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magicbus
08-23-2004, 07:05 PM
I don't have time to read back all the pages now, but I went to Cedar Point yesterday and was wearing my jim morrison shirt. and some guy told me that his friend's uncle had sex with jim morrison. cool huh! :amaze:

rocked not rolleded
08-23-2004, 07:06 PM
I don't have time to read back all the pages now, but I went to Cedar Point yesterday and was wearing my jim morrison shirt. and some guy told me that his friend's uncle had sex with jim morrison. cool huh! :amaze:

Very cool.

zundelicious
08-23-2004, 07:06 PM
i havnt seen much about kiss in here im not insisting they were awesome but they had some good songs :wave:

Woodstock
08-23-2004, 07:07 PM
wait.... friends UNCLE had secks with Jim Morrison

jpj
08-23-2004, 07:08 PM
who was the pitcher and who was the catcher?

rocked not rolleded
08-23-2004, 07:08 PM
wait.... friends UNCLE had secks with Jim Morrison

It's the 21st century... times they are 'a changin'.

Woodstock
08-23-2004, 07:09 PM
not when Morrison was alive^

rocked not rolleded
08-23-2004, 07:11 PM
not when Morrison was alive^
I knew that :(

It was the 20th century, times they were 'a changin'

Happy?



:mad:

Woodstock
08-23-2004, 07:12 PM
Very much so.

Paranoidd
08-23-2004, 07:20 PM
Morrison did have homosexual relationships, its pretty common.

jpj
08-23-2004, 07:23 PM
it's common to have homosexual relationships? since when?

Badmoon
08-23-2004, 07:32 PM
Since homosexuality has been accepted.

rocked not rolleded
08-23-2004, 07:33 PM
it's common to have homosexual relationships? since when?

Begining in the mid 1970s and becoming more accepted every year since.

jpj
08-23-2004, 07:44 PM
just because they're becoming more accepeted doesn't make them common.

Paranoidd
08-23-2004, 07:54 PM
:confused:

Uh, it sure does. Acceptance means more people come out of the closet.

rocked not rolleded
08-23-2004, 07:56 PM
just because they're becoming more accepeted doesn't make them common.

Common enough for it to be expected...

Now let's stop spamming my thread.

Badmoon
08-23-2004, 07:56 PM
just because they're becoming more accepeted doesn't make them common.

I think someone's got a little comming out of the closet to do. ;)

Paranoidd
08-23-2004, 08:01 PM
Besides, like I said, its documented Morrison would **** anything that moves.

jpj
08-23-2004, 08:02 PM
i'm not surprised considering he was probably on acid evreyday

themightyquinn23
08-23-2004, 08:31 PM
You don't like the allmans or something?

In that case...Get out of my thread! :angry:
NO MORE ALLMANS!! THEY ARE A GOOD BAND, OK! CAN WE PLEASE STOP TALKING ABOUT THEM FOR 2 SECONDS??!?!

jpj
08-23-2004, 08:36 PM
i agree lets talk about sabbath, or do they not qualify as classic rock?

Schyma
08-23-2004, 08:43 PM
They are classic rock......

Woodstock
08-23-2004, 08:43 PM
Yes, they do. But I dont think anyone else likes them that much in this thread.

jpj
08-23-2004, 08:45 PM
aww to bad

Woodstock
08-23-2004, 08:46 PM
I like um though. Sweet Leaf and War Pigs are amazing songs.

jpj
08-23-2004, 08:47 PM
hell yeah i just listened to them on the live reunion cd

NsD
08-23-2004, 08:49 PM
This is only my first post ever, and Sabbath rocks. With a guy in ur band named Geezer, you gotta be good, right? But I'm not sure if I would label them as strictly classic rock, more like 70's metal. At the time it was all about disco so I would label them more as Classic Metal. LOL i dunno if thats stupid or not, it probably is, but you know, thats what i think.

jpj
08-23-2004, 08:50 PM
do you like them better with or without ozzy

NsD
08-23-2004, 08:51 PM
hmm... with ozzy. i mean, you just didn't get that certain feel without ozzy.

Woodstock
08-23-2004, 08:52 PM
No. No. No. They are not metal, they are classic rock and what does disco have to do with it?

Btw, they're not Black Sabbath without Ozzy :D

Schyma
08-23-2004, 08:53 PM
They were way better with Ozzy

jpj
08-23-2004, 08:53 PM
i agree i love ozzy's voice especially when he does that creepy laugh thing

Woodstock
08-23-2004, 08:55 PM
The tone of his voice was meant for that band, and no one elses.

NsD
08-23-2004, 08:55 PM
No. No. No. They are not metal, they are classic rock and what does disco have to do with it?

Btw, they're not Black Sabbath without Ozzy :D

Ah, nothing really. I was just stating the fact that at the time they were popular, the music that was big at the time was very.. uh... fruity. so black sabbath was very different and their music was hard, if that makes sense.

NsD
08-23-2004, 08:57 PM
alright well off the topic of black sabbath, who did u guys like more... rhodes or iommi?

jpj
08-23-2004, 08:58 PM
iommi

Woodstock
08-23-2004, 08:58 PM
A lot of great bands were around during the disco era. Zeppelin, The Who


Iommi. Way more original. He pulled off the perfect dark tone on his guitar.

NsD
08-23-2004, 09:00 PM
A lot of great bands were around during the disco era. Zeppelin, The Who


Iommi. Way more original. He pulled off the perfect dark tone on his guitar.

good point, but in my point of view, black sabbath probably made the darkest music at the time. u know? i mean, i love led zeppelin, and the who and whatnot, but they weren't as hard as black sabbath for their time period.

yeah, i'd have to agree with iommi. but i still think rhodes isn't that far behind him :D

jpj
08-23-2004, 09:01 PM
we could talk about zeppelin, or has that also been overly done on this thread?

Woodstock
08-23-2004, 09:03 PM
Black Sabbath weren't really heavy in my opinion. They just droned their sound and used a lot of flats.

