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The JoZ
02-09-2004, 01:00 PM
This seems to be another one of those bands that is either loved, or hated. The three brothers, Sam, Pete, and Joe, got so much national attention with the success of "The Red" that they went from unknown to superstars quite fast. Alot of people base their like or dislike, once again, it seems, solely on the airplay that "The Red" got..which, in some cases, was too much....and in some...was not enough

Pete - Guitar, Lead Vocals
Joe - Bass, backing vocals
Sam - Drums

The Tracks

Family System (4:17)
Opens somewhat ominously with guitar and a haunting sort of sustained "ooh" from Pete. Rips wide open into the main riff, which is at first a single note, goes into chords with the whole band. Pete establishes his habit of adding unusual semi-harmonics early with this song. One of the strongest aspects of Chevelle, in my opinion, is Pete's singing. It's clear, and it's powerful. There really isn't much of a chorus section in this song, but rather a few verses, a bridge, a second sort of bridge which returns to the intro, then the main riffs are repeated a few times, ending with the opening ominous riff. Good way to open up the album

Comfortable Liar (3:43)
Opens with a long pickscrape before jumping into the verse. Pickscrapes are added every now and then for effect...again, no *real* chorus here...they change the riff up right about the 2 minute mark...it gets 'chuggier'...ah, now here's the chorus...sort of...there is a mini bass solo after this repeat the original riff a few times, repeat the heavier riff a few times, end on a pickscrape and volume swell down.

Send the Pain Below (4:12)
The second single, was almost played as much as The Red...opens up on a decidedly 'happier' note than the first two tracks, with some interesting harmonics thrown in. Verse is played clean, chorus is distorted...the same riff that opened it up, minus harmonics. After second chorus, there is a breakdown section..starts clean, breaks quickly into distortion...end on another chorus or two...Joe adds some backing vocals in the final choruses...it's much more noticable on their DVD...but he's there, he sounds slightly higher than Pete does...

Closure (4:11)
The third single...opens cleanly...and is played clean for most of the time...hey, you can actually hear the bass on this one...well...ok, you can hear it on most of their songs, but...I don't have much to say...This track is much mellower than their other songs, with the exception of last verse/chorus and the breakdown at the end...which I really like. It's nothing like a hardcore or death metal band's breakdown, but it's still faster, and loud. Joe adds vocals to this one as well.

The Red (3:58)
The song that made them who they are. I shouldn't really have to talk much about this one...it's in 6/8, it's pretty slow...there is what passes, very minimally as a guitar solo in this one....it's really just a bunch of G's over and over, but it gets changed up a bit, especially live...add in his 'trademark' harmonic...repeat chorus...you all know how this goes...I hope

Wonder What's Next (4:10)
Arguably their hardest song on this album...guitars get overdubbed a bit...lots of harmonics and weird things going on though...sounds very...interesting....break back into the main riff...verse riff is semi-machine-gun-like...it's nothing like death metal, but it's decently fast...Pete screams alot more on this song...and then he actually sings really low and fast...I can't understand him under the guitar...I think the bass gets some distortion later in the song actually, but I'm not sure...they do alot of repeating in this song towards the end...the end is quite heavy, with doubled guitars, I think some bass distortion, and Joe adds vocals...

Don't Fake This (3:39)
Opens clean, a la STPB...breaks into distortion faster though...this song actually sounds like Send a little bit too...at least at first...gets harder at 1:00...then back to original distorted riff...a faster, punk-like riff breaks in midway through...the "chorus" is just Pete screaming "DONN'T...FAKE THIS!" over that heavy riff. Another cycle of repetition before ending on a slightly modified riff

