(Metal) Metallica - St. Anger

[firemoth12]

http://www.metallica.com/images/extras/2003_logo_bw2.jpg

St. Anger

Track List:

1. Frantic
2. St. Anger
3. Some Kind of Monster
4. Dirty Window
5. Invisible Kid
6. My World
7. Shoot Me Again
8. Sweet Amber
9. The Unnamed Feeling
10. Purify
11. All Within My Hands

Review:

Before this album came out, people were really anticipating it. They were thinking it would be back to the roots of old Metallica, with the thrash, speed metal kind of stuff. In a way, it is. It many more ways, it isn't.

The CD comes in nice paper packaging with the CD, the bonus DVD (of them rehearsing every track), the booklet (which contains all lyrics and a picture of the band), and a slip of paper which gives you access to more Metallica music online.



The music is very heavy, no doubt metal, but I think they tried too hard when they were making it. They were trying to make it sound raw, agressive, and angry. But they ended up with raw, agressive, angry, and uninspired music. They simply overdid it.

However this doesn't mean it's all bad.

What I like:

Instrumentals - Even though the production is horrible (which I'll get to later), I like the guitar riffs, and the drumming. It is very fitting for this kind of music, and Lars does a good job with the double bass.

Concept - They wanted heavier, more agressive thrash, and they tried. The deserve credit for that.

What I don't like:

Production - (or lack of). Cmon guys, you could have made this sound so much better if the production was good. The tin-can sound of the snare annoys the hell out of me. The guitars sound horrible in terms of production. They are low, and muddy while the drums are trebly and ringy. I read somewhere that Protools was used to copy and paste things within the music. Well, why? The songs sound choppy and repetetive because of that and the lack of content.

Hetfield's singing - I noticed that in several songs James tries to get to a note with his voice that he is simply unable to. Sometimes, I cringe because it feels like his voice is about to crack. Also, it is off-key a lot, and that doesn't help. Make the singing match to the instrumentals and it will sound so much better.

Lack of Solos - The lack of a guitar solo in a song does not automatically irritate me. I like many bands that solo very little and a song can still be wonderful without a solo. But on this album, I noticed many spots that could have been filled with a nice guitar solo, and it is such a shame that they weren't.

Overall:

Once in a while, I will listen to this album. But, it is very hard to listen to the whole songs. They get boring, and choppy. If they improved the production, added a solo here and there, and told Hetfield to sing in key to match with the music all the time, it would have been an enjoyable record to listen to. It is only those specific things that make this album bad.

Favorite songs: All Within My Hands, Some Kind of Monster, Shoot Me Again

2/5

[Distorted Vision]

1/5, Metallica's worst album

[MxShredder]

Also, on the DVD, they are playing a few songs (im not sure which ones) for the first time ever, WHILE it is being recorded

I'll give it a 2.5\5

[Agrotath]

They purposely wanted it to sound bad to break away from last century...I understand trying something new but they had it good.

[sting-ray]

the drums sounded bad, the guitars weren't metallica-like, the vocals were not as sharp... St. Anger is not a bad album compared to some other stuff out there, but it is themselves. I like a few songs on the album, but overall igive it a:

1.5/5

[Drunk Hobo]

Good review man, I was expecting "St. Anger ****ing sucks!". I don't mind the album, the songs get repetitive when they go on for seven minutes with no solos.

Good job :thumb:

2.5/5

[Prodigal_Suns_Rock]

The songs do get really repetitive. The lyrics are also really bad. They seem like James is just makin **** up. It took me a bit but i did eventually get into the album. I have to go from start to end though.

[Prodigal_Suns_Rock]

oh yeah, 2/5

[AbandonedD]

Cashallica, Selloutica... need to spend time MAKING the music then counting they money the MAKING...

[iloveteddy]

.5/5

Worst album ever

[MxShredder]

Originally posted by iloveteddy
.5/5

Worst album ever

:lol: no

[BlindKoRnKid]

1/5
i thought this was their worst album

i didnt like that they didnt have any real long guitar solos and stuff

i think that metallica is turning in the nu-metal

i think that they should go back to their roots and make some more harder guitar riffs and some killer solos from Kirk Hammet!!

[hybridofsound]

I've just borrowed this cd off a friend and really I have to agree with the reviewer. What the hell is up with the production. The drums sound terible. I hope the album they produce next is a huge step away from this.

[sting-ray]

Originally posted by AbandonedD
Cashallica, Selloutica... need to spend time MAKING the music then counting they money the MAKING...


their time is simply over, you cant expect a band to make great music for over 20 years. In my mind they just wanted their music to stay relevant with the period.

[Bartender]

I probably agree with 2.5/5...I've had a friend of mine bitching at me for weeks now about how its not fair to judge an album against the band's past output, which I've consistently tried to tell him is crap - you can't just forget that Metallica have made some of the best music in the past two decades.

Also, I hate the fact that people say "How can you say its not that bad?? Its Metallica's worst album!!". Well of course its their worst album - they're Metallica. Every band has a worst album, and, for example, Zeppelin's worst still kicks the **** out of a good majority of the bands out there.

Anyway, good review :) Congrats on avoiding what I just did and treating this like another rock and metal St Anger thread :/

[manuscriptreplica]

i tend to agree with Bartender - just because its **** compared to old metallica doesnt make it the worst album ever and deserving of .5/5. like really, you cannot possibly conceive a good charlotte CD is better than this.
i gave it a 3/5... i couldnt really care if they 'sold out' im sure they had enough money that they didnt need to go mainstream to get more money, its to expand their fan base. i am sure their next album will be back to 80's metallica and everyone will love them again.
well thats what i think anyways

[Zmev]

3/5, the songs were heavy but the lyrics and vocals were crap

[mettalicat]

I was really dissapointed with st anger. There is so much wrong with it that could have been easily put right. Metallica are moving away from what they are good at, and while I respect that, I feel that the whole thing sounded pretty badly thought out.

[Agrotath]

It's not easy being the best band ever :lol:

[Ecu]

2.5/5

Production : -1
Repetitive and boring riffs : -1
Bad vocals : -1
75 minutes music (when other bands sell 35 minutes records at the same price), and DVD inside : +0.5

[LBC]

Although the cd was poor quality the effort wasn't all that bad. I think the blame should be given to Bob Rock, who decided it would be "better" if they used vintage mics and only do one or two takes on each song to capture the "immediacy" of them. BULL****! If the sound was better quality I don't think the album would be as negitively criticized.

Now, I do agree with the argument that Kirk needed to put some more solos in...every song in fact. What happened? In all the other albums he had the sweetest solos, even if it's 10 seconds long. More solos!

The only other problem I see with it is James' vocals. If he had taken more time and takes on the songs they would be a lot better.

Lars' druming and Rob's bass work was excellent! They couldn't do better, just better sound quality yet again.

I hope the next album is better, but it's still Metallica and im giving it a 3/5.

[dougefresh]

3/5

Much better than Load or Reload, all though I didn't like the fact that they had no solos, James' voice was weird and the drums sounded like ****

[guitarded_chuck]

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[manuscriptreplica]

^^^ what does that mean?