NsD
08-23-2004, 09:04 PM
good point.

lunch998
08-23-2004, 09:08 PM
we could talk about zeppelin, or has that also been overly done on this thread?

I love Zeppelin, but I have a feeling most people in here won't want to talk about them, but we really don't bring them up that often, especially compared to the Allmans :lol: . Plus it's a new fad for some people to not like Led Zeppelin.

The Zeppelin Dvd is amazing though.

jpj
08-23-2004, 09:10 PM
yeah i've watched like 3 times it's what made me get into zeppelin

Woodstock
08-23-2004, 09:10 PM
I still like them, but I dont worship them anymore.

Spectacular DVD especially with DTS sound :thumb:

NsD
08-23-2004, 09:13 PM
yeah, i think they are great and everything, but led zeppelin opened me up to different bands.

The DVD is incredible. i love watching moby dick, even if it is a drum solo :D

jpj
08-23-2004, 09:15 PM
same here. after i was introduced to them i started listening to other classic rock

lunch998
08-23-2004, 09:15 PM
They are the reason that I first got into classic rock, so it's hard for them not be my favorite band. I think people judge them too much, like saying Clapton(or whoever) is so much better than Jimmy Page. I would agree with that but Jimmy never said he was the best guitarist ever, and Zep still made great music. No one in their band is the best, and people shouldn't say they are, but they are all pretty **** good.

Woodstock
08-23-2004, 09:17 PM
I used to worship Zeppelin but then I realized that there is so much more out there like the Doors, CSN&Y, Beatles, Who, and the Grateful Dead.

NsD
08-23-2004, 09:19 PM
same here. after led zeppelin i went into a lot of yardbirds though. possibly because it had page, clapton, and beck.

jpj
08-23-2004, 09:21 PM
anyone have the yardbirds new cd birdland i just got it and it's awesome

lunch998
08-23-2004, 09:24 PM
What is your favorite Zeppelin album? I think IV is overrated kind of, just because people look past all their other stuff just for Stairway to Heaven(I hate this **** song). Zeppelin I is probably my favorite.

RockAndRoll
08-23-2004, 09:25 PM
Morrison did have homosexual relationships, its pretty common.
I didn't think they had ever been confirmed.

Woodstock
08-23-2004, 09:26 PM
Favorite song off Zep 1: Black Mountain Side, great guitar playing

jpj
08-23-2004, 09:26 PM
tie between I and II. it's like choosing between snickers and twix

Woodstock
08-23-2004, 09:27 PM
Or Zeppelin 1 and II

themightyquinn23
08-23-2004, 09:27 PM
How about this discussion: What do you think of Zeppelin stealing music?

jpj
08-23-2004, 09:28 PM
you just ruined my evening

lunch998
08-23-2004, 09:28 PM
My favorite song off 1 might be How Many More Times. Great underrated Zeppelin song.

I really like the first CD of Physical Graffiti, but the Second CD isn't that great.

Against Miik!
08-23-2004, 09:28 PM
Do you mean stealing from old blues musicians?

themightyquinn23
08-23-2004, 09:28 PM
Heh. It has to be addressed.

Woodstock
08-23-2004, 09:28 PM
I'm sure some of it may be true, but most of it, in my opinion, is BS.
But, it depends what side your on.

themightyquinn23
08-23-2004, 09:29 PM
Do you mean stealing from old blues musicians?
Yes I do. For example, Whole Lotta Love was a cover of a Willie Dixon song. I have the site, should I post it here?

jpj
08-23-2004, 09:30 PM
yes you should

RockAndRoll
08-23-2004, 09:30 PM
I'm tired of people whining about zeppelin stealing music.

Black mountain side is a very good song. The entire first album is very good in my opinion.

jpj
08-23-2004, 09:31 PM
didn't they give him credits for it?

Woodstock
08-23-2004, 09:31 PM
Willie Dixon gets credit for Whole Lotta Love.

RockAndRoll
08-23-2004, 09:31 PM
after careful review best song off their first album is how many more times in my opinion.

lunch998
08-23-2004, 09:31 PM
They Borrowed music, but almost all the time they credited the Blues musicians for writing the songs, except for a few times. Why can't you just let the music be good?

jpj
08-23-2004, 09:32 PM
but like shouldn't he have gotten royalties and stuff

Woodstock
08-23-2004, 09:32 PM
It depends on what side your on

Against Miik!
08-23-2004, 09:33 PM
Even if they did steal music, which I wouldn't doubt, it doesn't change my opinion that they are a great band. They obviously had talent.

RockAndRoll
08-23-2004, 09:33 PM
how do you know he didn't?

EDIT: to shouldn't he have gotten royalties n stuff.

themightyquinn23
08-23-2004, 09:33 PM
http://www.warr.org/zep.html

Don't look at this if you are a hardcore Zeppelin fan.

lunch998
08-23-2004, 09:33 PM
Willie Dixon sued Zeppelin in the mid-80's because Whole Lotta Love was a knockoff of his song, "You Need Love." That was one of the few times he wasn't given credit for writing the songs.

themightyquinn23
08-23-2004, 09:34 PM
Willie Dixon gets credit for Whole Lotta Love.
That's AFTER he sued Zeppelin for credit of the song.

NsD
08-23-2004, 09:34 PM
a lot of people borrow music, jimi hendrixs did a cover of all along the watchtower, g n' r did a cover of knockin' on heavens door... i mean its not like its uncommon.

jpj
08-23-2004, 09:34 PM
Even if they did steal music, which I wouldn't doubt, it doesn't change my opinion that they are a great band. They obviously had talent.
i agree

jpj
08-23-2004, 09:35 PM
lets talk about something else. this subject gives me a headache

Against Miik!
08-23-2004, 09:35 PM
http://www.warr.org/zep.html

Don't look at this if you are a hardcore Zeppelin fan.