Forfeit (3:59)
Might be my favorite song on here. Opens with just guitar, and a heavily palm muted riff...no real chorus in this song either, but there is a riff where the chorus would be, which I like. Repeat verse/"chorus" structure...although Pete does more screaming of "FORFEIT!" in this "chorus"...more of the harmonics of his, which sound particularly evil on this song...again...not death/black metal evil, but still cool. A bridge section, which is just him saying "step up" and switching between left and right channels with a riff that reminds me of the Slipknot sound...a little...another "chorus" or so, and end

Grab Thy Hand (4:13)
Starts right off with a decently heavy riff, moves into something...it's distorted, but higher. This song is more melodic than most of their other songs...this song is a bit haunting too...the chord progression, the reverb on the vocals...etc...some mini machine-gunning in this song too...a bridge section at 3:00 mark...with slightly modified riffs with Pete screaming over it all..

An Evening With El Diablo (5:58)
Opens with only bass, then drums...I love this riff. It's so simple, but...effective. There's an echo effect on some of the vocal parts...break in the guitars for a moment on heavy distortion...then it goes clean, with that bass riff still penetrating it...a (long) verse...a chorus...Pete screams some of it at first, then just sings...very powerful here...guitar plays the bass riff in the next verse...another chorus...or three...a second guitar line comes in around the 4:30 mark or so...I like the harmonizing...this song actually ends at 5:40...so the next 18 seconds are blank...?

One Lonely Visitor (4:06)
Opens with just Pete singing, and he's playing...well, I don't want to say acoustic guitar, but maybe it is...I think Joe is singing this one too, because the vocals sound doubled and there's some reverb on it too...this is an almost total departure from the rest of the album...no bass, no drums...just singing, and what appears to be acoustic guitar(s). Very moody, but calming as well. A great way to end the album

Likes:
Simple, but effective, riffs
Pete's singing style
Sam's drumming
Joe's backup vocals
Interesting Harmonic work

Dislikes:
Lack of solos
Insane repetition

Overall:
Alright...so they don't solo, and they repeat things a bit too much...what else is new with mainstream music, right? Meh. They have great riffs that are easy to get into...and they wrote their songs with plenty of places for a solo, but they are nonexistant. Yeah, solos don't make the music, but they don't usually hurt them either. Looking past that, Pete's singing is amazing. He has power, clarity, and intensity, and screams pretty well too. Sam's drumming is great, with good use of double bass, and very nice fills. I didn't hate the bass on the album, but it didn't really stick out either...other than Joe being able to harmonize vocally with Pete. The harmonics utilized by Pete gave many songs a different, edgier feel to them. If he's not going to solo...use the harmonics more often. I give this a 3/5...I really think it's something everyone should look into...even if you have to skip The Red when you play it.

br3ad_man
02-10-2004, 03:05 AM
I like your review, very objective.

I have WWN and I think it's a great album, but I hate "The Red". The riff from Family System is awesome I think. The guitars have a wicked crunch.

Petes vocals are the best thing about Chevelle, IMO. Bash me if you like, but I think they sound a bit similar to Maynard's.

The JoZ
02-10-2004, 12:27 PM
I like your review, very objective.

I have WWN and I think it's a great album, but I hate "The Red". The riff from Family System is awesome I think. The guitars have a wicked crunch.

Petes vocals are the best thing about Chevelle, IMO. Bash me if you like, but I think they sound a bit similar to Maynard's.


Alot of people have compared him to Maynard, actually...and I think that the intensity, and the power, that Pete has is very close to Maynard...

Guitar Symphony
02-10-2004, 04:35 PM
Alot of people have compared him to Maynard, actually...and I think that the intensity, and the power, that Pete has is very close to Maynard...


