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hybridofsound
11-16-2003, 02:19 AM
Artist: Deftones
Album: White Pony
Chino Moreno - Vocals, Guitar
Abe Cunningham - Drums
Chi Cheng - Bass
Frank Delgado - Turntables
Stephen Carpenter - Strings
Released: Maverick Records
Favourite songs:
Digital Bath
Knife Prty
Passenger
Change

The Sacremento band 'Deftones' have consistently pushed the boundries of their genre. Highly respected as a 'credible' nu-metal band it isn't hard to see why. The five started jamming in the early 90's. One of the members was involved in a car accident, sued those responsible and made himself some healthy cash which turned into some good quality equipment for the band. The last two albums leading to White Pony sound nothing like this. 'Adreniline' The first was a hardcore metal album while 'Around The Fur' still had it's hard edge but pushed a unique melodic edge. Now to White Pony. (This is the 2nd release i'm reviewing)

Back to School - A high pitched guitar riff starts this song before Chino yells 'So run'. This is a unique Deftones song. It manages to be Nu-Metal but pull off a mature edge. Good song.

Felticeira - A freaky story of a man being kidnapped by a woman. You can actually imagine the story in your mind as you listen to the music. It has a freaky tinge to it and Chino pulls off the vocals well.

Digital Bath - One of the best songs on the album. Chino puts 110% into this song and it pays off. It's emotional and yet beautiful. A song which really moves you.

Elite - Here is the hardest song on the album. It's one that would fit on any previous Deftones album. It's certanely a good song.

Rx Queen - Here's another great song. It keeps a harder edge musically but Chino's vocals really make it great.

Street Carp - This is one of the most catchy songs on the album. The chorus will stick in your head. It's a song quite alot like Rx Queen hard musically but made great by Chino's vocals.

Teenager - Frank utilises his unique turntablism skills on this song and instead like other nu-metal djs he uses the turntables to create atmosphere instead of scratching. This is a pretty sounding song.

Knife Prty - One of my favourites. Simply a song about a knife but a mysterious and beautiful song. It really has an atmosphere to it this song and a suspense which only the Deftones can create.

Korea - This is one of the heavier songs on the album and still Chino pulls off a great preformance with another cathcy chorus. The lyrics are very open to interpretation here ('Right time cavity to come in downtown pony work your pitch' is a line from the chorus).

Passenger - The thing about White Pony is many of it's songs are stories and Chino can make you imagine if your in them. Passenger is the most powerful story song. Simply about riding in a car but it's a beautiful song and filled with the emotion which makes White Pony a great album.

Change (In the house of flies) - The first single off this album this was the song which made me have to buy this album. It's incredible. The emotion, chorus, music is all fantastic. It's a song where everything comes together to give you an experience.

Pink Maggit - Mysterious sounding, it's a very slow song with no drums and just vocals, guitar and turntables. It's a very mellow way to end the album and it's a suprisingly strong track.

Well if you like your metal hard this album wont be for you but it's a fantastic album. It's filled with emotion and fantastic lyrics. One of the best albums of 2001 for sure. Few bands can make such a powerful album plus the enhanced cd comes with a kick-ass packman style game and lots of other features.

Rating: 5/5 :thumb:

behemoth
11-22-2003, 03:12 AM
Passenger has Maynard from Tool on guest vocals. Its an incredible track :D

Moroii
11-23-2003, 06:34 AM
White Pony is one of the coolest albums ever and you are one of the coolest people ever for reviewing it. :thumb: Not to mention the review is dead on.
I wonder why they left Boy's Republic of the album though?

Scythe404
11-28-2003, 10:23 PM
I disagree. I dont think this is Metal. A couple songs are heavy, but its hard rock at most. This is definitely a great album and is one of the few where there are NO tracks i dislike.

epifreak2002
12-07-2003, 09:51 PM
I'd like to note that this album takes some serious grow time, though. When I first heard Change on the radio (one of two times b/c my only radio station sucks), I hated it. The next time, like six months later, it wasn't bad, so I bought the album. I thought it was so-so, and soon filed it into my cd collection and forgot about it. Another six or so months passes and I popped it in and absolutely fell in love with it. It's now made it into my permanent playlist. So:
First impression: 1.5/5
A little time later: 2.5/5
Give it a year: 5/5

axeslinga_32
12-08-2003, 12:24 AM
^^^^ i agree completely, it was one of those albums that you have to have an open mind with, and it will grow on you. but albums like that are usually the ones that you end up liking the most

hybridofsound
12-08-2003, 02:22 AM
^ That's odd, the first time I popped this cd in I just loved it straight off though I understand what you mean by the best cds grow on you.

Blanka Flip
01-05-2004, 04:43 PM
its crap.