I would really love sound clips. I didn't see any on there.

lunch998
08-23-2004, 09:36 PM
Yea seriously, people cover music all the time, but if Led Zeppelin does it, that makes them less of a band? That seems like a really far reach for a reason to dislike Zeppelin.

Woodstock
08-23-2004, 09:36 PM
Why are you so obsessed on bringing Zeppelin down, mightyquinn.

You know, Lennon was sued for Come Together.(I love that song.)

NsD
08-23-2004, 09:36 PM
lets talk about something else. this subject gives me a headache

i agree.

themightyquinn23
08-23-2004, 09:37 PM
Yea seriously, people cover music all the time, but if Led Zeppelin does it, that makes them less of a band? That seems like a really far reach for a reason to dislike Zeppelin.
They didn't give credit to the other artist. That makes it totally different. How would you like it if someone stole one of your songs and made money off of it?

ledpoisoning27
08-23-2004, 09:37 PM
1. The ramones aren't classic rock. They are punk.

2. Even if they were classic rock they would still not be on there because they suck.

kthxbye
ok first off we werent talking about "classic" rock, it was the 100 greatest rock and roll songs, and punk is still rock and roll

Woodstock
08-23-2004, 09:38 PM
No. Punk is Punk.

Read the title of the list again, it says classic rock. In the classic rock thread.

If the Ramones wanted a new genre called punk then let it be punk.

NsD
08-23-2004, 09:39 PM
i hate punk. its like a crappy rip off of pop music.

Against Miik!
08-23-2004, 09:39 PM
ok first off we werent talking about "classic" rock, it was the 100 greatest rock and roll songs, and punk is still rock and roll

You can't say "ok first off" if you only have one point to make.

themightyquinn23
08-23-2004, 09:42 PM
Why are you so obsessed on bringing Zeppelin down, mightyquinn.

You know, Lennon was sued for Come Together.(I love that song.)
It's not right! C'mon, we all love music on here, and we all know that you should give credits. What Zeppelin did was wrong and nobody seems to care.

NsD
08-23-2004, 09:43 PM
cause no body really does.

jpj
08-23-2004, 09:43 PM
nobody does care so lets stop ****in talkin about it

Woodstock
08-23-2004, 09:43 PM
What Lennon did was wrong and you dont seem to care.

I'll admit it. Led Zeppelin did do the wrong thing but they paid for there mistake.

NsD
08-23-2004, 09:43 PM
agreed.

RockAndRoll
08-23-2004, 09:43 PM
http://www.warr.org/zep.html

Don't look at this if you are a hardcore Zeppelin fan.
The problem with the list is stuff like this

"uncredited version of a traditional folk tune previously recorded by Bert Jansch. "
So it was a traditional song, it doesn't really matter (Jansch didn't write it he just recorded it once whoopdy freaking doo)

"apparently derived from Eddie Cochran's "Nervous Breakdown." "
So?

"uncredited cover of the traditional song"
once again it's just a traditional song who cares?

"the main guitar line is apparently from "Taurus" by Spirit."
if you have to use the word apparently it's not worth stating.

The rest seem to be valid (not that I've fact checked) but were still most likely altered by the band.

jpj
08-23-2004, 09:44 PM
this topic must end right now

themightyquinn23
08-23-2004, 09:45 PM
What Lennon did was wrong and you dont seem to care.
Lennon took one line, Zeppelin took entire songs.

Woodstock
08-23-2004, 09:46 PM
Stealing is stealing

NsD
08-23-2004, 09:46 PM
oh i got a question for you guys out there, since the topic of "stealing" music is goin no where, do u guys think that stairway had subliminal messages in it?

Against Miik!
08-23-2004, 09:47 PM
oh i got a question for you guys out there, since the topic of "stealing" music is goin no where, do u guys think that stairway had subliminal messages in it?

Wow, it has already been provin that it does. So whether you think it or not, its true.

jpj
08-23-2004, 09:48 PM
no i heard it doesn't have any meaning. it's poetic sounding stuff that was written in 15 minutes

NsD
08-23-2004, 09:48 PM
Wow, it has already been provin that it does. So whether you think it or not, its true.

hmm... i thought that it was said that it didn't. well i have read sites stating both sides. even one that had a recording of it played forward and back.

jpj
08-23-2004, 09:49 PM
i think the only people that will ever know are the ones who wrote it and don't think they'll tell

Against Miik!
08-23-2004, 09:50 PM
http://www2.memlane.com/jmilner/stairwaybackwards.htm

Stairway and a few other songs with "subliminal messages". It doesn't seem like a coincidence, consider it is a pretty large consecutive part of the song.

RockAndRoll
08-23-2004, 09:50 PM
oh i got a question for you guys out there, since the topic of "stealing" music is goin no where, do u guys think that stairway had subliminal messages in it?
hell no.

NsD
08-23-2004, 09:51 PM
http://www2.memlane.com/jmilner/stairwaybackwards.htm

Stairway and a few other songs with "subliminal messages". It doesn't seem like a coincidence, consider it is a pretty large consecutive part of the song.

thats the exact one i heard! i love the britney spears one. yes.

AbsurdTheater
08-23-2004, 09:52 PM
ya i like stuff lik

Kansas
Foreigner
Rainbow
Bad Company
Steve Miller Band
Queen
Mountain
Santana

jpj
08-23-2004, 09:52 PM
i couldn't understand a **** thing they were sayin, so i still don't know
oh i didn't see where it told you what they were sayin

NsD
08-23-2004, 09:53 PM
if u put the backwards lyrics up too... you'll hear it.

Woodstock
08-23-2004, 09:53 PM
did you see the bacwards "lyrics"

BillCosby
08-23-2004, 09:54 PM
i hate punk. its like a crappy rip off of pop music.


I'm not a fan of most punk, but that is one of the stupidest statements I've ever heard.

