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airborne50caliber
05-05-2005, 10:58 AM
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any1 know what model this neumann is?
MartinC
05-05-2005, 12:24 PM
I apologise in advance if this has already been posted, but does anybody know how to sing like Jeff Walker from Carcass or Alexi Laiho from Children of Bodom without totally ruining your throat? I can sort of do it but after a while it starts to strain my throat a little so I figure I must be doing it wrong.
EatYourFace
05-05-2005, 03:04 PM
Hey, I still want some advice on punk singing (melodic). Influences are Pennywise, Deviates, Cigar, Lagwagon, and other good melodic but not poppy bands. Please, anybody...
airborne50caliber
05-06-2005, 02:15 AM
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any1 know what model this neumann is?
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IMONXTC
05-14-2005, 12:11 AM
dont know if this was covered bcz i dont have time to read all 21 pages, but i have been singing since i can rember and in chorus for 2 years. im a bass. i can hit some really low notes and have a great range, and good pitch. im usually dead on with the note im trng to get but i think the problem is, somehow, my voice is to high pitched. i sound like a per-pubescent little boy. that would be okay if we were an emo band but we arent. i dont think this can be helped but if there is any way to fix this tell me please. (my drummer is gonna read this in about five minutes and laugh.)
how old are you? what is your range?
James Van Halen
05-18-2005, 12:01 AM
This might have already been covered, but I don't feel like searching the whole topic. Are there any tips on growling? How to do it well? Like say Akerfeldt?
I can do it fairly decently, but there's always room for improvement.
Merkaba
05-18-2005, 01:40 AM
This might have already been covered, but I don't feel like searching the whole topic. Are there any tips on growling? How to do it well? Like say Akerfeldt?
I can do it fairly decently, but there's always room for improvement.
Youre right! It has already been covered. But youre like me, I dont really feel like repeating it either! :thumb:
Theres not much you can do with cords. You close em up, push air against them to vibrate them. Everything else relies on strength and be able to isolate the cords' muscles from the throat/larynx muslces. http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=219911
FeralCats
05-18-2005, 09:01 PM
Hey, I can hit a High A fairly easily on good days...and I think I can do a High B.
However, I would like to increase my vocal range up to an E, or at least a C...do you know any excersises to increase my range? Things to know-
I am male.
I am fine with screaming.
I'd like to do this High C-E in Head voice.
Nick Morzov
05-19-2005, 12:22 PM
Hey, I can hit a High A fairly easily on good days...and I think I can do a High B.
However, I would like to increase my vocal range up to an E, or at least a C...do you know any excersises to increase my range? Things to know-
I am male.
I am fine with screaming.
I'd like to do this High C-E in Head voice.
that's quite the tough request for a forum lesson, try and "strech your chest voice until it cracks, more or less find the crack in your range from chest to head voice. Use a piano to find out what exact note, so that way you can work on it. Eventually practicing that will make the transition stronger, as well as your head voice. An other trick for the strech so it doesn't sound as airy, try and use more nasal, i know a lot say you're not supposed to, but that's because most don't do it right, sing out of your top teeth is that makes sense, not through them, out of them... use a little nose and a little mouth so the sound really is in between the two.. hard to explain. If you can sing through the nose and strech your chest voice's transition you'll be up there, you'll also be a great singer for just about any type of music
Be careful with screaming though. You have to make sure a majority of your air comes from your stomach and most of the distortion comes from a low strain in your throat, that way you're not really doing TOO much to your actual voice as much as other parts of your throat. I got a node from screaming and singing the wrong way and now i'm paying, i can't sing for this band i'm in for a while... :upset:
LleWeLLyN
05-22-2005, 02:34 PM
Come on llewellyn, i think I could sing my immortal! And no, that was someone else that was mentioning a program. By best advice is to record yourself acapella. Nothing like it. Takes all the sugar coating and crutches away and teaches control immediately. Try it.
Hahaha! I'm SERIOUS! it just doesn't wanna work with me! You know.. i dunno what Amy Lee does, she kinda pushes it hard but mutes it or sumthing.. She does it in alot of her songs.. Gets annoying.. A capella is great.. i sang it a capella on the second night.. The first night of the performance i did it with the music and messed up.. I get too lost in the music.. :P :rolleyes: our talent show is next week and i need to get over my STAGE fright! My voice gets tight and i start shaking! How the hell do i get over it.. my friend said focus on what ur doing and pretend ur singing to someone in the audience u usually sing to..
wileycoyote
07-20-2005, 10:19 AM
how can i improve my singing? i cant really sing notes. any help?
