Classic Rock

[magicbus]

I remember talking about OAR with JPJ before.....that's all I got.

[Johnny B. Good]

Being 15 is bad,
no drivers license...:(
but you have one more year till you get your liscense, unless you live in England, which (unless I'm misinformed) they don't get their liscenes till they're 17 or 18

[Freddie9]

Could you recommend me a song or two? I'm intrigued
timmy tucker
meat
seat of my pants
mexico
not coming down

[jpj]

Could you recommend me a song or two? I'm intrigued
http://web1.nugs.net/stash.asp

Go there listen and enjoy.

[Badmoon]

Spine of a Dog
Mexico
Again and Again

[IAJP]

Bloody England...:angry:

[Schyma]

*Offcial Jam\Classic Rock Thread*

[lunch998]

*Offcial Jam\Classic Rock Thread*

Badmoon wins.

[magicbus]

This thread moves so fast sometimes.

[Freddie9]

George Clinton and the P-Funk Allstars came to my town last week

[jpj]

Badmoon wins.
Badmoon has corrupted my once innocent mind.

[lunch998]

This thread moves so fast sometimes.

Yet we never talk about anything.

[IAJP]

Has anybody heard anything by Foghat?

[Schyma]

Badmoon has corrupted my once innocent mind.
*true* :upset:

[lunch998]

Has anybody heard anything by Foghat?

Yea, they are decent. Not great or anything.

[jpj]

Has anybody heard anything by Foghat?
No, I would like to though. They intrigue me for some reason.

[Walrus Gumboot]

http://web1.nugs.net/stash.asp

Go there listen and enjoy.
Thank you SO much

[jpj]

Thank you SO much
Well, you should thank Livewired too since he showed it to me.

[magicbus]

Yet we never talk about anything.
Its like Seinfeld!

[Schyma]

Badmoon has corrupted my once innocent mind.
Jam band fanatic > Led Z. fanboy :p

[Freddie9]

Has anybody heard anything by Foghat?
slowride

[IAJP]

No, I would like to though. They intrigue me for some reason.
They did a cover of Al Green's "Take Me To The River"Their best song IMO is Slowride.

[jpj]

Its like Seinfeld!
:lol: I love Seinfeld, we got the box set for my dad for Christmas, but it was more a gift for ourselves.

[jpj]

Jam band fanatic > Led Z. fanboy :p
I will eat your children.

EDIT: Foghat did Slowride? Well then I love Foghat :p

[IAJP]

slowride
:cool: From what I've heard they rock pretty hard, my dad loves them.
They're like, the quinessential dad rock band, they rocked hard, but didn't really have any scandal like drugs or anything. :lol:

[Schyma]

http://web1.nugs.net/stash.asp

Go there listen and enjoy.
Great ****en site!!!!! :thumb:

[Freddie9]

:cool: From what I've heard they rock pretty hard, my dad loves them.
They're like, the quinessential dad rock band, they rocked hard, but didn't really have any scandal like drugs or anything. :lol:
thats what my dad thinks. i bought him a $2.50 foghat album that i found at tower records.

[jpj]

Great ****en site!!!!! :thumb:
You didn't know about it? Livewired posted it in here a couple hundred pages ago.

[Freddie9]

Great ****en site!!!!! :thumb:
i just wish that they would make all the shows available for download instead of just a few at a time.

[IAJP]

thats what my dad thinks. i bought him a $2.50 foghat album that i found at tower records.
:lol:
Told ya ;).
Oh well, I'm off..
bye :)

[Schyma]

You didn't know about it? Livewired posted it in here a couple hundred pages ago.
Man I wish I knew about that sooner! :amaze:

[Walrus Gumboot]

Jam bands just aren't as much fun if you don't play in one

[magicbus]

:lol: I love Seinfeld, we got the box set for my dad for Christmas, but it was more a gift for ourselves.

We were gonna do that, but instead we got him the newest SRV dvd. Seinfeld was too much, but everyone in my family loves it.

[jpj]

Jam bands just aren't as much fun if you don't play in one
Yea, whenever I listen to Mule, Panic, and such I'm always jealous that I'm not in one.

And my dad bought the SRV DVD for himself so I have both :)

[Freddie9]

so what qms songs should i download. its kinda new to me

[lunch998]

so what qms songs should i download. its kinda new to me

Download the whole "Who Do You Love?" song.

[Schyma]

I think "Calvary" is their greatest song....Its kinda like "Intersteller Overdrive"

[Walrus Gumboot]

Dino's song

I would but my windows media player was finally hijacked by spyware

[RNR]

It's offical. We're changing the name of the thread :p.

*listened to Dino's Song and deemed it "teh pwnz0krkz"

[Woodstock]

Download Gold and Silver, and then The Fool.

[jpj]

It's offical. We're changing the name of the thread :p.

*listened to Dino's Song and deemed it "teh pwnz0krkz"
Are we realy? Do you think Bonz0 would care, I mean we like half hijacked his thread.

