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Kaden
11-30-2003, 04:14 PM
Dream Theater, what a great band! This is their 2nd newest album, and on this album DT consists of:

James Labrie-vocals
Jordan Ruddess-keyboards
John Myung-Bass
John Petrucci-guitar
Mike Portnoy-drums and percussion

The first disc of this album has 5 songs on it.

1. Glass Prison-This song is almost 15 minutes long, it's loud, fast, energetic, your basic metal song. It totally rocks.
5/5

2. Blind Faith-I don't see what's so great about this song. I think it really drags on and on and on, like they felt as though they needed to make it long, just to live up to their reputation. If it was about 5 minutes long, it would be great.
2/5

3. Misunderstood-This is a ballad. It's slow, and calm. I abolutely love it, but it too suffers from repetition. They tried to drag it on too long, and it really brings down the quality of the song.
3/5

4. The Great Debate-This track is about stem cell research. It, similiar to the Glass Prison, is just a rockin' song.
4/5

5. Dissapear-This is the shortest song on the album, at about 6 minutes. It's a simple, emotional ballad. Awesome stuff.
5/5

The whole second disc is one song. With a duration of almost 43 minutes, it's also DT's longest song.

1. 6 Degrees of Inner Turbulence-It's separated into 8 chapters. I think this song is amazing, even though a lot of people disagree with me. It really shows Dream Theater's full capacity to play a wide range of musical styles. It goes from fast-paced metal (Test that Stumped Them All) to beautiful balladry (Goodnight Kiss). IMO, this is a great song.
5/5

All in all, this album gets a 3/5 from me. It was the first DT album I heard, and really got me into the band. It's also a lot more mainstream-friendly than DT's other stuff, but still good.

FillInTheBlankHere___
11-30-2003, 05:43 PM
The Great Debate OWNS live. :cool:

I like this album, lots of people don't but there's still some great moments. The one thing that irks me is the Overture to 6DOIT, I don't like the strings done by Rudess. :( It would own if they had hired an orchestra, but that probably would've put them over budget. Dream Theater overtures should be kept in the style of Overture 1928. :thumb:

savarious
11-30-2003, 09:47 PM
6DOIT is my least favorite DT album, but that does not make it a bad record. My favorites-Blind Faith, Solitary Shell

Maveryck
11-30-2003, 09:52 PM
I'd give it 4/5.

Must-listen moments:

The Glass Prison (the whole song is absolutely incredible. I don't know how you can have a 15 minute song and not have it get boring, but they did it).

The intro/main piano part in Disappear is one of the most beautiful things I've ever heard.

The riff from War Inside My Head... amazing, a complete contradiction to the other styles used in 6DOIT, but somehow it still fits in.

manuscriptreplica
11-30-2003, 10:17 PM
cheers for the review
i heard the glass prison and was honestly blown away.... after about 2 minutes (you know the bit with the real heavy guitar riff and the double bass pedal) is like... wow. anyways i may go pick it up now but i dont have any cash... ****.
and i love the quote... "This is the shortest song on the album, at about 6 minutes"... that is a mammoth song for most bands haha

LordWorm in 3-D
12-01-2003, 09:24 AM
Not bad, Blind Faith is great though, especially the solos

Distorted Vision
12-01-2003, 09:35 AM
Pretty good album, not their best obviously but still good.

I agree with LordWorm there about Blind Faith, I think its a great song.

The second disc is good but the Overture does drag on a bit. And it has a good mix of styles - heavy and technical (TTTSTA) contrasting with light and catchy (Solitary Shell, my favourite section).

4/5 I'd say. But a low 4 if I'm considering the other albums.

Animus Light
01-19-2004, 05:37 PM
Firstly, I LOVE Blind Faith. I think it's one of the best songs on the album. The line, "Sorry, you must excuse me, I painted my own Mona Lisa" just speaks.. eternal vigilance.

In any case, this is probably my favourite Dream Theater album. Glass Prison, Blind Faith, Misunderstood, The Great Debate... I'm not too fond of Disappear... But pretty much every song on this album is excellent.

Speedy Fingers
01-19-2004, 06:17 PM
Im only just getting into DT, the only albumj i've got, or heard, is live scenes from new york, and it is phenominal!!!! theyre like, my number one band....an i missed them live!!!!

Overture 1928 and The Dance of Eternity absolutely rock!!!! and me and my mate are gonna do spirit carries on for the school. which shud be alright!!! All 3 discs rule!!!!! 5/5

Kaden
01-19-2004, 06:44 PM
Im only just getting into DT, the only albumj i've got, or heard, is live scenes from new york, and it is phenominal!!!! theyre like, my number one band....an i missed them live!!!!

Overture 1928 and The Dance of Eternity absolutely rock!!!! and me and my mate are gonna do spirit carries on for the school. which shud be alright!!! All 3 discs rule!!!!! 5/5
You realize that that's not what I reviewed, right?

