morbid angel board?

[GertrudeMcCrack]

Originally posted by slayerrules
Hey xAzagthothx, can you recommend some Fear Factory songs. Thanks.Check out Martyr, Scapegoat, Scumgrief, Suffer Age, Demanufacture, Zero Signal, and A Therapy For Pain. That should get you started!

[xAzagthothx]

Originally posted by slayerrules
Hey xAzagthothx, can you recommend some Fear Factory songs. Thanks.

One more thing, do you post on the Morbid angel board?



songs:

Martyr
Big God/Raped Souls
Demanufacture
Self Bias Resistor
Zero Signal
Pisschrist
Shock
Edgecrusher
Hi-Tech Hate
Securitron (Police State 2000)


yes, i do post on the Morbid Angel BB. i havent been there in a while, but my name is ContinumGuitarist. who might you be?




does ANYONE know where i can get Suffocation info? and Jondur, can you link me those bands?

[slayerrules]

thanks for the songs. I got Shock and its pretty cool. I'll get more soon.

I haven't signed up yet but I'm thinking about it. I already belong to like 3 other boards so I don't know if I will.

[Corporal Compendia]

Don't know if they've been talked about but...

Anyone like Demilich? If not, you should.

[xAzagthothx]

never heard of them. last night tho i yoinked Rotting Christ's cd "Khronus 666" from FYE. VERYYYY GOOD black metal. veyr very very good. i highly recommend these people to anyone. somewhat a mix of Emperor, Mayhem, and Burzum. totally awesome stuff

[Corporal Compendia]

Never heard Demilich? ****, you need to check them out... unique band. They're also known for having the lowest growls. I have no idea how he does it... heh. I'm sure Coypu would love this guy's vocals.

Try downloading.. well... anything. They only have 1 album, and pretty much everything on it is great.

[coypu]

Originally posted by xAzagthothx
does ANYONE know where i can get Suffocation info? and Jondur, can you link me those bands?

Some tabs : http://www.singularitymetaltab.net/tab.php

Apart from that all I can find are a few reviews and interviews and a few photos. If you find any videos let me know!

[xAzagthothx]

sweeet man THANKS so much!!!! i love that site

[Embodyment]

...deathmetal1

[xAzagthothx]

?

[coypu]

Not much action here lately so I hope that you don't mind me going abit off topic. Summer is comming soon and after that I need to have worked out a nice song to play and since I am a bassplayer the basstab is no problem but I need a guitar tab preferably made in powertab for Spastic Ink - Eight is enough, the song is really easy and I do not even need the guitar solo in the end so it should be easy to tab.

Spastic Ink - Eight is Enough (http://galaxen.net/~coypu/musik/spastic%20ink%20-%20eighths%20is%20enough.mp3)

Any help is appreciated!

[Jondur]

Sorry for the delay Azagthoth. Throne of nails have a website at www.throneofnails.com

Mithras haven't got a website yet but they will have soon. They are a great band - sort of left of field death metal like Morbid Angels more experimental moments but I think they're great (nothing to do with them being label mates or anything:-) I will post a link when their site's up and running.

BTW "Thy Mighty Contract" is the best Rotting Christ album IMO.

[mick7]

OLD SEPULTURA - GET INTO IT!!!

[GertrudeMcCrack]

Originally posted by mick7
OLD SEPULTURA - GET INTO IT!!! <--- Already have :D! Apparently the new stuff is in the Arise style, with Derrick Green doing proper rhythm guitar parts now. Oh yes.

[PimpDaddyKabZ]

Anybody heard of Arch Enemy?

[coypu]

Originally posted by PimpDaddyKabZ
Anybody heard of Arch Enemy?

Sure, Mike Amot was in Carcass before so it is hard miss it, I do however think that there are better bands out there but I'm sure that all fans of death metal 'light' loves it.

[PimpDaddyKabZ]

Originally posted by coypu
Not much action here lately so I hope that you don't mind me going abit off topic. Summer is comming soon and after that I need to have worked out a nice song to play and since I am a bassplayer the basstab is no problem but I need a guitar tab preferably made in powertab for Spastic Ink - Eight is enough, the song is really easy and I do not even need the guitar solo in the end so it should be easy to tab.