[Schyma]

I need some Mule any recomendations?

[Schyma]

Are we realy? Do you think Bonz0 would care, I mean we like half hijacked his thread.
Bonz0 never comes here he wont care.

[Woodstock]

We should change the name of the thread. It's needs an update.

[Against Miik!]

To what

[Against Miik!]

Wait I have one...


Brother Miiks traveling salvation show

[Woodstock]

I want it to be the Classic Rock Disussion/Community Thread.

[RNR]

That sounds good but I was thinking of putting jam rock in there somewhere.

[Schyma]

Yes and thats exactully what this thread is^

To Woodstock^

[Woodstock]

That sounds good but I was thinking of putting jam rock in there somewhere.
No, this is and always should be a Classic rock thread. The only jam bands we should discuss in here would also have to be considered classic rock. i.e. The Allman Brothers

[Schyma]

That sounds good but I was thinking of putting jam rock in there somewhere.
How about we make a jam rock thread instead? Other music already has one.

[MalcolmYoungRock]

The Dead is kind of classic rock also.

Except sometimes we talk about Phish and they're not classic rock..??

[Against Miik!]

If we are just gonna change it to Classic Rock Discussion Thread or something like that, I don't see much of a point.

[jpj]

I need some Mule any recomendations?
Blind Man In the Dark, Thorazine Shuffle, Thelonious Beck, Birth of the Mule, 30 Days In the Hole, Mule, Dolphineus, Wandering Child, Lay Your Burden Down.

[Woodstock]

If we are just gonna change it to Classic Rock Discussion Thread or something like that, I don't see much of a point.
I had a /Community in there.

[Schyma]

I had a /Community in there.
Were just like the R&M Community thread but Classic Rock.

[thickasabrick]

If we called it the Classic Rock Community thread, that just means avid fans of classic rock can come here and talk about stuff. it's basically all we do now, except then we can talk about jam bands and other forms of music without "being off topic"

the only problem would be there might be more spam.

[Woodstock]

Were just like the R&M Community thread but Classic Rock.
Exactly, that's why I say we should put it in there.

[Schyma]

Who votes Classic Rock Community thread? Got 2 so far.

[Badmoon]

It cannot be a community thread. There already is one.

Classic Rock/Jam Band Thread.

[thickasabrick]

well theres already a jam band thread in other music, so it's kind of odd having another one don't you think? or will we just mold them together or something? i dont know how this stuff works.

i'm fine with whatever someone with authority decides that means mods and classic rock regulars, not just any member/n00b.

[Badmoon]

It is in a different forum. They are like different states. Besides, there is a Forced Listening inside of every forum. But there is already a community thread inside of this forum. Two community forums is stupid. Also, this is a music thread, it should be kept that way. And no, who ever said they are altering the "community thread consept"...no. This is not the YMCA.

/sarge

[Schyma]

*1. Classic Rock/Jam Band Thread
*2. Classic Rock Community Thread
*3. Classic Rock Disussion/Community Thread
*4. Leave it the way it is.

Please Classic Rock regulars pick one.

[Johnny B. Good]

Any will probably work

[magicbus]

I like 3, because while the R & M community thread is made up of the R & M community, our thread only is only us 15 or so (and the occasional other kid), so its a CR community. Because usually its just us.

[Schyma]

I vote 3 aswell.

[RNR]

5. Classic rock/jam band discussion/community thread :p

[Schyma]

Thats overdoing it dont you think?

[lunch998]

No no, we should be the Classic rock Discussion Experience Featuring Lunch.



I don't think we should have Jam Band in the title, because that limits the other genres we talk about. Community would be good because we wouldn't have to worry about spamming.

[RNR]

:eek: that's true. Plus I mean, really. Jam is close enough to classic rock. We could put it in the first post that we also like jam rock.

/me changes vote to 3.

[lunch998]

I vote 3 as well.

21,000.

[Badmoon]

Okay, let's have a second community thread. And on the side, we will talk about Classic Rock :rolleyes:

[lunch998]

Okay, let's have a second community thread. And on the side, we will talk about Classic Rock :rolleyes:

No it's the Classic Rock Discussion/Community Thread. First and foremost is classic rock discussion, and the community just makes it so our tight-knit group of regulars can discuss other topics in here(safe from all the metalheads.)

[jpj]

Yea, I really don't like the idea of having "community" in the title, and I don't think the mods would like it either.

[RNR]

How 'bouts Classic rock/jam band discussion thread.

[jpj]

How 'bouts Classic rock/jam band discussion thread.
Yea, that's fine.

[lunch998]

Whatever, that title sucks. I'm seceeding from the union if we change our name to include Jam bands but no other genre.

[Badmoon]

Yea, I really don't like the idea of having "community" in the title, and I don't think the mods would like it either.

Now, let's just hope the mods have enough sense to agree with you.

