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With Thrice about to embark on their final tour and Thursday just having finished up their last shows, post-hardcore, in the terms of what originally attracted me to the genre, is dead. That’s not to say that a vibrant new community hasn’t sprung up out of the underground to replace it in the burgeoning screamo scene, or that this is the first time it has died as a similar comparison can be made of Fugazi’ and At the Drive-In’s demise after their reign as genre kings throughout the 1990’s, but certainly the aged scene which many of us were once attracted to in some way or another has reached it’s end. These two bands, besides having seemingly parallel careers and similar starting names, were in many ways the pulse of a generation of kids in the early and mid-2000’s. One doesn’t have to go far to see the influence, good and bad, that these bands have had. Sure, they are in part responsible for what Warped Tour has become over the last few years, which is dubious at best, but they never sunk into that mess themselves. After both redefining the style with Illusion of Safety and Full Collapse respectively, and then finding commercial success with releases on Island records, they continued to push themselves forward and both got themselves dropped from their labels for not sacrificing their own vision. There was no cash in. Thrice spent their advances on building and maintaining their home studio and Thursday got dealt the weaker hand with members not only having to worry about their next album but where they would sleep the night as well. In the end it resulted in what could arguably be considered some of the finest releases in their careers with Major Minor and No Devolucion. It’s sad to see them go, but both went out not only on a high note, but with their integrity still in tact.

With the scene kids migrating almost solely to the metalcore side of the spectrum and the third generation of copycats being more akin to 80’s cock rock than anything that resembles punk aesthetic, Thrice and Thursday managed to hold fast to their original fan base by growing with them. As the new rebirth of the post-hardcore indie-verse ushers in their time to shine, there is a whole lot of former scene kids in their twenties who are finally ready to bookend their teenage memories.





Xenophanes
03.21.12
I have no doubt redsky wrote this

"Sure, they are in part responsible for what Warped Tour has become over the last few years,"

this

Activista anti-MTV
03.21.12
Thrice and Thursday... craziness

Trebor.
03.21.12
More like end of an error

Inveigh
03.21.12
thought this was gonna be about BigHans

good read though anyways

Trebor.
03.21.12
i hope Geoff Rickly starts a badass project

BallsToTheWall
03.21.12
Thrice has been dead to me for about 5 years so i'm indifferent to this.

Adabelle
03.21.12
Monster paragraph.

Never really got into either band but I take your point...

Inveigh
03.21.12
I remember getting into The Illusion of Safety right around the time I got into Relationship of Command

life as a 15/16 year old was never the same

auberginedreams
03.21.12
full collapse was alright but i could never really get into either band, and neither of them could really be called post-hardcore by the end of their careers anyway. still, RIP.

auberginedreams
03.21.12
that being said, i do like geoff's other project, united nations.

static2dope
03.21.12
"i hope Geoff Rickly starts a badass project"

united nations

was hoping this would be about hopesfall. but that wouldn't make any sense so

MO
03.21.12
similar to how he writes his reviews nowadays, one big paragraph and a conclusion

KeyMasta
03.21.12
FANBOY alert! I doubt this chap would know post-hardcore if it feel from the sky in whatever hipster ass wannabe city he lives in! Study before you make "unsatisfactory" posts. Im new here guys, but I WONT stand for this lack of knowledge!

fish.
03.21.12
what part of 'hiatus' does no one understand

AggravatedYeti
03.21.12
loved this.

theacademy
03.21.12
i love how every staff post is unsigned now

BallsToTheWall
03.21.12
Fuck Thrice and fuck this article, replace everything with the real "end of an era" with Tebow's departure to N.Y.

theacademy
03.21.12
"Sure, they are in part responsible for what Warped Tour has become over the last few years, which is dubious at best,"

why did Xeno "this" this... it reads to me like a dubious use of the word 'dubious'

'dubious at best' is kinda insufficient as a cricitism of warped tour bc its too vague... what about warped tour is 'dubious' ...

clercqie
03.21.12
Never really cared about Thrice's older work. Beggars is the best record. Still anxious to go see them in April

Funeralopolis
03.21.12
we still have letlive

Nikkolae
03.21.12
"Im new here guys,"

and there for no one will listen to you, welcome to sputnik now foad.

good article whoever wrote this.

Hyperion1001
03.21.12
RIP HANS

Inveigh
03.21.12
^there it is!

theacademy
03.21.12
lol'd

Athom
03.21.12
hey keymasta, shut your fucking craw. do you want to go to shit like Shellac, Jawbox and Unwound? or the Frodus, These Arms are Snakes, Hot Snakes, Drive Like Yehu kind. fucking tool.

Funeralopolis
03.21.12
he simply will not tolerate your shit

AsoTamaki
03.21.12
I knew this was a redsky article because of the length and the use of "hold fast" just like in the Meshuggah review. He likes using Thrice song titles. It's clever here.

Athom
03.21.12
Actually I'm just a one trick pony and people are finally catching on after all these years.

MO
03.21.12
if it feel from the sky

AsoTamaki
03.21.12
Where idols once stood...