NsD
08-23-2004, 09:55 PM
I'm not a fan of most punk, but that is one of the stupidest statements I've ever heard.

hm thats awesome. good for you :thumb:

Badmoon
08-23-2004, 09:58 PM
No, it seriously is. Maybe Pop-Punk, but Punk? God no, that can not be more wrong.

jpj
08-23-2004, 09:58 PM
what the hell is the funny farm in that pink floyd one

Badmoon
08-23-2004, 09:59 PM
hell no.

That's a pretty bold statement. I'd lean on the yes, being that Jimmy Page and the other members supposebly have interest with the occult, and all that other satanic stuff.

RockAndRoll
08-23-2004, 10:00 PM
http://www2.memlane.com/jmilner/stairwaybackwards.htm

Stairway and a few other songs with "subliminal messages". It doesn't seem like a coincidence, consider it is a pretty large consecutive part of the song.
For starters I don't beleive messages in a song if you play them backwards constitutes subliminal messages as I doubt anyone's mind does that. Secondly, I couldn't even decipher any of that until i looked at the backwards lyrics and figured it out from there. Furthermore If anything those lyrics condemn satan. Lastly it's less than thirty seconds of sound that sort of sounds like something, with sentences that make little (if any) sense.

lunch998
08-23-2004, 10:01 PM
They(Zeppelin) got sued for what they did. Obviously someone cared.

NsD
08-23-2004, 10:01 PM
oh man. how could you think they were satanic... they were just on drugs.

Woodstock
08-23-2004, 10:01 PM
Yeah, especially after recording their most famous album in a haunted mansion.

NsD
08-23-2004, 10:02 PM
For starters I don't beleive messages in a song if you play them backwards constitutes subliminal messages as I doubt anyone's mind does that. Secondly, I couldn't even decipher any of that until i looked at the backwards lyrics and figured it out from there. Furthermore If anything those lyrics condemn satan. Lastly it's less than thirty seconds of sound that sort of sounds like something, with sentences that make little (if any) sense.

thats a good point. i couldn't understand them until i read the lyrics. i did hear the 666 though. i thought that was hilarious.

Against Miik!
08-23-2004, 10:03 PM
For starters I don't beleive messages in a song if you play them backwards constitutes subliminal messages as I doubt anyone's mind does that. Secondly, I couldn't even decipher any of that until i looked at the backwards lyrics and figured it out from there. Furthermore If anything those lyrics condemn satan. Lastly it's less than thirty seconds of sound that sort of sounds like something, with sentences that make little (if any) sense.

I didn't say they were good subliminal messages, I just said they were there.

jpj
08-23-2004, 10:03 PM
They(Zeppelin) got sued for what they did. Obviously someone cared.
what the hell did they get sued for?

Woodstock
08-23-2004, 10:04 PM
Stealing music on Whole Lotta Love.

NsD
08-23-2004, 10:05 PM
lol that was like said 30 minutes ago.

jpj
08-23-2004, 10:05 PM
i thought you were talkin about the subliminal message thing...my bad

NsD
08-23-2004, 10:06 PM
i thought we were too.

RockAndRoll
08-23-2004, 10:07 PM
I didn't say they were good subliminal messages, I just said they were there.
But those are all reasons that go against it.

Badmoon
08-23-2004, 10:15 PM
oh man. how could you think they were satanic... they were just on drugs.

A good portion of us here are on drugs. But I'm not satanic, nor am I going to put satanic messages on my albums.

jpj
08-23-2004, 10:18 PM
im not on drugs, but i probably should be

RockAndRoll
08-23-2004, 10:18 PM
A good portion of us here are on drugs. But I'm not satanic, nor am I going to put satanic messages on my albums.
I think if they were intended subliminal messages (and indeed if they weren't) Page at least had a good laugh over it.

NsD
08-23-2004, 10:18 PM
im not on drugs, but i probably should be

agreed.

themightyquinn23
08-23-2004, 10:19 PM
A good portion of us here are on drugs. But I'm not satanic, nor am I going to put satanic messages on my albums.
I bet you don't take as many drugs as Zeppelin did.

NsD
08-23-2004, 10:20 PM
I think if they were intended subliminal messages (and indeed if they weren't) Page at least had a good laugh over it.

i know. but really u can't call them subliminal messages. but if ur goin to do something like that, the least u can do is have fun with it :D

NsD
08-23-2004, 10:22 PM
I bet you don't take as many drugs as Zeppelin did.

lol no. i wasn't alive in the 70's to take as much as they did. look, all i'm saying is that possibly, and if, they did put messages in their songs, it was probably because of all the drugs they did to distort their vision of reality and basic understanding of the law. thats it. lol there. we can drop it.

Badmoon
08-23-2004, 10:23 PM
I bet you don't take as many drugs as Zeppelin did.

Is it really relevant? The point was made and I don't think there is anything argument.

NsD
08-23-2004, 10:24 PM
sigh, someone should come up with a new topic.

jpj
08-23-2004, 10:25 PM
anyone heard the new yardbirds cd

jpj
08-23-2004, 10:27 PM
anyone heard the new rush cd? the one that's all covers

themightyquinn23
08-23-2004, 10:27 PM
sigh, someone should come up with a new topic.
I tried, and was scolded by all the Zeppelin fans in here.

NsD
08-23-2004, 10:27 PM
anyone heard the new rush cd? the one that's all covers

yeah. i love their cover of the seeker by the who. anyone see their 30th anniversary concert?

jpj
08-23-2004, 10:28 PM
refresh my memory. what was this topic about?

jpj
08-23-2004, 10:28 PM
no, they came to my town and i can't believe i didn't go

NsD
08-23-2004, 10:28 PM
rush. i think.

RockAndRoll
08-23-2004, 10:29 PM
anyone heard the new rush cd? the one that's all covers
I've heard two of the songs, and they weren't bad but i liked the originals alot more.