[lunch998]

Why don't we just keep the same name? There hasn't been a problem with it for 21000 posts.

[jpj]

Why don't we just keep the same name? There hasn't been a problem with it for 21000 posts.
I agree.

[Schyma]

Im changeing my vote to 4. I liked the idea of this thread being called a community because thats exactlly what we are "The Classic Rock Community".

[lunch998]

Im changeing my vote to 4. I liked the idea of this thread being called a community because thats exactlly what we are "The Classic Rock Community".

We are, I agree. But apparently that ain't gonna fly.

[RNR]

Classic rock discussion thead would be nice. It would stop the idiot n00bs from quoting the first page.

[lunch998]

Classic rock discussion thead would be nice. It would stop the idiot n00bs from quoting the first page.

Yea I like that to.

[Schyma]

So its settled were keeping the name. :chug:

[lunch998]

Yea let's get drunk now.

[RNR]

So its settled were keeping the name. :chug:
Just "classic rock"? Not even classic rock discussion thread?

Bonzo never intended this to be more than 50 posts and it's not written to be what it is now.

[lunch998]

Just "classic rock"? Not even classic rock discussion thread?


Only you can get the name changed so it's your call.

[jpj]

I'm fine with just Classic Rock.

[RNR]

See my ninja edit.

[Badmoon]

Classic rock discussion thead would be nice. It would stop the idiot n00bs from quoting the first page.

How?

[RNR]

Umm, i'm not exactly sure :(.

Cmon guys, The Classic Rock Discussion Thread.

[Badmoon]

Looks like you have some thinking to do.

[lunch998]

I think we need a chat.

[jpj]

I guess I like Classic Rock Discussion Thread, I don't care.

[Lucky0889]

What do you guys think of Boston??

[RNR]

Great band. I have and enjoy listening to their first album.

[Badmoon]

Good stuff :thumb:

[Johnny B. Good]

Band with good vocal harmonies, first album is good, 2nd is okay, 3rd blows and so do any albums afterward

[Against Miik!]

Yeah I don't know what happend with Boston. I love the first album. I would put it up with the top 10 classic albums ever. But after that, they just sucked. But every song on the first album is just great. My favorite song is "Something About You". I really want to find a tab for it.

[Johnny B. Good]

I like Peace of Mind the best

[Illmatic]

I despise Boston (they disgrace the city!)....so once again, I'm in the minority.

[Johnny B. Good]

I despise Boston (they disgrace the city!)....so once again, I'm in the minority.
Why don't you like them?

...and let's not beat those Steelers :D

[Illmatic]

They're generic, boring, schlocky corporate arena rock.

And we will show the Steelers that payback is a bitch.

[RNR]

Everyone knows that i'm an arena rock whore. So I lvoe them :) (mainly just the first album though).

[Illmatic]

I dig Van Halen, so I don't mind a little cheese, but early Van Halen struck me as being a little tongue-in-cheek, whereas Boston seemed to take themselves 100% seriously.

[Johnny B. Good]

They're generic, boring, schlocky corporate arena rock.

And we will show the Steelers that payback is a bitch.
Anything after their first album I think is generic, and boring


.....Rothlisburger(forgive me for incorrect spelling), Jerome Bettis, and the rest of Steelers are going rape them in the @ss :cool:

[jpj]

Roethlisberger, I believe and we will tear the Pats a new *******.

[Illmatic]

Please. We held the Colts to 3 points. I think we can stump Big Ben and stop the Bus.

[Schyma]

This is a Classic Rock Thread not football thread. :rolleyes:

[Johnny B. Good]

Yeah that's what you said when we killed your winning streak

[Illmatic]

We didn't have Dillon then. Also Randall Gay has come a long way from that game. Plaxico won't burn him badly.

(also, post 1,000 baby)

[Schyma]

Ill started handing out neg reps if you guys keep talking sports.

[Illmatic]

Tell them to stop talking trash about my Pats.

[Schyma]

Who?

[Against Miik!]

Patriots?

[Johnny B. Good]

Alrighty then, lets talk about the Doors.
What do guys best like about the Doors music
I really like the poetry a lot, that's prolly why I like The Crystal Ship so much

[Schyma]

Look we all know Steelers > Pats....end of discussion.

[Johnny B. Good]

That's why I started discussing the Doors a post or two ago

[Badmoon]

Bill Clinton and Al Gore wore Jerry Garcia ties :cool:

[RNR]

Alrighty then, lets talk about the Doors.
What do guys best like about the Doors music
I really like the poetry a lot, that's prolly why I like The Crystal Ship so much

The Doors either make extremely odd and trippy songs which I love the most about them. Or pop songs which I secretly like (not really secretly now). They're an awesome band.