Spastic Ink - Eight is Enough (http://galaxen.net/~coypu/musik/spastic%20ink%20-%20eighths%20is%20enough.mp3)

Any help is appreciated!

yes....

please look in the Tab Talk section in my thread......what about E Minor, Johann?

[xAzagthothx]

everything after Morbid Visions is sub par anyway....so

[coypu]

Originally posted by PimpDaddyKabZ
yes....

please look in the Tab Talk section in my thread......what about E Minor, Johann?

Well I want someone to tab E-minor but it seems like no one is up to it but Eight is enough sounds pretty easy and repetitive so I was hoping someone could do this one atleast.

[PimpDaddyKabZ]

Originally posted by coypu


Well I want someone to tab E-minor but it seems like no one is up to it but Eight is enough sounds pretty easy and repetitive so I was hoping someone could do this one atleast.


...hopefully

[Jondur]

I'm going watching Arch Enemy with Opeth headlining on Wednesday! It should be a good night.

[mick7]

I am goin to the big gods metal massacre in melbourne soon!
http://11820.net/biggod/

[Ozmodius]

Lucky Bastard!

[xAzagthothx]

mmmm that show looks pretty killer. its been a dream of mine to one day make it to Wacken. that would just....kill babies. that and the New England Metal and Hardcore Fest or the Milwaukee Metalfest. mmmmm metal mmmmm

[slayerrules]

I'm going to Milwaukee Metal fest. I would also LOVE to go to Wacken.

[RAMONES4LIFE]

obituary
deicide
morbid angel
entombed
DEATH

[Corporal Compendia]

http://www.homestead.com/_ksi0701961501847408/redemptioncity/files/Demilich_-_Nespithe_-_07_-_And_You_ll_Remain...__In_Pieces_Of_Nothingness_.m p3

That's it!!! Download the song!!!!

\m/ Demilich \m/

[coypu]

Does anyone here like Jazz Death?

[Bartender]

Never heard of it before. Sounds...interesting, tho.

What bands are there that do Jazz Death?

[coypu]

Atheist - They invented it all and while Cynic are more technical Atheist always had the best songs (broke up '93).

..and the psychic saw (http://galaxen.net/~coypu/musik/atheist%20-%20And%20The%20Psychic%20Saw.mp3)

Water (http://galaxen.net/~coypu/musik/Atheist%20-%20Water.mp3)

Cynic - They took what atheist did but alot further and ventured into ultra technical (Atheist where only very technical) jazz fusion death and are still to this day unmatched (they broke up '94).

Veil of Maya (http://galaxen.net/~coypu/musik/Cynic%20-%20Focus%20-%2001%20-%20Veil%20Of%20Maya.mp3)

Uroboric Forms (http://galaxen.net/~coypu/musik/Cynic%20-%20Focus%20-%2006%20-%20Uroboric%20Forms.mp3)

Pestilence - They became jazz death after hearing Atheist and "stole" atheist bassplayer and became technical, Kelly of Atheist was not happy about this at all... (they broke up '93)

Personal Energy (http://galaxen.net/~coypu/musik/pestilence%20-%20Personal%20Energy.mp3)

Changing Perspectives (http://galaxen.net/~coypu/musik/pestilence%20-%20Changing%20Perspectives.mp3)

Theese are the greatest, there are a few bands that are less great but still worthy but start with theese ones if you are interested.

[xAzagthothx]

yes jazz death metal sure is some interesting stuff.


hey ive got some news for fellow guitarists here:

Morbid Angel now endorses Line6. yes. ive looked at some very recent pictures of Trey and Erik and each had a Line6 full stack behind them. Trey also had an ancient marshall head....looked like a Plexi. donno if it was a reissue or not. and he had a huge rack too.

[slayerrules]

Yea I like that jazz death stuff. Cynic and Atheist are both cool bands. I think I like Atheist better though.