[UntilItSleeps]

St Anger was ok, yea the guitars were tuned way too low and there should of been solos, the bass was good, the drums were ok didnt really like the sound. I think Bob Rock does a bad job with Metallica personally i like flemming rasmussen

[Neon Dub]

I would of thought most fans were thinking it's fan ta ta ta ta ta ta tastic.

I haven't heard any of their albums so I can't judge, but I dont like the singles off st anger.

[sting-ray]

Originally posted by Anti-Bush
2.5/5


this is not acceptable. Try again, and this time write something other than your rating.

[the brass bass man]

good review, terrible cd...



-5/5

[13hrdrive]

Also, on the DVD, they are playing a few songs (im not sure which ones) for the first time ever, WHILE it is being recorded

I'll give it a 2.5\5


NOT TRUE - ROB IS ON THE BASS IN THE DVD. HE WAS NEVER ON THE RECORDING OF THE ALBUM - IT WAS BOB ROCK ON BASS AND PRODUCING.

[theboywhodestroyedtheworld]

I've only heard the song St.Anger, but it sure sucks ***

[BlackStratMatt]

:upset:
What a shame job. I'm dissapointed with Metallica. The Guitars were scratchy, the drums sounded like he was planning a bunch of bloody garbage lids and the vocals sounded like my neighbour complaining about the noise.

2/5 it would've been 0 but i'm a fan of Robert Trujillo and Metallica in General.

[0000]

Compared to other Metallica albums I think St. Anger sucks but when looked at in comparison to other Nu-metal albums its pretty good. But obviously people dont want Nu-metal from metallica. Then they'd be called Nu-Metallica. Makes sense really. Although we cant persecute them for wanting to try new ideas I think metallica should've stayed truer to their style on this album and perhaps taken more than twenty minutes to produce it (the drums sound like a ****ing garage recording!!!). overall 2/5.

[thedeafeningsilence]

i didn't like this album either. the drums are terrible and hetfield's voice can reeeaaalllyyyy get pretty hard to listen to. i dont think i've ever been as disappointed in an album as i was with this one.

[shadowsfall916]

I think St.Anger is pretty good album,its time they done somthing besides the same old stuff.(8-9 min.song,w/Kirk showing he can play lead).I ve also read u guys saying,they were tuned to low!,yeah right bout time they got out of that standard bull****.They were only dropped To C(CGCFAD) on every song but 2.The Unamed Feeling(BF#BEG#C#),and The Invisable kid(AbEbAbDbGbBb).I do agree they need solos,cuse thats there trade mark,but not everysong.Hetfields vocals were a little messed up,Lars,Snare sounds like a little kid beating on pots and pans.I guess now we all see whay theyed rather sue people than play cause they are not @ the top anymore.Also they recorded the songs live in the studio.

[warpigs2380]

I was disappointed overall with the album. Mostly from my own perception that they were going to put out another 'Ride the Lightning' when I heard the new album was a lot heavier than the last few. The lyrics on a few songs are laughable (Frantic being the obvious). Plus, the lack of whiskeyburn on James' pipes seems to be very apparent, but I didn't mind it too much.

A whole album without a solo also hurts. A solo helps break up the song a bit, as well as put a unique stamp on it. After a while, St. Anger seemed to become one long song to me. I started missing when a new song had started.

I can appreciate that they didn't want this album overproduced. I think they may have underproduced this one though. This was the album they should have called Garage days revisited. I can hear that snare drum in my nightmares.

You get the feeling that St. Anger could almost never have been a total success. I see 2 distinct Metallica fan groups. The old school (Kill'em,Lightning, Puppets) and the commercial (Load, Re-Load). One of these groups was gonna be upset over this album. Personally, I'm glad they chose to make this a heavier album (even if it wasnt all that great). Buck the trend a little bit. And it took balls on their part, they could have been Nickelback and just write 2.5-3 minute radio rock songs just to make money.

I give it a 3/5

** A note on the DVD (coming from their interview on Much Music) Rob had seen the music a half hour before they started filming. I couldn't tell from watching. Good on ya Rob.

[armada]

it blows -20/5

i lost complete respect for metallica when they released this huge turd

[manuscriptreplica]

it blows -20/5

i lost complete respect for metallica when they released this huge turd

you idiot.

[remreemerer]

I've only heard the song St.Anger, but it sure sucks ***
hahahahaha i love your review man....anywho to the cd i have read only this page but so far i can tell most ppl who have reviewed this cd are inexerienced morons who pretend to know stuff about music(im not pretending to i dont know anything but my own opinion).

anyway someone said the drums sucked thats because the snare was sooooo low it sounded like trash cans umm poeple keep saying kirk neede more solos well you see its verry difficult to write a solo and they didnt spend too much time on this album because james just got out of rehab. anyhwo in my opinion all of their stuff is awsome the new cd isnt my style and it isnt metallicas however they do what they want and the fan i am i support them its not like its horrible music. in fact compared to most metal out there st anger was great.

someone said they had the guitars turned down too low? moron its the distortion and tuning they used a completely different distortion than noraml. umm lets see bass is fine the new bassist rob is great in concert(not from experience but my best friend toured with them last summer in wich they rarely played st anger stuff) he has energy and plays well.

i personally think the reason for the low quality of st anger was becasue they all kinda just got all cleaned up and needed something to fall back on also part of it was the producer of the albums fault.
coments on their old stuff i like most of their stuff equally Favorite album by them is S&M but favorite song is call of the ktulu wich is on S&M and Ride the Lightning :naughty:

[theboywhodestroyedtheworld]

hahahahaha i love your review man

I'm proud of that review. maybe i should've added that the nu-metal chorus in the song is one of the worst choruses i've heard, makes me wanna smash in the ****ing tv screen whenever that song comes on.

[Neon Dub]

you idiot.

Now cut it, now cut it!

;);)

<-- ATDI fan too

[Cheese Smirnoff]

No ****ing guitar solos!!!!

-5/5

[shadowsfall916]

No ****ing guitar solos!!!!

-5/5
Music is not all about guitar solos,Everyone is crying cause there no solos in this cd so what it sounds good if u dont like it than dont listen to :angry:
4/5 If Metallica doesnt wont solos than let them do it,if they wont it go for it.

[MxShredder]

NOT TRUE - ROB IS ON THE BASS IN THE DVD. HE WAS NEVER ON THE RECORDING OF THE ALBUM - IT WAS BOB ROCK ON BASS AND PRODUCING.


.....i don't think you understood me

what i meant, is that while the video crew was recording the footage for the DVD, metalllica is playing a few of the songs (from start to finish) for the first time ever.

[emokid03]

.5/5

Worst album ever



I agree, this is the worst album ever! :)

[Griffin_Page]

75 minutes music (when other bands sell 35 minutes records at the same price), and DVD inside : +0.5


If it had been 75 minutes of good music, that may have counted.