Crotchet
01-19-2004, 07:15 PM
i'd give the music for 'the glass prison' 5/5 but the lyrics dont seem to fit in some parts, so 4/5 for the lyrics.

br3ad_man
02-27-2004, 05:06 PM
Listening to it now :)

I'm about 1 minute away from the end of Blind Faith. Great stuff.

Hababi
03-22-2004, 06:51 PM
I'd give it 2/5. I was REALLY disappointed. So unfocused, corny in places, masturbatory...

The JoZ
03-22-2004, 07:13 PM
I absolutely love The Glass Prison...

This will probably be the first album of theirs I get

Kaden
03-22-2004, 07:35 PM
I'd give it 2/5. I was REALLY disappointed. So unfocused, corny in places, masturbatory...
Normally I'd disagree with this judgement of Dream Theater, but in this particular album, I agree. Definitely not one of their best..

3074326
03-22-2004, 08:32 PM
Kaden, I have found something musically that we disagree on.. Blind Faith is possibly my favorite from the album.

Good review though, it's not DT's best effort, although worth the buy if you want to listen to something a little out of the ordinary.

The songs are much better live, by the way. Especially The Great Debate.

:thumb:

el doctor
03-23-2004, 07:29 PM
I'd give it 2/5. I was REALLY disappointed. So unfocused, corny in places, masturbatory...
I agree, I'd give the album most of its points for The Glass Prison alone.

There are however certain parts of thw album I really like. I think Blind Faith is a great song. I could care less about Disappear. Misunderstood could be great but it drags on a bit too long. There points in the song, and the album, where it seems to just wander without any certain direction. The Great Debate is a pretty damn cool song. There's nothing so memorable, but it's a good song. If it wasn't for The Glass Prison, I really wouldn't care at all about the first disc.

Disc two...I have mixed feelings on it. It definitely screams of the obvious talent Dream Theater has. I think the Overture is great and has some memorable parts, although it does seem to drag a bit. Most people will say "Pffff, it's no Overture 1928". Well, I would agree with that, but then again, how can you meet all the hype and expectations right after making SFAM? For those of you who have played in your school band or orchestra, you'd know that anybody would love to be able to play a song like the overture for school. That alone makes me enjoy the song. I think the whole second disc is great in that you go from a soft ballad one second to what was (before the release of Train of Thought of course) some of the hardest and heaviest Dream Theater songs released. I actually really like the reprise of About To Crash and I think that would've made a better ending. Losing Time makes a good finale, but coming from Dream Theater, I'd expect a mindblowing song as the finale.

Overall, I'd give the album a 3 maybe. Relative to other DT albums, it's not as strong, but standing alone, it's still a good album. Again though, IMO, The Glass Prison makes/saves this album.

slashjunior
03-25-2004, 04:17 AM
I would give 6DOIT 4.5/5.

Great album. IMO it is their greatest album in terms of songwriting and the transistion from metal to ballad. The first disc has some real heavy stuff mixed with some great ballady stuff, really a lot more experimental with different sounds, especially Petrucci and Rudess. The second disc is just amazing.

Not really related but does anyone notice how the last 3 DT albums smoothly transist from one to the other? The rain from the end of SFAM starts the 6DOIT album, then that long fade out at the end of 6DOIT slowly fades back in at the start of TOT. Try putting all the albums into something like Winamp SFAM first, then 6DOIT, then TOT and tell me what you think. Sorry if this has already been done, but I found it and I am pretty proud :D.

Four Ton Mantis
03-25-2004, 04:58 AM
2. Blind Faith-I don't see what's so great about this song. I think it really drags on and on and on, like they felt as though they needed to make it long, just to live up to their reputation. If it was about 5 minutes long, it would be great.
2/5
OMG. liek die please

Kaden
03-25-2004, 01:56 PM
Not really related but does anyone notice how the last 3 DT albums smoothly transist from one to the other? The rain from the end of SFAM starts the 6DOIT album, then that long fade out at the end of 6DOIT slowly fades back in at the start of TOT. Try putting all the albums into something like Winamp SFAM first, then 6DOIT, then TOT and tell me what you think. Sorry if this has already been done, but I found it and I am pretty proud :D.
I noticed that too, but they can't continue to do that. TOT ends decisively.

sensitiveorgan00
05-06-2004, 05:19 PM
A bit late, but I gave 6DOIT (Disk 1) another listen last night. I haven't touched this cd in months, but after listening to it, I enjoyed it. Sure, it's not as good as SFAM or Awake (IMO), but The Glass Prison and Dissapear are really stunning. That melody in the beginning of Dissapear is so fvcking awesome. That song owns live. :cool:

Tails
05-06-2004, 05:30 PM
I would give 6DOIT 4.5/5.

