The different genres of metal

[Matyrdom]

who is mustard plug?

[Matyrdom]

what about avant-garde metal!

[FreddieTwoTone]

badass list, i'm not going to bother you with such questions like "why didn't you list the children of bodom under key bands for the black metal section?" but all in all, badass.
I didn't get a chance to read the whole thread, just the first page, and as the big mouthed critic i am, i'll have to reply to some stuff.

System of a Down is half nu-metal, and half whatever else they want to be, their weird dude, they're from Armenia. most Nu-Metal bands don't have the balls to do a swing breakdown with arabian guitar riffs over it.

and Hardcore, oh god.
Hardcore started in the 80's, and at that time, it was faster than punk, because the punk of the 70's wasn't really all that fast, just really raw (which is a nice way of saying sloppy as hell). Since then, punk as sped up a bit, and hardcore actually has slowed down (at certain points). The real main difference is that punk songs pretty much never change tempo, double-time drums the whole song, usually 1 or 2 chord progressions, and nothing spectacular. Hardcore is somewhat simple, but they at least switch it up a bit. If you really want to hear the comparison, download "hello pricks" by Sick Of It All (for hardcore) and for punk download....i dunno, anything by The Casualties, The Unseen, The Virus, anything that starts with "The". Punk bands have the stupidest names. although i guess metal band names aren't that much better.

Like i said, i didn't read the whole thread so i may either be repeating someone else, or maybe you guys just totally changed topic and i feel stupid now.

[FreddieTwoTone]

who is mustard plug?


Mustard Plug was a ska band that was fairly popular during the 3rd wave of ska like in '97 or '98. They never hit the radio, but anyone who was into ska definately at least heard their name mentioned.

But it doesn't matter. Nobody listens to ska anymore.

[crucifine]

Nu-metal
Nu-metal is the newest craze to hit mainstream rock radio. Without trying to bash it too much, generally speaking the music structure is very simplistic. Lyrics cover subjects that are close to todays teens (depression, abuse, drugs etc). There are very few guitar solos and the one's that are there are typically very simple and short. Vocals can range from the more metal influenced to a fusion of metal and rap. Guitars are often downtuned or drop tuned. This genre is generally not very popular among listeners of other metal music, but it is the newest craze and therefore very promoted and heavily played on the radio. Bands: Slipknot, Mudvayne, System Of A Down, Papa Roach, P.O.D., Linkin Park, Disturbed.

I think Slipknot has sort of balanced between nu-metal and death metal...the lyrics are usually about how american society is scapegoating and blaming things like columbine and 9/11 on them...plus they're starting to incorporate solos in their music, and they are neither simple nor short.

[crucifine]

woops, that was supposed to be a quote

[youboringlittlecunt]

i never heard a single slipknot son gon the radio. they'd cause car crashes dammit

[lSehnsuchtl]

One Question.. what do you guys reckon Static-X would be classified under?

[LostatSea]

great effort, interesting read in the black metal part, I personally wouldn't even listen to a band no matter how good the music was if they were ignorant enough to promote racism of any kind in their lyrics, would just be a waste of talent IMO, just me though

[drownxinregret]

i never heard a single slipknot son gon the radio. they'd cause car crashes dammit

i used to hear wait and bleed on the radio
not that i like slipknot, im just saying ive heard them

i think the list is pretty nicely done, i learned quite a bit though

[clown_phobia]

what type of metal are van halen and guns and roses?

[clearvision]

Static X - nu metal

Van halen - hair/pop metal?

GnR - sureley they are a rock band?

[oliveri4string]

industrial metal - static x, ministry? admittedly static x's newer stuff is more nu metal

[youboringlittlecunt]

what's hair/pop???:lol:

[AC315]

At the request of the mods, I'm making this thread to get stickied. Seeing as how there are numerous threads asking "What's the difference between genre X and genre Y?", hopefully this will curb some of those. NOTE: This is a very general guideline and not a definitive carved in stone definition. While I may put a band in with one genre, that doesn't mean that they might not fit into more than one sub-genre. I think most people here know my main area of interest is death and black metal so if you disagree with some of my opinions or band lists...fine.

Traditional heavy Metal
This is kind of a "catch all". There are plenty of sub-genres, but there are lots of bands that don't fit any sub-genre and can't really be called anything except "heavy metal". This can be basically anything from the old school British heavy metal invation to the newer stuff coming out today (not to be confused with nu-metal). This is what most people think of when they hear "Power metal" or such terms. Lots of different styles can be considered traditional heavy metal. Some bands: Iron Maiden, Judas Preist, Iced Earth, Godsmack, Manowar, Killswitch Engage, Shadows Fall etc etc etc etc.

Thrash metal
Thrash really started to come into play in the early 1980's. It was in one way, an answer to the more popular "hair metal" bands of the time. Thrash grew out of older metal such as Black Sabbath combined with chunkier riffs, speed, agrresive vocals, and even some punk. Thrash metal is concentrated more heavily on speed and aggression than it's predacessors. Key bands: Metallica (old stuff), Slayer, Anthrax, Kreator, Sodom, Megadeth, Exodus, Overkill, Nuclear Assault, Sabbat (UK), Darkane etc etc.

Doom Metal
Where thrash metal concentrates on being fast and aggressive, doom concentrates on being slower, lower and groovier. Many consider Black Sabbath to be the fathers of doom. Typically the music is slow and heavy. Guitars are tuned down and the vocals are usually clean, although growls do slip in on occasion. Also, while death and black metal are generally more aggressive lyrically, doom metal is very meloncholic, depressive and gives an extremly dark vibe. The music can range quite a bit from the extremely slloooooow all clean vocals, to the faster (but still relatively slow) doom/death bands. Check out http://www.doom-metal.com for some good information and a pretty large list of bands. Key bands: Candlemass, St. Vitus, Unsilence, My Dying Bride, Katatonia, Paradise Lost etc etc.

Death Metal
Death metal is the opposite end of the spectrum from doom metal. There are a few different schools of death metal. Generally speaking though, the music is fast, aggressive, low. The bass line is usually more pronounced than in other metal sub-genres. The vocal style is trademark to death metal. Usually vocals are growled or grunted. Blast beat drums are very prevalent. The most common misconception is that death metal is all about death and gore and killing and the likes. This is most certainly not the case. While many bands do sing about this type of thing, there are tons of great bands that do not limit themselves to lyrics like that. Lyrics can range to include religion, spirituality, fantasy and beyond. The music can range from the very aggressive and brutal (Aborted, Iniquity, Suffocation) to the more melodic (Ebony Tears, At The Gates) to the very technical (Atheist, Cynic). Key bands: Lykathea Aflame, Mithras, Morbid Angel, Behemoth (older stuff was black metal), Opeth, Immolation, Blood Red Throne, Entombed, Unleashed, Sinners Bleed.

Melodic death metal
An obvious sub-genre to death metal, it's becoming popular enough that I think it deserves it's own little section. Basically, it incorporates more melody. What it lacks in brutallity, it more than makes up for in melodic grooves. The vocals are typically not as harsh, there may or may not be as many blast beats. Key Bands: At The Gates, In Flames, Ebony Tears, Carcass (Heartwork mainly), Aeternus, Amon Amarth, Kalmah, Norther.

Black Metal
My own personaly favorite and particular area of expertise. Black metal and death metal are quite closely related. While death is focused on the shear brutallity, black metal is focused more on creating atmosphere. The music is typically higher pitched with less of a bass line. Some bands incorporate the use of keyboards or synthesizers. The production is quite often pretty bad giving it a raw or "trOO necro" quality. Tremelo picking abounds, blast beats are not as prevalent as in death metal but are still there quite often. The vocals are generally high pitched shreiked or screamed. The music can range from the "trOO necro" bands (Darkthrone) to the more melodic (Naglfar) to the very sophisticated orchestral atmospheric (Arcturus). A common misconception about black metal is that all the bands are Satanist and sing about Satan. While many bands are Satanic or anti-christian (note the distinct difference), that is not the case with all black metal bands. Lyrics can range from Satanic to fantasy to witchcraft to just about anything. Many black metal bands are very paganistic in ideology and see the christian church as an intruder in their native lands, leading to the very deep seeded hatred for christianity. Unfortunately, black metal also has a sub-genre known as NSBM. National Socialist Black Metal. While I do listen to quite a few of those bands because I like the music, lyrically many black metal bands are very racist against not only Blacks or Jews, but anyone of non-aryan decent. Key bands: Burzum, Mayhem, Darkthrone, Nargaroth, Emperor, Bathory, Immortal, Beherit, Graveland, Gorgoroth, Moonblood, Samael.

Progressive metal
A newer genre (relatively speaking), prog metal incorporates the general aggression of heavy metal with the progressive rock sound of the late 70's. Generally speaking, the music has lots of different aspects including key and time changes, unique riffing and such. The level of musicianship is typically extremly high. Dream Theater is by far the most popular band in this genre. The music is generally quite technical. Key Bands: Dream Theater, Queensryche, Spiral Architect, Spastic Ink, Aghora, Gordian Knot, Racer X.

Nu-metal
Nu-metal is the newest craze to hit mainstream rock radio. Without trying to bash it too much, generally speaking the music structure is very simplistic. Lyrics cover subjects that are close to todays teens (depression, abuse, drugs etc). There are very few guitar solos and the one's that are there are typically very simple and short. Vocals can range from the more metal influenced to a fusion of metal and rap. Guitars are often downtuned or drop tuned. This genre is generally not very popular among listeners of other metal music, but it is the newest craze and therefore very promoted and heavily played on the radio. Bands: Slipknot, Mudvayne, System Of A Down, Papa Roach, P.O.D., Linkin Park, Disturbed.


Again...this is NOT a definitive list. It not by any stretch of the imagination complete. I'm sure if we really wanted to we could come up with a good 20 or so more sub-genres. It is meant as a general guideline for the noob who's just getting into metal that otherwise would have posted a "What's the difference" thread. Feel free to agree or disagree. With any genre, there are bands that cross over and blur the lines. Your best bet if you're new to any genre of metal is to go out find a list of bands in the genre you're interested in. Download a couple songs from a bunch of different bands and then make your own distinctions.


You forgot rap-metal, also called rapcore. POD and Linkin Park are definitely in that category, along with Limp Bizkit and maybe Papa Roach. Papa Roach is really in between nu and rap metal. I know this isn't a definitive list, but rapcore is one of the more popular subgenres and it should be on the list.

[AC315]

what's hair/pop???:lol:
Hair/pop is a mix of hair metal (hard rock) and the pop music of the time. For example, Van Halen is like a mix of GnR and Dire Straits, more on the GnR side. Anyone who wants to correct me can.

[clearvision]

I ment hair metal or pop metal...

Don't take my opinons as exact as i have only learned of some genres through this thread, i'm no expert!

[Kreator]

One Question.. what do you guys reckon Static-X would be classified under?
industrial.. i'm right :p

[clearvision]

Fu<k you some of their stuff is so nu-metal!

[Cacophonious]

What the!? Static-X = Nu-Metal? You guys have no freaking idea what the hell your talking about. Just because something doesnt have grunting or talking about rotten entrails being ripped from someones chest, it doesnt classify it as nu-metal. Its industrial.... like, TRY THEY WORKED WITH TRENT REZNOR for a while... but then again, you people would call trent reznor emo or something ****ty like that because he shows emotion and incorperates philosophy into his music.

All respect for this thread: Lost.

[clearvision]

OMG OMG dey like t3h pwn3d wiv d@ xecootioners

It doesn't matter who you work with faggot. It's the music. It's also my opinon. If you want to say its wrong, prove it! I call them nu-metal because they came with that generation, and they sound similair to other bands that have been classed nu-etal.

[Schecter889]

Why do we need so many different genres of just metal?

[nothing to gein]

I honestly believe that you slammed nu-metal a bit too much, although you did manage to sum up most of the misconceptions about the genre from main-line metalheads. :)

You mentioned System of a Down and Mudvayne as nu-metal, under the description "generally speaking the music structure is very simplistic. Lyrics cover subjects that are close to todays teens (depression, abuse, drugs etc)." "Vocals can range from the more metal influenced to a fusion of metal and rap."

This is simply not the case. You also put Godsmack under "traditional heavy metal," despite the fact that they're just as heavily imbedded in the nu-metal crowd, and I would in fact consider them one of the quinticential nu-metal bands. Note: I'm not trying to argue that SOAD and Mudvayne are not nu-metal.

SOAD's lyrics touch on a number of political and philosophical issues, and are actually quite deep...once you actually understand them. Alot of the true meaning behind the lyrics is at times superbly concealed, allowing for critics to easily pass it off as childish, stupid, and pointless. Alot of the lyrics are also rather vague and open to interpretation, with a good deal of Avant Guarde influences.

For example...from the song, "Know":
"I will never feed off the evergreen luster of your heart
all because we all live in the valley of the walls
when we speak we can peak from the windows of their mouths
to see the land the women chant as they fly up to the sun.