NsD
08-23-2004, 10:29 PM
the concert was amazing. neil peart is a drum god.

jpj
08-23-2004, 10:30 PM
rush. i think.
i was referring to the guy above you

NsD
08-23-2004, 10:30 PM
I've heard two of the songs, and they weren't bad but i liked the originals alot more.

yeah the originals are better. i don't know about you guys, but i tend to like the original songs better only because theirs more feeling in those.

themightyquinn23
08-23-2004, 10:30 PM
Zeppelin stealing music

EDIT: to jp

jpj
08-23-2004, 10:31 PM
we did that topic

themightyquinn23
08-23-2004, 10:32 PM
we did that topic
Did I say I was trying to bring it up again?

Paranoidd
08-23-2004, 11:47 PM
A good portion of us here are on drugs. But I'm not satanic, nor am I going to put satanic messages on my albums.

I'm stoned :smoke:

I like how Kerry King put it:

"I don't believe in God, so I don't believe in Satan. But Satan is more fun to write about" - Guitar World, August 2004

Veteran of the psychic wars
08-24-2004, 09:15 AM
Hmmm, by that I assume you mean the only three songs people tend to know about: Reaper, Godzilla, Burnin' (in short hand).

Out of those Godzilla is the best, but I've heard stuff that can bury these. Yeah, I unfortunately have their greatest hits CD, and have heard two of my dad's LPs (Agents of Fortune and Fires of Unknown Origins) which both were okay.

But I must say that their pre-Reaper stuff kicked extraordinary ***. Cities on Flame, Flaming Telepaths, and Astronomy....oh my god! Especially Astronomy, one of the single greatest rock ballads of all time. Even some of the later seventies stuff was pretty decent that know one knows about (In Thee, Black Blade).

However, I must admit after Albert Bouchard was kicked out, they really started making ****ty music.

Anyway, I don't see whats really great about Don't Fear the Reaper (except that middle heavy section was pretty cool). But BOC does have plenty of hidden gems. Plenty. I plan on getting Secret Treaties as soon as I have CD money again.

You're pretty much spot on. After they kicked Albert out, the worst thing they did was Club Ninja. But that did have 'Perfect Water' on it, which is beautiful. So it wasn't that bad. And I have a rare live bootleg with some Club Ninja material on it, and that stuff kick a*s live! Then they did nothing except tour for a decade, but, they released two studio albums (Heaven Forbid, and Cure Of The Hidden Mirror) with Danny Miranda on bass, and Bobby Rondinelli on drums. Great albums, especially Heaven Forbid.
And they released a live DVD and CD called 'A Long Days Night' which proves they've still got it. And Buck Dharma is better than ever. Amazing guitarist.

Buck's Boogie (live) (http://www.blueoystercult.com/Studio/BOCBucksBoogie.mp3) from the DVD/CD

If you get a chance to see them, go for it. I saw them in June, it was awesome.

guitrguy
08-24-2004, 09:32 AM
I'm stoned :smoke:

I like how Kerry King put it:

"I don't believe in God, so I don't believe in Satan. But Satan is more fun to write about" - Guitar World, August 2004
What about zeppelin, I always hear them being called satanic...I don't hearing anything in their music that leads me to believe that(cept for the backwards stairway to heaven)

Paranoidd
08-24-2004, 09:40 AM
There is some stuff in there, yeah. Even Stairway played forwards has its messages.

I work with born again christians who study this stuff...they've told me the symbolism behind it, and it does make sense what they say. Not that I care, Zeppelin still owns. I trade Zepp bootlegs with one of those guys. He's a cool christian :)

The Minstrel
08-24-2004, 10:43 AM
There is some stuff in there, yeah. Even Stairway played forwards has its messages.

I work with born again christians who study this stuff...they've told me the symbolism behind it, and it does make sense what they say. Not that I care, Zeppelin still owns. I trade Zepp bootlegs with one of those guys. He's a cool christian :)

I'm a christian, but Zeppelin is still my all time favorite band. Yeah they had their messages, but the music still rocks. Jimmy Page was not a satanist, but he was very interested in the occult. He bought a noted satanist's house for whatever reason. It had no stairways in it, to heaven or otherwise. Aside from that, they were nothing more than the greatest band of the age.

AlyssaLovesThe80's
08-24-2004, 10:59 AM
I Have Always Listened To Classic Rock Sence Well I Cant Remeber I Started Listening To It At School And Now All My Friends Love It. :naughty:

Paranoidd
08-24-2004, 11:00 AM
One of them told me he was going to pray for my soul :lol:

Paranoidd
08-24-2004, 11:03 AM
I don't know how popular they are outside of Canada, but does anybody like The Tragically Hip?

Elfie
08-24-2004, 11:03 AM
There's a difference between writing about satanism and believing in it. I dislike how people call the Eagles' satanic because Hotel California, for example. They wrote a fictional piece, that if anything condemns satanism and it bothers that people see certain symbols and immediately brand songs and artists as satanists.

rockeded not rolleded
08-24-2004, 12:37 PM
Looks like I missed some amazing discussions...


Led Zeppelin used some songs from other artists but changed them enough to make people not realize.

I've lost a little respect for them musicly but at the end of the day all that matters is what comes out of the sterio (sp). The fact is they made brilliant music (a lot of it which was 100% original) and that's all that really matters.


On a side note the clasic rock radio station in my city played some Jeff healey. Therfore that makes him classic. Now you can put that in your bong and smoke it, badmoon :) (and the other non believers *shakes fist*).

lunch998
08-24-2004, 01:36 PM
Not trying to start this again, but Zeppelin had a lot of great original songs, but we only mentioned the very few that were "Stolen".

And there is the myth about Led Zeppelin making a deal with the Devil to get their instant sucess. The only one who didn't make the deal was John Paul Jones. People who believe in this use Bonzo dying and Robert Plants Son dying as proof. The lyrics to "Nobodys Fault But Mine" also testify to this rumor.

Paranoidd
08-24-2004, 01:39 PM
Rock, how come you keep getting banned?

rockeded not rolleded
08-24-2004, 01:44 PM
Not trying to start this again, but Zeppelin had a lot of great original songs, but we only mentioned the very few that were "Stolen".