1/5, one of the worst albums ever in my opinion... not just Metallica's worst album, but one of metal's (if you can call it metal) worst albums as well.

[brycey]

it isn't that great an album, if it was thrash metal, then everyone here would probably love it, but as people have said, the vocals kinda sucked and the drums uber-sucked.

[metallica_pyro]

9 out of 5!! One of Metallica's best albums!!

[stevie ray]

first album ive ever bought on the day it came out

first album from metallica i bought the day it came out

first big disappointment with a new album

I spent $17 on it

And it took 45 minutes to get the CD store, buy it, and get back home (i stupidely went the long way)

[firemoth12]

.....i don't think you understood me

what i meant, is that while the video crew was recording the footage for the DVD, metalllica is playing a few of the songs (from start to finish) for the first time ever.

Rob wan't even in the band yet when they recorded the album...so how could they be playing songs for the first time?

[thrashfanatic2010]

i don' think its the worst album ever but its metallica worst , production terrible, guitar playing is subpar for tallica and the drums, i didn't know lars traded his set for garbage cans and this hard for me to say cuz im big tallica fan, 1/5 and im being nice

[jimmymcmahon2001]

This is album is good in small doses. I can listen to each song at a time, but i cant do it all at once. The first time i listend to it, i got a headache at song 7.
Each song on its own is all right, but as a whole, its un listenable.
2/5

[Raijo]

http://www.metallica.com/images/extras/2003_logo_bw2.jpg

St. Anger

Track List:

1. Frantic
2. St. Anger
3. Some Kind of Monster
4. Dirty Window
5. Invisible Kid
6. My World
7. Shoot Me Again
8. Sweet Amber
9. The Unnamed Feeling
10. Purify
11. All Within My Hands

Review:

Before this album came out, people were really anticipating it. They were thinking it would be back to the roots of old Metallica, with the thrash, speed metal kind of stuff. In a way, it is. It many more ways, it isn't.

The CD comes in nice paper packaging with the CD, the bonus DVD (of them rehearsing every track), the booklet (which contains all lyrics and a picture of the band), and a slip of paper which gives you access to more Metallica music online.



The music is very heavy, no doubt metal, but I think they tried too hard when they were making it. They were trying to make it sound raw, agressive, and angry. But they ended up with raw, agressive, angry, and uninspired music. They simply overdid it.

However this doesn't mean it's all bad.

What I like:

Instrumentals - Even though the production is horrible (which I'll get to later), I like the guitar riffs, and the drumming. It is very fitting for this kind of music, and Lars does a good job with the double bass.

Concept - They wanted heavier, more agressive thrash, and they tried. The deserve credit for that.

What I don't like:

Production - (or lack of). Cmon guys, you could have made this sound so much better if the production was good. The tin-can sound of the snare annoys the hell out of me. The guitars sound horrible in terms of production. They are low, and muddy while the drums are trebly and ringy. I read somewhere that Protools was used to copy and paste things within the music. Well, why? The songs sound choppy and repetetive because of that and the lack of content.

Hetfield's singing - I noticed that in several songs James tries to get to a note with his voice that he is simply unable to. Sometimes, I cringe because it feels like his voice is about to crack. Also, it is off-key a lot, and that doesn't help. Make the singing match to the instrumentals and it will sound so much better.

Lack of Solos - The lack of a guitar solo in a song does not automatically irritate me. I like many bands that solo very little and a song can still be wonderful without a solo. But on this album, I noticed many spots that could have been filled with a nice guitar solo, and it is such a shame that they weren't.

Overall:

Once in a while, I will listen to this album. But, it is very hard to listen to the whole songs. They get boring, and choppy. If they improved the production, added a solo here and there, and told Hetfield to sing in key to match with the music all the time, it would have been an enjoyable record to listen to. It is only those specific things that make this album bad.

Favorite songs: All Within My Hands, Some Kind of Monster, Shoot Me Again

2/5

Metallica's best effort, 1000000/5 :rolleyes:

[The JoZ]

Did I comment on this one yet? I don't think so...

I like some of the songs on here. In terms of fast, in-your-face metal, this does the trick...without solos, and with horrid production, however

I heard Hammett quoted somewhere saying that the next album would be a return to their 80's thrash heyday....let's see how that goes...and look at this one as an experiment that didn't quite work...

[MxShredder]

Rob wan't even in the band yet when they recorded the album...so how could they be playing songs for the first time?

i'll keep this simple

1. metallica didn't record this album live, some parts were recorded at different times (even months apart in a few cases)

2. there were a few songs that they never played, in their entirety, from start to finish untill the DVD shooting crew came to the studio

3. the dvd crew comes and sets up, metallica notices that there are a few songs that they have never truely rehearsed beforehand

4. while the dvd crew is recording them, you see them playing a few songs (i don't know which ones) in their entirety, for the first time ever

if you figured out how to come here and become a member, it should be well within your mental capacity to understand that

[artificial infection]

well although it's a bit repeatitive, and some songs sound similar, i think it's quite good, but nto as good as the other albums they have released. And the drums are a bit too metally, sounds like ur hitting a pan (the drum skin is too tight) I'd give it around 3/5.

[Hitroshimite]

I thought St. Anger was ok. The drums are annoying and the production is pretty bad, but some of the songs were **** good (Dirty Window, Frantic, Sweet Amber, St. Anger).

3.5/5

[cobainism2003]

this is a horrible album, i didn't buy it, my friend gave it to me... and it isnt that great, i can't even listen to the whole thing, its just repetive crap, a bad album for metallica. the only decent songs on this album are Dirty Window and Sweet Amber... DO NOT BUY THIS ALBUM. Go for some older metallica, Master Of Puppets is their best, buy that instead.

[TheMiseryPlayer]

I would give them a .6/5 it was the worst album i have ever heard. Because of the lack of preparation. Everybody sounds excellent in this ablbum execpt James and his vocals. Dont get me wrong I love His vocals in every other song they have done But the vocals do not sound right with the new music.

[Bartender]

Metallica's best effort, 1000000/5 :rolleyes:

Dude, quoting entire review posts is not cool.

And to the guy just above me - how can you say its the worst album you've ever heard, if your only apparent problem is with the vocals and you think everything else sounds excellent?

This thread is getting bogged down with the same kind of arguments that were so hugely popular in R&M last year. Not necessarily a bad thing (I love seeing good discussion in CDR forum), but theres far too many people just coming on and going "terrible ****ing ****ty ****ing album", seeming not to have read the review or the posts that followed it.

[Fender_Strat8915]

i no that this thread is very old but i just have to say something......i thought that this cd sucked!! it was very different from their old stuff and i dont even listen to metallica anymore because of this cd right here!!

_____fender_strat_____

[Crashingleg]

0.0002/5. I heard Metallica lost so much money because of Napster that they couldn't afford to make good music anymore.