"Books all say different things while people flap their yellow wings
trying to soar by being a wholre of life and almost everything the
sheep that ran off from the herd may be dead but now's a bird able
to fly able to die able to **** your mother's earth"

Mudvayne is another terrific example of a band that is definetly classified as nu-metal yet meets very few of your criterion. Simple song structures and music? Not quite. Ryan Martini isn't exactly a bare-bones bass player, nor Matt Donahue an average drummer; and, as an example, 17/8 isn't exactly "common time." Sure, they don't take it to the level of Spastic Ink or Spiral Architect, but their music IS a good deal more complex than many other genres of metal.

I'm not going to sit here and defend every band classified as "nu-metal" that I happen to enjoy...that would take forever. Why? Because there is an immeasurable amount of information that can be mounted in defense of these artists, and I don't have that much time. Suffice it to say, while a good number of nu-metal artists aren't even worth bothering a listen, there are also plenty of bands that are doing some very interesting things with their instruments today, musicians who don't deserve to be passed off as they typically are by many metalheads.

I gotta say, nice work to this guy. i personally don't believe mudvayne are nu-metal. Chad was in fact quoted as calling them Math-Metal, though god knows why. Nu-metal always suggested to me a more youthy kind of genre, like Korn and Limp Bizkit, and MudVayNe seem more melodic and thoughtful than what nu-metal claims to be. Dunno what u copuld call them though. Also, slipknot are no way nu-metal, but a heavier kind of black metal. there's more of it, you know? it's a thicker, fuller sound that's way hard to explain. anyways, stay (sic)

[x4_billabong_4x]

That's really very good. Cant believe someone finally took the time to do it, there have been a lot of posts regarding this in the past week or so.

This definately needs to be stickied.
thank you. sum ppl really needed that list bcuz they were gettin on my nerves with I LOVE DEATH METAL and they dont know the meaning. thank you again..

new here///marie

[nothing to gein]

Static X - nu metal

Van halen - hair/pop metal?

GnR - sureley they are a rock band?

GnR r definitely rock

[nothing to gein]

You forgot rap-metal, also called rapcore. POD and Linkin Park are definitely in that category, along with Limp Bizkit and maybe Papa Roach. Papa Roach is really in between nu and rap metal. I know this isn't a definitive list, but rapcore is one of the more popular subgenres and it should be on the list.

and Rage Against The Machine of course, u should be ashamed u forgot them

[Aussie_Punk89]

hmm...i mite b wrong, but isnt slipknot "industrial-metal"???

[Bartender]

^You can be, and are, wrong. Slipknot are not industrial.

[Kreator]

slipknot and industrial :rolleyes:

[Kingofdudes]

I gotta say, nice work to this guy. i personally don't believe mudvayne are nu-metal. Chad was in fact quoted as calling them Math-Metal, though god knows why. Nu-metal always suggested to me a more youthy kind of genre, like Korn and Limp Bizkit, and MudVayNe seem more melodic and thoughtful than what nu-metal claims to be. Dunno what u copuld call them though. Also, slipknot are no way nu-metal, but a heavier kind of black metal. there's more of it, you know? it's a thicker, fuller sound that's way hard to explain. anyways, stay (sic)

A heavier kind of Black Metal? Maybe you should take a look at the black metal description again. No matter what you say, Slipknot is Nu-metal/mallcore.

[nothing to gein]

^You can be, and are, wrong. Slipknot are not industrial.

I love that movie, was watching it today actually.

[nothing to gein]

Slipknot aren't nu-metal, because nu-metal is more like hard rock, not growling or anything like that, but faster and more thingo. Boomy or someything. it normally has a more bassier kind of distortion and stuff like that. that's what nu-metal really is, and that's definitely not slipknot. maybe they're industrial but i don't know what that is

[emptyhanded1210]

Where would the hair metal fall into? Ya know, bands like Motley Crue, Poison, White Snake, Guns 'N Roses, etc. I wouldn't go with Traditional Metal but I suppose that's the closet on the list.

[Grey Incision]

i've heard a lot about GROOVE METAL and ELECTRONIC METAL

what are these two sub-genres and how would you classify them? would bands like slipknot, devildriver and coal chamber fit into groove metal? would a band like strapping young lad fit into electronic metal?

[Bartender]

I love that movie, was watching it today actually.

I was hoping someone would notice. Slipknot aren't industrial, but they're also definitely not black metal, and even more definitely a heavier kind of black metal.

[Superpeer.is.a.faggot]

SUPER PEER IS A FAGGOT. who agrees?

[DisposableHeroes]

SUPER PEER IS A FAGGOT. who agrees?

nope, not really

[superpeer]

Respect. :cool:

[Superpeer.is.a.faggot]

go lick yourself, slut

[Superpeer.is.a.faggot]

There should be awards in this forum for biggest mod wannabe's. There's a first time for everything you know

[Kreator]

Slipknot aren't nu-metal, because nu-metal is more like hard rock, not growling or anything like that, but faster and more thingo. Boomy or someything. it normally has a more bassier kind of distortion and stuff like that. that's what nu-metal really is, and that's definitely not slipknot. maybe they're industrial but i don't know what that is
slipknot are nu metal !

[Sackonaise]

Slipknot are categorized as nu metal because of their timing. They are "new" in that sense, and they have a DJ...but their sound is quite different from these other nu-metal bands ie Staind, Static X, whatever...

however they don't really fit into any typical metal categories like Power, Thrash, Death, anything like this.

[Sackonaise]

Who thinks the new In Flames album, Sooundtrack to Your Escape, is nu-metal? I haven't heard the entire thing, but it seems basically like it. The guitar-less verses have really been bothering me, as well as the lack of guitar melodies that made The Jester Race so **** good.

[Kreator]

Slipknot are categorized as nu metal because of their timing. They are "new" in that sense, and they have a DJ...but their sound is quite different from these other nu-metal bands ie Staind, Static X, whatever...


staind are nu rock, and static x are industrial.

i love that :rolleyes:

[Sackonaise]

Wow with my inaccuracy, you'd think I missed 21 pages of posts...

oh wait, I did.

I'm not too hot on the genres i guess :/

[Kreator]

i missed most of the posts here too ;)

[Snoop Dogg]

yo all metal is crap

[Bartender]

Slipknot are categorized as nu metal because of their timing. They are "new" in that sense, and they have a DJ...but their sound is quite different from these other nu-metal bands ie Staind, Static X, whatever...


Haven't you noticed that few of the bands categorised as nu-metal sound alike anyway?

[RavenousMetalist87]

Hmm...reminds me of the stuff Metal Reference used to have. Metal Reference died x.x

However, the creators ressurected the style in the form of "Antenna".

I have the url laying around in my bookmarks and when I find it, I'll give it to whoever wants it lol...They have some good interviews too.

[Grey Incision]

What Would Strapping Young Lad Be?

[the_Leperakorn]

Thats awsome. I dont think system of a down should be in nu-metal. What is emo??? I hear about it so much and dont have a clue what it is.

[Grey Incision]

emo is short for emotional.......that's all i know

[cure_for_cancer17]

for an guide like this on pretty much every genre/sub-genre (including about 100 i'd never even heard of), visit www.mp3.com and look at the left column titled 'Genre.' it's pretty useful..

(ps this is not meant as advertising but as there's loads of people asking 'what's that' and stuff i figure there's it's not a problem)

[thetrooper1969]

good job legions, im a noob and this has cleared up a lot about these confusing metal genres...

[Grey Incision]

ok......lets all ignore the hippy's question then........

[perls]

good thread. Sometime in the future it could be made bigger to encompass more subgenres

[Grey Incision]

*suicides*

[aglobalthreat]

okay, im not really a fan of metal but i like the band every time i die, i dont know if its real metal or not. i dont care. what kind of metal would you consider them though

(p.s. if this has already been asked sorry, i dont feel like reading all of the posts)

[Kreator]

i think they are metalcore..

[Bartender]

alright.. in a nutshell, Emo is one of the "cool" things to be right now. skater/punk/emo is the new prep right about now.

So, emo is basically stupid bands with names like, "water in the sky" or some ****, and they sing about cutting their wrists and breaking up with their girlfriend. they also like to wear converse shoes, dye their hair black, and make it look like they're trying to be different, but they aren't.

yeah, they're also obsessed with x's. like for a screen name of some sort.. XxXXtakingxbackXsundayXXxxxXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX .. and the x's continue on for forever.

People who know me know I don't like arguing, so, putting it nicely; bullshit :)

[the_Leperakorn]

So emo is the music of the 'metro-sexual'??

[FatherKeeL]

personallz i have got no idea how to classify slipknot.

but they are NOT industrial and have got NOTHING to do with black metal.

they dont fit in 100% in what i consider "nu metal" though... (koRn, limp bizket, linkin park etc.)

yeah... earlyer on somebody called static-x "nu metal" ... static-x is not nu metal, static-x is one of the few "new" bands that can be clearly catigorized in my opinion, and they are industrial.

[FatherKeeL]

okok ... i just read more of the thread that ive missed. sorry for repeating myself, but i find this important:

static-x = industrial.

just becouse they are a new band does not make them "nu-metal"

[Kreator]

static-x are a new band?

[nothing to gein]

slipknot are nu metal !

u may as well give up because i'm not backing down because they're not nu-metal because they're heavier than that :P

[nothing to gein]

personallz i have got no idea how to classify slipknot.

but they are NOT industrial and have got NOTHING to do with black metal.

they dont fit in 100% in what i consider "nu metal" though... (koRn, limp bizket, linkin park etc.)

yeah... earlyer on somebody called static-x "nu metal" ... static-x is not nu metal, static-x is one of the few "new" bands that can be clearly catigorized in my opinion, and they are industrial.

well said

[Aqua Minerale]

How could symphonic metal be described? And could anyone name some bands, please!

[NJMetalMeister]

Symphonic metal is pretty much defined in the name. It is a metal band that takes in symphonic instrumentation and elements. Some Symphonic metal bands off the top of my head are:

Therion
Haggard
newer Dimmu Borgir
the "Death's Design" album from Diabolical Masquerade.

[djeepee]

does someone can give me examples of black metal (songs but no dimmu borgir i alerdy know)

[Kreator]

immortal
1349
dimmu borgir

[Bartender]

Mayhem - Freezing Moon, Funeral Fog, Pure ****ing Armageddon
Emperor - Inno A Satana, I Am the Black Wizards
Darkthrone - Kathaarian Life Code, Paragon Belial
Immortal - Solarfall, Tragedies Blow At Horizon
Burzum - War, Det Som En Gang Var

I think that should do as a tiny introduction to elementary black metal. Check out the death heads thread if you want more.

[cure_for_cancer17]

How could symphonic metal be described? And could anyone name some bands, please!

Symphonic Black Metal =

Though it's an imperfect designation, symphonic black metal is the most common term for a European-centered style that emerged in the mid- to late '90s. It isn't literally symphonic, of course; that simply refers to the thick-sounding instrumentation and sweeping, dramatic soundscapes. Nor is its connection to black metal always readily audible; although nearly all of its bands started out playing standard-issue black metal, symphonic black metal often bears little surface resemblance to its immediate forebear. The starting point for symphonic black metal was the early-'90s sound of Norwegian black metal, specifically the wing of bands that employed sorrowful, melodic keyboard lines as a counterpoint to their furious assaults. Black metal groups looking to push past the inherent limitations of the form began de-emphasizing the guitar and adding elements of progressive rock (primarily psychedelic space-rock bands like Pink Floyd) and goth metal, with its emphasis on chilling, eerie texture. The resulting sound is usually lush, and much more inviting and accessible than straightforward black metal. After outfits like Tiamat and Samael pioneered the form, a new wave of bands led by the Gathering also began incorporating ethereal female singers, sometimes as the sole vocal focus. The symphonic black metal movement remains somewhat limited, partly because of its epic ambitions and partly because it isn't traditionally metallic, but its fascinating synthesis of influences made it an instantly identifiable alternative in underground metal at the turn of the millennium.


Key Bands:

The Gathering

Moonspell

Samael

Therion

Lake of Tears

Tiamat

Lacuna Coil

Opeth

Katatonia


Key Albums:


Mandylion - The Gathering

Wolfheart - Moonspell

Irreligious - Moonspell

Passage - Samael

Theli - Therion

Crimson Cosmos - Lake of Tears

Deeper Kind of Slumber - Tiamat

Identity Four - Various Artists

Lacuna Coil - Lacuna Coil

My Arms, Your Hearse - Opeth

How to Measure a Planet? - The Gathering

In a Reverie - Lacuna Coil

Eternal - Samael

Deggial - Therion

If_Then_Else - The Gathering

Still Life - Opeth

Last Fair Deal Gone Down - Katatonia

Peaceville Classic Cuts - Various Artists


Key Tracks:

Eleanor - The Gathering

Alma Mater - Moonspell

Opium - Moonspell

Rain - Samael

To Mega Therion - Therion

Four Strings of Mourning - Lake of Tears

Cold Seed - Tiamat

In Darkness - Various Artists

No Need to Explain - Lacuna Coil

Amen Corner - Opeth

Liberty Bell - The Gathering

My Wings Lacuna - Coil

Supra Karma - Samael

Seven Secrets of the Sphinx - Therion

Rollercoaster - The Gathering

Face of - Melinda Opeth

Teargas - Katatonia

No Devotion - Various Artists

:thumb:

[Kreator]

i wouldn't call any of those bands symphonic metal :confused: most of them are gothic and death..