[Schyma]

Bill Clinton and Al Gore wore Jerry Garcia ties :cool:
When? How? What? :confused:

[Johnny B. Good]

The Doors either make extremely odd and trippy songs which I love the most about them. Or pop songs which I secretly like (not really secretly now). They're an awesome band.
which pop songs

[Badmoon]

Jerry appreciated formal dressing, so he decided to make a tie brand. And two of his costumers were Gore and Clinton.

[Illmatic]

And?

[Badmoon]

That's interesting. It's an explanation and follow up to my previous comment.

[Illmatic]

So I see.

[Schyma]

I think they are the greatest band ever behind of course The Beatles. I love the poetry and the psychedellic feeling they give off. With John smashing into his jazzy style of drum playing, Robby playing his SG as if he it were a spanish classical guitar (flaminko), Ray on his orgins seem to give off a Monk kinda style and then theres Jim with his amazing sexual energy that he brings to the stage and then screams his soul down into the mic. The Doors are Coltrane psychedellic mix which blends together simply amazingly.

*Favorite Band*

[Johnny B. Good]

I think they are the greatest band ever behind of course The Beatles. I love the poetry and the psychedellic feeling they give off. With John smashing into his jazzy style of drum playing, Robby playing his SG as if he it were a spanish classical guitar (flaminko), Ray on his orgins seem to give off a Monk kinda style and then theres Jim with his amazing sexual energy that he brings to the stage and then screams his soul down into the mic. The Doors are Coltrane psychedellic mix which blends together simply amazingly.

*Favorite Band*
I LOVE John's drumming, its not the best out there, but his jazz style of drumming is so perfect for The Doors and awesome. What's your fav song by them

[Illmatic]

The Doors are pretty hit-or-miss for me. I really need to be in the mood to listen to them, and some of their material is fairly unlistenable.

[Schyma]

Long list short I chould say 6 out of the 11 songs of each album.

[Johnny B. Good]

The Doors are pretty hit-or-miss for me. I really need to be in the mood to listen to them, and some of their material is fairly unlistenable.
Who the hell do you listen to? You don't seem to like any of the bands we talk about

[Schyma]

The Doors are pretty hit-or-miss for me. I really need to be in the mood to listen to them, and some of their material is fairly unlistenable.
Which songs how and why?

[Johnny B. Good]

Long list short I chould say 6 out of the 11 songs of each album.
well name a couple

[RNR]

The Doors are pretty hit-or-miss for me. I really need to be in the mood to listen to them, and some of their material is fairly unlistenable.

You just dislike all music don't you? :(

/kidding but you do dislike a LOT of what we talk about.

[Illmatic]

I like The Doors, but I find that sometimes they tend to bore me.

[Schyma]

5 to 1
LA Woman
When the Music is Over
Peace Frog
Alabama Song

Just to name the first five songs that came to mind.

[Johnny B. Good]

I like The Doors, but I find that sometimes they tend to bore me.
What songs do you like by them?

[Johnny B. Good]

5 to 1
LA Woman
When the Music is Over
Peace Frog
Alabama Song

Just to name the first five songs that came to mind.
for a while I was obsessed with 5 to 1 and When the Music is Over

[Against Miik!]

Away from the Doors for a second. Did the band Steelers Wheel do anything worth listening to besides "Stuck In The Middle With You"? I love that song because it always reminds of that scene from Resivoir Dogs.

[Reaganista]

I used to like the Doors. Not so much anymore. Psychadelia and simulated masturbation just isn't as cool as it used to be.

[Illmatic]

Break on Through
Light My Fire
The End
Alabama Song
Soul Kitchen
Back Door Man
Twentieth Century Fox
People Are Strange
Love Me Two Times
You're Lost Little Girl
Moonlight Drive
Touch Me
Waiting For the Sun
Riders on the Storm
LA Woman
Roadhouse Blues

Those are my favorites, at least.

[Schyma]

I forgot who it was but someone had "Little Game" lyrics as their sub title. How do you get those long sub titles anyway?

[Johnny B. Good]

Break on Through
Light My Fire
The End
Alabama Song
Soul Kitchen
Back Door Man
Twentieth Century Fox
People Are Strange
Love Me Two Times
You're Lost Little Girl
Moonlight Drive
Touch Me
Waiting For the Sun
Riders on the Storm
LA Woman
Roadhouse Blues

Those are my favorites, at least.
Those are good songs, I don't like riders of the Storm very much though, what's your fav album of them

[Against Miik!]

I forgot who it was but someone had "Little Game" lyrics as their sub title. How do you get those long sub titles anyway?

want me to IM you the procedure?

[Schyma]

want me to IM you the procedure?
Yes please. :)

[Against Miik!]

What the hell. It was this site you went too. I had it in my favorites and I clicked on it and now it doesn't work. Sry.

[Schyma]

Address?

[jpj]

Yea, it hasn't been working for awhile :(

[Schyma]

That sucks....whats the address?

New avatar <<<<<

[RockAndRoll]

Elvis is not a theif nor was he the first man to make White people like Black music. I believe the first Jazz album was created by a White band.