And there is the myth about Led Zeppelin making a deal with the Devil to get their instant sucess. The only one who didn't make the deal was John Paul Jones. People who believe in this use Bonzo dying and Robert Plants Son dying as proof. The lyrics to "Nobodys Fault But Mine" also testify to this rumor.

That didn't happen. Probably just some idiot with nothing better to do making up junk.

I agree with the fact that they had great original songs and the songs that they "stole" they made even better than the originals. Saying "zeppelin stole songs" is like saying Hendrix stole all along the watchtower.

I keep getting banned either for

1. Making threads that are fine but some idiot reports them to the site forum and basicly if anything get reported to the site forum it gets closed and the person gets banned.

2. Just plain spamming.

I'm making an effort to stay out of the pit ;)

lunch998
08-24-2004, 01:48 PM
Yea I don't believe in the rumor either, probably the same losers made it up that think that they have satanic messages in Stairway to Heaven intentionally.

rockeded not rolleded
08-24-2004, 01:55 PM
I think the stairway backwards thign was intentional. Bands like to have mysterys to their music. From songs like whole lotta love, black dog, heartbreaker and such nobody would even consider the possibily of them being satanists. So zeppelin probably decided to mess with some people's minds. If my band ever gets big i'm loading our songs full of weird messages just for fun.

Seafroggys
08-24-2004, 03:20 PM
You're pretty much spot on. After they kicked Albert out, the worst thing they did was Club Ninja. But that did have 'Perfect Water' on it, which is beautiful. So it wasn't that bad. And I have a rare live bootleg with some Club Ninja material on it, and that stuff kick a*s live! Then they did nothing except tour for a decade, but, they released two studio albums (Heaven Forbid, and Cure Of The Hidden Mirror) with Danny Miranda on bass, and Bobby Rondinelli on drums. Great albums, especially Heaven Forbid.
And they released a live DVD and CD called 'A Long Days Night' which proves they've still got it. And Buck Dharma is better than ever. Amazing guitarist.

Buck's Boogie (live) (http://www.blueoystercult.com/Studio/BOCBucksBoogie.mp3) from the DVD/CD

If you get a chance to see them, go for it. I saw them in June, it was awesome.

Er, I heard they were coming to town like in January, but I put that in the back of my mind. Then in March, at school I went to their website to confirm if they were coming to Portland, and they were......one week before...

Argh, I was so **** pissed.

Communication Breakdown
08-24-2004, 03:54 PM
I like Led Zeppelin the best! i agree with the beatles, they aren't hard rock at all!

rockeded not rolleded
08-24-2004, 04:11 PM
Of course the beatles aren't hard rock. What kinda crack pot said they were?

Badmoon
08-24-2004, 04:19 PM
And there is the myth about Led Zeppelin making a deal with the Devil to get their instant sucess. The only one who didn't make the deal was John Paul Jones. People who believe in this use Bonzo dying and Robert Plants Son dying as proof. The lyrics to "Nobodys Fault But Mine" also testify to this rumor.

:lol:

I wouldn't be surprised, because who hasn't been driven in by the devil's spell? Badmoon, the man of God or in some cases Jah

i hate led zeppelin
08-24-2004, 04:21 PM
i think the master of classic rock is still bob dylan...no1 writes songs like bob dylan...no1 else sings like bob dylan either, which is a good thing. but he plays a mean guitar and harmonica and has written some of the most amazing music ever.


Dylan really isnt rock & roll. He is definately more folk.
I can understand saying rock & roll if you consider his music after he went electric and had the band as his backing band. But even with his electric stuff if u listen to the lyrics they are far more down to earth than anything any steriotypical classic rock band like jimi or the doors played.

Badmoon
08-24-2004, 04:24 PM
Dylan really isnt rock & roll. He is definately more folk.

Dylan is Folk Rock. He didn't always have the traditional 3 chord progression, Blues orientated, solo sound. But he took it to Country. Which was how it was originally, in a way.

Communication Breakdown
08-24-2004, 04:54 PM
ah arse, i dunno who said the beatles were hard rock, i just read it somewhere and thought i would comment on it!

RockAndRoll
08-24-2004, 05:01 PM
There is some stuff in there, yeah. Even Stairway played forwards has its messages.
Where?

RockAndRoll
08-24-2004, 05:03 PM
There's a difference between writing about satanism and believing in it. I dislike how people call the Eagles' satanic because Hotel California, for example. They wrote a fictional piece, that if anything condemns satanism and it bothers that people see certain symbols and immediately brand songs and artists as satanists.
I'm pretty sure hotel california's about cocaine is it not?

Broken Arrow
08-24-2004, 05:20 PM
Or mabye it's about a hotel in California?

rockeded not rolleded
08-24-2004, 05:24 PM
I'm pretty sure hotel california's about cocaine is it not?

I thought it was about weed. Meh.

zundelicious
08-24-2004, 06:32 PM
i like peter framptons sound effects

magicbus
08-24-2004, 06:37 PM
Sorry, I've been gone, but I couldn't ask who was the catcher because my mom was next to me in line. I hope it wasn't Morrison, but it was the 60's, there were probably drugs involved, and frankly, Morrison could have sex with anyone and still consider it straight, like Bruce Wayne.

I can't read all the pages, you guys are moving pretty fast, but I'll be back later. We should get a chatroom up, so we don't have to keep jumping back to the thread. ADIOS.

rock not roll once more
08-24-2004, 06:46 PM
i like peter framptons sound effects

Those are awesome. The guitar talky thingy is bitchin'. One of the best live performers ever in my opinon.

rock not roll once more
08-24-2004, 06:46 PM
Sorry, I've been gone, but I couldn't ask who was the catcher because my mom was next to me in line. I hope it wasn't Morrison, but it was the 60's, there were probably drugs involved, and frankly, Morrison could have sex with anyone and still consider it straight, like Bruce Wayne.