[Per Ardua Ad Astra]

Symphonic Black Metal =

Though it's an imperfect designation, symphonic black metal is the most common term for a European-centered style that emerged in the mid- to late '90s. It isn't literally symphonic, of course; that simply refers to the thick-sounding instrumentation and sweeping, dramatic soundscapes. Nor is its connection to black metal always readily audible; although nearly all of its bands started out playing standard-issue black metal, symphonic black metal often bears little surface resemblance to its immediate forebear. The starting point for symphonic black metal was the early-'90s sound of Norwegian black metal, specifically the wing of bands that employed sorrowful, melodic keyboard lines as a counterpoint to their furious assaults. Black metal groups looking to push past the inherent limitations of the form began de-emphasizing the guitar and adding elements of progressive rock (primarily psychedelic space-rock bands like Pink Floyd) and goth metal, with its emphasis on chilling, eerie texture. The resulting sound is usually lush, and much more inviting and accessible than straightforward black metal. After outfits like Tiamat and Samael pioneered the form, a new wave of bands led by the Gathering also began incorporating ethereal female singers, sometimes as the sole vocal focus. The symphonic black metal movement remains somewhat limited, partly because of its epic ambitions and partly because it isn't traditionally metallic, but its fascinating synthesis of influences made it an instantly identifiable alternative in underground metal at the turn of the millennium.


Key Bands:

The Gathering
Moonspell
Samael
Therion
Lake of Tears
Tiamat
Lacuna Coil
Opeth
Katatonia


Key Albums:


Mandylion The Gathering
Wolfheart Moonspell
Irreligious Moonspell
Passage Samael
Theli Therion
Crimson Cosmos Lake of Tears
Deeper Kind of Slumber Tiamat
Identity Four Various Artists
Lacuna Coil Lacuna Coil
My Arms, Your Hearse Opeth
How to Measure a Planet? The Gathering
In a Reverie Lacuna Coil
Eternal Samael
Deggial Therion
If_Then_Else The Gathering
Still Life Opeth
Last Fair Deal Gone Down Katatonia
Peaceville Classic Cuts Various Artists


Key Tracks:

Eleanor The Gathering
Alma Mater Moonspell
Opium Moonspell
Rain Samael
To Mega Therion Therion
Four Strings of Mourning Lake of Tears
Cold Seed Tiamat
In Darkness Various Artists
No Need to Explain Lacuna Coil
Amen Corner Opeth
Liberty Bell The Gathering
My Wings Lacuna Coil
Supra Karma Samael
Seven Secrets of the Sphinx Therion
Rollercoaster The Gathering
Face of Melinda Opeth
Teargas Katatonia
No Devotion Various Artists

Just some additional notes.

I would say that one of the leaders in Symphonic Black Metal were Arcturus. See the album "Aspera Heims Synfonia." It's the greatest example of Syphonic black metal i've seen yet.
Opeth is not Symphonic Black metal, they are death metal.
Katatonia is more doom metal than symphonic black metal.
Lacuna Coil isn't symphonic black metal either.

[605heeleyjp]

this iz probabally the best thread and the most helpful thread around thnx 4 that

[Aqua Minerale]

thanks cure for cancer17, nice post. what about Nightwish and Helloween?

[cure_for_cancer17]

yeah i guess there were a couple missing off the list... but you get the point

[Kreator]

thanks cure for cancer17, nice post. what about Nightwish and Helloween?
nightwish are gothic and helloween are power metal

[mike88564]

Ok there are three main types of metal: Crappy, very hard rock, and thrash. Crappy ones (most of them) range from nu-metal bands (SOAD are the only exception) such as Korn and Papa Roach, to Damage plan and Deicide. Very hard rock is mostly ruling, with sabbath (awesome), and early Zepellin; although other very hard rock bands such as Judas Priest and Queensryche suck. Thrash bands range from Slayer (awesome), to Metallica (not awesome).

I'm gonna get such stick for this I can see it coming.

[GibsonShredder04]

hey everyone this might be a bit annoying but it would be great help if you would go to my bands site Shadow System (http://mudeyvaynes.tripod.com/ )



thanks a ****load

[Griffin_Page]

Ok there are three main types of metal: Crappy, very hard rock, and thrash. Crappy ones (most of them) range from nu-metal bands (SOAD are the only exception) such as Korn and Papa Roach, to Damage plan and Deicide. Very hard rock is mostly ruling, with sabbath (awesome), and early Zepellin; although other very hard rock bands such as Judas Priest and Queensryche suck. Thrash bands range from Slayer (awesome), to Metallica (not awesome).

I'm gonna get such stick for this I can see it coming.

Ehm, genres of metal classify by sound, not by personal opinion. The main types of metal consist of these:
Classic/Traditional
Thrash
Power
Black
Death
Pop

Then there are the variations. I do not consider glam, nu-metal and metalcore as main types of metal, they all fall under "pop metal".

[Griffin_Page]

hey everyone this might be a bit annoying but it would be great help if you would go to my bands site Shadow System (http://mudeyvaynes.tripod.com/ )



thanks a ****load

1. No advertising
2. Not too many musicians like nu-metal.

[cure_for_cancer17]

Ehm, genres of metal classify by sound, not by personal opinion. The main types of metal consist of these:
Classic/Traditional
Thrash

again, just some additions to the many genres of metal (because whether people like it or not these all do exist and a few are even important).....

Alternative Metal
Death Metal
Black Metal
Doom Metal
Goth Metal
Hair Metal
Heavy Metal
Industrial Metal
Neo-Classical Metal
New Wave of British Heavy Metal
Pop Metal
Power Metal
Progressive Metal
Punk Metal
Rap Metal
Scandinavian Metal
Sludge Metal
Speed Metal
Stoner Metal
Symphonic Black Metal
Thrash Metal


i'd be happy to post an explanation for any one of these if anyone wants (except of course symphonic as it's already been done in this thread)

[cure_for_cancer17]

Ehm, genres of metal classify by sound, not by personal opinion. The main types of metal consist of these:
Classic/Traditional
Thrash

again, just some additions to the many genres of metal (because whether people like it or not these all do exist and a few are even important).....

Alternative Metal
Death Metal
Black Metal
Doom Metal
Goth Metal
Hair Metal
Heavy Metal
Industrial Metal
Neo-Classical Metal
New Wave of British Heavy Metal
Pop Metal
Power Metal
Progressive Metal
Punk Metal
Rap Metal
Scandinavian Metal
Sludge Metal
Speed Metal
Stoner Metal
Symphonic Black Metal
Thrash Metal


i'd be happy to post an explanation for any one of these if anyone wants (except of course symphonic as it's already been done in this thread)

[mike88564]

uhh...metal sucks

[mike88564]

thanks cure for cancer17, nice post. what about Nightwish and Helloween?

Nightwish suck ***

[Aqua Minerale]

if you don't like them, don't listen to them!

[Kreator]

what's pop metal?

[cure_for_cancer17]

what's pop metal?

Pop Metal =

The least metallic variation of heavy metal, pop-metal became the most popular form of hard rock during the '80s. Some pop-metal bands emphasized metal's most important building block -- the guitar riff -- more than others, but pop-metal's main attraction were the huge, catchy hooks that owed a great deal to the fist-pumping choruses of arena rock. Most of the Los Angeles-based bands (where the scene was heavily concentrated) also drew on the elaborate visual stylings of British glam rock, which resulted in the much-maligned "hair metal" boom of the late '80s. While pop-metal sounded loud and aggressive on the surface, it nearly always had a slick studio sheen that kept it radio-friendly. '70s artists like Aerosmith and Alice Cooper had an undeniable influence on pop-metal, but the band that sparked the true genesis of the style was Kiss.

Kiss' music was catchy and utterly simple, and their wildly theatrical visuals were an essential part of their appeal. Next came Van Halen, whose wild party-rock and virtuoso lead guitarist set the style for much of the pop-metal that followed. The first wave of pop-metal -- bands like Motley Crue (who would later become superstars), Quiet Riot, Dokken, Ratt, and Twisted Sister -- wasn't quite as poppy as it would later become, save for Def Leppard's 1983 landmark Pyromania, perhaps the most melodic metal album up to that point.

Bon Jovi's 1986 smash Slippery When Wet ushered in the age of hair metal, where photogenic looks (and, yes, teased-up hair) became just as important in selling a band as the music itself. The following year, Def Leppard's Hysteria set new standards for smoothed-out production as well as blockbuster sales. Not all subsequent pop-metal fell into the slick, image-conscious hair-metal camp; Guns N' Roses, Tesla, and Skid Row often had a grittier edge, and Extreme was unpredictably eclectic, while veteran rockers Kiss, Aerosmith, and Alice Cooper all staged pop-friendly comebacks. But by and large, the hair bands reigned supreme, playing lots of sleazy Aerosmith boogie and big AOR-style power ballads with bits of Van Halen flash; Poison embodied the glammed-up, party-hearty excess of hair metal perhaps better than any. Pop-metal and hair metal (and the excess and formula that had come to be associated with both) were effectively wiped off the musical map by grunge in 1991; some pop-metal bands continued to record for smaller labels and cult audiences, but the music's reputation had suffered too much to restore its former glamour.

Key Artists:

Aerosmith - 70s to 00s
Bon Jovi - 80s to 00s
**** Yankees - 80s to 90s
Def Leppard - 80s to 00s
Dokken - 80s to 00s
Faster Pussycat - 80s to 90s
Kiss - 70s to 00s
Kix - 80s to 90s
Mötley Crüe - 80s to 00s
Ratt - 80s to 90s
Slaughter - 80s to 90s
Warrant - 80s to 00s
White Lion - 80s to 90s
Winger - 80s to 90s
Lita Ford - 80s to 90s
Poison - 80s to 00s
Cinderella - 80s to 90s

(same kinda vibe for the key albums)

take it or leave it. i don't like the stuff myself but happy to provide explanations...

[Kreator]

*leaves*

[cure_for_cancer17]

he asked for it :lol:

[Kreator]

isn't your pop metal just hard rock?

[cure_for_cancer17]

depends on how seriously you take the bands

[Kreator]

i take all of them serious

[cure_for_cancer17]

well in that case just replace the title with 'hard rock'

[Kreator]

yeah :thumb:

[NickyHIMfan]

Goth Metal

i'd be happy to post an explanation for any one of these if anyone wants (except of course symphonic as it's already been done in this thread)
Can I get an explanation of this? And a few band examples? :)

Edit: Please? (Where are my manners?.... :upset: )

[cure_for_cancer17]

sure man,

Goth Metal =

Goth metal fuses the bleak, icy atmospherics of goth rock with the loud guitars and aggression of heavy metal, finding the middle ground between the two styles in a melodramatic sense of theater and lyrical obsessions with religion and horror. Prior to the emergence of goth rock as a post-punk genre, the vaguely medieval, minor-key sounds of metal bands like Rainbow, Dio, and Judas Priest had been described as "gothic," but true goth metal is always directly influenced by goth rock -- ethereal synths and spooky textures are just as important as guitar riffs, if not moreso. Thus, goth metal frequently holds appeal for listeners on both sides of the equation. Goth metal first emerged during the early to mid-'80s, centered around Los Angeles' so-called "death-rock" scene headed by Christian Death. Many goth metal bands have since sprung up in both America and Europe, with the tongue-in-cheek Type O Negative breaking out to a wider alternative metal audience in the '90s. During the latter half of that decade, goth metal also proved to be an important influence on black metal bands searching for new ways to darken their sound.


Key Artists:

Christian Death - 80s to 90s
Paradise Lost - 80s to 00s
Type O Negative - 90s to 00s
My Dying Bride - 90s to 00s
Moonspell - 90s to 00s
Anathema - 90s to 00s
Lake of Tears - 90s to 00s
Theatre of Tragedy - 90s to 00s
Lacrimosa - 90s to 00s



Key Albums:

Atrocities - Christian Death
Jesus Points the Bone at You? - Christian Death
Shades of God - Paradise Lost
Gothic - Paradise Lost
Bloody Kisses - Type O Negative
Icon - Paradise Lost
Turn Loose the Swans - My Dying Bride
Draconian Times - Paradise Lost
Wolfheart - Moonspell
Eternity - Anathema
Like Gods of the Sun - My Dying Bride
Crimson Cosmos - Lake of Tears
Velvet Darkness They Fear - Theatre of Tragedy
World Coming Down - Type O Negative
Elodia - Lacrimosa

there you go NickyHIMfan

[NickyHIMfan]

sure man,

Goth Metal =.........

there you go NickyHIMfan
Thank you very much :thumb:

[Kreator]

more artists:

nightwish
within temptation
lacuna coil
xandria

all will female singers

[NickyHIMfan]

more artists:

nightwish
within temptation
lacuna coil
xandria

all will female singers
Thanking you too :)

[AClotM1]

Nu-metal = New Urban Metal

~A very popular sub-genre that sometimes has hip-hop influences.~

[Kaden]

sure man,

Goth Metal =

Goth metal fuses the bleak, icy atmospherics of goth rock with the loud guitars and aggression of heavy metal, finding the middle ground between the two styles in a melodramatic sense of theater and lyrical obsessions with religion and horror. Prior to the emergence of goth rock as a post-punk genre, the vaguely medieval, minor-key sounds of metal bands like Rainbow, Dio, and Judas Priest had been described as "gothic," but true goth metal is always directly influenced by goth rock -- ethereal synths and spooky textures are just as important as guitar riffs, if not moreso. Thus, goth metal frequently holds appeal for listeners on both sides of the equation. Goth metal first emerged during the early to mid-'80s, centered around Los Angeles' so-called "death-rock" scene headed by Christian Death. Many goth metal bands have since sprung up in both America and Europe, with the tongue-in-cheek Type O Negative breaking out to a wider alternative metal audience in the '90s. During the latter half of that decade, goth metal also proved to be an important influence on black metal bands searching for new ways to darken their sound.