LadyHaphazard
07-22-2005, 09:41 AM
Hi! Just found here... It's great!
Anyway, seeing as everyone's helpful, I'm hoping people can help me out :D
Does anyone have any suggestions for singing in Japanese? I'm singing a lot of Gackt, Malice Mizer and TRAX (to the frustation of other people in my vocal class cos they don't understand WHAT I'm singing :D) at the moment.
Which leads to my next issue. For vocals, we're singing to recordings. I find that I have to 'compete' with the recording, making it hard for me to get my voice higher like my teacher told me to. I'd probably sound better singing something like Hillary Duff, but that will only happen over my dead body. Any way to not compete with the recording?
EDIT: Oh yeah, while I remember... Can females sing in falsetto? Probably a stupid question, but I'm curious
And finally, some advice for those with confidence issues. Try to get lessons where you're in a group with supportive people. You'll find it a lot easier to sing in front of small groups of people.
Thanks for listening & helping in advance :D
~Sarah
PunkyMcEmo
07-22-2005, 02:34 PM
how can i improve my singing? i cant really sing notes. any help?
well you obviously can sing notes. you speak notes. to sing notes, read some of silver's voice exercises at the beginning of the thread. do you mean like, being on tune? i guarantee you anyone can hit notes. being on tune is tricky. you have to hear it. play C on your guitar (the one on the A string) and try to match your tone to it. get one of those electric tuners if you have to. being on tune kinda just comes naturally after singing. practice matching notes, and eventually youll sing on tune to songs without thinking about it.
VERY few people are truly tone deaf, so just practice
well you obviously can sing notes. you speak notes. to sing notes, read some of silver's voice exercises at the beginning of the thread. do you mean like, being on tune? i guarantee you anyone can hit notes. being on tune is tricky. you have to hear it. play C on your guitar (the one on the A string) and try to match your tone to it. get one of those electric tuners if you have to. being on tune kinda just comes naturally after singing. practice matching notes, and eventually youll sing on tune to songs without thinking about it.
VERY few people are truly tone deaf, so just practice
that was very inspiring and motivational. you are a good person.
PunkSkater163
07-26-2005, 01:55 PM
Hey. I was wondering if any one could give me any points on how to make my voice a little better. My voice is preatty bad, and even when it comes out good its just really dull and boring. I want my voice to be a little more cooler, and better haha. I saw before your style of music matters so the style of music im going for is like punk. I want my voice to sound like not exactly raspy but soething like that, like Tom Delonge's voice sort of. Can any one please give me any pointers?
Loser Boy Jay
07-26-2005, 04:04 PM
Hey Mx'ers
I am seriously thinking of starting an interactive web based rock vocal clinic...
when I will take on a limited # of talented young singers & work with them to develop their chops, skills, & vocal techniques.
I want to make it affordable , accessible, & want to make sure, you really DO learn something..
Do you think there is a need for something like this..
If so, I would appreciate your comments or suggestions on what would work for you...
Thanks,
Jay Link
I love the idea, I know need something like this.
Screamin_Demon_Auz
07-26-2005, 05:09 PM
Jay Link has already started that I think Loser Boy Jay. www.rock-vocals.com
Alexcrex
10-07-2005, 11:01 AM
Wow!!
It took me a week to read through this whole thread, and i must say it is just wonderful, i copied the most interesting ones to read more carefully and practice the tips given.
I live in Brazil and there's not much info on rock singing around here...
Special thanks to Sliver and Merkaba who help the most. In a few days i'll post a clip of my (poor) singing and i'll ask you (and whoever wants) to tell me what's necessary to improve, if possible (if it's possible for YOU to listen, not for me to improve...i'm pretty sure of that! Heheuhuehe :lol: ).
I just don't get these people saying "I don't feel like searching the whole topic"...wtf...
Cheers everyone! :thumb:
Alexandre
http://www.fotolog.net/alexcrex
RyMac59
10-08-2005, 02:56 PM
How do you improve tone of voice? My pitch isnt bad but it doesnt sound that good.... im not sure if im explaining this well
TheJarve
03-17-2006, 02:19 AM
hey guys, how are you, i have some questions. i'm a singer, and i can sing on tune fairly well. however there have been a couple of songs of late that have one or two lines that are a lot higher than the rest of the song, and i've played it back and listened and i haven't hit those notes at all, my voice isn't rising to anywhere near that pitch. and i've noticed when i sing it i get a tightness in my chest. any explanations?