Activista anti-MTV
03.21.12
Thrice fucking slays... you guys are faggots

Acanthus
03.21.12
Never got into either of these, interested to see where things progress from here.

wacknizzle
03.21.12
Nice write-up redsky I def agree with THAT era being dead but post-hardcore ain't completely dead. There's still bands like Letlive, Glassjaw, La Dispute, Touche Amore, Defeater, Pianos Become The Teeth keeping it alive, just Thice and my beloved Thursday are gone.

Activista anti-MTV
03.21.12
Thursday wrote more than enough depressing songs for this movie score...

Funeralopolis
03.21.12
I own like half of Thursday's discography cus the entire thing was at a thrift store for a dollar per cd but I never really listened to them lol

wacknizzle
03.21.12
Listen to em funeral. If you can't dig full collapse try War All The Time, Common Existence or No Devolucion, their fucking great.

Activista anti-MTV
03.21.12
Great band

pornogratherapy
03.21.12
I must see thrice one more time

Athom
03.21.12
I basically said that era was dead. I said post hardcore died then it came back and then it died and then it came back again. I even mentioned that there's a new generation to take their place just like how they took the place of the 90s bands...

wabbit
03.21.12
"letlive, Glassjaw, La Dispute, Touche Amore, Defeater, Pianos Become The Teeth"

when did post-hardcore turn into who can be the whinier bitch? I guess thursday is alright (I get why people like thrice but I don't like it) but the genre is dying because the vast majority of people making "modern post-hardcore" are shitty uncreative boring artists.

Like if you compare this "letlive, Glassjaw, La Dispute, Touche Amore, Defeater, Pianos Become The Teeth" to a list of the big players in '90 the guys from the 90's are simply better at making interesting innovative art.


Relicanth
03.21.12
hopesfall

Inveigh
03.22.12
lol fanboy alert

DoubtGin
03.22.12
wonarabbit.

auberginedreams
03.22.12
wonarabbit getting mad itt. post-hardcore has always been emotional, and honestly i feel like the post-hardcore/screamo scene in a great place right now creatively, most of those bands (other than maybe la dispute, pianos become the teeth and touche amore) really don't even sound anything like each other, so you can't really group them all together.

auberginedreams
03.22.12
*is in a great place

Hyperion1001
03.22.12
rip hans

ABlandLife
03.22.12
true story. couldn't agree with you anymore. luckily letlive. and gJ are keeping it around, but I fear for the future. emery, funeral for a friend, silverstein, and senses fail are still keeping it alive as well, but from a different angle.

Athom
03.22.12
my question is since when is defeater a post hardcore band. lol

auberginedreams
03.22.12
yeah i was wondering that too.

Ire
03.22.12
"thought this was gonna be about BigHans

good read though anyways"

lol this

MeatSalad
03.22.12
Apparently I need to check out Thursday some time.

dimsim3478
03.22.12
PH isn't dead but we're at an end of an era, definitely.

Mordecai.
03.22.12
nice read redsky. gonna miss these bands hard.

Irving
03.22.12
Confession: I've never truly listened to either band. I know a few songs here and there but that's it.

IRVING Y U NO SPUTNIK ENUF?!?!?!!!

Tyrael
03.22.12
I'm glad they're gone

but hey great write-up crysis

Tyrael
03.22.12
em I meant *redksy*

excuse me

Activista anti-MTV
03.22.12
jamming out to fugazi and atdi

dimsim3478
03.23.12
"IRVING Y U NO SPUTNIK ENUF?!?!?!!!"

It's actually more like "IRVING Y U NO HARDCORE, PUSSY?!?!?!!!".

Spec
03.23.12
Earned Runs Average?

eonbluekarma
03.25.12
Anyone going to ? Shit is sold out. Wish I could get a ticket.

Athom
03.25.12
andcas missed the point of the usage completely lol

Hep Kat
03.25.12
dude why does any of this even matter in a world where at the drive-in is a thing you can witness again

Athom
03.25.12
because i dont have 350 dollars

Hep Kat
03.25.12
oh yeah well im sure they'll tour besides you live in cali you get all the good shows

auberginedreams
03.26.12
yeah but the bled are more metalcore. still a great band though.

Gyromania
03.27.12
"and there for no one will listen to you"

lol, wow.

spillingmercury
03.29.12
Kind of funny reading this, since Geoff said something along these lines at the NJ concert. I don't even remember exactly what it was, but I'm pretty sure he was talking how the punk scene was changing and how Warped Tour blows and how bands like Touche Amore were keeping it real and shit.

TheFonz123
03.30.12
whenever I listen to emerys in "shallow seas we sail" i'm basically reminded that this essay is true

Aids
04.03.12
after years of feeling more or less indifferent towards Thursday, I'm starting to really like them, or at least their last album. "Stay True" is one of the best album closers I've ever heard. and yeah RIP Thrice, one of the bands that started my obsession with music.

and hey look it's Miles being Miles.

SCREAMorphine
04.07.12
Saw Thursday on one of their last shows, one of the best shows I've ever been to..

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