Key Artists:

Christian Death - 80s to 90s
Paradise Lost - 80s to 00s
Type O Negative - 90s to 00s
My Dying Bride - 90s to 00s
Moonspell - 90s to 00s
Anathema - 90s to 00s
Lake of Tears - 90s to 00s
Theatre of Tragedy - 90s to 00s
Lacrimosa - 90s to 00s



Key Albums:

Atrocities - Christian Death
Jesus Points the Bone at You? - Christian Death
Shades of God - Paradise Lost
Gothic - Paradise Lost
Bloody Kisses - Type O Negative
Icon - Paradise Lost
Turn Loose the Swans - My Dying Bride
Draconian Times - Paradise Lost
Wolfheart - Moonspell
Eternity - Anathema
Like Gods of the Sun - My Dying Bride
Crimson Cosmos - Lake of Tears
Velvet Darkness They Fear - Theatre of Tragedy
World Coming Down - Type O Negative
Elodia - Lacrimosa

there you go NickyHIMfan
Did you perchance copy that off of allmusic.com?

[cure_for_cancer17]

nah it's mp3.com. i advertised it earlier in the thread because so many peole wanted to know the genres by definition. even after i posted that one saying it's a good place for information and overviews of genres and artists, i got requests to explain some more:

Quote:
Originally Posted by cure_for_cancer17
Goth Metal

i'd be happy to post an explanation for any one of these if anyone wants (except of course symphonic as it's already been done in this thread)

Can I get an explanation of this? And a few band examples? :)

[R3dn3ckibanezplaya]

linkin park SSSSSSSUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKK KKKKKKKKK!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[a8o]

linkin park SSSSSSSUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKK KKKKKKKKK!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Amen,,,for re-iterance.

[StevieRayHendrix]

http://www.purevolume.com/thedullyouth

[Slrainox]

What catagorey do....
ween fall under...?
melvins fall under...?
fantamos fall under...?

[Kreator]

according to metal-archives:

fantomas - avant garde
melvins - doom Metal

[systmj]

I'll be ****ed before System Of A Down is classed the same as Linkin Park.
Linkin Park is just emo with a bitch load of distortion.

And add Dimmu Borgir to the list of Dark Metal.

Nice list otherwise.

[Kreator]

dimmu borgir aren't dark metal. they are black metal. dark metal is a sort of gothic or doom.. i'm not sure..

[Vaor]

Very good, i am glad someone took the time to do this. I respect you for trying to keep an un biased opinion. Also, thanks for stating that ther is a difference between satanic and anti-christian, And also for stating that death metal and black isnt all satanic, There are many goood chrisitain black death and thrash meat bands. Living Sacrifice, Extol, lengsel, Zao, norma jean

[Jondur]

according to metal-archives:

melvins - doom Metal

Bollocks. Sludge maybe but certainly not doom. And that's final.

[TwiztidLotus17]

PLEASE dont put killswitch engage with iron maiden....

[mike88564]

Dude, emo is not metal..Emo is for crybabies :)

Hail to that my friend

[mike88564]

Black Sabbath was the first true metal band.

Hail to that my friend

[sickgoregrind]

Paradise Lost - 80s to 00s

Paradise Lost in the 80's?
They began in the very very late 80's but their 1st real work was 1990.



Shades of God - Paradise Lost
Gothic - Paradise Lost
Icon - Paradise Lost
Draconian Times - Paradise Lost


:thumb: (Feels good about himself)

[mike88564]

That's because Korn are the ultimate nu-metal band, and they're so "heavy" compared to most other wonders of modern rock.

Korn.......are an absolutely appalling "band". Number one...they invented b a s t a r d nu-metal. Number two.....awful whiny vocals. Number three......rattling bass that doesn't make a note. Number four.....Drop-arse tuning. Number five...Poor musicianship. Number six.....Rattly guitars and rap....terrible combination. Finally number seven.....I was expecting A.D.I.D.A.S. to be a decent song, because of some hype. Turned out to be ****e.

[mike88564]

yo all metal is crap

OI F.U.C.K.F.A.C.E.!! Metal is mostly ****e (apart from slayer (who rock) and pantera are ok...sabbath are awesome), but fukk ur mother in the arse why don't you??? Snoop dogg is the ugliest, ****tiest rapper ever!! HAH!!!

[Bartender]

I'll be ****ed before System Of A Down is classed the same as Linkin Park.
Linkin Park is just emo with a bitch load of distortion.


In a world where Six Feet Under can be put in the same genre as Immolation, System of a Down can be put in nu metal with Linkin Park (who, by the way, are not emo, at all).

[maggot4875]

what about dimmu borgir

[Bartender]

Dimmu Borgir are symphonic black metal. I'm pretty sure that was pointed out on the last page.

[swantonbomb]

[LegionsofMarduk]

awsome list of genres. the only other one i can think of is Industrial Metal. which is metal with other sounds and a guy on keybored adding stuff. like Fear Factory, who are my favourite band. try to get some of their stuff if u havent. :thumb:

[Zipperface]

well, i do feel you did a great job. however i feel the bands you labled under each genre should have been defined so mainstreamists do not make a direct connection of S.O.A.D. and Slipknot. Not to mention i dont think theyre nu Metal. S.O.A.D. is more creative than Limp Bizkit will ever be with or without Wes. Slipknot is not nu metal. the only reason they dont have solos on earlier albums is because Ross Robinson is not a real open-minded producer. he cut out micks shred-solos so its not slipknot. sorry bout the ranting man. got too carried away. nice job respectively,

[FatherKeeL]

[LegionsofMarduk]

awsome list of genres. the only other one i can think of is Industrial Metal. which is metal with other sounds and a guy on keybored adding stuff. :

worst definition of industrial i have ever heard :thumb:
(plus its ben mentioned earlyer)

[Forgotten]

THe list was a very good one but I have a couple of opinions maybe against what other people might think.

First: Melodic Death Metal- Maybe a sub-genre of death metal but more or less something that shouldn't exist or even be a plausable idea to think of. These bands took a type of music that was founded on being fast agressive and less melodic. These bands are melodic, don't have the gutteral vocals, and zero blast beats. Now doesn't that make them heavy metal? You have the black dahlia murder witch is probably as close to death metal you can get and still be melodic, but they have no singing parts, blast beats, and no soft or acoustic break downs to me thats death metal. In flames a very good band don't get me wrong but acoustic songs, they even sing about butterflies, this does not describe a death metal band in any sense of the term a heavy metal band all the way.

No one has yet metioned what all these sub-genres actually mean to metal. You see a million bands a hundred different types of metal. This is why metal has been around for so long and will be around for a long *** time to come. Metal has the ability to change and become something totally different and still be metal and retain its aggression. Metal remains the only type of music where it will always take a lot of talent to play and can't be faked or done generically. Not without an embarrissing turn out. Not like pop punk where you see a bunch of hardly talented bands making money off ****ty music that you can learn to play in a month. Very good list though good to see people can still tell what goos metal is.

[No Leaf Clover]

Hmmm..I didn't read all of the entries, but was Goat Metal mentioned? I think it's the most retarded thing over..and home to Kentucky, go figure.

Anyways, some pretty awesome descriptions---nice work.

[omicron458]

very good thred im new at metal and now i know much more about metal thanks !!!!!!!!


:thumb:

[Dag151]

I've always said Tool was their own genre anyway :D


so if alot of bands in the future started taking after tools style it would probably start a new genre of music. im really just saying this cuz im not sure and want to see what ppl will tell me about it cuz i know i have no clue what im talking about

[FatherKeeL]

@no leaf clover: so what is goat metal?

[MaidenMisfit]

Thats a great list man. Nice job.

[Urgel]

I hate to say it but..... i dont know 80% of the bands all you guys named =P

(Btw could anyone make a tab of Iron Maiden:Age of innocence?)

[RivFader]

i found out that the shortest grind metal song ever made is You Suffer by napalm death .just telling anyone that didn't know that.it's 3 seconds long.
BTW, where can we put Finntroll cus i 've read in lot's of sites it's Black Metal/Folk/Finnish Hommpa...so what is it?

[Kreator]

everyone knows that... finntroll are humpa metal.


i think i wrote it wrong... someone correct me..

[ILikeChickens]

What about hardcore? Or is that considered closer to punk? I only ask because I haven't heard alot of it, and what I have heard hasn't impressed me that much. It feels like death metal-esque vocals pasted over punk guitar, which to me, is the worst of two genres. I'm probably wrong, so if someone could post a good definition of it, that'd be great. hxc is a mix of punk and metal, but is more punk than metal :D

[Bartender]

i found out that the shortest grind metal song ever made is You Suffer by napalm death .just telling anyone that didn't know that.it's 3 seconds long.

The actual song is just under a second, I think, then there's 3 seconds of silence to distinguish it from the next track. Anyway, I'm pretty sure Anal Cunt's 5674 Song EP (wrong numbers, I know) will have some shorter ones on.

[TheMadHatter666]

Great list man. On a different note, for all the people that reply'd trashing nu-metal, you are very ignorant. As you can probley tell i am a big mudvayne fan. Im not a nu-metal head, i also like bands like Metallica and Slayer. If mudvayne is classifyed as nu-metal, then i like a nu-metal band. I also like traditional Metal bands, and whatever other bands i like that i dont know there spicific type of Metal band they are.

[omicron458]

what about power metal i wanna know about power metal

[Bulldogabel]

I Want To Know About Viking Metal.

[Kreator]

power metal should be there. you just have to find it

[zyxon]

are songs like:
4 whom the bell tolls
sad but true
minus human

doom metal?
I really like those songs and they're a bit slower and chunkier

[Jondur]

Doom metal:

http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/7567/sounds.html

[zyxon]

Doom metal:

http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/7567/sounds.html

cheers dude :thumb:

[$yk0_H]

what about power metal i wanna know about power metal
listen to:

Hammerfall
Helloween
Stratovarius
Dream Evil
Lost Horizon (although they claim to play True metal, it's clearly power!)
Blind Guardian
Sonata Arctica
Rhapsody
Luca Turilli
Persuader
Dragonforce

In no particular order, those are some of my favourite power metal bands.

Power metal is highly melodic and often has folk influences. The lyrics can be mythological (kings, dragons, heroes etc.). It's concentrated around a fast guitar riff, often accompanied by keyboards, and 80% of the time, fast double-bass drumming. Vocals are clean and high-pitched screams are abundant. Some bands like to 'dress up' for gigs.

My opinion: extremely corny (in the 'run-around-the-forest-with-a-cardboard-sword' way), but once you get past that, the music can be impressive and very enjoyable.

One exception to the cornyness is Sonata Arctica, whose lyrics are more love-themed (and the singer has an inch-thick finnish accent, so 'time' becomes 'daim' etc. :p ). Rhapsody are by far the corniest power metal band. Dragonforce are worth checking out, just for the extremely fast riffing over blast-beat drumming. I could go on.

PS. this was written with a fairly bad hangover, so please excuse any factual errors, typos, misconceptions etc. etc. :thumb:

[IonicBondsMusic]

who gives a **** it all sucks anyway

[RivFader]

blind guardian is power metal?all of the song are acoustic and real good at the beginning and in the middle it's really soft metal.now Hammerfall play true power metal but not blind guardian unless someone can tell me what are the band's heaviest song...

[Kreator]

the old stuff of blind guardian is power metal

[$yk0_H]

blind guardian are more or less credited for starting power metal along with helloween. so there.

[MusicMan²]

At the request of the mods, I'm making this thread to get stickied. Seeing as how there are numerous threads asking "What's the difference between genre X and genre Y?", hopefully this will curb some of those. NOTE: This is a very general guideline and not a definitive carved in stone definition. While I may put a band in with one genre, that doesn't mean that they might not fit into more than one sub-genre. I think most people here know my main area of interest is death and black metal so if you disagree with some of my opinions or band lists...fine.

Traditional heavy Metal
This is kind of a "catch all". There are plenty of sub-genres, but there are lots of bands that don't fit any sub-genre and can't really be called anything except "heavy metal". This can be basically anything from the old school British heavy metal invation to the newer stuff coming out today (not to be confused with nu-metal). This is what most people think of when they hear "Power metal" or such terms. Lots of different styles can be considered traditional heavy metal. Some bands: Iron Maiden, Judas Preist, Iced Earth, Godsmack, Manowar, Killswitch Engage, Shadows Fall etc etc etc etc.