[JDOG]

holy s***
i had no idea there was such a thing as jazz death
jazz = abstract, intricate, complicated, strange chords
death = abstract, somewhat intricate, complicated, strange tunings

i guess it sounds reasonable.
but the two dont sound the same
so......
someone explain

[coypu]

Originally posted by JDOG
holy s***
i had no idea there was such a thing as jazz death
jazz = abstract, intricate, complicated, strange chords
death = abstract, somewhat intricate, complicated, strange tunings

i guess it sounds reasonable.
but the two dont sound the same
so......
someone explain

Start with downloading the songs in my earlier post and listen for yourself. Jazz suffers alot from improvisation and the lack of good structure and metal is often very one dimensional so by adding more freeform layers but maintaining the non improvised base you can create well planned organized freeform music that often end up with amazing results. You'll get the idea once you hear the music,

[xAzagthothx]

the thread is dieing here.....


NILE IN 2 MONTHS!!!!!!!!! JUDAS PRIEST IN 1!!!!!! 6 FEET UNDER IN 24 DAYS!!

[slayerrules]

If I have enough money, I might check Six Feet Under out. I'm going to a show the next day though, so it might be kinda tight.

As for Nile, I might see them twice, since I heard they might play at Milwaukee Metal Fest. Great concerts this summer!!

xAzagthothx, did you catch the Morbid Angel tour with Motorhead. It was 18 and over hear so I couldn't go. pisses me off.

[Ozmodius]

Originally posted by coypu
Does anyone here like Jazz Death?

Yeah, especially Atheist. Can you recommend any other bands to download?!

[coypu]

Originally posted by Ozmodius
Yeah, especially Atheist. Can you recommend any other bands to download?!

Coprofago
Meshuggah
Esicastic
Exivious
Nocturnus , not sure how much jazz death they actually are but they should attract the same kind of fans.

theese are in no way in the same class as Atheist still worth checking out.

[IanoDublin]

Jazz Death Metal? What's that like?

[coypu]

Originally posted by IanoDublin
Jazz Death Metal? What's that like?

Download the songs I posted and you should get the idea.

[Jondur]

Saw Opeth, Arch Enemy and Withering Surface last night. Withering surface were rubbish - far too happy and poppy and not forgetting generic. Arch Enemy were good, excellent drumming and guitar heroics but vocals are still a bit weak. Opeth are one of the few bands I prefer live. Vocals were spot on, sound was clear enough to hear all the harmonies. Excellent songs, well performed. The very definition of "prog - death"! Or maybe just prog metal before you start going on about them not being death metal - it was however how they started out.

I've been a bit disturbed by a tendency to put Opeth down as "newbie" death metal. I think they are far too intricate for that. In fact their current surge in popularity is a bit baffling - they're certainly not the sort of thing you'd expect kids to be getting into as a first extreme metal band. Oh well it can only be a good thing.

[slayerrules]

Awesome. Glad to hear the show was cool. Arch Enemy's gonna be here in a few months.

[Ozmodius]

Originally posted by coypu


Coprofago
Meshuggah
Esicastic
Exivious
Nocturnus , not sure how much jazz death they actually are but they should attract the same kind of fans.

theese are in no way in the same class as Atheist still worth checking out.

Thanks man!

[coypu]

Originally posted by Jondur
I've been a bit disturbed by a tendency to put Opeth down as "newbie" death metal. I think they are far too intricate for that. In fact their current surge in popularity is a bit baffling - they're certainly not the sort of thing you'd expect kids to be getting into as a first extreme metal band. Oh well it can only be a good thing.

Well the same things are said about bands like : Cannibal Corpse & Nile, [Dimmu Borgir & Cradle of Filth - newbie black M.] and you just have to live with it, some bands just happen to appeal to people new to the genre and therefor it is newbie metal and not much more to it. And Opeth are abit like soft death metal so people who aren't into the brutal stuff can easily get into it and with the wave of Tool and similar Opeth lies perfect in time.

[mick7]

Coypu all I can say is well put mate. :)

(P.S. OPETH RULE)

[Jondur]

I don't think they are a soft death metal band though. I think they're a progressive, intricate, atmospheric metal band with some parts that verge on death metal. I would say easy listening death metal is the likes of Heartwork, Domination and World Demise.

[coypu]

Originally posted by Jondur
I don't think they are a soft death metal band though. I think they're a progressive, intricate, atmospheric metal band with some parts that verge on death metal. I would say easy listening death metal is the likes of Heartwork, Domination and World Demise.

As in Carcass - Heartwork and Morbid Angel - Domination?