As far as Rock n Roll goes, Whites did not steal it from Black people. Rock music is actually pretty equal between both races.

Rock n Roll = White Melodies (Country) + Black Rhythm (Blues)

Elvis combined those two elements.

Also, if you trace music back far enough, you'd be amazed how much White Folk music influenced Blues.

/recap

I highly doubt the first jazz album was created by white men I think it was some black dixieland group in the 1910's.

[RNR]

Those are good songs, I don't like riders of the Storm very much though, what's your fav album of them

You don't like riders on the storm? :eek:

[RockAndRoll]

Riders on the storm is the best.

[appreciate_it]

touche'

[clown_phobia]

I like it just by thinking about it... :)

'Riders on the storm... doot doot, doot doot doot'! :)

[IAJP]

which pop songs
Hmm..
Break On Through,Touch Me,Soul Kitchen,20th Century Fox,Ship Of Fools, Love Me Two Times,You Make Me Real, Hello I Love You.
I love absolutley every Doors song, and They are my favourite band :).

/reminds everyone of my up and coming FA on them :eek:

[magicbus]

Riders on the Storm is my favorite song by The Doors. I also like Strange Days, People Are Strange, The End, When The Music's Over, and mostly everything else. Too many to name at least.

And I'll be sure to check out the FA.

[IAJP]

Thanks man,
I'm listening to Moby Grape now, pretty amazing band.
"What's To Choose"

[Badmoon]

I highly doubt the first jazz album was created by white men I think it was some black dixieland group in the 1910's.

Well, it was supposably by a Dixieland group in 1917 who were White. They were named the original Dixieland Jazz Band.

[Illmatic]

What about ragtime? Does that count as jazz or what?

[Badmoon]

No, Ragtime is a seperate (though occasionally similar) genre.

[Illmatic]

Oh.

[Schyma]

Well, it was supposably by a Dixieland group in 1917 who were White. They were named the original Dixieland Jazz Band.
Them just aint telling the truth they stealing music from a poor little negro out in them streets.

*the sarcastic truth^*

[IAJP]

That's true actually.

[Badmoon]

Them just aint telling the truth they stealing music from a poor little negro out in them streets.

*the sarcastic truth^*

No, I highly doubt they weren't original.

[Schyma]

Jazz = Black peoples
Country = White peoples

Lets just leave it that way. We whites cant take credit for Jazz its just not right.

[Badmoon]

What is the point to anything you have said? Each race played a huge role in each genre.

[guitrguy]

How did they in country?

[IAJP]

Zappa was a hugely influencial WHITE jazz artist..so..yeah..

[Schyma]

What is the point to anything you have said? Each race played a huge role in each genre.
Yes but it seems you are trying to take away the creditt that blacks have for Jazz. Sorry for the understanding.

[Badmoon]

How did they in country?

It is said that Black plantations slaves invented the banjo.

[Badmoon]

Yes but it seems you are trying to take away the creditt that blacks have for Jazz. Sorry for the understanding.

No, I was backing up a comment I said about Whites having a place in the Jazz world. Since the early years their have been White Jazz bands (Not the first Jazz bands, but none the less White Jazz Bands).

You are trying to serperate them (Ultimatley kind of making you racist), while I'm showing how each race plays a role in each other races genre.

[RockAndRoll]

Well, it was supposably by a Dixieland group in 1917 who were White. They were named the original Dixieland Jazz Band.
I was pretty sure it was 1917 and a dixieland group but I was pretty sure they were black. Ah well.

[Schyma]

No, I was backing up a comment I said about Whites having a place in the Jazz world. Since the early years their have been White Jazz bands (Not the first Jazz bands, but none the less White Jazz Bands).

You are trying to serperate them (Ultimatley kind of making you racist), while I'm showing how each race plays a role in each other races genre.
How am I racist? Im protecting the African-American credit on Jazz.

[guitrguy]

How am I racist? Im protecting the African-American credit on Jazz.
Racism can be against white people too.

[jpj]

It is said that Black plantations slaves invented the banjo.
An instrument similar to the banjo was played in African tribes, and white slave owners saw it, liked it, stole it, played it, then they all started a bluegrass band.

[IAJP]

An instrument similar to the banjo was played in African tribes, and white slave owners saw it, liked it, stole it, and played it. Then they all started a bluegrass band.
Yeah that's true,

[Badmoon]

I was showing you that complete credit can not go to one race.

But no...

OMg Badm00n es b3in s0 raCisT

As far as racism goes, you are trying not to be politically correct. Which is usually okay, and realilistic, but unfortunatley (On your part) each genre we are speaking of is politically correct. Not completely equal, but both Jazz and Country had large roles filled by both White and Black races.

[Badmoon]

An instrument similar to the banjo was played in African tribes, and white slave owners saw it, liked it, stole it, played it, then they all started a bluegrass band.

And the point to this is?