Thrash metal
Thrash really started to come into play in the early 1980's. It was in one way, an answer to the more popular "hair metal" bands of the time. Thrash grew out of older metal such as Black Sabbath combined with chunkier riffs, speed, agrresive vocals, and even some punk. Thrash metal is concentrated more heavily on speed and aggression than it's predacessors. Key bands: Metallica (old stuff), Slayer, Anthrax, Kreator, Sodom, Megadeth, Exodus, Overkill, Nuclear Assault, Sabbat (UK), Darkane etc etc.

Doom Metal
Where thrash metal concentrates on being fast and aggressive, doom concentrates on being slower, lower and groovier. Many consider Black Sabbath to be the fathers of doom. Typically the music is slow and heavy. Guitars are tuned down and the vocals are usually clean, although growls do slip in on occasion. Also, while death and black metal are generally more aggressive lyrically, doom metal is very meloncholic, depressive and gives an extremly dark vibe. The music can range quite a bit from the extremely slloooooow all clean vocals, to the faster (but still relatively slow) doom/death bands. Check out http://www.doom-metal.com for some good information and a pretty large list of bands. Key bands: Candlemass, St. Vitus, Unsilence, My Dying Bride, Katatonia, Paradise Lost etc etc.

Death Metal
Death metal is the opposite end of the spectrum from doom metal. There are a few different schools of death metal. Generally speaking though, the music is fast, aggressive, low. The bass line is usually more pronounced than in other metal sub-genres. The vocal style is trademark to death metal. Usually vocals are growled or grunted. Blast beat drums are very prevalent. The most common misconception is that death metal is all about death and gore and killing and the likes. This is most certainly not the case. While many bands do sing about this type of thing, there are tons of great bands that do not limit themselves to lyrics like that. Lyrics can range to include religion, spirituality, fantasy and beyond. The music can range from the very aggressive and brutal (Aborted, Iniquity, Suffocation) to the more melodic (Ebony Tears, At The Gates) to the very technical (Atheist, Cynic). Key bands: Lykathea Aflame, Mithras, Morbid Angel, Behemoth (older stuff was black metal), Opeth, Immolation, Blood Red Throne, Entombed, Unleashed, Sinners Bleed.

Melodic death metal
An obvious sub-genre to death metal, it's becoming popular enough that I think it deserves it's own little section. Basically, it incorporates more melody. What it lacks in brutallity, it more than makes up for in melodic grooves. The vocals are typically not as harsh, there may or may not be as many blast beats. Key Bands: At The Gates, In Flames, Ebony Tears, Carcass (Heartwork mainly), Aeternus, Amon Amarth, Kalmah, Norther.

Black Metal
My own personaly favorite and particular area of expertise. Black metal and death metal are quite closely related. While death is focused on the shear brutallity, black metal is focused more on creating atmosphere. The music is typically higher pitched with less of a bass line. Some bands incorporate the use of keyboards or synthesizers. The production is quite often pretty bad giving it a raw or "trOO necro" quality. Tremelo picking abounds, blast beats are not as prevalent as in death metal but are still there quite often. The vocals are generally high pitched shreiked or screamed. The music can range from the "trOO necro" bands (Darkthrone) to the more melodic (Naglfar) to the very sophisticated orchestral atmospheric (Arcturus). A common misconception about black metal is that all the bands are Satanist and sing about Satan. While many bands are Satanic or anti-christian (note the distinct difference), that is not the case with all black metal bands. Lyrics can range from Satanic to fantasy to witchcraft to just about anything. Many black metal bands are very paganistic in ideology and see the christian church as an intruder in their native lands, leading to the very deep seeded hatred for christianity. Unfortunately, black metal also has a sub-genre known as NSBM. National Socialist Black Metal. While I do listen to quite a few of those bands because I like the music, lyrically many black metal bands are very racist against not only Blacks or Jews, but anyone of non-aryan decent. Key bands: Burzum, Mayhem, Darkthrone, Nargaroth, Emperor, Bathory, Immortal, Beherit, Graveland, Gorgoroth, Moonblood, Samael.

Progressive metal
A newer genre (relatively speaking), prog metal incorporates the general aggression of heavy metal with the progressive rock sound of the late 70's. Generally speaking, the music has lots of different aspects including key and time changes, unique riffing and such. The level of musicianship is typically extremly high. Dream Theater is by far the most popular band in this genre. The music is generally quite technical. Key Bands: Dream Theater, Queensryche, Spiral Architect, Spastic Ink, Aghora, Gordian Knot, Racer X.

Nu-metal
Nu-metal is the newest craze to hit mainstream rock radio. Without trying to bash it too much, generally speaking the music structure is very simplistic. Lyrics cover subjects that are close to todays teens (depression, abuse, drugs etc). There are very few guitar solos and the one's that are there are typically very simple and short. Vocals can range from the more metal influenced to a fusion of metal and rap. Guitars are often downtuned or drop tuned. This genre is generally not very popular among listeners of other metal music, but it is the newest craze and therefore very promoted and heavily played on the radio. Bands: Slipknot, Mudvayne, System Of A Down, Papa Roach, P.O.D., Linkin Park, Disturbed.


Again...this is NOT a definitive list. It not by any stretch of the imagination complete. I'm sure if we really wanted to we could come up with a good 20 or so more sub-genres. It is meant as a general guideline for the noob who's just getting into metal that otherwise would have posted a "What's the difference" thread. Feel free to agree or disagree. With any genre, there are bands that cross over and blur the lines. Your best bet if you're new to any genre of metal is to go out find a list of bands in the genre you're interested in. Download a couple songs from a bunch of different bands and then make your own distinctions. There just a kind of metal you forgot, Speed Metal ; I can't tell you more than its the kind that metallica use, not thrash metal :thumb:

[gh0s7drummerr]

someone explain to me wut exactly is nu-metal and bands would be classifed nu-metal

[gh0s7drummerr]

ehh nvm just saw a reply....

[MaleVolenT]

There are tonnes of other genres.. There are the better known ones I could name some other genres NWOBHM, doom, gothic, metalcore, hardcore, just a few others this list was very good, Just I dont like how you all bash new metal..I mean I only like LP, SOAD and Slipknot, but I think these bands are quite good, simplistic yes, but I like the way it sounds, but hey I mean the drumming in the Berzerker is simplistic but it sounds good anyways Good list Legion

[Silenius]

Nu metal is stuff like slipknot, system, all the mainstream metal that is hated.

[listen2korn666]

Nu metal is stuff like slipknot, system, all the mainstream metal that is hated.
Do y'all think that korn is metal???? cause i know some pple who dont and some who do and i donno i think they are but what do u pple think???? :confused: :confused:

[Kafkastolemyslippers]

Do y'all think that korn is metal???? cause i know some pple who dont and some who do and i donno i think they are but what do u pple think???? :confused: :confused:

Korn is nu-metal, to me at least. They helped start the whole thing, though most of the bands to follow were quite different.

[shanks]

^You just described punk.

Look. People can describe anything and mean it for one thing, and people take it another way. Accept it.
:D
ciao

[shanks]

Ok. That was a great analysis on that, but why bother? People complained before, so you wrote that, and now your just going to get bugged more on other peoples opinions. So you're in for the long haul

[blackmetal330]

is old man's child melodic death or black metal?? ive been trying to figure that out for forever! no one can give a definite answer awesome list

[lime toast]

i love old mans child

[Sparky Van Dam]

I love all the different genre definitions of metal.

Once you get into sub-sub-genres of sub-genres, it gets pretty fascinating. I try to get into new genres all the time to see what they're like.

Great work on the definitions, they're helpful and pretty **** accurate. :)

[punktometal80]

Nu-metal
Nu-metal is the newest craze to hit mainstream rock radio. Without trying to bash it too much, generally speaking the music structure is very simplistic. Lyrics cover subjects that are close to todays teens (depression, abuse, drugs etc). There are very few guitar solos and the one's that are there are typically very simple and short. Vocals can range from the more metal influenced to a fusion of metal and rap. Guitars are often downtuned or drop tuned. This genre is generally not very popular among listeners of other metal music, but it is the newest craze and therefore very promoted and heavily played on the radio. Bands: Slipknot, Mudvayne, System Of A Down, Papa Roach, P.O.D., Linkin Park, Disturbed.

yes i agree that nu-metal should be a seperate genre, but i disagree about the band selection. first papa roach IS NOT METAL! now there are plenty of other bands thats should go in this genre. mudvayne definately does not belong. they are rarely played on the radio and they are definately not mainstream. now ive noticed that you forgot one important genre, Industrial Metal. this would include bands such as Rammstien and many others. now this is only my opinion. i dont mean to disrespect you. Thank You.

[$yk0_H]

Read the friggin thread before posting! Thank you.

[Per Ardua Ad Astra]

blind guardian are more or less credited for starting power metal along with helloween. so there.

Er...can you say Dio?

[RivFader]

Per Ardua is right, i guess Dio Is power metal in a certain kind of way

[$yk0_H]

Dio inspired Power Metal, didn't start it. Anyways, it's not like we're ever gonna agree here...

[RivFader]

right.... :lol:

[RivFader]

BTW, i've listened to the first album of Darkthrone and it seems they're playing doom metal specially Neptune Towers.so, do the play doom metal or black metal?

[Bartender]

Darkthrone are a black metal band.

[Per Ardua Ad Astra]

Actually, Bartender, you are only partially right.
The first album, "Soulside Journey" which RivFader is talking about is actually Death/Doom metal.
Other than the first album, all the other albums are black metal.

[IAJP]

Very very very conclusive man
:thumb:

[MetalGuru]

Hey everyone, this is my first post on this site and I hope to have many more following it. I am not a musician, yet, but only because I have no money to pay for lessons or instruments, I hope to be a drummer when I get the money, focusing especially on double bass kick with high beats per minute (I am already undergoing endurance/speed training for my arms and legs especially so I can jump start myself to double bass kick as quickly as possible).

My current passion is discovering, listening to and discussing metal, drums and metal bands. I am trying to keep a running total of how many bands that I actually can say I listen to. What I need from you, the public, is to help me add to this list, based on the current tastes obviously shown by this list. I also welcome critisism and corrections on my list because I know for sure that I am wrong about some things on it. I hope by the time I start to learn how to drum I do live up to the name: MetalGuru.

Try to put up with what ever gross improportions or errors put on here, but make no mistake, I am a REAL metal fan, I listen to metal about 10-15 hours a day (yes I have calculated it), but I have never really had a chance to discuss it with real metal fans since non of my friends are metal heads like me. This would be the reason for any misconceptions I have on types or bands. With that said, here's the list:

Note: If bands are refered to be split into "stages" it is because they changed their style drastically at one or two points in their careers and I feel that it would need clarification between the stages to describe the type of metal. Moreover, you may notice the heavy use of Symphonic, I think anything using keys could be described as Symphonic, even though with the different levels of key use it could be said to be either Symphonic, Melodic or even Industrial.

My Favorites
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Bands: Dimmu Borgir, Opeth, Amon Amarth, Graveworm, Fear Factory, Children of Bodom

Types: Black, Death, Progressive, Nu, Industrial, Heavy

(Mainstream/Mainstream Sounding) Metal (expect errors to be in this section)
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Atreyu (pop screemo metal)
Dark Army
Enter My Silence
Godsmack
iLL NiNo
Kitty
LostProphets (emo rock)
Machinehead
Metallica
Mudvayne
Seether
Slipknot
Static-X
Stone Sour
Sugar Coma
Tool
Hatebreed (hardcore?)


Death Metal
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Flagband(s): Morbid Angel, Fear Factory (slightly, slightly symphonic, first stage only)

Amon Amarth (Melodic)
Anasarca
Beheaded
Cannibal Corpse (DeathGore-Metal)
Corpse Vomit
Children of Bodom (Swedish DM?, does not sound AT ALL like Death Metal, only band with keys that I wouldn't consider "Symphonic")
Chronic Disorder
Curriculum Mortis (Melodic)
Dimmak
Fleshtized
Guidance of Sin (Melodic)
Iniquity
Nephasth
Panzerchrist
Taetre (somewhat melodic)
Thalarion (Symphonic Melodic and (somewhat) Epic)

Black Metal
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Flagband(s): Dimmu Borgir (Symphonic, first stage = true BM)

Agathodaimon (Symphonic)
Bathory
Cathedral (Symphonic)
Cradle of Filth (Symphonic)
Dark Funeral (Symphonic)
Graveworm (Symphonic, my current favorite)
Kovenant (Symphonic, first stage = true BM)
Old Man's Child (Symphonic?)
Pik (Doom Rock)
Rotting Christ (Symphonic)
Wolfheart (thrash)

Thrash Metal
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Flagband(s): Meshuggah (Progressive Technical)

Darkane (Heavy Progressive Technical)
The Haunted (Heavy)

Nu-Metal(can be described as Nu because it is popular, but this SOUND can also be achieved by much less popular bands, keep that in mind. Also keep mind that I wouldn't be surprised if half these bands ARE actually Nu-Metal in Europe. I prefer mainstream over Nu to describing pop metal, because really, what is popular is culture specific, it could be different in another country)
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Disturbed
Fear Factory (heavy industrial, technical, more symphonic, transition stage and third stage only)
In Flames
Jerkstore
Korn(rock then?)
Mevadio
Mnemic (heavy, hybrid, progressive fast fusion, huge variety of heavy styles)
Raunchy
Sacrificial
Seether
System of a Down (punkishly hardcore)
Withering Surface (thrash)

Progressive
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Opeth (pseudo BM, real type=progressive dark emo with true BM sound, roughly 50 percent of their music is not ENTIRELY metal through the whole song, while about 10 percent is not metal at all, strange band)

Indie-Metal
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Kloak

Psychedelic Metal (yes this is an actual type)
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Apex Theory
Alchemist

Heavy Metal
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Artillery
Fight (rock)
Heaven's Cry
Symphony X

Rock-Rap
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Flag band(s): Cypresshill (final stage)

Kush
Limp Bizkit

Power Metal
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DragonForce (this band is the reason I DON'T like Power Metal)

Other/Bands I don't know much of but still like
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Gwar
Mushroomhead
Super Joint Ritual
Lamb of God
Melvins
Nirvana
Black Sabbath
Buruzia (is that spelt right, features drummer from Fear Factory?)