Great album. IMO it is their greatest album in terms of songwriting and the transistion from metal to ballad. The first disc has some real heavy stuff mixed with some great ballady stuff, really a lot more experimental with different sounds, especially Petrucci and Rudess. The second disc is just amazing.

Not really related but does anyone notice how the last 3 DT albums smoothly transist from one to the other? The rain from the end of SFAM starts the 6DOIT album, then that long fade out at the end of 6DOIT slowly fades back in at the start of TOT. Try putting all the albums into something like Winamp SFAM first, then 6DOIT, then TOT and tell me what you think. Sorry if this has already been done, but I found it and I am pretty proud :D.

I've noticed that as well, and I think its pretty grea thtat they do that. I like the sense of connectivity they have with the albums. As well, how The Glass Prison and This Dying Soul are like one huge song.

Anyways, I haven't heard all of this album, but from what I hear I like mostly. It's not DT's best effort, but a good album nonetheless. I'd give it about 3.75/5

Speedy Fingers
06-10-2004, 06:42 PM
My post earlier on in this thread is from months ago!!

Six Degrees is a brilliant album, I love the actually song, some of it is scarily inspiring!! The hammond organ in Blind Faith is stunning and to me, is one of those songs that sends chills up my spine.

The Great Debate is also great for having on in the background. I will say that the quality of the sound on the album deteriorates in some parts, ie. The Glass Prison.

el doctor
06-10-2004, 07:58 PM
A bit late, but I gave 6DOIT (Disk 1) another listen last night. I haven't touched this cd in months, but after listening to it, I enjoyed it. Sure, it's not as good as SFAM or Awake (IMO), but The Glass Prison and Dissapear are really stunning. That melody in the beginning of Dissapear is so fvcking awesome. That song owns live. :cool:
I take it you were at the NYC show too? ;)

I agree sensitives older comment. I've actually been listening to the album again in the past week. My opinion didn't change much about disc 2, except maybe an appreciation for some of the soloing at the end of Goodnight Kiss. I really like every song on disc one though, save for that final part of Misunderstood. Listening again also made me remember how much The Glass Prison just totally owns.

sensitiveorgan00
06-10-2004, 09:06 PM
Yep. Teh show = teh goodness. Teh red hair babe down from me = teh hotness.

The JoZ
06-10-2004, 11:09 PM
Anyone have Blind Faith and is willing to send it to me? I was checking tabs of it, and after hearing it on Guitar Pro I want to hear the full version...finally someone that isn't nu-metal using drop A on guitar...must hear

Kaden
06-10-2004, 11:16 PM
Anyone have Blind Faith and is willing to send it to me? I was checking tabs of it, and after hearing it on Guitar Pro I want to hear the full version...finally someone that isn't nu-metal using drop A on guitar...must hear
I don't think it's a drop-tuning, but I'm pretty sure he uses a 7-string.

The JoZ
06-11-2004, 12:41 AM
...Standard 7 string tuning is BEADGBE...and in the tabs and in the MIDI I have, his lowest is tuned to an A

Not 'true' drop A (ADGCFAD, in his case) but still lower than his usual B

Metallicagivesyouheadace
06-11-2004, 02:35 PM
I think six degress of inner turblance and Train of thought our strong albums. the 43 minute song is brillent, each part off the song goes into different direction but the song never gets boring. Six Degress of Inner turblance is greatly under rated. Saw them on this tour blew me way:

travislausch
06-14-2004, 11:57 AM
I don't think it's a drop-tuning, but I'm pretty sure he uses a 7-string.

Actually, according to JP in an older issue of Guitar World, he uses an Ernie-Ball Silhouette 6 string bass tuned "from A to A, like a baritone guitar". If you buy the tab book you'll also see that. The 2nd solo is, however, performed on a guitar in standard tuning. You can play Blind faith on a 7 string guitar if you want, it's a lot better for a live situation. I'm sure that would be how JP would do it.

dieseldrummer018
06-27-2004, 07:07 PM
the key break in blind faith is phenominal but yeah the rest of the song is rather dull...glass prison kick ***...disappear creep me out and is an awesome song...war insde my head and the test that stumped them all are the best chapters...****in solid stuff

mexicanfloydian
07-07-2004, 08:33 PM
This album is really really good. Very diferent from the others, This one is a lot more heavier, well ToT is more heavy. I'd give it a 4/5.

Per Ardua Ad Astra
07-09-2004, 07:47 PM
Listening to the Great Debate live is absolute sex. The songs are played much better live.

Bartender
07-09-2004, 08:05 PM
I've always had a problem with Six Degrees.. (the track). It has some very good parts (Solitary Shell, About to Crash), but as a whole it really doesn't strike me as much as many of Dream Theater's long songs do.