Blanka Flip
01-05-2004, 04:48 PM
^^
sorry, that was a little un called for. Its ok i suppose, and it can grow on you...But...I would really recommend getting something else besides this cd

lethal dose
01-24-2004, 11:19 AM
i totally agree. i bought this cd as soon as it came out. I eventually lost it, but i liked it so much i bought another one.

fincustank87
01-25-2004, 10:43 AM
yea this cd is gr8. deftones is hands down fawkin awesome. metal/hard rockers i would recomend this cd. i havent herd it in a while but i used 2 listen 2 like the whole cd so i dont think it would require the use of a skip button....which is y i'm gunna give it a 5/5 :thumb:

EonBlueApcolyps
01-25-2004, 05:28 PM
its a pretty good album. self titled is one of my favorites

(>dragon~guitarist<)
01-25-2004, 09:48 PM
wow I really should buy this one, I bought their self titled one, its decent at most. Unless it has to grow on you too like White Pony?

epifreak2002
01-25-2004, 10:13 PM
I dunno, I bought their self-titled album and thought I didn't like it, until I realized that it literally hadn't left my player for 2 weeks straight. Make of that what you will, I guess.

spnut
01-29-2004, 12:36 PM
White Pony is just amazing, Knife Party would have to be my favourite song on it.
In response to Moroii, I know exactly what you mean, why the hell is it not on the album?! It has to be one of Deftones greatest songs.

xeonman9000
03-08-2004, 04:29 PM
It has a proggresive feel to it I think, especially knife party and a bit of passenger, digital bath is an awesome song.

Fender_Strat8915
03-11-2004, 05:32 PM
can u say kick *** 5/5

lethal dose
03-14-2004, 11:22 AM
White Pony is one of the coolest albums ever and you are one of the coolest people ever for reviewing it. :thumb: Not to mention the review is dead on.
I wonder why they left Boy's Republic of the album though?
the boys republic was on the white pony, i believe..............becuase when it was first released they had a red cover a black cover and the silver cover.....the red and black were limited edition with the boys republic on them

br3ad_man
07-06-2004, 05:12 AM
This album pwns so much. People who say the Deftones are nu-metal are ignorant. Very good album.

dancinwithducks
07-07-2004, 08:41 PM
good review :thumb: ummm one of my fav. albums by the best F**k!n band ever...every album their music is different/better than their last...you all are right..for most people it has to 'grow' on you...but it's worth the wait...great album..great reveiw...peace

omica
07-07-2004, 08:49 PM
i didnt like it much at all. i gave it a few listens and was jsut like ****. **** this ****. maybe because the hype my friend gave me of them sayingt hey were so great and ****, but i just tought it was utter crap.

Mekkalayakay
12-18-2004, 01:54 AM
I thought I posted in here...


I love this album. I don't know if it's the producing, or the weird mixing with Chino's voice, but I love the feeling and sound I get from this album. I guess you could call it atmospheric, but I don't think that's the word I'm looking for.

Zefiris
12-18-2004, 05:02 AM
Passenger is about having sex in the car, not just riding in the car. But I guess a great story song nonetheless?

Happymeal
12-18-2004, 07:36 AM
This was one of my favorite albums 2 years ago. I still listen to it occasionally and I though this is better than their S/T

funky_penguin3
12-18-2004, 09:33 AM
I listen to it sometimes. Digital Bath is my favourite track on it.

Dancin' Man
12-18-2004, 09:48 AM
This is really a great album. It appeals to the masses and the more musically picky.

Adam Jones is GOD
12-18-2004, 05:44 PM
I spent months saving and looking for this album, and its still up there with my 5 favourite of all time.

Passenger was also my gateway to Tool, so I owe this album my life

dirge for november
12-18-2004, 07:10 PM
yar, i love digital bath. i should buy this album (i have a burned copy and i wanna give em some credit for their work) nice review too. i would give it a 5/5 aswell :thumb:

Scythe404
12-18-2004, 07:18 PM
One of my favorite albums. Can't spot a flaw in it. It's a sure Classic.

5/5

40 oz 2 freedom
12-19-2004, 01:59 AM
Amazing album.

I had the chance to see them live a couple of months ago, and it was one of the best shows I have seen.

thesheriff
12-20-2004, 09:31 PM
This is probably the Deftones second best album....behind ATF. It's also probably the most beautiful and experimental one.

And BTW, the song Knife Prty isn't about a knife, it's about a shooting gallery. IN the beginning of the song, Chino says, "my knife, it's sharp and chrome". A chrome knife is another name for a syringe. The words "come see inside my bones" are referring to injecting yourself using a needle, and "I can float here forever" is referring to being high on drugs.

BTW, White Pony is a grade of Cocaine.

ticks_&_leeches
12-20-2004, 10:07 PM
I like the album alot. Passenger kicks so much ***. Maynard is a vocal god.

Adam Jones is GOD
12-21-2004, 10:29 AM
This is probably the Deftones second best album....behind ATF. It's also probably the most beautiful and experimental one.