I know OF many other bands (both popular and underground) but they aren't worth it to list on here because I know so little of them.



That's the list, I welcome any and all comments, privately and publically, since my only goal in life at the moment is to further my knowledge and correctness on metal and metal culture.

ANYONE WITH GOOD SYMPHONIC BLACK METAL (better or as good as Graveworm or Dimmu Borgir) OR REALLY HARD HITTING NU-METAL (better or as good as Mnemic or System of a Down) CONTACT ME IMMEDIATELY WITH THE NAMES. ALSO ANYONE WITH ANY MUSIC THAT SOUNDS LIKE AMON AMARTH AND CURRICULUM MORTIS OR OPETH OR CHILDREN OF BODOM ALSO CONTACT ME IMMEDIATELY.

[$yk0_H]

Oh, were to begin.... I'm just reserveng this space, I'll make a more descriptive post as soon as I find the time, but the most important ones that sprung into my eyes:
Korn are not hardcore
Keys do not make metal symphonic. Bands like COF and Graveworm do not play symphonic.
Mnemic, In Flames, Withering Surface etc. are not nu-metal bands.
Disturbed, however fit nicely in nu.

That's just a quick few ;)
other than that, welcome and such!

[The_Mutato]

MetalGuru: I don't see how Opeth can be described as emo-ish other than some emo kids listen to their acoustic work.

To find about more bands, I suggest listening to internet radio (Snakenet is my fav).

It seems you know too much about metal already tho...

[Silenius]

I'd say bathory is black metal, and sabbath is doom metal.

[MetalGuru]

Oh, were to begin.... I'm just reserveng this space, I'll make a more descriptive post as soon as I find the time, but the most important ones that sprung into my eyes:
Korn are not hardcore
Keys do not make metal symphonic. Bands like COF and Graveworm do not play symphonic.
Mnemic, In Flames, Withering Surface etc. are not nu-metal bands.
Disturbed, however fit nicely in nu.

That's just a quick few ;)
other than that, welcome and such!

Thanks for helping me out, I was not surprised at some of these errors, and also glad that I knew what I was talking about when it came to most of my favorite bands since they were not commented on. I do disagree on some points, and I also have questions regarding your corrections. To start, Mnemic has been described as nu-metal before, I'm sure it is to the Danish people, although I don't know for sure. But I would not be surprised if they weren't because really I cannot tell what type of metal they are, they just kick *** and they *sound* quite mainstream, if you know what I am trying to say there. But then again, what is Nu-Metal, alot of people have mixed opinons on that, can someone describe it and Mnemics type to me in COMPLETE CLARITY?

First Question would be, what would call a band that used keys like Dimmu Borgir Graveworm and Cradle of Filth. I strongly disagree that Graveworm is not symphonic since they have huge symphonies as intros (Dreaming Beauty?) or as whole songs(Ceremonial Requiem?), and I swear I hear synthesized symphony coming from the keys in pretty much every song, or is that something else? Cradle of Filth I agree isn't symphonic if I am right in what I now think is symphonic. They just really have organ in that. But also, am I wrong in what I think is Symphonic? If what is Symphonic is what is played in Progenies of the Great Apocalypse(Dimmu Borgir - DCA), then I can see where you are coming from.

Secondly, what is the difference between black and doom? I am not completely sure on what doom metal is.

I am really shakey on what Fear Factory would be described as, if there was such a title that meant Industrial Melodic Technical Death Metal that is what I guess it would be. Or is it something else?

Furthermore, if In Flames and Withering Surface are not Nu, what are they? I was shakey on them because I don't listen to In Flames as much and I could never tell what Withering Surface was.

MetalGuru: I don't see how Opeth can be described as emo-ish other than some emo kids listen to their acoustic work.

To find about more bands, I suggest listening to internet radio (Snakenet is my fav).

It seems you know too much about metal already tho...

As for your comment, Mutato, Opeth is DARK emo (sometimes confused with BM type lyrics??). Maybe not entirely but if you read the lyrics to like half their songs they talk about lost love and about wanting to die or sometimes both. Is that not as emo as it gets? If I am right in trying to understand what the songs are saying, refer to In My Time of Need (****ation), To Rid The Disease (****ation), Hope Leaves (****ation), A Fair Judgement (Deliverance) and Face of Melinda(Still Life) for examples, and thats just to name a few.

I await your replies.

I am going to update the list.

[MetalGuru]

Ha it bleeped out the album titles.
its supposed to say Dam nation

[ed the duck]

the best type of rock is zakk wylde, ozzy osbourne and co tho, whos every1 elses?

[Per Ardua Ad Astra]

ANYONE WITH GOOD SYMPHONIC BLACK METAL

Arcturus-Aspera Heims Synfonia
Blood Stained Dusk-Dirge of Death's silence
Emperor-In the Nightside Eclipse
Emperor-Anthems to the welkin at dusk

All are top notch symphonic black metal albums.

First Question would be, what would call a band that used keys like Dimmu Borgir Graveworm and Cradle of Filth. I strongly disagree that Graveworm is not symphonic since they have huge symphonies as intros (Dreaming Beauty?) or as whole songs(Ceremonial Requiem?), and I swear I hear synthesized symphony coming from the keys in pretty much every song, or is that something else? Cradle of Filth I agree isn't symphonic if I am right in what I now think is symphonic. They just really have organ in that. But also, am I wrong in what I think is Symphonic? If what is Symphonic is what is played in Progenies of the Great Apocalypse(Dimmu Borgir - DCA), then I can see where you are coming from.

Secondly, what is the difference between black and doom? I am not completely sure on what doom metal is.

I am really shakey on what Fear Factory would be described as, if there was such a title that meant Industrial Melodic Technical Death Metal that is what I guess it would be. Or is it something else?

Furthermore, if In Flames and Withering Surface are not Nu, what are they? I was shakey on them because I don't listen to In Flames as much and I could never tell what Withering Surface was.

Ok, Symphonic black metal is more melodic black with extensive use of keyboards in the music. (see Arcturus, and Emperor). I haven't heard enough Graveworm to be able to tell you if they are symphonic or not but i can tell you that Dimmu Borgir are symphonic black metal and Cradle of Filth are not.

Secondly, Doom metal is metal usually played at slow tempos. If you listen to the band My Dying Bride you will understand what i mean. The point of doom metal nowadays is to basically set an atmosphere of depression and sadness. The vocals are usually growls.

Key albums...
My Dying Bride-As the flower withers
My Dying Bride-The Angel and the Dark River
Virgin Black-Elegant...and dying.

[MetalGuru]

Arcturus-Aspera Heims Synfonia
Blood Stained Dusk-Dirge of Death's silence
Emperor-In the Nightside Eclipse
Emperor-Anthems to the welkin at dusk

All are top notch symphonic black metal albums.



Ok, Symphonic black metal is more melodic black with extensive use of keyboards in the music. (see Arcturus, and Emperor). I haven't heard enough Graveworm to be able to tell you if they are symphonic or not but i can tell you that Dimmu Borgir are symphonic black metal and Cradle of Filth are not.

Secondly, Doom metal is metal usually played at slow tempos. If you listen to the band My Dying Bride you will understand what i mean. The point of doom metal nowadays is to basically set an atmosphere of depression and sadness. The vocals are usually growls.

Key albums...
My Dying Bride-As the flower withers
My Dying Bride-The Angel and the Dark River
Virgin Black-Elegant...and dying.

Listen to Graveworm - Dreaming to Reality, I think it is QUITE symphonic, I'd compare Graveworm and some of Dimmu Borgir's songs.

[PaUsE36]

now im too f'in lazy to read this whole thread...
system of a down is sort of nu metal...but theyre music also crosses over to alot of other genre's...but their basic fist pumpin **** is diffently nu metal
now hardcore/metalcore is diffently part of the metal genre. bands like as i lay dying, everytime i die, evergreen terrece, killswitch engage, blood has been shed, bleeding through, are good examples of metalcore. www.hxc.com does a good job on describing the difference between hardcore's sub-genres.
but for this explination...very good f'in job.
\M/ (--) \M/

[Megadeth_Guitarist]

Greetings fools, i am about to enlighten you all for your foolishness...i pity you pitiful mortal scum.

Elf Metal :- elf vocals and guitars

sludge core goblin metal :- goblin core

iron gore rock/pop :- a mixture of iron gore with lashings of pop/rock

Swedish death techno with happy hardcore undertones

jungle punk with tribal metal influences#

German RnB Metal with underlining doomblood rock/pop

Arabic emo thrash rock with european gypsie trance

Dinosaur metal with steelboot rock with the slightest hint of orc-metal-pop-core Rap.

Gangster metal.

White metal.

Life metal.

SLOW METAL

Fast metal

Adam Shaw gore metal.

Chinese Doom-core mushroom metal.

I AM GOING BACK TO THE UNDERWORLD YOU PITIFUL MORTALS TO LISTEN TO MY rAMSTEIN VERSUS CHEEKY GIRLS LP. IT ROCKS LIKE YO MOM.

I WILL RETURN FROM THE FLAMES TO KILL YOU ALL..... HA HA HAA HA HA HAAAAAAAAA........................PITIFUL MUSICIAN FOOLS!!!!!!!!!!! YOU CANT PLAY YOU PITIFUL FOOLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111

HAA HA HA HA HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[$yk0_H]

Mnemic has been described as nu-metal before, I'm sure it is to the Danish people, although I don't know for sure. But I would not be surprised if they weren't because really I cannot tell what type of metal they are, they just kick *** and they *sound* quite mainstream, if you know what I am trying to say there. But then again, what is Nu-Metal, alot of people have mixed opinons on that, can someone describe it and Mnemics type to me in COMPLETE CLARITY?
You know what, I'll ask them when I have the chance. A friend of mine's related to the singer (and I know him from when he was a bartender at a local bar). I'd classify them as some sort of industrial (fear-factory'ish) rather than nu.

[MetalGuru]

You know what, I'll ask them when I have the chance. A friend of mine's related to the singer (and I know him from when he was a bartender at a local bar). I'd classify them as some sort of industrial (fear-factory'ish) rather than nu.

As I said before I could be wrong but here...I found the quote that it stated that it has been called UP TO Nu-Metal. It is as follows:

"...People described it as a kind of Thrash Metal, Progressive Metal up to Nu Metal; so they decided to describe their sound as Fusion Future Metal. The music is supported by keyboards, samples and guitarsynths, to create a spacy atmosphere..." (Nuclear Blast Band Bio, http://www.nuclearblastusa.com/bands/mnemic.html). Now I know you are about to say WELL THERE'S YOUR ANSWER!!! RIGHT THERE. In my opinion Fusion Future is not a type I have acknowledged before. Is that really a type of metal? I think they just made that up.

But ya I could be wrong, I'd be interested in finding out what the lead singer personally describes his band as, and if he says Fusion Future Metal then ask him what that means.
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Opeth - In the Mist She Was Standing

[MetalGuru]

Greetings fools, i am about to enlighten you all for your foolishness...i pity you pitiful mortal scum.

Elf Metal :- elf vocals and guitars

sludge core goblin metal :- goblin core

iron gore rock/pop :- a mixture of iron gore with lashings of pop/rock

Swedish death techno with happy hardcore undertones

jungle punk with tribal metal influences#

German RnB Metal with underlining doomblood rock/pop

Arabic emo thrash rock with european gypsie trance

Dinosaur metal with steelboot rock with the slightest hint of orc-metal-pop-core Rap.

Gangster metal.

White metal.

Life metal.

SLOW METAL

Fast metal

Adam Shaw gore metal.

Chinese Doom-core mushroom metal.

I AM GOING BACK TO THE UNDERWORLD YOU PITIFUL MORTALS TO LISTEN TO MY rAMSTEIN VERSUS CHEEKY GIRLS LP. IT ROCKS LIKE YO MOM.

I WILL RETURN FROM THE FLAMES TO KILL YOU ALL..... HA HA HAA HA HA HAAAAAAAAA........................PITIFUL MUSICIAN FOOLS!!!!!!!!!!! YOU CANT PLAY YOU PITIFUL FOOLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111

HAA HA HA HA HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA


Man, how many people acknowledge those silly types you just listed there. I have NEVER heard of anythign like that, there has to be a certain amount of bands to a type for it to be a type you know, I think we can all agree on that. And you were adding different types of types in there that don't count. The only thing I can pick out of that is Oi Metal which you confused with white metal I think. Are you sure on all this.