Surgicalgod
03-17-2006, 06:41 AM
Yes what you're doing is called pulling up chest voice. Those notes are outside of your vocal range. Read Merkaba's Voice Hotline for more information to improve your singing and vocal range.
Guitar_fool202
03-18-2006, 11:58 PM
can someone send me a word or wordpad doc of all the lessons in this thread? i have to work all weekend so i dont have time to. whoever does this thanks!
Billitteri
09-21-2006, 03:07 AM
Well, it looks like this thread died off about 6 months ago, lol, but I figure I'll give it a try anyways. I don't sing in a band or a choir or anything, but I sing a lot in the car and when I'm home alone. My chest voice reaches over two octaves and my falsetto (I think) pulls me up to around 3.5.
I guess the first thing I want to know is what the difference is between falsetto and head voice and how do I sing head voice.
Other than that, I've been listening to a lot of Queen lately and can hit most of the notes in chest voice, but not all of them. Does anyone have any tips to stretch out my chest range? I'm pretty sure I'm a baritone, but probably a higher one, if that makes any sense.
Snap, one more thing. After singing songs that are out of my range for like 30 minutes in the car, my voice is kinda shot, obviously. But about an hour later, my chest voice range is probably around 3 octaves or more! Suddenly, I have this huge range! Does anyone know why that might be? I'd love to use that without straining my voice in advance.
Thanks for the help!
Merkaba
09-21-2006, 01:40 PM
Well, it looks like this thread died off about 6 months ago, lol, but I figure I'll give it a try anyways. I don't sing in a band or a choir or anything, but I sing a lot in the car and when I'm home alone. My chest voice reaches over two octaves and my falsetto (I think) pulls me up to around 3.5.
I guess the first thing I want to know is what the difference is between falsetto and head voice and how do I sing head voice.
Other than that, I've been listening to a lot of Queen lately and can hit most of the notes in chest voice, but not all of them. Does anyone have any tips to stretch out my chest range? I'm pretty sure I'm a baritone, but probably a higher one, if that makes any sense.
Snap, one more thing. After singing songs that are out of my range for like 30 minutes in the car, my voice is kinda shot, obviously. But about an hour later, my chest voice range is probably around 3 octaves or more! Suddenly, I have this huge range! Does anyone know why that might be? I'd love to use that without straining my voice in advance.
Thanks for the help!
Yea it died off about six months ago because we have an offical singing thread. And there are always at least two or three active voice threads. Obviously you got here from a google search or likewise. Post in the other threads so this one will die off again! But for now...youre not singing queen in chest voice. Chest voice is your mid to low range and you feel the vibrations of resonance in your chest. Head voice is your upper range and you feel the vibrations in your head. Chest and head are considered true, "real" voice. Falsetto is after head and your cords dont fully vibrate, but instead they open up more and more or less cut the air like a wind instrument. noone is going to have a 3 octave chest voice, trust me...but i Know what youre getting at. I would suggest you post a sample in one of the other threads.
How much do you warm up? You could be experiencing the effects of having been warmed up over time. If youre not familiar you might be using falsetto and not really knowing it. Not that any of it ever matters in rock music because its about your delivery and sound. But it is priceless to know where your natural breaks are so that you can work them so you can have a seamless range, allowing you to pull up head or chest or pull down falsetto or head if you "make a mistake". But in any event read around a bit and be sure to visit my little hut....----->http://www.sputnikmusic.com/forums/showthread.php?t=219911
Merkabas Voice-Help Hotline - Music & Musician Forums
musicNEVERdies
09-22-2006, 07:15 PM
I've got an question.When you're having a cough and flu is it better not to sing for awhile?
Im right now is sick and Im dying without my usual singing/vocal excercises.
kidthatplaysguitar91
09-23-2006, 01:38 PM
I've got an question.When you're having a cough and flu is it better not to sing for awhile?
Im right now is sick and Im dying without my usual singing/vocal excercises.
When you have a cough, you want to do a longer warmup than you normally would, Also eating right could help you get better :D
Just make sure you dont overdue it.
musicNEVERdies
09-25-2006, 05:25 AM
thx for the advice.No longer I have my cough,but I'll keep that in mind if Im having another cough.
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