Whoever these "people" are they are morons. Maynard can not be matched.

the decline
02-10-2004, 04:37 PM
chevelle is crap

Loverman519
02-10-2004, 04:55 PM
^ no, they arent

great band...great album....seriously, the red and send the pain are imo the weakest tracks on the album. maybe you should give em a shot...

i love their first album too, "point #1"....a lot different from this cd, a little more rawer, but its good stuff.

br3ad_man
02-12-2004, 12:20 AM
chevelle is crap

Gee, that was deep :rolleyes:

Zappa
02-12-2004, 06:03 PM
I like "Point #1" a lot, but this one doesn't do it for me. 2/5 stars.

natheo1285
02-12-2004, 08:32 PM
my favorite song off of this album is forfeit

with point #1 it was blank earth; i think that's my favorite from anything they've done

send the pain below shouldn't have been the second single

JohnTheFisherman
04-15-2004, 07:08 PM
All the album is good, except for the three singles which happen to be the worst songs on the album by far.

Record companies are just dumb really. They should have released Wonder What's Next as a single, its the best song on the album by far.

The JoZ
04-16-2004, 06:56 PM
Yeah, there seems to be a trend of releasing weak songs as radio singles...

Evanescence did it...Going Under, Bring Me To Life are incredibly weak compared to their other stuff...and the radio version of My Immortal is not as good as the album version

Chevelle Did it too...The Red is good, but got played to death...Closure I like alot, but it too gets played to death. Why not Family System? Or Comfortable Liar? Or Forfeit? Those songs kick the sh*t out of their singles

Very few bands have good singles out...Memento's done it, Tool does it, etc.

Thanks for bringing back my review, I guess. Yes, I am the same person who wrote it :thumb:

juztyn_bass
04-16-2004, 09:10 PM
Yea this is definitely one of my favorite cd's... I'm not into the numetal thing but I like Chevelle alot... Grab Thy Hand or An Evening With El Diablo are probably my favorite songs off the album. By the way I found this bit of info from pushmeaway.com (LP fan site), I thought it was pretty funny:
Chevelle
This is not a direct quote but with the help of Jinxx it is pretty close. Chevelle opened for Adema at the Birch Hill, NJ this year (2002) and Joe Loeffler saw Sal's linkin park tattoos. (Sal is on the Fan Tattoo pg) He then made a comment similar to "Is that Linkin Park on your arm? Who's on your other arm, n*sync?" Needless to say the guy was an asshole.
And Im introducting myself to the forums also... I've read them for several months, just never bothered to sign up... I'm a bass player (obviously from my name), been playin for a few months so I'm fairly new.

br3ad_man
04-17-2004, 12:37 AM
^^^ lol, nice first or second post.

I dunno why they wouldn't do Family System or Comfortable Liar. Send The Pain Below was a decent choice IMO though.

oh, and whats with the other username Nazi Bassist?

The JoZ
04-17-2004, 11:26 AM
Nazi Bassist was created when this account got banned...

LightRaven unbanned me the other day because MX made me a tab mod :thumb:

iliketoplaydrums10111
04-17-2004, 12:40 PM
Grab Thy Hand is a great song, along with Family System, and Comfortable liar

rpf289
04-23-2004, 09:12 PM
a very in depth review

Xile
06-07-2004, 01:42 PM
My first post ^_^

Chevelle for me at first sucked...i hated them...but it was becuase of the song the red....once i heard the rest of the album i couldent stop listening to them...after i way overplayed WWN i was egar to find more about them and if they had any more cd's before or after this one....well i was in luck becuase they do...and im sure everyone knows its called Point #1...amazing cd and again i listened to it too much!! I still do listen to those cd's but not as much because i have not nesicarly worn them out......becuase they are still good if i hear them...But just more of....hmmm..*thinks*....i dont know the word....BUT anyway i cant wait for there new cd called May of Red to come out its gonna be awsome!! they said they did it in A sharp and its gonna be heavy like a mofo! the anticipation is crazy over here i dont know about you!

i give both albums chevelle has realsed a 2 tumbs up :thumb: :thumb:

5/5due to the fact they are AMAZING! and they singer is Crazy Awsome!



-Xile-

cbmartinez
06-07-2004, 02:40 PM
Yes, this album was simply brilliant. Even critics gave it a 4 1/2 out of 5. I give it about the same. Chevelle is the most amazing nu-metal/hard rock bands out there. I wanted to review this album so bad.