Oh and btw, Shut The **** Up.
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Mnemic - Zero Gravity

[MetalGuru]

What type of metal is Withering Surface?
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Fear Factory - Cyberwaste

[11THX3MEM]

SOAD's lyrics touch on a number of political and philosophical issues, and are actually quite deep...once you actually understand them. Alot of the true meaning behind the lyrics is at times superbly concealed, allowing for critics to easily pass it off as childish, stupid, and pointless. Alot of the lyrics are also rather vague and open to interpretation, with a good deal of Avant Guarde influences.

For example...from the song, "Know":
"I will never feed off the evergreen luster of your heart
all because we all live in the valley of the walls
when we speak we can peak from the windows of their mouths
to see the land the women chant as they fly up to the sun.

"Books all say different things while people flap their yellow wings
trying to soar by being a wholre of life and almost everything the
sheep that ran off from the herd may be dead but now's a bird able
to fly able to die able to **** your mother's earth"



If you really believe that man, you need to put down the crack pipe. I think maybe you've been smoking more of the stuff than SOAD!

[MetalGuru]

If you really believe that man, you need to put down the crack pipe. I think maybe you've been smoking more of the stuff than SOAD!

Dude, they are what he said they are right on the button, I think YOU should put down the crack pipe. I am for SURE that they are political and philosophical and the other things he said make sense. What did you think they were?

Oh and Btw, SOAD's drug of choice is magic mushroomsn, not crack, and you can see why on cover art and look at their pupils during concert,its not just proven in their music.
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Fear Factory - Cyberwaste

[YouDontSeeMe]

What category does Tool fall into?

[Everlasting_Gaze]

Great list, forgot a great artist for melodic death : Eternal Tears of Sorrow

Also, you should include grindcore in your list. And i'm glad you didn't list Cradle of filth as black metal, cause i for one think cof sucks. :), but anyways great job on the list. Loved it. I've been listening to black metal for years, and i can't get enough of it ever.

[Per Ardua Ad Astra]

What category does Tool fall into?

Progressive Rock/Metal

[MetalGuru]

WHICH CATEGORY DOES WITHERING SURFACE FALL INTO?
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Darkane - Third

[$yk0_H]

WHICH CATEGORY DOES WITHERING SURFACE FALL INTO?
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Darkane - Third
same asn flames/soilwork/gardenian etc...

[YouDontSeeMe]

thanks, per ardua ad astra

[Ä?êãŦĤ]

You forgot BongZilla

[incubiotic]

undefined
what would u class the mars volta as and sikth

[Kingofdudes]

mars volta is progressive rock

[incubiotic]

mars volta is progressive rock
thanks i thoguth so but ppl told me they were alternative

[ö¿öBrightAsABlondeö¿ö]

Well I like the traditionall Heavy Metal :naughty:

[ö¿öBrightAsABlondeö¿ö]

heavy metal all the way hehe

[666SCISSORS666]

what is alt metal. spineshank are alt metal and the dont seem to be any different to sum metal bands. how do you get this catagory

[666SCISSORS666]

heavy metal is the direction that you should go in

[Woutjinho]

Good list! :thumb:

And there shouldn't be something about Hardcore, Metalcore, Grindcore, Noisecore, Power Metal and others. It's good for how it is. Only the biggest Metal genres and no sub-genres.

[gh0s7drummerr]

nice reviews, now i know wut kind of metal i like...nu-metal, it just gives me so much adrenaline listening to them

[cure_for_cancer17]

Hey everyone, this is my first post on this site and I hope to have many more following it..... etc etc

two words: 'holy' and 'shyat'

[Scuba Taco]

I've been wondering what two bands are consittered because I realy can't tell.

The Black Dahlia Murder: They throw a higher-piched vocal line in with Death-Style Guitar riffs and a great mix of drums. They aren't one of my most favorite bands, but I'm trying to figure out what they truly are.

Lamb of God: If they aren't nothing then they are everything. The Vocals seem to mix a high piched sound with a low piched sound all at the same time. The Guitars have a mix between death and trash with a unique twist in there too. The drums don't seem to have a spescific style of metal, but they are very technical and fast. These guys are one of, maybe even my favorite band, but I still can't fit them into a genre.

You decide.... 'cause I can't

[Bartender]

^You've been here four days, max, so you can be excused..but you'd be shocked how many threads there were before this about this kind of thing.

[xNYYankees]

undefinedAt the request of the mods, I'm making this thread to get stickied. Seeing as how there are numerous threads asking "What's the difference between genre X and genre Y?", hopefully this will curb some of those. NOTE: This is a very general guideline and not a definitive carved in stone definition. While I may put a band in with one genre, that doesn't mean that they might not fit into more than one sub-genre. I think most people here know my main area of interest is death and black metal so if you disagree with some of my opinions or band lists...fine.

Traditional heavy Metal
This is kind of a "catch all". There are plenty of sub-genres, but there are lots of bands that don't fit any sub-genre and can't really be called anything except "heavy metal". This can be basically anything from the old school British heavy metal invation to the newer stuff coming out today (not to be confused with nu-metal). This is what most people think of when they hear "Power metal" or such terms. Lots of different styles can be considered traditional heavy metal. Some bands: Iron Maiden, Judas Preist, Iced Earth, Godsmack, Manowar, Killswitch Engage, Shadows Fall etc etc etc etc.

Thrash metal
Thrash really started to come into play in the early 1980's. It was in one way, an answer to the more popular "hair metal" bands of the time. Thrash grew out of older metal such as Black Sabbath combined with chunkier riffs, speed, agrresive vocals, and even some punk. Thrash metal is concentrated more heavily on speed and aggression than it's predacessors. Key bands: Metallica (old stuff), Slayer, Anthrax, Kreator, Sodom, Megadeth, Exodus, Overkill, Nuclear Assault, Sabbat (UK), Darkane etc etc.

Doom Metal
Where thrash metal concentrates on being fast and aggressive, doom concentrates on being slower, lower and groovier. Many consider Black Sabbath to be the fathers of doom. Typically the music is slow and heavy. Guitars are tuned down and the vocals are usually clean, although growls do slip in on occasion. Also, while death and black metal are generally more aggressive lyrically, doom metal is very meloncholic, depressive and gives an extremly dark vibe. The music can range quite a bit from the extremely slloooooow all clean vocals, to the faster (but still relatively slow) doom/death bands. Check out http://www.doom-metal.com for some good information and a pretty large list of bands. Key bands: Candlemass, St. Vitus, Unsilence, My Dying Bride, Katatonia, Paradise Lost etc etc.

Death Metal
Death metal is the opposite end of the spectrum from doom metal. There are a few different schools of death metal. Generally speaking though, the music is fast, aggressive, low. The bass line is usually more pronounced than in other metal sub-genres. The vocal style is trademark to death metal. Usually vocals are growled or grunted. Blast beat drums are very prevalent. The most common misconception is that death metal is all about death and gore and killing and the likes. This is most certainly not the case. While many bands do sing about this type of thing, there are tons of great bands that do not limit themselves to lyrics like that. Lyrics can range to include religion, spirituality, fantasy and beyond. The music can range from the very aggressive and brutal (Aborted, Iniquity, Suffocation) to the more melodic (Ebony Tears, At The Gates) to the very technical (Atheist, Cynic). Key bands: Lykathea Aflame, Mithras, Morbid Angel, Behemoth (older stuff was black metal), Opeth, Immolation, Blood Red Throne, Entombed, Unleashed, Sinners Bleed.

Melodic death metal
An obvious sub-genre to death metal, it's becoming popular enough that I think it deserves it's own little section. Basically, it incorporates more melody. What it lacks in brutallity, it more than makes up for in melodic grooves. The vocals are typically not as harsh, there may or may not be as many blast beats. Key Bands: At The Gates, In Flames, Ebony Tears, Carcass (Heartwork mainly), Aeternus, Amon Amarth, Kalmah, Norther.

Black Metal
My own personaly favorite and particular area of expertise. Black metal and death metal are quite closely related. While death is focused on the shear brutallity, black metal is focused more on creating atmosphere. The music is typically higher pitched with less of a bass line. Some bands incorporate the use of keyboards or synthesizers. The production is quite often pretty bad giving it a raw or "trOO necro" quality. Tremelo picking abounds, blast beats are not as prevalent as in death metal but are still there quite often. The vocals are generally high pitched shreiked or screamed. The music can range from the "trOO necro" bands (Darkthrone) to the more melodic (Naglfar) to the very sophisticated orchestral atmospheric (Arcturus). A common misconception about black metal is that all the bands are Satanist and sing about Satan. While many bands are Satanic or anti-christian (note the distinct difference), that is not the case with all black metal bands. Lyrics can range from Satanic to fantasy to witchcraft to just about anything. Many black metal bands are very paganistic in ideology and see the christian church as an intruder in their native lands, leading to the very deep seeded hatred for christianity. Unfortunately, black metal also has a sub-genre known as NSBM. National Socialist Black Metal. While I do listen to quite a few of those bands because I like the music, lyrically many black metal bands are very racist against not only Blacks or Jews, but anyone of non-aryan decent. Key bands: Burzum, Mayhem, Darkthrone, Nargaroth, Emperor, Bathory, Immortal, Beherit, Graveland, Gorgoroth, Moonblood, Samael.

Progressive metal
A newer genre (relatively speaking), prog metal incorporates the general aggression of heavy metal with the progressive rock sound of the late 70's. Generally speaking, the music has lots of different aspects including key and time changes, unique riffing and such. The level of musicianship is typically extremly high. Dream Theater is by far the most popular band in this genre. The music is generally quite technical. Key Bands: Dream Theater, Queensryche, Spiral Architect, Spastic Ink, Aghora, Gordian Knot, Racer X.

Nu-metal
Nu-metal is the newest craze to hit mainstream rock radio. Without trying to bash it too much, generally speaking the music structure is very simplistic. Lyrics cover subjects that are close to todays teens (depression, abuse, drugs etc). There are very few guitar solos and the one's that are there are typically very simple and short. Vocals can range from the more metal influenced to a fusion of metal and rap. Guitars are often downtuned or drop tuned. This genre is generally not very popular among listeners of other metal music, but it is the newest craze and therefore very promoted and heavily played on the radio. Bands: Slipknot, Mudvayne, System Of A Down, Papa Roach, P.O.D., Linkin Park, Disturbed.


Again...this is NOT a definitive list. It not by any stretch of the imagination complete. I'm sure if we really wanted to we could come up with a good 20 or so more sub-genres. It is meant as a general guideline for the noob who's just getting into metal that otherwise would have posted a "What's the difference" thread. Feel free to agree or disagree. With any genre, there are bands that cross over and blur the lines. Your best bet if you're new to any genre of metal is to go out find a list of bands in the genre you're interested in. Download a couple songs from a bunch of different bands and then make your own distinctions.



I don't know how Killswitch Engage and Shadows Fall fell into traditional Heavy Metal, but overall that is some decent work. \m/

[Mardok]

nice reviews, now i know wut kind of metal i like...nu-metal, it just gives me so much adrenaline listening to them
Black metal and Thrash metal gives me more adrenaline than nu metal.

[feedthegods666]

Black metal and Thrash metal gives me more adrenaline than nu metal.
if theyre done right, then yes, definitely! :thumb:

[Bmanlikewoah]

I think you forgot an important band in the Death metal section. That band being...Death o_o.

[Bartender]

It was never meant to be an exhaustive list.

[fearfactoryfan2k3]

Kick.Mallcore.OFF.THAT.LIST!!!
im going to have to say i agree with this one. mallcore (or as you stated nu metal) has nothing to do with real metal. metal's roots come from british rock, blues, and classical music wheras numetal/mallcore's roots are within jazz, hip hop and grunge. you are correct on the discription of nu metal as a whole, but it shouldn't be on this list of "heavy metal"

[nasal discharges]

what does rage against the machine count as

[Nra4ever_17]

Hey everyone, this is my first post on this site and I hope to have many more following it. I am not a musician, yet, but only because I have no money to pay for lessons or instruments, I hope to be a drummer when I get the money, focusing especially on double bass kick with high beats per minute (I am already undergoing endurance/speed training for my arms and legs especially so I can jump start myself to double bass kick as quickly as possible).

My current passion is discovering, listening to and discussing metal, drums and metal bands. I am trying to keep a running total of how many bands that I actually can say I listen to. What I need from you, the public, is to help me add to this list, based on the current tastes obviously shown by this list. I also welcome critisism and corrections on my list because I know for sure that I am wrong about some things on it. I hope by the time I start to learn how to drum I do live up to the name: MetalGuru.

Try to put up with what ever gross improportions or errors put on here, but make no mistake, I am a REAL metal fan, I listen to metal about 10-15 hours a day (yes I have calculated it), but I have never really had a chance to discuss it with real metal fans since non of my friends are metal heads like me. This would be the reason for any misconceptions I have on types or bands. With that said, here's the list:

Note: If bands are refered to be split into "stages" it is because they changed their style drastically at one or two points in their careers and I feel that it would need clarification between the stages to describe the type of metal. Moreover, you may notice the heavy use of Symphonic, I think anything using keys could be described as Symphonic, even though with the different levels of key use it could be said to be either Symphonic, Melodic or even Industrial.