Here in sweden we have a lame band called bo kasters orkester which plays something that sound like Bleak 5:21+ and Opeth is the metal version of that band and a far stretch from Carcass & Morbid Angels material. Opeth is not death metal, they are the result of melodic death metal going comercial. I have nothing against the band but compared to stuff like Depresy they just look very weak. Opeth have in my voew lost the intensity of metal and gone into something that is more dull, this can work with certain bands if the compensate with a great deal of emotion (like burzum) or are very experimental & odd but I just can't find any qualities in Opeth that makes me want to listen to them regurlarly. If this comes out harsh it was never intended so, it is just my view and not a condemnation of either the band or their fans.

[PimpDaddyKabZ]

Someone name some Morbid Angel songs that really show Azagtoth's technical ability....

[coypu]

Originally posted by PimpDaddyKabZ
Someone name some Morbid Angel songs that really show Azagtoth's technical ability....

Invocation of the continual one is probably a good choice until xAzagthothx arives since he knows Treys stuff alot better than me.

Covenant of death is pretty cool too so try that one too.

[PimpDaddyKabZ]

Originally posted by coypu


Invocation of the continual one is probably a good choice until xAzagthothx arives since he knows Treys stuff alot better than me.

Covenant of death is pretty cool too so try that one too.

Checking them out now

[slayerrules]

God of Emptiness is a good Mobid Angel song.

[slayerrules]

Thats Morbid Angel, not Mobid Angel.

[coypu]

There is a edit button that you can use to edit your posts.

Pimp: Trey have released a album with only his solos on it called Love of Lava or similar, it could be a good idea to that out if you wanto hear his solos without getting all the full songs.

[xAzagthothx]

heheheheheh my specialty


from "Altars Of Madness"

Immortal Rites
Suffocation
Chapel Of Ghouls

"Blessed Are The Sick"

Fall From Grace
Thy Kingdom Come
The Ancient Ones

"Covenant"

Rapture
Angel Of Disease
Sworn To The Black
God Of Emptiness

"Domination"

Where The Slime Live
Eyes To See
Ceasar's Palace

"Formulas Fatal To The Flesh"

Heaving Earth
Prayer Of Hatred
Bil Ur Sag
Nothing Is Not
Chambers Of Dis
Umulamahri
Hellspawn: The Rebirth
Covenant Of Death
Hymn To A Gas Giant
Invocation Of The Continual One
Ascent Through The Spheres

"Gateways To Annihilation"

Summoning Redemption
Ageless, Still I Am
He Who Sleeps
I
Secured Limitations




whew. yeah any of those should be fine....ranging from his retardedly fast stuff to his slime driven slow sludge with all of his godly solos inbetween. especially check out anything from "Formulas...." its truly an amazing cd.


enjoy

[Jondur]

Hey Coypu, offence will not be taken don't worry. Yeah I meant Cracass "Heartwork" and Morbid Angel "Domination" as examples of bands simplifying their sound for commercial gain. I think Opeth have become less commercial - man it's basically prog now! But regardless once again I couldn't agree more with your recommendation of Depresy - if anyone here hasn't heard them you really should check them out!
You might like The Belonging as well (www.thebelonging.co.uk) - their recordings are a bit rough soundwise but the potential is there.

[Mardy]

It shocked me when I saw a Morbid Angel music video on MTV!!!
It was "where the slime lives"

[Jondur]

Yeah I saw God of Emptiness on MTV once - shame it was one of their worst songs. I'd much rather of heard "World of ****" or Blessed are the Sick which are songs PimpDaddywhatever should definitely be checking out.

[slayerrules]

You Don't like God of Emptiness? I think its an awesome song. What do you not like about it?

[xAzagthothx]

??????????????? r u batty????? God Of Emptiness is an awesome song. Morbid Angel's videos used to be on MTV all the time...."Rapture" and "God Of Emptiness" won awards on Headbangers Ball. i really like their videos although the "Where The Slime Live Video" didnt really do much for me except the close up of Trey's solo....mmmm ****ing own.

if you want a ton of videos and mp3s and info on morbid angel, the best site i can offer you is http://angemorbide.fr.free its absolutey the best site. its even got Trey's bio!


heres something, can anyone here play ANY of trey's solos? the closest ones i can get are his slow trem picked ones like in "At One With Nothing" and i can somewhat do the "Rapture" solol. im guessing tho NOBODY can touch any of the solos on "Formulas Fatal To The Flesh". that cd....its jus....wow. its inhuman. trey is Perfect.