Mozzletoffed
07-24-2004, 09:47 AM
One of the best reviews I've seen in awhile..Chevelles new album comes out sept 27 2004. It should kick..someone should review point number 1.

br3ad_man
07-24-2004, 06:35 PM
I downloaded Point #1 the other day. It's great.

Theo
07-24-2004, 07:04 PM
Chevelle remind me of Muse. Muse = Radiohead ripoffs, Chevelle = Tool ripoffs.

God, modern music needs originality as bad as diversity.

mexicanfloydian
07-24-2004, 07:13 PM
I got tired of this album really fast. I give it a 2/5 because it gets old fast.

TranquilMayhem
08-08-2004, 11:28 PM
Chevelle is a great band, i think they deserve a 4.5/5 as well for both albums, they were emotional, lyrically impacting for some, and very powerful.......Oh n am i the only one who knows that Chevelle is Christian band.......cuz they are a powerhouse in both mainstream and Christian music......lol and yea i think he kinda sounds like Maynard too, not too closely related, but the relation is there

Kiedisfan69
08-09-2004, 02:02 AM
I listened to this CD for about 2 months and got sick of most of it. It's still ok though.

br3ad_man
08-09-2004, 03:25 AM
Chevelle is a great band, i think they deserve a 4.5/5 as well for both albums, they were emotional, lyrically impacting for some, and very powerful.......Oh n am i the only one who knows that Chevelle is Christian band.......cuz they are a powerhouse in both mainstream and Christian music......lol and yea i think he kinda sounds like Maynard too, not too closely related, but the relation is there
I heard that the christian thing was only something they did to get publicity. If they really are christian though, even better.

Zmev
08-09-2004, 10:28 AM
Pretty cool cd, got it at best buy when it was like 8 :p

Family system is a cool song, so is wonder whats next and a night with el diablo

cbmartinez
08-09-2004, 11:12 AM
I heard that the christian thing was only something they did to get publicity. If they really are christian though, even better.

I might have said this in the thread already, but Chevelle are not Christian. Their first CD was released on Squint Entertainment which I believe is a Christian label. I believe this is the only record label they could get a deal with, but they are not a Christian.

The JoZ
08-09-2004, 12:18 PM
That doesn't mean they aren't Christian, it just means they aren't making 'Christian' music

Who cares? Either you like it, or you don't. I like the music, regardless of their beliefs

cbmartinez
08-09-2004, 12:27 PM
I meant Christian music. They most likely are Christian.

screamo_rocks_101
08-13-2004, 05:41 PM
yeah i think most likely they are christians, i mean look at some of the stuff they sing about. Anywho, chevelle is a pretty good band. I didnt really like point #1 all that much, but this one im satisfied with. Who cares if theyre mainstream, just because a bands mainstream or popular doesnt mean you cant like them, seems to me now days that people tend to just forget about the popular bands and try to find something else, but when that band goes popular, they dont like them any more, sounds kinda stupid doesnt it?

Shadows
08-14-2004, 07:47 PM
I strongly dislike Chevelle. I find their music and lyrics very repetitve and just bland altogether. I think Send The Pain Below is the worst lyrical song ever created by man. The only thing I like about about this band is the intro riff to Family System. Other then that, they need a serious creativity lesson.

On a lighter note, this was a very in-depth review. Great job.

Amenta
08-14-2004, 08:53 PM
I knew they are a christian band but it doesnt come out at all in Wonder What's Next. I love Chevelle and I was happy when they got famous, but like y'all said, they got famous for crappy songs, but oh well hopefully people looked into the badn and found out how amazing they are. Awesome review by the way.

anti_errorist
08-22-2004, 08:54 PM
Chevelle is a Christain Crossover band... Christians who play secular music, just nothing evil/blasphemous etc...