My Favorites
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Bands: Dimmu Borgir, Opeth, Amon Amarth, Graveworm, Fear Factory, Children of Bodom

Types: Black, Death, Progressive, Nu, Industrial, Heavy

(Mainstream/Mainstream Sounding) Metal (expect errors to be in this section)
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Atreyu (pop screemo metal)
Dark Army
Enter My Silence
Godsmack
iLL NiNo
Kitty
LostProphets (emo rock)
Machinehead
Metallica
Mudvayne
Seether
Slipknot
Static-X
Stone Sour
Sugar Coma
Tool
Hatebreed (hardcore?)


Death Metal
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Flagband(s): Morbid Angel, Fear Factory (slightly, slightly symphonic, first stage only)

Amon Amarth (Melodic)
Anasarca
Beheaded
Cannibal Corpse (DeathGore-Metal)
Corpse Vomit
Children of Bodom (Swedish DM?, does not sound AT ALL like Death Metal, only band with keys that I wouldn't consider "Symphonic")
Chronic Disorder
Curriculum Mortis (Melodic)
Dimmak
Fleshtized
Guidance of Sin (Melodic)
Iniquity
Nephasth
Panzerchrist
Taetre (somewhat melodic)
Thalarion (Symphonic Melodic and (somewhat) Epic)

Black Metal
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Flagband(s): Dimmu Borgir (Symphonic, first stage = true BM)

Agathodaimon (Symphonic)
Bathory
Cathedral (Symphonic)
Cradle of Filth (Symphonic)
Dark Funeral (Symphonic)
Graveworm (Symphonic, my current favorite)
Kovenant (Symphonic, first stage = true BM)
Old Man's Child (Symphonic?)
Pik (Doom Rock)
Rotting Christ (Symphonic)
Wolfheart (thrash)

Thrash Metal
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Flagband(s): Meshuggah (Progressive Technical)

Darkane (Heavy Progressive Technical)
The Haunted (Heavy)

Nu-Metal(can be described as Nu because it is popular, but this SOUND can also be achieved by much less popular bands, keep that in mind. Also keep mind that I wouldn't be surprised if half these bands ARE actually Nu-Metal in Europe. I prefer mainstream over Nu to describing pop metal, because really, what is popular is culture specific, it could be different in another country)
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Disturbed
Fear Factory (heavy industrial, technical, more symphonic, transition stage and third stage only)
In Flames
Jerkstore
Korn(rock then?)
Mevadio
Mnemic (heavy, hybrid, progressive fast fusion, huge variety of heavy styles)
Raunchy
Sacrificial
Seether
System of a Down (punkishly hardcore)
Withering Surface (thrash)

Progressive
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Opeth (pseudo BM, real type=progressive dark emo with true BM sound, roughly 50 percent of their music is not ENTIRELY metal through the whole song, while about 10 percent is not metal at all, strange band)

Indie-Metal
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Kloak

Psychedelic Metal (yes this is an actual type)
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Apex Theory
Alchemist

Heavy Metal
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Artillery
Fight (rock)
Heaven's Cry
Symphony X

Rock-Rap
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Flag band(s): Cypresshill (final stage)

Kush
Limp Bizkit

Power Metal
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DragonForce (this band is the reason I DON'T like Power Metal)

Other/Bands I don't know much of but still like
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Gwar
Mushroomhead
Super Joint Ritual
Lamb of God
Melvins
Nirvana
Black Sabbath
Buruzia (is that spelt right, features drummer from Fear Factory?)

I know OF many other bands (both popular and underground) but they aren't worth it to list on here because I know so little of them.



That's the list, I welcome any and all comments, privately and publically, since my only goal in life at the moment is to further my knowledge and correctness on metal and metal culture.

ANYONE WITH GOOD SYMPHONIC BLACK METAL (better or as good as Graveworm or Dimmu Borgir) OR REALLY HARD HITTING NU-METAL (better or as good as Mnemic or System of a Down) CONTACT ME IMMEDIATELY WITH THE NAMES. ALSO ANYONE WITH ANY MUSIC THAT SOUNDS LIKE AMON AMARTH AND CURRICULUM MORTIS OR OPETH OR CHILDREN OF BODOM ALSO CONTACT ME IMMEDIATELY.

Couple corrections, if you are going for knowledge. Fear Factory is grindcore. Nirvana is not in any way shape or form metal, they are grunge. Black Sabbath is Doom, the Melvins are punk, Gwar is Death.

[Bartender]

Fear Factory are not grindcore; they were death metal, now they're metal with industrial influence. The Melvins are not punk. Sabbath are not pure doom, they just influenced it hugely - I'd just call them heavy metal.

[Jondur]

Fear Factory are not grindcore; they were death metal, now they're metal with industrial influence. The Melvins are not punk. Sabbath are not pure doom, they just influenced it hugely - I'd just call them heavy metal.

So all in all the corrections need serious correcting. And Gwar are about as far away from death metal as you can get!!

[Bartender]

I've never heard Gwar - is that a good thing?

[thyrfing]

i always thought of FF as cyber metal
dont waste your braincells on gwar, lol

ok, first off.. lol, the power metal band posted is BS, you want power metal look into Blind Guardian, they are the best of the genre

as for prog, why give the big explanation, just say Rush

some of the other bands on there are questionable, i never knew symphony x is heavy metal, they dont have anything in common with the other bands listed, you might as well put them in the power/progressive area

best symphonic noise i guess would be arcturus, ulver?

[Per Ardua Ad Astra]

I've never heard Gwar - is that a good thing?

:lol:
They are basically the non grindcore version of 'Anal Cunt'

some of the other bands on there are questionable, i never knew symphony x is heavy metal, they dont have anything in common with the other bands listed, you might as well put them in the power/progressive area

Symphony X is definitely progressive metal.

[Crocto]

good list! though in the near future nu-metal may be gone completely. also no testament listed under thrash? aww come on!

[ReadtheManual]

Gwar is insane. listen to 'em

[AnesthesiaBassist]

very good



can i ask what type of metal is testament?

[ConquerorWorm]

Few things...

Gwar is an insane band who you should definatly hear but you don't get the full impact of them 'til you see 'em in concert.

And I was just wondering why you didn't mention that alot of Swedish death metal is melodic death. Ex. Arch Enemy, Hypocracy, etc..

Last, how can you forget Cannibal Corpse in death metal!?! To me, they are the definitive death metal band.

Oh, and as far as Lamb of God, I have a hard time deciding what genre they fit into as well. They have so many different styles to them it's impossible to categorize that band.

[gregnirvana]

husher metal. i think it grew from the seatle sence with bands like : sound garden (they aint no grunge, its more doom metal with normal rock n' roll and punk over tones)

[Bartender]

^Don't just invent genres for every band that sounds slightly different. Just call them hard rock.

very good



can i ask what type of metal is testament?

Testament are thrash.

[mxdude52]

sorry if this was already posted, but does anyone know of any black/death metal bands that ARENT satanist/anti-christian?

[Per Ardua Ad Astra]

There are plenty of 'white metal' bands (Christian Black metal), for example Vardoger is christian.

By the way, 'white metal' is a ****ing joke.

[mxdude52]

There are plenty of 'white metal' bands (Christian Black metal), for example Vardoger is christian.

By the way, 'white metal' is a ****ing joke.
are you saying that it sucks, or that there is no type of metal that is 'white metal'?

[Puritania]

Its about time that someone finally took the time to do this. I had an argument the other dayw ith a friend f mine about this exact thing, and also there is many other people that need this guideline too. This is excellent and very well done *thumbs up*

:smoke:

[iron giosba]

very good but where is the power metal?you have forgot the blind guardian,stratovarius,gamma ray and some many other :evil:

[FatherKeeL]

this thread is getting silly... why doesnt someone just close it?

[Black Death]

Which genere did Symphony X belong to?
(Casual guess: Progressive)

[Bartender]

some of the other bands on there are questionable, i never knew symphony x is heavy metal, they dont have anything in common with the other bands listed, you might as well put them in the power/progressive area
Symphony X is definitely progressive metal.

:).

[Per Ardua Ad Astra]

are you saying that it sucks, or that there is no type of metal that is 'white metal'?

The overall point of white metal is stupid, it goes against everything black metal was created for but yet they still try to create the same type of music.
The original black metallers were pagan, and they were anti-christian because the christians basically took over the pagan beliefs in Scandinavia.
Now for white metal to be able to say that they play black metal, and sing about Christianity is the biggest contradiction i've ever heard.

[Last Ditch Effort]

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[Chains]

Ahem... rap metal. Anybody ever mention that? :smash:

[Kingofdudes]

Ahem... rap metal. Anybody ever mention that? :smash:

The name sort of explains itself, a fusion of rap and metal, groups like Rage Against the Machine define the genre.

[extreme_191]

I've really been struggling with trying to find the right metal bands for me. I absolutely adore Megadeth, and hope to expand into black/death metal. I'm looking towards complex music overall, but it doesn't have to be mind-boggling to be good. I know asking for suggestions is asking quite a bit, considering you don't know who I am, but the twist to make things even more difficult is I don't have a music download system to try out each band.

My top 5 favourite bands/artists-Pink Floyd, Tool, Megadeth, Mike Patton, Led Zeppelin. I grew up on classic rock, listen to my dad's albums, and I once loved Metallica (old stuff), but couldn't care less now if they didn't exist.

Here are the albums I'm interested in getting...

COB-Follow The Reaper
Symphony X-V
Spastic Ink-Ink Complete (I don't know how I'll get ahold of this one)
Cynic-Focus

I was impressed with the CD reviews on the more complex albums above. So don't get the idea that I'm just trying to get into technical metal. I'm not too fond of Dani Filth's screeching but I might get used to it. Also note that I play guitar, and love complex riffs, fills, ect, but it doesn't have to be flashy, or technical for the sake of being technical. If it has ood grooves, or solid music, with a great overal band. Please recommend it.

[Bartender]

Ink Complete and Focus are both available at www.lasercd.com. You might also want to check out Gordian Knot, who are a progressive rock/metal instrumental band (pretty much masterminded by Cynic's bassist).

[Per Ardua Ad Astra]

Cynic - Focus is when of the best technical albums i've ever heard, you should definitely go with that.
If you love Megadeth, try to check out Dragonlord, it's sort of thrash/death kind of stuff (the Guitarist of Testament's side project)

[extreme_191]

How's Dark Angel, Testament, ect?

Also I kinda like Progenies of the Great Apocalypse by DB. So should listen to Arcturus, or Emperor, cause they both were recommended to me?

[Bartender]

Dark Angel and Testament are both top-class thrash bands, which are a different kind of metal altogether to the others you've listed (except, at some times, Megadeth). If you want really complex/technical thrash, I think Coroner are your best bet. You could ask in the Titans of Thrash thread, if you like (http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=149488).

Emperor and Arcturus both are (or at least have been at some point) symphonic black metal, which is the same genre as DB. They've also both done it well, from what I've heard, which for me puts them a point above Borgir. They're not technical or complex in the same way as Cynic or Spastic Ink (thanks for reading those reviews, by the way), but they're also nowhere near simple - Arcturus in particular are very much a "thinking man's band", very avant-garde. For more Arcturus info, you can check out Per Ardua's Featured Artist on them (http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=182163).

[Mother]

Atreyu.........which genre do they belong to.

Someone told me that they are emo and im like all confused,cuz i thougth that emo was like Simple plan/Good charlotte and stuff.

[RivFader]

where can we put Ozzy Osbourne while he was with Randy Rhodes?is it hair metal or something?

[RivFader]

i think that Symphony X is also considered progressive symphonic metal

[Drumma]

Love Metal

[Bartender]

Atreyu.........which genre do they belong to.

Someone told me that they are emo and im like all confused,cuz i thougth that emo was like Simple plan/Good charlotte and stuff.

I'm pretty sure Atreyu are metalcore, so that's why they don't sound like emo.

Good Charlotte and Simple Plan are both pop punk, so even if Atreyu did sound like them they wouldn't be emo.

[Per Ardua Ad Astra]

Also I kinda like Progenies of the Great Apocalypse by DB. So should listen to Arcturus, or Emperor, cause they both were recommended to me?

If your going to get an Arcturus album get 'Aspera Hiems Symfonia' it's the only Full length they released that is symphonic black metal, if you like Progenies of the Great Apocalypse you would probably like Arcturus and Emperor, though Arcturus and Emperor are both vastly different than Dimmu Borgir, so be ready for an upgrade.
By the way, do what you can to avoid Cradle of Filth.

[extreme_191]

By the way, do what you can to avoid Cradle of Filth.


Thanks, I wasn't trying to imply the idea of listening to them. I was pointing out that I'm not fond of the shreeking style scream that Dani does. Also what Emperor album should I check out?

[Per Ardua Ad Astra]

'In the Nightside Eclipse' and 'Anthems to the Welkin at dusk' are both classic symphonic black metal albums. If you want sort of an overview of Emperor throughout the years you may want to check out 'Emperial Live Ceremony.'