And BTW, the song Knife Prty isn't about a knife, it's about a shooting gallery. IN the beginning of the song, Chino says, "my knife, it's sharp and chrome". A chrome knife is another name for a syringe. The words "come see inside my bones" are referring to injecting yourself using a needle, and "I can float here forever" is referring to being high on drugs.

BTW, White Pony is a grade of Cocaine.

its actually (in Chino's words) about a drunken night on the tour bus, where various members and roadies were randomly storming around parading knives.

I remeber hearing this a few years ago, and it stuck in my memory for being one of the weirdest inspirations for a song. Although any interpretaion for a song that is positive is a good one, li......wait, this isn't tool lyrics.

But it applies for all lyrics in general i say.

cant even breathe
12-24-2004, 12:31 AM
its actually (in Chino's words) about a drunken night on the tour bus, where various members and roadies were randomly storming around parading knives.

I remeber hearing this a few years ago, and it stuck in my memory for being one of the weirdest inspirations for a song. Although any interpretaion for a song that is positive is a good one, li......wait, this isn't tool lyrics.

But it applies for all lyrics in general i say.


If you want to get even more anal about, haha, it's actually about Abe's knife collection when they were on the tour bus. But yeah man it's all good. Deftones are my favorite band of all time. I love all their s.hit, it's amazing :thumb:

Jom
12-24-2004, 03:12 PM
This is my favorite album from them, but all of their studio albums are indeed excellent...

... but God, do they blow live. Distortion++ and Chino's vocals live are a cacophony of awfulness.

40 oz 2 freedom
12-24-2004, 03:15 PM
I disagree. They were one of the best shows I've been to.

Kage
12-24-2004, 04:05 PM
Amazing album, this is the album that got me into the band that is now my favorite band of all time. It's Deftones, just for the sake of clarity.

And they are so awesome live, I've seen them twice and they were progressively better shows. The thing is, Deftones could blow a performance (although they usually don't), but there's this aura around them and it's just amazing.

KappaKid17
12-24-2004, 05:19 PM
^^ True, true. A Deftones show is amazing. I've seen 'em 3 times.

White Pony is them at their best. I think the band missed the heavy overtones of Around the Fur, explored on White Pony, but tried returning back to heavier form on their self titled. I wish they'd further experiment with what they began with on White Pony. Maybe the new album will be a conglomeration of White Pony and the Self Titled disc.

Great review. Great album.

Adam Jones is GOD
12-26-2004, 10:37 AM
This is my favorite album from them, but all of their studio albums are indeed excellent...

... but God, do they blow live. Distortion++ and Chino's vocals live are a cacophony of awfulness.

Im guessing there's a good chance you are refering to the Wembley Arena show. If so, that one was the biggest case of 'sound guy should be fired or probably it was his last day' situation. Even then, Chino and co still put on a good show, even if the sound was terrible

+zero+
12-26-2004, 11:17 AM
i was just listening to the selftitled, then i started listening to adrenaline and was ginna listen to white pony bu i woke up.. ide say my favorite songs are kinfe party, feiticeiria,digital bath, street carp,and the boys republic. thats like the whole cd i mean all the songs are good just i like these the most

KappaKid17
12-26-2004, 03:41 PM
Im guessing there's a good chance you are refering to the Wembley Arena show. If so, that one was the biggest case of 'sound guy should be fired or probably it was his last day' situation. Even then, Chino and co still put on a good show, even if the sound was terrible

The last time I saw them was while Chino was having major vocal problems. His throat was swollen, couldn't put himself up to screaming which, mind you, is about 65% of their songs. Needless to say, I was a bit disappointed.

Lumiere
12-26-2004, 05:02 PM
Chino's voice is ****ed up beyond repair at this stage. He is now FORCED to sing properly - certainly not his strongest point.

Which is probably why their eponymous record sucked so bad.

Jom
12-26-2004, 05:45 PM
I'd like to clarify.

The past two times I saw them (Summer Sanitarium 2003, most notably), Chino was having bleeding vocal cords (chords?) and a swollen throat (as was pointed out by SubtleDagger, which I was unaware of).

It's just that the show I went to was on July 4th, which was the first date of said tour, and I figured he would be able to get through, but he was abysmal... and the distortion... gg. It was a headache. I was almost thrilled when Limp Bizkit came out

/is kidding, I would NEVER say that :p

thesheriff
12-28-2004, 04:11 PM
I disagree. They were one of the best shows I've been to.

I've seen footage of them live, but I've never been to one of there shows. I saw a video of them doing Digital Bath, and it was absolutely terrible. I also saw them do "Change" on Letterman, and that wasn't anytihng special either. On the other hand, I've seen videos of Feitciera, My Own Summer, and Lotion (My favorite Tones song) and they were absolutely jaw-dropping.

Mozzletoffed
12-28-2004, 05:42 PM
back to school is cool

*rhyme*