And it's very obvious that Peet bases his vocal style around Maynard

r_whitcomb
08-22-2004, 09:03 PM
Chevelle remind me of Muse. Muse = Radiohead ripoffs, Chevelle = Tool ripoffs.

God, modern music needs originality as bad as diversity.

you idiot, they are not tool ripoffs, the only thing that makes them sound like tool are his vocals which employ some aspects of maynards style but he is different, you cant compare the guitar work at all to tool. he is not as good a singer as maynard but he does sound like him at times, if you had heard all their stuff you would know this.

r_whitcomb
08-22-2004, 09:04 PM
by the way that was an excellent review, one of the best i have seen on here along with the nine inch nails dvd review

JohnDeere0013
09-03-2004, 08:44 AM
I like this CD alot, i know alot of you have stated that you dont think that send the pain below is a good song, personally, i dont think it should have been their second single, but i think you need to have the song on the CD in order for the whole CD to flow. Without it i dont think the CD would be complete. I loved "The Red" when it was released, and that is what made me buy the CD, but after months of overplay i just sorta got sick of it, but again, its a song that if it wasnt on the album, i dont think it would be the same. I really liked family system and wonder whats next, also grab thy hand is an awesome song, overall, out of 10, i think i would give this album a 8.5/10. I am looking forward to the newest CD to be released with the awesome new single Witamin R(leading us along) hopefully this song is not overplayed as much as the red was, but it looks like it is heading in that direction, but for now its an amazing song. And i dont know if anyone has heard the daredevil soundtrack, but they had an awesome song on that album as well, "until your reformed" was the name of it, if you ever get a chance to listen, do, it is a brilliant song.

The JoZ
09-03-2004, 09:58 AM
I personally can't wait for new Chevelle. I have no idea wtf he was thinking..."Vitamin R"? Why not just call it "Leading Us Along"?

I like it though. Actually, I could stand to see this one overplayed as opposed to The Red or STPB.

JohnDeere0013
09-03-2004, 10:09 AM
They obviously had some sort of reason for naming it what they did, otherwise they wouldnt have named it that...maybe something that had happened to one of them, or something along the sort.

cbmartinez
09-03-2004, 10:11 AM
I heard "The Clincher" off the Madden 2005 soundtrack. Sounds great. :thumb:

r_whitcomb
09-25-2004, 08:20 AM
I personally can't wait for new Chevelle. I have no idea wtf he was thinking..."Vitamin R"? Why not just call it "Leading Us Along"?

you dont get what the song is about, dont criticise what you dont understand

Theo
09-25-2004, 09:29 AM
you idiot, they are not tool ripoffs, the only thing that makes them sound like tool are his vocals which employ some aspects of maynards style but he is different, you cant compare the guitar work at all to tool. he is not as good a singer as maynard but he does sound like him at times, if you had heard all their stuff you would know this.

You need to chill the fukc out, Chevelle fanboy. Godsmack's guitar work sounds nothing like AIC's, but they are still AIC ripoffs. Why? Because of the VOCALS.

cbmartinez
09-25-2004, 10:15 AM
Who the **** cares if the vocals sound the same? Chevelle are obviously very influenced by Tool. Every band incorporates the sound of another, that's what the word influence means. Pete loves what Maynard has done with his emotional vocal style and wants to put that same emotion into Chevelle. And he does it damn well may I add.

Dancin' Man
09-25-2004, 10:25 AM
Pretty cool cd, got it at best buy when it was like 8 :p

Same here. I hadn't actually heard "The Red" yet and bought it anyway. Same thing with Linkin Park's Hybrid Theory. I like this album. Probably my favorite nu-metal act. Pete's voice is great. I prefer it to Maynards because it just seems a little more edgey.

The JoZ
09-25-2004, 01:46 PM
You need to chill the fukc out, Chevelle fanboy. Godsmack's guitar work sounds nothing like AIC's, but they are still AIC ripoffs. Why? Because of the VOCALS.