[Crocto]

4/5. deal with it and don't give me this garbage because children of bodom are terrible. korn sucks so don't even start there. dream theater is over indulgent. iron maiden have been rehasing since powerslave.

the production values weren't so great, but have you heard kill 'em all? the drum sounds like a trash can, but when you disconnect the snare it does sound like that. in parts jame's voice is distored like ministry uses.

why are you so scared of change? you can still go to a metallica concert and they'll still play one and master of puppets. so stop complaining.

oh and load was and still is a good CD.

[superpeer]

Worst Metallica cd I've heard.
Nonetheless 3/5

[jimmymcmahon2001]

0.0002/5. I heard Metallica lost so much money because of Napster that they couldn't afford to make good music anymore.
:lol::lol:
Good work
And, ive listened to this a few more times, and it's just gotten worse
0.5/5

[ieatalotoftacos]

What a waste of money, I want my $13 back. At least they could've made the DVD exciting, but it was just boring. It's always a bad thing when you're trying to convince yourself that an album is good after you've bought it, but release it sucks. -5/10 (if possible) Worst CD I've ever bought.

[si6664ever]

SHOCKINGLY BAD.

I would expect a lot better from metallica. St anger is a reasonable song but overall the album is very poor. Their older stuff is infinately better.

[Fender_Strat8915]

ya i thought that this cd sucked compared to their other ones......there was no solos in this cd like all of their other cds....that is what i was looking forward to..,.

2/5........it wasnt very good.....*go ahead and flame me**

[Fender_Strat8915]

What a waste of money, I want my $13 back. At least they could've made the DVD exciting, but it was just boring. It's always a bad thing when you're trying to convince yourself that an album is good after you've bought it, but release it sucks. -5/10 (if possible) Worst CD I've ever bought.


.....ya i agree with u...all of the way....

[Light_Fantastic]

Ya know, I am an old school rocker & a metallica fan from way back....
but as I listen to this band trying to update their sound , they seem to have lost their original edge on this CD.
And I have to tell ya...That snare sound on every song, drives me frickin crazy...it is annoying & obnoxious....
I guess when you are this rich & famous, when the producer or engineer knows you have a crappy snare sound, but they let you leave it that way...You know you are way too rich & famous....

Jay

[FunkMetalBass]

I dont think that they could meet there own standards for this album, although they accomplished what they wanted to with it.

[ibanez_k5]

i think that metallica thought it was goin to be easy to make the album an they just never tried since they dont need to achieve anythin more....they might of got fed up of playing there old music since they have been doin it for so long maybe they just wanted a change. they should hopefuly listen to the fans if they make another album and it should be better. meh anyway if they think that it was a success then gud for them an they should do whatever they want :thumb:

[metallicaman89]

f****** $#1t£

[jono1]

at least its better than load and reload

[jonty]

st.anger sounds like they recoreded the first few minutes then just repeated it and repeated it i wouldnt mind but its not even good

[Zppln]

1.001/5

[cytoplasmicblob]

f****** $#1t£

shut up. and on the subject of this thread, DON'T come in here and say nothing but IT SUCKED. give a full explanation of yourself, and don't say its the worst album ever, cuz trust me, i've heard MUCH worse in any and/or all genres.

[ahappydarkplace]

I think this cd is pure crap. It just isn't Metallica.

[love_Doctorb]

the album hmmmm..... 2/5

live stuff off this album.... 10/5, all the stuff off St anger goes CRAAAAAAAAZY live. i love it

[Griffin_Page]

at least its better than load and reload


Haha, since when? At least I can listen to songs off those two albums, I can't find one, and I said ONE song off of St. Anger that I like.

I don't think this album shoulda been classified under "Metal", but whatever.. I give it a "1/5". That is also the rating I give pop-punk bands and emo bands. Good job Metallica :thumb:.

[RNR]

4/5 for your review :thumb:

The album gets a 2/5.

My friend hates metallica because he watches a lot of muchmusic (Canadian MTV) and they play st anger and frantic and he thinks that that is all that Metallica ever made. The idiot.

[The NPC]

In the grand pile of poop that Metallica is...this album is the best. 5/5.

[shrubby]

9 out of 5!! One of Metallica's best albums!!
are u effing stupid? go listen to Ride the lightning, Master of Puppets, Kill 'em All, or the Black Album before you ever say anything again....

[gibsonsg]

i can't believe you're still talking about a review made 7 months ago

[metallicafan744]

this album was the worst ever by metallica .5/5

I thought it was a huge disappointment :angry:

[bassman04]

metallica are doing what they've allways done, which is change to suit a new audience. and the new audience unfortunately likes tuneless songs with shouting and not singing, not like het's real singing voice, which was utterly fantastic. but i have heard they've learned a lessons and gone back to the old stuff, eg. sad but true, the unforgiven etc. yay!

st. anger = 1/5

[jimmydean]

this album sucks ***

[GibsonPyro]

Sure the new Metallica isn't what we all hoped it'd be. But wouldn't it be pretty boring if they put out an album that sounded just like Kill 'em All? or even one just like Reload or something. They'd just be doing the same thing again. The thing is, they could have gotten a ****ty sound without TRYING to make it sound bad. They could have just used simple equipment if they wanted it to sound raw. But whatever, it sounds like a garage band. But that's not what nu-metal sounds like anyway. I don't really like this album, but i'm proud of them for having the balls to put this out. We know and they know they are incredible musicians

[Sendor]

Have to ay i like this review. i like St.Anger, go ahead, dish it out but i like the album. and even though i like the album it was soooooo refreshing to see constuctive criticizm rather than just mindless mudslinging. so whilst i disagree woth the rating, like the review. personality i rate st.anger a solid 3 to 3.5 outta 5, but definately not up there with the ***-kickery of master of puppets or ride the lightning.

[Sendor]

Sad but True? The Unforgiven, whatch out we got a black album junkie! dont get me wrong the black album was great, commercial or not it has some heavy-*** **** on it. Even Kerry King agreed woth that, but come on, the good old **** is stuff like hit the lights, damage inc. metal militia (not played live since 1986 i think, but cracked out recently).

Bassman probably isnt one of these people, but there are idiots out there who think liking enter sandman makes them hardcore metal heads. kill those people.

Although i understand how bass players would prefer black album, load and reload, bass was used a bit more on those albums. pity Jason was too **** to play bass the REAL way, without a pick.

[turbopick]

What the hell were they thinking.
It sounded like they took some korn songs and SLAGHTERED THE HELL OUT OF THEM!!!!!!!!!
wrist sliting bad
-5/5

[TallicaChic]

4/5....there are a lot of goos sngs on that album...but it needed some metal up your *** solo's...and even though they said the solo's didn't fit in..i think they could've made em fit in. Not the best MetallicA album by by itself it's pretty good.

[Crazyfingaz]

I was really disapointed with this album and it pis*ed me off when i first heard it because im a diehard metallica fan and this new album was nothing compared to there past albums. They should stick with what they do best. They should stick to there roots and keep the fast paced old stuff they've done before. I'll have to give them a 2/5.