A Change of Seasons is the obvious comparison - ACOS is a song; one complete song, it's focused and coherent (and absolutely fantastic, as a side note), and it works. Six Degrees.. on the other hand really just appears to be several shorter songs cobbled together, with no uniting direction or focus. It just sounds bitty and half-hearted most of the time. Random personal notes - I absolutely love the riffing at the end of Solitary Shell (about 30 minutes in), and I absolutely despise the Overture.

The rest of the album pretty much follows that pattern. The Glass Prison is good though.

travislausch
09-13-2004, 11:53 AM
I've always had a problem with Six Degrees.. (the track). It has some very good parts (Solitary Shell, About to Crash), but as a whole it really doesn't strike me as much as many of Dream Theater's long songs do.

A Change of Seasons is the obvious comparison - ACOS is a song; one complete song, it's focused and coherent (and absolutely fantastic, as a side note), and it works. Six Degrees.. on the other hand really just appears to be several shorter songs cobbled together, with no uniting direction or focus. It just sounds bitty and half-hearted most of the time. Random personal notes - I absolutely love the riffing at the end of Solitary Shell (about 30 minutes in), and I absolutely despise the Overture.

The rest of the album pretty much follows that pattern. The Glass Prison is good though.

I agree that 6diot is not their strongest epic, but it does have some very intriguing moments, and Petrucci hardly ever resorts to just showing off to fill up some space. My band is actually using this piece as a template to write our own epic (we'll probably make ours a little more "cohesive" though). I take the tracks in this song as separate songs themselves, I guess it makes it easier to digest a 42 minute long song.

Cain
09-14-2004, 12:11 AM
I don't think it's a drop-tuning, but I'm pretty sure he uses a 7-string.

Actually, it's a baritone guitar that IS in fact tuned to A, which he uses for the whole song. That's why he plays all those relatively low-register Am soloing licks so fast, is because they're higher up the neck. The keyboard/guitar tandem bit is a six string tuned normally.

EDIT: oops, somebody got this already. Disregard.

Riffmeister9
09-15-2004, 11:05 AM
This is their only album i don't have. I will be picking it up after reading this.

iceman3019
09-15-2004, 11:51 PM
blind fiath, solitary shell, and goodnight kiss just take the cake. those songs are phenomenal . . . but the rest of the album is just abosolutely kickass too, i'd give it 4/5 . . .

Mr. Shango
09-16-2004, 10:42 AM
I would give 6DOIT 4.5/5.

Great album. IMO it is their greatest album in terms of songwriting and the transistion from metal to ballad. The first disc has some real heavy stuff mixed with some great ballady stuff, really a lot more experimental with different sounds, especially Petrucci and Rudess. The second disc is just amazing.

Not really related but does anyone notice how the last 3 DT albums smoothly transist from one to the other? The rain from the end of SFAM starts the 6DOIT album, then that long fade out at the end of 6DOIT slowly fades back in at the start of TOT. Try putting all the albums into something like Winamp SFAM first, then 6DOIT, then TOT and tell me what you think. Sorry if this has already been done, but I found it and I am pretty proud :D.

If you made to any DT gigs during their 6DOIT tour they play the end of Metropolis II I didn't make it to a train of thought gig but I suspect they followed through there too. You guys could check out Liquid Tension Experiment (The story behind it all is pretty cool!) - Members of DT plus Tony Levin on bass

Kirk's Puppet
10-26-2004, 01:03 AM
6DoIT is my latest DT album after getting ToT, I&W and SFaM, I like I&W most but 6DoIT isn't bad at all.

Blind Faith is a good song. I don't like a part of Glass Prison's part 2. The part where LaBrie sings really fast, meh, it's just not right.

Stingray man
11-11-2004, 12:56 PM
I agree with your review. Dream Theater beats downs all competition for best long song with "The Glass Prision." :smash: After all, who can't love the bass line in the intro :thumb: and the drums and guitar through out the song. One of the bands I'm in are playing DT stuff just as good as DT (I'm don't brag about the bands I'm in :D) for my school's rock show.

Dream Theater Rule :thumb:

newWorld
11-17-2004, 04:49 PM
I'm listening to this album for the first time in a while. I just love it. Like the first disc is quite modern in the sense that it sounds very metal, rock, and alternative. The second disc sounds like it could almost be straight out of the seventies. And I love the transition from Goodnight Kiss to Solitary shell. And the synth tone at the beginning of SS rocks.

^Dream~Theater^
11-19-2004, 03:33 PM
The cd in all is one of my favorites, there's no song that i dont love. i agree the last minute and a half of misunderstood does drag on pretty bad but the first 7-8 minutes make up for it :thumb: The intro to dissapear kinda freaks me out...those keyboards just do something..im sure im not the only that feels this way. 5/5

Shadows
11-20-2004, 11:34 AM
Nice work. I love the Glass Prison even though I don't own this.