I can't read all the pages, you guys are moving pretty fast, but I'll be back later. We should get a chatroom up, so we don't have to keep jumping back to the thread. ADIOS.
That would be bitchin.

zundelicious
08-24-2004, 06:52 PM
u no how to make one of those framton effects??

Badmoon
08-24-2004, 06:53 PM
If you say "bitchin'" one more time, I will kick you in the spleen.

rock not roll once more
08-24-2004, 06:54 PM
If you say "bitchin'" one more time, I will kick you in the spleen.

:lol: sorry sir.

zundelicious
08-24-2004, 06:54 PM
just open up an old amp and put tubing on the bak of the speaker part

Elfie
08-24-2004, 06:56 PM
I'm pretty sure hotel california's about cocaine is it not?

The Church of Satan, founded in 1969 ("we haven't had that spirit since 1969"), was located in an old hotel on California Street, LA. Interesting, in my view.

zundelicious
08-24-2004, 06:58 PM
**** im listenin to allman brothers a decade of hits 69-70. its the sh*t

rock not roll once more
08-24-2004, 06:59 PM
**** im listenin to allman brothers a decade of hits 69-70. its the sh*t
I'd expect that it would be. They>all.

zundelicious
08-24-2004, 06:59 PM
oops i mean 69-79

zundelicious
08-24-2004, 07:01 PM
whipping post is fantastic

rock not roll once more
08-24-2004, 07:03 PM
oops i mean 69-79

well that would be even better, hits off of. The Allman Brothers band, Idlewild south,At the fillmore east,Eat a peach, Brothers and Sssters, Wipe the windows and Enlightened rogues methinks.

I like their newer sutff a lot too but there's no denything that was their best time for music.

RockOn34786
08-24-2004, 07:10 PM
yo jet sounds classic
they sound like 70's and 80's rock

owlandtree
08-24-2004, 07:13 PM
Here's another dirty thirty on the flipside buhbuhbuhbabyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!
It doesm't have to be old to be a classic.

rock not roll once more
08-24-2004, 07:15 PM
yo jet sounds classic
they sound like 70's and 80's rock

Yeah they do. Just about 10 times worse than actual music from the 70s and 80s. Same sort of idea exept that jet has no talent and have a really generic sound whereas music from that time we good and original. If I want a repetitive 3 chord band i'll listen to some ac/dc. At least they have talent.

rock not roll once more
08-24-2004, 07:26 PM
well that would be even better, hits off of. The Allman Brothers band, Idlewild south,At the fillmore east,Eat a peach, Brothers and Sssters, Wipe the windows and Enlightened rogues methinks.

I like their newer sutff a lot too but there's no denything that was their best time for music.

I really should read my posts before I make them. So many typos :(

zundelicious
08-24-2004, 07:28 PM
any1 here an elo fan

zundelicious
08-24-2004, 07:31 PM
this is the first time ive really heard allman brothers, my brother just got the cd but im hooked

themightyquinn23
08-24-2004, 07:52 PM
*sigh*

Good for you. Now let's stop talking about the Allmans.

magicbus
08-24-2004, 08:50 PM
I picked up Yessongs. Didn't know it was live, but its still awesome, nonetheless.

RockAndRoll
08-24-2004, 09:52 PM
Or mabye it's about a hotel in California?
that would be one ****ed up hotel.

The Church of Satan, founded in 1969 ("we haven't had that spirit since 1969"), was located in an old hotel on California Street, LA. Interesting, in my view. interesting indeed.

Badmoon
08-24-2004, 09:52 PM
Yeah they do. Just about 10 times worse than actual music from the 70s and 80s. Same sort of idea exept that jet has no talent and have a really generic sound whereas music from that time we good and original. If I want a repetitive 3 chord band i'll listen to some ac/dc. At least they have talent.

Speaking of The Allman Brothers, I just got my Gov't Mule shirt in the mail. :cool:

And I'm about to finish Mule's recorded catelogue. :)

Here's the shirt...

http://stores.musictoday.com/store/product.asp?dept%5Fid=707&pf%5Fid=GMCT30&band%5Fid=322&sfid=2

rock not rollin'
08-24-2004, 10:42 PM
^Awesome! Shame 1 in 500 people you know (probably 1000 since you're 14) will know who they are. That shirt makes me want to find some means of buying things over the internet ;) (my dad thinks the world is out to steal his credit card number).

RockAndRoll
08-24-2004, 10:48 PM
badmoon is 14? I saw him as slightly older for whatever reason. are you turning 15 this year or next?

rock not rollin'
08-24-2004, 10:53 PM
badmoon is 14? I saw him as slightly older for whatever reason. are you turning 15 this year or next?
I think he is... He certainly doesn't act like it. He knows more about classic rock than my dad (not my much, he was a DJ in the golden age of radio ;) ).

RockAndRoll
08-24-2004, 11:07 PM
I think he is... He certainly doesn't act like it. He knows more about classic rock than my dad (not my much, he was a DJ in the golden age of radio ;) ).
I would've said 15 at least.

beatle eating bat dog
08-25-2004, 02:32 AM
what is this satanic zeppelin non sence? im sure at least three quarters of you have heard d'yer m'aker. listen to that and tel me that led zeppelin is satanic.

Led Zeppelin rule!!!
08-25-2004, 04:38 AM
d'yer m'aker is a great song, i think all this led zep satanic stuff is crap. Jimmy Page was not a member of the occult! Just cos he bought a mansion previously owned by Crowley..

Badmoon
08-25-2004, 08:05 AM
:lol:

I'm turning 15 in October.

Paranoidd
08-25-2004, 08:43 AM
what is this satanic zeppelin non sence? im sure at least three quarters of you have heard d'yer m'aker. listen to that and tel me that led zeppelin is satanic.

Do your research before you dismiss things as non sence (whatever that is).

Blackdog8901
08-25-2004, 09:43 AM
I'm turning 15 in October.