[RockAndRoll]

Okay Both races played a role in the creation of both country and jazz (although I don't know much about the country side) Jazz originated from black slaves, it was based on creole rhythms but played on new adaptations of western instruments. The reason for new orleans being such a center for jazz (and blues) was because it was the largest colony of free blacks in north america. There are also many white Jazz artists (or jazz artists from "ofshoot" genres)although many came later because the popularity of jazz in the 20's and 30's did a great deal in apealing to blacks and whites (No elvis wasn't the first to do it).

[guitrguy]

And the point to this is?
Hes elaborating on your general statement.

[jpj]

And the point to this is?
Well, you said that it is said that Africans invented the banjo, and I was basically telling you that that was correct.

[Schyma]

Who can name the person in my avatar? For rep

[Badmoon]

Coltrane

Give the rep to someone without stars though.

[IAJP]

Coltrane

Give the rep to someone without stars though.
:lol: within the same minute as he posted,
well done :lol:

[Schyma]

Who here thinks Whites hijacked Blues I mean really?

[RockAndRoll]

Coltrane

:p

rep for anyone who can tell me who zutty singleton is.

[RockAndRoll]

Who here thinks Whites hijacked Blues I mean really?
Nah man, music is music If you feel it you can be green for all I care.

[RNR]

They kind of did. They made it more hard rocky (blues rock) and then a ton of white guys started playing blues.

Like Healey

<-----

[Schyma]

Coltrane

Give the rep to someone without stars though.
Good because I cant give you any more rep...spread.

[Badmoon]

You could say Blacks stole Folk from the Whites and made Blues. It would make sense. That was the only real music going around at the time.

[Schyma]

*thinks of Eric Clapton strongly*

[Schyma]

You could say Blacks stole Folk from the Whites and made Blues. It would make sense. That was the only real music going around at the time.
Great point but nobody knows who spawned Folk.

[RockAndRoll]

This is kind of silly, neither group "stole" music from the other. I mean is a black playing blues/folk really any different from a white playing blues/folk. Can a genre belong to someone even? And if it does why should it be to a race, why not to anyone who can feel it?

[Schyma]

Well because white people are like African-American's popular little brother in which big bro comes up with something brilliant and little bro comes out to everyone and claims its his idea.

[Badmoon]

Great point but nobody knows who spawned Folk.

Well, this is the common and most likely correct belief. Folk devolped in the Appalachian Mountains. Which is exactly where the Scottish and Irish settle many years ago. That is why American Roots and Scottish/Irish Roots are musically very similar.

[RockAndRoll]

Well because white people are like African-American's popular little brother in which big bro comes up with something brilliant and little bro comes out to everyone and claims its his idea.
It's pretty widely accepted that jazz and blues were invented by the blacks and played an absolutely enormous role in western music as we know it though.

[Badmoon]

Well because white people are like African-American's popular little brother in which big bro comes up with something brilliant and little bro comes out to everyone and claims its his idea.

Though I do not like to say other races stole music and such, Black music usually goes back to one place, White music. Whites provided most the instruments the Blacks used to create Blues, their early style, and their reasoning for the Blues (most importantly). Which would of course turned into Jazz later on.

If you put it that way, the White race is the older more unappreciated brother. While the Blacks are the less original little brother who everyone always trusts and believes.

It is all about how you look at it.

[Schyma]

Though I do not like to say other races stole music and such, Black music usually goes back to one place, White music. Whites provided most the instruments the Blacks used to create Blues, their early style, and their reasoning for the Blues (most importantly). Which would of course turned into Jazz later on.

If you put it that way, the White race is the older more unappreciated brother. While the Blacks are the less original little brother who everyone always trusts and believes.

It is all about how you look at it.
True and lets leave it at that.

So whats everyone's favorite Jazz musician?

Mine is of corse Coltrane.

[RockAndRoll]

Though I do not like to say other races stole music and such, Black music usually goes back to one place, White music. Whites provided most the instruments the Blacks used to create Blues, their early style, and their reasoning for the Blues (most importantly). Which would of course turned into Jazz later on.

If you put it that way, the White race is the older more unappreciated brother. While the Blacks are the less original little brother who everyone always trusts and believes.

It is all about how you look at it.
I think it should be agreed that if you are to look at it by race both races are of large influence. Blacks used creole rhythms to create the music but used western instruments, and did incorporate western musical ideas. By the same folk music was a western based music but the banjo for example was originally a black instrument.

Really the new mixture of races played a humongous part in the development of modern western music but other than that it's somewhat silly to make it about race.

[Badmoon]

:)

It's hard for me to choose a strait up Jazz artist as my favorite. Since Bela Fleck and David Grisman can not be counted as strait up Jazz, it is of course really hard for me.

So I guess Coltrane also.

EDIT: Not Coltrane, definitley Wes Montgomery. :D

[RockAndRoll]

does it have to be straight up jazz though?