[shanker341]

ok. i agree with how the drums sound like crap and all. but when u think about it. this album is pretty much what they used be 20 sem odd years ago. it was a disappointment in a way. like some ppl said it lacked solos and metallica is mostly aobut the solos. songs like fade to black and one have those sweet solos. but this cd still isnt as bad as ppl say. 2 me the best songs are unnamed feeling and st. anger. these are just my opinions 2.

[Floydfanatic]

hopefully they made this cd really bad so the next one will seem
really great compared to it!

[Griffin_Page]

4/5....there are a lot of goos sngs on that album...but it needed some metal up your *** solo's...and even though they said the solo's didn't fit in..i think they could've made em fit in. Not the best MetallicA album by by itself it's pretty good.

Personally, I haven't found one song on this album that I liked... or even a riff. Solos wouldn't have helped, I still wouldn't like it. Glam had good solos, but that's not gonna make me like glam. What it needed was at least good riffage and songwriting. Even without the solos, it could have been a great album.

[Bartender]

Personally, I haven't found one song on this album that I liked... or even a riff. Solos wouldn't have helped, I still wouldn't like it. Glam had good solos, but that's not gonna make me like glam. What it needed was at least good riffage and songwriting. Even without the solos, it could have been a great album.

I really like The Unnamed Feeling, but that's it now.

[Toozey]

I'd say this album is 3/5, its a solid album flawed in many ways.

[sgrevs]

pretty terrible album, i dno if they tried 2 go bak to the old kill 'em all/ride the lightning stuff like i was hoping, but if they tried they failed miserably...they failed miserably at whatever we were trying to do. bad vocals, drum sounds, producing, no solos, 1/5 and thats being generous

[SMITH05]

I lost alot of respect for (wut once was "the greatest metal band of all time")......All Metallica songs before this were masterpieces and pure signs of genious.........but the new album is just signs of Metallica seemingly getting lazy........For one thing..........I think the new bassist somehow has changed Metallica's sound and currupted Metallica..........This is to Metallica:IF THE NEXT ALBUM IS LIKE ST.ANGER(THATS A GOOD TITLE CUZ IT ONLY ANGERED METALLICA FANS)...I WILL LOSE ALL RESPECT FOR YOU(KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK;)HAHAHAHAHAHA

[Bartender]

I think the new bassist somehow has changed Metallica's sound and currupted Metallica.

He wasn't in Metallica when they were recording the album. Since he has actually been in the band, all you've got to go on are live performances, which have been great.

[ibanezs470]

Hey, you guys do have to take in to consideration that metallicas biggest influence was the misfits which is indeed a punk band (horror punk technically). So they were probably going for a punk effect which they succeded. Personally mt favorite album is kill em all ride the lightning is right next to it though. I give this album a 1/5. The drums didnt sound to good. The guitar was completly different. Bass lines got alot simpler and sounded bad and its like 4/4 timing in all there songs. Metallica is an awsome band im going to see them again in november just that st.anger **** is like another load or reload.

[darkbassist52111]

dude this album sucked. the lyrics sucked, and the vocals were also crap. as much as i like them, their time is over.

[Five Magics]

IMO, Metallica's best to worst studio non-cover albums, remember in IMO:

1. ...And Justice For All
2. Master of Puppets
3. Ride The Lightning
4. Metallica
5. Kill'em All
6. Load
7. Reload
8. St.Anger

St.Anger is just a bad album. bad lyrics, bad vocals, bad production, loooooong redundant songs, no solos.....WHA HAPPEN???

[hetfieldslostson]

Ok for starters - Misfits werent biggest influence, Metallica liked em... And they were influenced... But they were definitelly not goin for punk sound, sit down you already made an idiot of urself ibanez1470
Now - After Jason had left the band claiming the head banging he did on stage over the years had taken its toll on his back and neck he had to retire ( Or asked to leave due to side projects he had his name on tryin to earn extra pennies on the side which James was against ) whichever u prefer to believe being ur own person u guys can choose whichever yous prefer, The band was goin frantic lookin for a new bass player, James alcoholic - ness ( yes i know its not a word ) had reached an all time high, the inner fighting within the band was becoming more and more clear and they were on the brink of breaking up completely when they thought it was best if they went into group therapy, which they did and they then came to the conclusion that james should go into rehab which he did!... NOW! upon re entry into the band after exiting rehab the band was all fresh with ideas and roaring to go, BUT! James insisted in takin all writing duties he controlled all lyrics he wrote everything on the album, James is to blame for this blunder / masterpeice - whatever it is to you bcoz im not gonna rate it they are my favourite band no matter what - Im just tryin to clear up all the **** people say about the band, there are some i see in this forum who know their stuff and others who speak so much SH!T thats not true... The lyrics i think were from James experiences... I think the meaning to frantic - If u have seen the film clip - Is james way of writing a song bout himself and his ordeals - Hence the girls after girls after girls scenes and the drinking and drinkn... The album had its good points... I found the songs great live though i really did enjoy them in concert saint anger has a great feeling and vibe and kirk even introduced new solo for all songs they played off the new album - Shane - The Metallica Fan -

[Toozey]

Metallica's biggest influence was most likely Diamond head.

[lilpete86]

Metallica's biggest influence WAS diamond head :p

[dieseldrummer018]

the cd was ****ty for a metallica cd but still beats a lot of that other bull**** new rock...it looks like thats wut they went for

[TheTrooper-]

It wasnt that much a bad album...
The song are ok, its still metal...

But the point is that there is no solo, and its too different too much from the other metallica's cd.

Go watch the movie and you will learn why they change that much...

That aint the best cd of metallica, maybe there worst, but it's still ok... I give 3.25/5 (cant give 3, cant give 3.5...)

[Bartender]

I wonder why so many people choose (The) Trooper for their username.

[TheMachineRagesOn]

i didnt like the fact that they didnt write any solos for the album, but Bob Rocks bass riffs really sucked ***. i cant help but wonder what the album would of been like if Rob Trujillo wrote and played the bass.

**** Bob Rock

[IronMaidenNorway]

St. Anger is nothing compared to Dance of Death. A famous (and indeed great band) like metallica should've done better on this one. I'm eagerly awaiting their next album this autumn, but I have back-thoughts that says that this album will be just the same as St. Anger.
1/5


Btw: I HATE Bob Rock. Flemming Rasmussen on the other hand.....

[aspartame kills]

their time is simply over, you cant expect a band to make great music for over 20 years. In my mind they just wanted their music to stay relevant with the period.



no, as said above dance of death, great, a band can go for long and still make good songs, metallica ****ed up they should issue a defective product recall or something, especially the production.

[AnimalKracker918]

3/5.... 2 of those are respect points, i respect the band as artists because they are the greatest band of all time.... but this is their worst album so far... i expected more outta such a great band

[Rock'n roll]

In my opinion this isn't a good album at all.Worst album by Metallica a true let down.