Same here :thumb:

Broken Arrow
08-25-2004, 10:00 AM
Am turning 15!! :D ..........Next June :upset:

thelizardkingcc
08-25-2004, 10:08 AM
Im 19, buncha youngsters.

Paranoidd
08-25-2004, 10:43 AM
<--- 21

Jeez I feel old.

guitrguy
08-25-2004, 10:44 AM
17 here...I'm turning 18 in 3 months.
Getting back on topic here, has anyone here seen Boston live, because I'm about to go see them and I want to know what to expect

Humor99
08-25-2004, 10:46 AM
17 a few days ago.

rock not rollin'
08-25-2004, 02:09 PM
Jimmy Page was not satanic. He was just having some fun messing with people's minds... or was he? :amaze:

Either way he's a hell of a guitarist.

RockAndRoll
08-25-2004, 02:47 PM
Do your research before you dismiss things as non sence (whatever that is).
why does everybody think sense is spelt with a c anyways?
I don't think page is satanic though.

rock not rolll
08-25-2004, 03:00 PM
why does everybody think sense is spelt with a c anyways?
.

It's the internet.

mattlewis53
08-25-2004, 03:05 PM
I don't give 2 sh!ts if he was satanic because he was amazing at guitar.

RockAndRoll
08-25-2004, 03:25 PM
It's the internet.
I know it's just weird, I see it all the time.

Led Zeppelin rule!!!
08-25-2004, 03:36 PM
im going to see a Led Zeppelin tribute band next month (Whole lotta Led) god im so excited

Broken Arrow
08-25-2004, 04:44 PM
Before the Deep Purple concert last Saturday there was a cover band playing and they played Whole lotta love pretty close to prefection same with Voodoo child

Paranoidd
08-25-2004, 04:58 PM
Before the Deep Purple concert last Saturday there was a cover band playing and they played Whole lotta love pretty close to prefection same with Voodoo child

:lol:

That was Joe Satriani!

Broken Arrow
08-25-2004, 05:13 PM
No I meant before that and before Thin Lizzy

Do take me for a fool? I have 3 Satriani Albums I know who he is.

PinkFloyd
08-25-2004, 05:48 PM
16!

Against Miik!
08-25-2004, 06:00 PM
Countdown to Allmans...3 days.

Paranoidd
08-25-2004, 06:47 PM
No I meant before that and before Thin Lizzy

Do take me for a fool? I have 3 Satriani Albums I know who he is.

Where did you see this show?

Badmoon
08-25-2004, 06:55 PM
Countdown to Allmans...3 days.

You lucky son bitch. You get to see Warren Haynes, Derek Trucks, Greg Allman, Oteil Burbridge, ect... I'm also expecting a review.

Against Miik!
08-25-2004, 06:57 PM
I'm still gonna try and get a camera in there, but that may be tough work. It's under a tent, so maybe they will have looser policies.

rock not rolll
08-25-2004, 07:50 PM
I wish I could go to more concerts. My parents always say they are a waste of money or that i'll get mugged at them :rolleyes:

Paranoidd
08-25-2004, 07:54 PM
Move out!

rock not rolll
08-25-2004, 07:55 PM
Move out!

Naw, i'm going to leach off of them until college ;)

Paranoidd
08-25-2004, 08:00 PM
That was my plan too.

I'm 21 still not in school... :(

Against Miik!
08-25-2004, 08:03 PM
That was my plan too.

I'm 21 still not in school... :(


Haha i'm 16 and i'm closer to leaving home than you :lol: . But you can by beer :upset:

rock not rolll
08-25-2004, 08:04 PM
Meh you're doing good considering your ulcer and many other things.

Way to go :thumb:

PinkFloyd
08-25-2004, 08:05 PM
:p:p:p

rock not rolll
08-25-2004, 08:06 PM
Now, on topic, go!

Jeff Healey band rocks.

Against Miik!
08-25-2004, 08:06 PM
Don't listen to them, recomend me song.

rock not rolll
08-25-2004, 08:09 PM
Don't listen to them, recomend me song.

Full Circle. Go, now.

Against Miik!
08-25-2004, 08:11 PM
I only found one song on WMP.

It says: See the Light- Blue Jean Blues: Jeff Healey Band

rock not rolll
08-25-2004, 08:12 PM
Listen to it then.

edit: uhh both I guess. Or just one, take your pick.

themightyquinn23
08-25-2004, 08:14 PM
^^How many accounts have you had banned?

Against Miik!
08-25-2004, 08:14 PM
Well I did, and i'm listening to it again. This particular recording has kind of a SRV feel.

rock not rolll
08-25-2004, 08:14 PM
^^How many accounts have you had banned?

More than I would care to count.

rock not rolll
08-25-2004, 08:15 PM
Well I did, and i'm listening to it again. This particular recording has kind of a SRV feel.

Right then. If you have the chance get any of his albums (Feel This is my favorite), you wont be disapointed.

magicbus
08-25-2004, 08:17 PM
I also thought Badmoon was older when I joined this thread, probably due to the avatars. I'm 17, the rest of you guys are really young :amaze:

I'm seeing The Surrogate Band on friday. Hope they're good.

Against Miik!
08-25-2004, 08:25 PM
I'm 16 so i'm not to young compared to you. How old is badmoon?

Badmoon
08-25-2004, 08:27 PM
Forty

Paranoidd
08-25-2004, 08:31 PM
Weee I feel young again.

Badmoon
08-25-2004, 09:01 PM
fourteen

Lithium2112
08-25-2004, 09:10 PM
man, if rush is coming to your town for ****s sake go to it, that wwas the best concert i've ever been to.

Paranoidd
08-26-2004, 12:09 AM
^^^

Ditto.

Broken Arrow
08-26-2004, 08:27 AM
So I guess you didnt see Deep Purple they put on a Great show!

Tom Cochrane is coming to my small town of 6000 people and tickets are 5$.