[Schyma]

No but yes.

Wes Montgomery = Good choice

[Badmoon]

The Byrds own.

/of topic

[guitrguy]

Thelonius monk, Louis Armstrong

[Badmoon]

Louis Armstrong is awesome.

"Mack the Knife" > all


The Byrds > The Yardbirds

[Schyma]

The Byrds own.

/of topic
The Byrds infact do own and I wish I had more than just them covering Dylan. I need 5th Demention and Mr. Tambourine Man.

[Badmoon]

Do you have Sweetheart of the Rodeo?

[Schyma]

Louis Armstrong is awesome.

"Mack the Knife" > all


The Byrds > The Yardbirds
Charlie Parker > all

You cant compare the The Byrds and The Yardbirds but I agree.

[Schyma]

Do you have Sweetheart of the Rodeo?
No Just The Byrds Play Dylan its kinda rare.

[guitrguy]

If you can't compare then you couldn't make a decision.

[Badmoon]

Yeah you can ;). I'm even starting to doubt that The Yardbirds technical ability was greater. Clarence White was an absolute machine. He died too young :(.

[RockAndRoll]

Louis Armstrong is awesome.

"Mack the Knife" > all


The Byrds > The Yardbirds
His rendition of Mack the knife is my favourite, but I always find it harder to find then others' renditions.

[Badmoon]

I have it on a Greatest Hits. Just from the first 3 seconds, you know it's going to own.

Country Rock > Blues Rock

IMO

[Schyma]

I have about five Thelonius Monk albums but haven't herad them all. :(

[Schyma]

I have it on a Greatest Hits. Just from the first 3 seconds, you know it's going to own.

Country Rock > Blues Rock

IMO
Country < Blues

IMO

[Badmoon]

I still wouldn't agree.

[RNR]

I listen to more blues rock artists but country rock is awesome too.

[RockAndRoll]

I have it on a Greatest Hits. Just from the first 3 seconds, you know it's going to own.

Country Rock > Blues Rock

IMO
Anything that while i'm listening to it makes me think it's the best thing ever written> anything else.

other than that it starts getting to hard to distinguish with all the different subgenres and subsubgenres.

[Schyma]

Robert Johnson > Any British dude who tried to copy

[ATM]

I'd take blues over country anyday. But, it's not really fair for me to say that because the only country I have heard is the crap on the radio.

[RockAndRoll]

Robert Johnson > Any British dude who tried to copy
I dunno. but one thing's for sure...

Using the ">" sing to make your opinion clear > not using the ">" sign to make you opinion clear.

[RNR]

Radio country does indeed suck. It has to be mixed with rock.

[Badmoon]

I'll post a Byrds song in a minute.

[RNR]

Yeah, The Byrds were a perfect example of great country rock.

[ATM]

Radio country does indeed suck. It has to be mixed with rock.


Any suggestions? The closest I have come to country is probably Marshall Tucker Band.

[Schyma]

I dunno. but one thing's for sure...

Using the ">" sing to make your opinion clear > not using the ">" sign to make you opinion clear.
2562x > 646456y+89x

Yes Country mainstream does indeed suck. (today)

[Schyma]

Can someone send me "8 Miles High"?

[RNR]

Any suggestions? The closest I have come to country is probably Marshall Tucker Band.

Some Steve Earle, Blues Rodeo and The Byrds will do well.

[ATM]

Some Steve Earle, Blues Rodeo and The Byrds will do well.


Who was in the Byrds?

[Badmoon]

Country/Bluegrass/Folk
---------------------------
Old & In the Way
David Grisman
Johnny Cash
Willie Nelson
Chet Atkins
Bill Monroe
Vassar Clements
Flatt & Scruggs
Doc Watson
Tony Rice
Woody Guthrie

Country/Bluegrass/Folk Rock or Newer forms of

Grateful Dead
The Byrds
Buffalo Springfield
Yonder Mountain String Band
Bela Fleck
Widespread Panic
New Riders of the Purple Sage
Jerry Garcia & David Grisman
The String Cheese Incident
Nickel Creek
Leftover Salmon

[Badmoon]

Who was in the Byrds?

Key Players: David Crosby, Roger McGuinn, Clarence White, Gram Parson, etc

[Badmoon]

http://s26.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3L68U58R63Z103K2UZEURZZUGW

The Byrds - You Ain't Going Nowhere

[ATM]

Country/Bluegrass/Folk
---------------------------
Old & In the Way
David Grisman
Johnny Cash
Willie Nelson
Chet Atkins
Bill Monroe
Vassar Clements
Flatt & Scruggs
Doc Watson
Tony Rice
Woody Guthrie

Country/Bluegrass/Folk Rock or Newer forms of

Grateful Dead
The Byrds
Buffalo Springfield
Yonder Mountain String Band
Bela Fleck
Widespread Panic
New Riders of the Purple Sage
Jerry Garcia & David Grisman
The String Cheese Incident
Nickel Creek
Leftover Salmon

I've heard a few of those bands and liked them. I liked the WP mp3's that you posted.