No.

Just like Chevelle does not rip off Tool with a similar vocal style, Godsmack does not rip off AIC with a similar vocal style.

Theo
09-25-2004, 02:26 PM
No.

Just like Chevelle does not rip off Tool with a similar vocal style, Godsmack does not rip off AIC with a similar vocal style.

Yeah, they do. Don't get me wrong, I like Godsmack and I think Chevelle is decent. But they are not original. In any way. And since both Tool and AIC have unique guitar work, and Chevelle and Godsmack do not, that makes them generic bland rip-offs. Which doesn't mean their music is bad, but if you're looking for something original, look elsewhere.

Mozzletoffed
09-25-2004, 06:03 PM
Original isn't a word anymore

Mozzletoffed
09-25-2004, 06:04 PM
this cd is good, I just got the new one, This type of thinking could do us in.
It is alright, I am a bit disapointed.

The JoZ
09-25-2004, 06:26 PM
Yeah, they do. Don't get me wrong, I like Godsmack and I think Chevelle is decent. But they are not original. In any way. And since both Tool and AIC have unique guitar work, and Chevelle and Godsmack do not, that makes them generic bland rip-offs. Which doesn't mean their music is bad, but if you're looking for something original, look elsewhere.

Everyone is influenced by someone else. Every band's sound contains part of, or elements of, another's, somewhere down the road. Pete emulates Maynard's singing style, and Sully emulates Layne's. So what? They are not 'generic bland rip-offs' simply because they sing like a certain person. About the only person who fits that category is Scott Stapp for sounding pretty much exactly like Eddie Vedder. Now that is an example of a bland, generic rip off.

Honestly. By your logic, every band that exists is a ripoff of someone else. And in that case, you'd be right. One band per genre gets to be 'original', while the rest are all just a bunch of talentless nobodies copying someone else's style, as opposed to emulating.

Jom
11-17-2004, 08:43 PM
^ JoZ makes great points...

... I'm going to download "Wonder What's Next" and "This Type of Thinking (Could Do Us In)" off the network tonight to see if they are buy-worthy... I've only heard the singles from WWN and three songs from TToT ("Still Running" [from 'The Punisher'], "Vitamin R (Leading Us Along)," and "The Clincher (from Madden, as was stated earlier)."

The JoZ
11-18-2004, 10:41 AM
^ JoZ makes great points...

Thanks, I try :thumb:

... I'm going to download "Wonder What's Next" and "This Type of Thinking (Could Do Us In)" off the network tonight to see if they are buy-worthy... I've only heard the singles from WWN and three songs from TToT ("Still Running" [from 'The Punisher'], "Vitamin R (Leading Us Along)," and "The Clincher (from Madden, as was stated earlier)."

WWN is definetly buy worthy. The singles don't do it justice, except maybe "Closure".

TToT...well, I don't regret buying it, but it has a lot of lower-key tracks that some people may not like. It's still a good album, and I like how the basswork has expanded a little, and so have Joe's backing vocals...but there are more strong tracks on WWN than TToT IMO. The strong tracks on TToT, however, are quite strong.

Stev0
11-18-2004, 12:05 PM
Chevelle are a quality band, but im not too keen on the new stuff

Jom
11-18-2004, 01:41 PM
Thanks, I try :thumb: WWN is definetly buy worthy. The singles don't do it justice, except maybe "Closure". TToT...well, I don't regret buying it, but it has a lot of lower-key tracks that some people may not like. It's still a good album, and I like how the basswork has expanded a little, and so have Joe's backing vocals...but there are more strong tracks on WWN than TToT IMO. The strong tracks on TToT, however, are quite strong.

Thanks for your help :thumb:

The only kid that shares TToT on the network was missing a song, so I have to go over to his room and see if he'll put it up for me. It'd be lousy to hear every song except for one...