[mexicanfloydian]

This album is horrible.
Bad production, repetitive songs, boring riffs, no solos, bad lyrics, horrible drums.
1/5. Don't buy it !!!!!!!!!1

[drummin_666]

I enjoyed this album!

the reason hetfield's vocals are off are because they are adjusting to his "after alcohol abuse" stage. he said so in an interview

[Theo]

I enjoyed this album!

the reason hetfield's vocals are off are because they are adjusting to his "after alcohol abuse" stage. he said so in an interview

Excuses, excuses....This album sux. Despite the fact 'Tallica are a great band, despite the fact i like 'em. Repetitive, badly produced album with no musical idea whatsoever, just mindless dropped C pounding that any numetal band could've "written".

[metallicamaniac16]

I'm a fan of most of Metallica's older stuff, like the Black Album, Master of Puppets, Ride the Lightning, and ...And Justice For All. S&M was okay, but could have been better. I have only seen the videos of the singles off St. Anger, and I don't plan on getting it for a bunch of reasons.
James: James is one of my favorite rhythm guitarists. He's up there with Randy Rhoads, but his guitar sounds really fuzzy and crappy on the singles that I've heard. Then there's his voice; he sings like sh*t on this cd. He's off-key, and he screamed in the song St. Anger. I don't know if he screams in the other songs, but I hate it when the vocalist for any band screams during a song.
Kirk: I love Kirk's solos all throughout his career, which is why I'm not feeling this cd. It doesn't have a single solo on it! As a guitarist, I know exactly how hard it is to write a solo, but Kirk has written some of the best solos I have ever heard, and I hope in the future, he continues to.
Rob: I don't know much about Rob. I'm not a bassist. I know he didn't write any of the songs on the record, but I'm a Jason Newsted fan. Rob may be an incredible bassist, but Jason was my favorite bassist, and I just don't think it's Metallica without him.
Lars: Lars is probably my favorite drummer, but I don't know much about drums. I do know, though, when they sound like sh*t, and that is what they sound like on this cd. They are loud and annoying, and the beats, in my opinion, are way too fast for the singles; I don't know about the other songs.
Bob Rock: C'mon Bob, you may have had some great ideas for Metallica in the past, but this idea of recording earlier than normal for a more raw sound sucked major balls. The sound production was crap, the guitars were fuzzy, and from what I have heard, some of the songs drag on forever and get repetitive. You better friggin have some better ideas for the next cd.
Thats it. I'd rate the cd, but I'd have to listen to the whole cd, and I don't want to put myself through that.

[alcoholocaust]

The sound quality here was even worse than ...And Justice for All. Yuck.

[RoaRing_Roach]

Here we go...

This album was announced the worst of the year and most people will agree
I am probably the exception of this forum.I love the album!However,it's a bad production cant deny it.
I just want to point out that the snare drum isnt supposed to be with the snares put on all the time(some people say it sounds like Lars is bashing tins just because the snares are off)
I adore Lars' drummin this time and kirk's riffs.The last two songs shoudnt exist
I won't take into consideration the production cause it doesnt bother me.I still bang my head!
3.8/5

[IsItLuck?]

Here we go...

This album was announced the worst of the year and most people will agree
I am probably the exception of this forum.I love the album!However,it's a bad production cant deny it.
I just want to point out that the snare drum isnt supposed to be with the snares put on all the time(some people say it sounds like Lars is bashing tins just because the snares are off)
I adore Lars' drummin this time and kirk's riffs.The last two songs shoudnt exist
I won't take into consideration the production cause it doesnt bother me.I still bang my head!
3.8/5

Hi to you clueless, this album totally sucked the big one. Taking Back Sunday's new CD is better than this one. All the other Metallica CDs kicked so much *** too :(

[Theo]

Hi to you clueless, this album totally sucked the big one. Taking Back Sunday's new CD is better than this one. All the other Metallica CDs kicked so much *** too :(

Wow, wow a little too strong of a statement. Taking Back what??? Oh yes, another one of those new annoying talentless fukcs...

[RoaRing_Roach]

Hi to you clueless, this album totally sucked the big one. Taking Back Sunday's new CD is better than this one. All the other Metallica CDs kicked so much *** too :(
what's ur problem man?If the DJ at the rockhouse I hang out plays st.anger(the album)I will bang my head so hard...but you gonna sit there and do nothing but complain bout bob rock and Lars' tins.who's having more fun?
Or think of it another way...I have one more cd that I can enjoy than you
taking back what??Jesus Christ!

[rocky2999]

The songs do get really repetitive. The lyrics are also really bad. They seem like James is just makin **** up. It took me a bit but i did eventually get into the album. I have to go from start to end though.

lars and kirk wrote a lot of the lyrics if not all of them...im not sure if hetfield contributed to the lyrics on this album. overall i havent listened to it, the pangy snare drum has annoyed me too much, st anger and frantic sounded good live when they came in to town, other than that thumbs down to that album

[oldmetallicafan]

i think metallica should have stick to what they are good at which is whisky enhanced vocals and long heavy solos.
im pretty shure i spent 20$ on a big piece of s*** :angry:
i award them no points and may god have mercy on their souls

[METALbassist_101]

I think this was their worst album ever.... but it wasn't that bad.
It's cool that they are using different tunings instead of standard and the songs weren't that bad.
The most annoying part about the album was the repetitiveness and those **** snare drums. And it was under produced.
hopefully they stay true to their roots on the next album


I still love tallica and they've made kickass music
I'm gonna give this album 3.5/5

[nisakss]

I don't know what the big dissapointment is all about...metallica sucks now just as much as they have sucked always. The only good thing about Metallica was CLiff Burto, if there has ever been something good about them...

[blackened_waters]

i really liked the guitars on invisible kid. they weren't as muddy and the riffs are insanely heavy. the unnamed feeling was good too. i loved how when they played dirty window live, kirk threw in a solo. i hate how people say that metallica has sold out and only play ****.ty music now. i saw them in denver last april and i was blown away. the only songs they played from the last decade were three off of st. anger and fuel. everything else was old stuff. i loved it.

[StSandman08]

When I first got this cd I thought to myself how could this possible be Metallica. Then the next day I put it in my home CD player cranked it up real loud and took another listen. I first heard Frantic. At first It didn't even sound like the same CD to me. The guitar seemed louder with the volume up and drowed the drums out. I thought how awsome off a song Frantic was. Then St.Anger, I thought well a nice beginning and not to bad. I give the first 2 songs a 4/5. Next was Some Kind Of Monster, Dirty Window, and Invisible Kid. I was sold I finally relised this was a good CD. Then came My World, Shoot Me Again, and Sweet Amber. My world had such an agressive beginning it was awsome. Shoot Me Again had such and awsome meaning I always listen to it before football games. Then Sweet Amber awsome intro good lyrics and overall a pretty good song. Then came the Unnamed Felling just a good song with an awsome corus.

[Maneatingbrick]

I give it a 2/10

Its definatly metallicas worst album but if you pretend its not metallica then you can enjoy the album. A good snare and solos in the parts where they repeat themselfs would have made this album great.

btw have any of you noticed that metallica only started to suck when they started working with bob rock?