[coypu]

Originally posted by xAzagthothx
heres something, can anyone here play ANY of trey's solos? the closest ones i can get are his slow trem picked ones like in "At One With Nothing" and i can somewhat do the "Rapture" solol. im guessing tho NOBODY can touch any of the solos on "Formulas Fatal To The Flesh". that cd....its jus....wow. its inhuman. trey is Perfect.

Nope but I play bass so I hope that I am excused.

The Trooper claimed that the MA solos wasn't that hard but he also claimed that he could play Cynic so I guess that he is full of **** and plain wrong (I still like him though).

Well I'm off on vacation tomorrow so see you all in 10 weeks.

[Overdosed on S.O.A.D.]

Originally posted by coypu


Coprofago
Meshuggah
Esicastic
Exivious
Nocturnus , not sure how much jazz death they actually are but they should attract the same kind of fans.

theese are in no way in the same class as Atheist still worth checking out.

Meshuggah is Jazz Death? i didn't know that...
but i do remember my friend (who is a huge jazz fan) saying that Meshuggah sounded jazz-like

MESHUGGAH!

[fufanu_boy]

I found Cryptopsy's none so vile in the record shop yesterday, i was very surprised and excited, they have two of the newer (new and too expensive) ones with mike but they never had any of the lord worm albums, and none so vile was second hand so it was cheap.

And i found cannibal corpses vile there too digipack with hammer smashed face live, witch i was very happy about too because it was second hand and cheap.

p.s isnt vile the 1st album with the corpse grinder?
i love his singing.

[coypu]

Originally posted by fufanu_boy
p.s isnt vile the 1st album with the corpse grinder?
i love his singing.

Yes it is his first, I too like Corpsegrinder but many doesn't for some reason. Check out Monstriosity too since they are somewhat like Cannibal Corpse and had Corpsegrinder of vocals too.

[coypu]

Originally posted by Overdosed on S.O.A.D.
Meshuggah is Jazz Death? i didn't know that...
but i do remember my friend (who is a huge jazz fan) saying that Meshuggah sounded jazz-like

MESHUGGAH!

Listen to Fredrik Thordendals solo album and compare it with Allan Holdsworth, you will see where Fredrik got his inspiration. But bands like Cynic have alot more jazz influences but Meshuggah have alot too that shows here and there, and very often in the leads.

[xAzagthothx]

Thordendal totally ripped Holdsworth's lead style.....so in a sense they are jazz death.


2nd page???? GET WITH IT PEOPLE!!!

[Overdosed on S.O.A.D.]

Originally posted by coypu


Listen to Fredrik Thordendals solo album and compare it with Allan Holdsworth, you will see where Fredrik got his inspiration. But bands like Cynic have alot more jazz influences but Meshuggah have alot too that shows here and there, and very often in the leads.

Yeah, now that I think about it, Acrid Placidity sounds very Jazz-like. One of my favorite songs, even though there is no singing.

[fufanu_boy]

Is none so vile cryptopsy's best album?

[mick7]

Everyone I have to tell you to listen to this song it is simply the most beautiful song I have ever heard!

Harvest by Opeth...simply beautiful...

[slayerrules]

Originally posted by fufanu_boy
Is none so vile cryptopsy's best album?

Yes.

[xAzagthothx]

whats with the overflow of retard posts here? and whats with coypus decision to leave? i never got a chance to read his post about it.


does anyone know who Nile's new singer is? their website has been down for quite sometime.

[slayerrules]

Coypu's on vacation. He'll be back in 10 weeks. What do you mean retard posts?

[DarkClownofDeath]

Who cares all death metal blows

[DarkClownofDeath]

But i understand why its called death metal because all of the people who play it should die

[slayerrules]

To anybody that normally posts in this thread....

Just ignore the two posts by...lets call him "Idiot". Lets just keeping talking about one of the greatest musical genre's and ignore the whores.

[big69]

death metal rules you dumb ****, you just dont have a big enough brain to comprehend it.

if you dont want to get into death metal, fine with me. But if you dont like it, go away. you are ruining a sweet thread

[slayerrules]

Yes, thats why we ignore him.