[Badmoon]

Oh Shi, forgot Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young, and The Flying Burrito Brothers.

[ATM]

Oh Shi, forgot Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young, and The Flying Burrito Brothers.


I know all of the more popular ones you listed. And I found out about the Flying Burrito Brothers after watching the Festival Express DVD. You catch that yet?

[ATM]

/puts on Johnny Cash's Drive On

[Badmoon]

I've seen parts. I don't own it so I haven't gotthe chance to see it all.

[Jam2Me]

Roger McGuinn is pretty amazing.

I have a Byrds greatest hits compilation its pretty great, but that's about all I need.

[Johnny B. Good]

Crosby was the one from CSN&Y who was in the Byrds, right?

[magicbus]

My cousin started listening to The Band. :upset:

Here's the story on him: He takes everything I've ever done, and starts doing it. I started guitar, he picked it up a month later. I started listening to Classic Rock, he started copying me. He would've never heard of Zeppelin, Floyd, Cream, The Doors, Yes, or The Who without me. Luckily he's only picked the common CR bands. Basically he's a faggot.

Today he tells me that he bought a greatest hits cd of The Band from Best Buy. He's never heard a song by them. I made the mistake of mentioning The Last Waltz in front of him, and it was over. He would've never found out about them, ever, in his life, if I didn't tell him about that movie. And now he knows. Everyone I ask has never heard of The Band (except for you guys), and now my cousin knows them. My life is over. I am actually enraged right now, seeing red if you will. :upset:


On a side note, I rule his *** at guitar, and I will always have that on him.

[IAJP]

My cousin started listening to The Band. :upset:

Here's the story on him: He takes everything I've ever done, and starts doing it. I started guitar, he picked it up a month later. I started listening to Classic Rock, he started copying me. He would've never heard of Zeppelin, Floyd, Cream, The Doors, Yes, or The Who without me. Luckily he's only picked the common CR bands. Basically he's a faggot.

Today he tells me that he bought a greatest hits cd of The Band from Best Buy. He's never heard a song by them. I made the mistake of mentioning The Last Waltz in front of him, and it was over. He would've never found out about them, ever, in his life, if I didn't tell him about that movie. And now he knows. Everyone I ask has never heard of The Band (except for you guys), and now my cousin knows them. My life is over. I am actually enraged right now, seeing red if you will. :upset:


On a side note, I rule his *** at guitar, and I will always have that on him.
I dunno why, but I get like that too.
One of my friends got some Led Zeppelin CD's at the weekend and I thought "I hate him now" -my conscience-"smack the CD's out his hand, ruin it for everyone, do it do it do it DO IT!!"
It's weird.
Plus, he still isn't as good as you..HE GOT A GREATEST HITS!!
:lol:

[Broken Arrow]

/has read the last 20+ pages

/has missed 15+ conversatrions he could have participated in

/has listened to Stranges Days and half of Waiting for the Sun while reading the 20+ pages

/yesterday watched The Doors Live in Europe 1968

The DVD was short but sweet.

[IAJP]

Waiting For The Sun, is so underated, it's criminal.

/FA on Doors..:eek:

[lunch998]

It's funny how we seem to want to encourage people to listen to classic rock, then if they try to we get angry for some reason. (I'm not making fun of you guys, because the same thing happens to me when my friends try to do it.)

Sweet, they already cancelled school tomorrow.

Quad deuces.

[jpj]

My cousin started listening to The Band. :upset:

Here's the story on him: He takes everything I've ever done, and starts doing it. I started guitar, he picked it up a month later. I started listening to Classic Rock, he started copying me. He would've never heard of Zeppelin, Floyd, Cream, The Doors, Yes, or The Who without me. Luckily he's only picked the common CR bands. Basically he's a faggot.

Today he tells me that he bought a greatest hits cd of The Band from Best Buy. He's never heard a song by them. I made the mistake of mentioning The Last Waltz in front of him, and it was over. He would've never found out about them, ever, in his life, if I didn't tell him about that movie. And now he knows. Everyone I ask has never heard of The Band (except for you guys), and now my cousin knows them. My life is over. I am actually enraged right now, seeing red if you will. :upset:


On a side note, I rule his *** at guitar, and I will always have that on him.
For some reason reading that made me angry at your friend, but I know I shouldn't be angry. I've never even met the guy.

[Badmoon]

Opinions on MP3?

[lunch998]

For some reason reading that made me angry at your friend, but I know I shouldn't be angry. I've never even met the guy.

If Magicbus is angry at him, then we should all be angry. Let's kick his ***.

[jpj]

Opinions on MP3?
It was alright. I wasn't overly fond of it, but it was a good listen.

[IAJP]

If Magicbus is angry at him, then we should all be angry. Let's kick his ***.
*cracks knuckles*