[Knoxvillelives]

I knid of like this album. I REALLY like Some Kind Of Monster, and I can't wait to see the film over in da UK. St. Anger the song is alright, the rest is OK. Hetfield sounds good imo, especially on SKOM and St. Anger, his voice sounds rougher, more mature whereas on previous records it was very 80's, not very defined, blended in too much etc. Although Metallica are not my fave band by a long shot, I prefer this album to Master of Puppets and Justice for all, which are the other MET albums I ownbecuase it sounds more modern (I like 80's pop, 60's rock, but not 80's metal!). The drumming isn't bad, but the trebly snare pisses me off, but on St. Anger and SKOM it is played down a little so I don't mind.

[The Bronx Are Here]

9 out of 5!! One of Metallica's best albums!!


are you ****ing joking! that was their worst album so far! In my opinion all of their albums up to the black album have had some of the best music on i have ever heard! It aint terrible but it aint exactly their style of music.

you've gota give 'em brownie points for trying

2.5/5 (mainly for trying something new)

[The Bronx Are Here]

This is album is good in small doses. I can listen to each song at a time, but i cant do it all at once. The first time i listend to it, i got a headache at song 7.
Each song on its own is all right, but as a whole, its un listenable.
2/5

Atleast i've got an album that will put me to sleep at night! no joke it's my sleep music.

but i understand what your saying the drums are very annoying!!!!!

[The Bronx Are Here]

Metallica's best effort, 1000000/5 :rolleyes:



ARE YOU ON DRUGS????????? I MEAN GEEZ WTF WERE YOU THINKING WHEN YOU WROTE THAT HAVE YOU NOT HEARD THEIR TRULY GREAT SONGS FROM THE EARLY DAYS WHEN YOU WERE A WEE NIPER AND I WERNT BORN!

[SubtleDagger]

Someone doesn't get sarcasm.

This someone also seems to be a retard.

[Bartender]

The :rolleyes: is sarcastic.

EDIT: Damn.

[Knoxvillelives]

What a dumbass. Who types in capitals anyway? How can you spell wee nipper wrong?

[The Bronx Are Here]

What a dumbass. Who types in capitals anyway? How can you spell wee nipper wrong?

ATH A MATTU OV FUCT IME A VERRY GUD SPEELER SO SHUT DA FUOOK UOP
ANT ME MOMIE SES I IS A SPESIAL SHILD :D

[The Bronx Are Here]

Wht a dubmass. ho typs in captals anywie? How can you spell wee niiperrr wrong?

I'm this guys friend you say he can't spell then look at you

[caspian]

there worst album, but still a lot better then most albums released today. 3.5/5.

-1 production -1 lack of solos -1 "ooo what a good boy you are"
+1 lars drumming (sounded crap, but it swung like never before)
+0.5 DVD

[Chu]

i tend to agree with Bartender - just because its **** compared to old metallica doesnt make it the worst album ever and deserving of .5/5. like really, you cannot possibly conceive a good charlotte CD is better than this.
i gave it a 3/5... i couldnt really care if they 'sold out' im sure they had enough money that they didnt need to go mainstream to get more money, its to expand their fan base. i am sure their next album will be back to 80's metallica and everyone will love them again.
well thats what i think anyways
I really hope you're correct, and if you are, well I'll go out on the town and shout everyone drinks.

[manuscriptreplica]

I must of wrote that a while ago

[chili_hed]

drop c is ok for a couple of songs, but not for a whole album. drums are **** too, and the singing is too repetitive. this is my first metallica album, i was going to buy black. i think maybe i should've.

[Hammertime1506]

:upset: ---> CAPS LOCK :smoke:


EVERYBODY SELL OUT!!! you'll make more Money!!! :eek: :lol:

~Mars Volta~

[Lars_ironcobra_doublepedal]

This Album has no quality and without quality in their songs they sound like starters.

[Lars_ironcobra_doublepedal]

Nothing else to say about St. Anger

[Rattlehead_22]

Before this pice of **** came out Metallica was my favorite band. Since then my my favorite band has swiched to Metallica's biggist rival, MEGADETH. So that just goes to show you that putting out a piece of **** you can lose avid fans.

[Shadows]

This album has gotton a hell of a lot of attention as well as selling quite a few records. There is still talk about it, even now, so in the commercial world the album gets a 4/5. But there's no getting around that Lars's drums are awful, they tuned to drop C and quit soloing, and Hetfield had some of the worst vocals/lyrics ever. For these reasons, I give it a 1/5.

[Aberrationbass]

this guy was way off about Hetfields voice hes always in Key on that album......

[Chu]

Before this pice of **** came out Metallica was my favorite band. Since then my my favorite band has swiched to Metallica's biggist rival, MEGADETH. So that just goes to show you that putting out a piece of **** you can lose avid fans.
Or maybe you weren't really an avid fan, either way...

[Chu]

3/5

Much better than Load or Reload, all though I didn't like the fact that they had no solos, James' voice was weird and the drums sounded like ****
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[manuscriptreplica]

Everyone get over the fact that the drums sound bad, many great albums have poor production, and I don't hear them whinging about the drums, stop being such Metallica fanboys and listen to music outside the mainstream for a change

[ledstairway]

I'm glad theyre back, but it simply aint as good as it used to be, why would you wanna listen to st anger when theres ride the lightning master of puppets and the black album?
The drums get on my nerves, they sound very tinny and the guitars are a bit off but i can live with that, a solo woulda been nice though

[Sendor]

With the whole solos thing, they did add in solos after all the songs were done but they sounded just like that, an afterthought, like they'd just been tacked on for aesthetics.

[Neoteric]

I'm one of the few who liked this album. At least they're trying something new and the production for RTL & KTA wasn't that great either.

[superpeer]

This album isn't as bad as everyone says. 3/5

It's not great, but it's ok.

[superpeer]

Worst Metallica cd I've heard.
Nonetheless 3/5

Seems like I've already said that. :lol:

[8-Track Punk]

their time is simply over, you cant expect a band to make great music for over 20 years. In my mind they just wanted their music to stay relevant with the period.

Hey sting-ray... one word. Ramones.

[jade75X]

Thought Lar's drumming was good but they were slacking on the guitar with the lack of guitar solos it was mostly just wanking off

[Metaltreadzica]

i wouldnt go as far to say metallica worst album there were remember load of crap and reload of crap which metallica did "sell out" in St anger its a new song with a Drop D 2000s sound which isnt metallica best stuff but this album is a new style with heavy bass licks and mad lyrics overal buying it is worth it because metallica is one of the best bands ever

[unclebobscircus]

Metallica hasn't put out a good album since 91 or so.

/personalopinion

[mprules]

Thought Lar's drumming was good

nah he was trying to be better than he is, and it just sounded like ****

[Det_Nosnip]

KILL, KILL, KILL, KILL, KILL, KILL, KILL, KILL

:lol: :lol: When I heard that the first time, I just had to crack up. Definetly the worst offering from a disgustingly washed up band.

[OldMetallicaMusic]

hahahahaha i love your review man....anywho to the cd i have read only this page but so far i can tell most ppl who have reviewed this cd are inexerienced morons who pretend to know stuff about music(im not pretending to i dont know anything but my own opinion).

anyway someone said the drums sucked thats because the snare was sooooo low it sounded like trash cans umm poeple keep saying kirk neede more solos well you see its verry difficult to write a solo and they didnt spend too much time on this album because james just got out of rehab. anyhwo in my opinion all of their stuff is awsome the new cd isnt my style and it isnt metallicas however they do what they want and the fan i am i support them its not like its horrible music. in fact compared to most metal out there st anger was great.

someone said they had the guitars turned down too low? moron its the distortion and tuning they used a completely different distortion than noraml. umm lets see bass is fine the new bassist rob is great in concert(not from experience but my best friend toured with them last summer in wich they rarely played st anger stuff) he has energy and plays well.

i personally think the reason for the low quality of st anger was becasue they all kinda just got all cleaned up and needed something to fall back on also part of it was the producer of the albums fault.
coments on their old stuff i like most of their stuff equally Favorite album by them is S&M but favorite song is call of the ktulu wich is on S&M and Ride the Lightning :naughty:

Now you mentioned that it is very hard to come up with solos and they didnt have very much time, but if you knew anything about Metallica you would know that Kirk can make up solos very easily. He said in their movie one and a half years that he jams at night and makes them up right there. He also mentions that his solos come from any thing that sounds like it would go good with the song they are writing. I know the fact that James had just came out of rehab before they made St. Anger but his voice makes me cringe, and James what happened to the genius lyrics, if you listen to the older stuff compared to the new stuff as far as im concerned the new stuff sucks, really anything from the past decade hasnt been that great expect for S&M. Lars snare sounds like crap, I started to like Rob more after I saw Metallica in concert but I still think Cliff was GOD on bass. :thumb:

[drum_player4life1]

......Ummmmmm no........



Alex

[Knifeboy]

I find it quite humourus how the band compared this to Meshuggah before its release

[Jom]

I find it quite humourus how the band compared this to Meshuggah before its release

:eek: no way... are you serious?!

[Knifeboy]

:eek: no way... are you serious?!

I'm pretty sure there was alot of articles about this before St. Angers release

[manuscriptreplica]

I find it quite humourus how the band compared this to Meshuggah before its release

So Metallica said themselves that it was like Meshuggah? Holy moley

[Jom]

I'm pretty sure there was alot of articles about this before St. Angers release

I'm sorry, I missed the article. Forgive me, but that was news to me.

So Metallica said themselves that it was like Meshuggah? Holy moley

Yeah, that's what I thought he meant... that's why it's news to me.

[I'mhungryForASandwich]

Metallica wanted to make a nu-metal album, and I think they did a good job. Of course all their other albums were better though...

[I'mhungryForASandwich]

Master of puppets and S&M rocks

[Fuddmeister]

A return to form...

I gotta say I'm surprised so many people hate this album. So the snare drum sound is 'different', some of the lyrics are a bit crap, theres no solos and it's under produced. But for me it's their best effort since master of puppets in 1986. Metallica were my favourite band back then. Then Justice for all came out and it became clear that the band were going a bit soft and commercial. The black album on it's own was pretty good but it was nothing new. It was made to sell and that's what it did but there was none of the spark or aggression or the '**** em all and ****in no regrets' attitude of the first three albums.
Lots of airtime, sold out stadium tours and MTV appearances came in the 1990's but they had become a tired old band with few new ideas. All the original fans were buying Machine Head and Pantera cd's instead.
As for load and reload - just four millionaires going about their day job. The band had become everything they were against in the early days. The napster case confirmed this.
Now in 2004 we've got a new sound, a new bassist and a new James Hetfield. No guitar solos? I didn't even notice until the third or fourth listen and besides, what does Kirk have to prove. I'm sure the barely produced sound annoys some people but, if like me, you prefer to see a band live showing what they can really do without the overdubs and guest musicians etc then this a breath of fresh air. I almost prefer listening to the DVD for this reason.
As for this being a nu-metal album - bollox. Its an evolution of how they sounded in the 80's - it's fresh, it's heavy and it sounds like they're playing music for themselves again and not for MTV or radio. Respect to them for doing that.
Some of the lyrics are a bit cheesy and some of the tracks drag on a bit so I'll give it a 4.5/5 but I've no doubt that this one of their greatest. And when the newer fans say they hate it then that can only be a good thing.

[Scott Herren]

A 4.5/5 for an underproduced album with no solos, crap lyrics, songs that drag on, and trashcan drums? I know some people cum at the mention of the name "Metallica", but a 4.5 is great outside the genre, and from the sound of things, it's not a great album even within the genre.

[Fuddmeister]

Under produced and no solos can be a good thing. Ever heard an album called Nevermind?

[Scott Herren]

Nope.

[Iai]

Under produced and no solos can be a good thing. Ever heard an album called Nevermind?
Yes, and it's a terrible album. Not to mention an over-produced one that quite obviously DOES feature guitar solos.

[manuscriptreplica]

What has Kirk got to prove? Nothing, you're right, but so what, does that mean he can't put a solo or two in the songs? When I saw them live, they played Dirty Window and Frantic with a couple of solos, they sounded great

[punkster998]

I have to admit, I thought it was a pitiful album was well. Old Metallica kicks way more ***.

[Iron Man]

A song by song description would have been nice...to laugh at :upset:

[deathdrummer666]

I thought St. Anger was a great album. Yesh there needed to be solos but if you look past that it wasn't al that bad. As a musician I give this album a god review. It sounds from the posts that I am in good company. This album was better than everybody gave it credit for. I can't belive people are bringing them down because of St. Anger. They are an awesome band and even better live. I give it a 4/5. True it is not in the original tradition of Master of Puppets and RTL but I liked it. Good songs.

[Knoxvillelives]

Yes, and it's a terrible album. Not to mention an over-produced one that quite obviously DOES feature guitar solos.

Agreed. What was that guy talking about?
I'm with you on this, this album is far better than Nevermind IMO

[Iai]

I think comparing this album to Nevermind is a bit like the Special Olympics.

[The JoZ]

Yes, and it's a terrible album. Not to mention an over-produced one that quite obviously DOES feature guitar solos.

If you call playing vocal melodies on guitar solos, then yes.

[Iai]

If you call playing vocal melodies on guitar solos, then yes.
And I do.

[The JoZ]

And I do.

I call it a cop out.

[Knoxvillelives]

I think comparing this album to Nevermind is a bit like the Special Olympics.

???
I'll take that as a compliment, assuming you were talking to me, also assuming you were calling me special.






Hey wait a minute!

[Iai]

I call it a cop out.
In that case, I call it both.

[Iai]

???
I'll take that as a compliment, assuming you were talking to me, also assuming you were calling me special.

Hey wait a minute!
Heh, it wasn't you I was calling 'special', it was Nevermind and St. Anger. As in, a competition between the two is like the Special Olympics.

[Knoxvillelives]

Oh that's Ok then.

I am pretty special though