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Here at Sputnikmusic we have an unwritten editorial rule not to get involved in politics (at least as much that’s enforceable on a site staffed mainly by college-age pinkos) so I’m going to more or less throw this out without making reference to left or right, conservative or liberal.

Hell, I’m not even American – I couldn’t really give a shit what Congress does so long as it doesn’t show up on my doorstep.

However, I find something profoundly odd in ‘The Sarah Palin Battle Hymn,’ and it’s more than what musicologists often refer to “just being self-evidently dreadful.” It’s the myopic adulation of a popular political figure – in this case the lovely Ms. Palin – and her elevation to almost prophet-like status in its lyrics. This is made implicit by the choice of music: it’s a countried-up variation on ‘Battle Hymn of the Republic‘ (often known as ‘Glory, Glory Hallelujah), a Messianic patriot song from the American Civil War, now popularly used in religious services as well as Presidential inaugurations.

It would be easy to view ‘The Sarah Palin Battle Hymn’ as the work of a couple of mad oldies in a church somewhere, but it raises the wider point of how music is often used to serve a particular party-political agenda, and whether this is really something that we want to see more of. Many were similarly uncomfortable when, prior to the 2008 Presidential election, will.i.am and a cast of left-leaning musicians put together ‘Yes We Can,’ an unabashed endorsement of Barack Obama setting segments of his speeches to a musical soundtrack.

We often use music to express our deepest convictions, but when that conviction is focused so entirely on one person the line between homage and hero-worship can become all too blurry. This can be a wonderful thing, as evidenced by affectionate (and moving) popular tributes such as ‘Alex Chilton‘ (the Replacements) and ‘Kevin Carter‘ (Manic Street Preachers). However, when the focus is on a particular political candidate, particularly a divisive and emotive one like Palin or Obama, there always seems to be a more sinister undertone – one that demands conformity to a particular point of view.

It would be easy to blow the importance of this issue out of the proportion – it is just two people singing in church, after all – but in an age when many decry the death of the protest singer, it’s a reminder that sometimes we should be careful what we wish for lest it actually happen.





mallen-
01.18.11
I can't believe people are still supporting her

cvlts
01.18.11
inb4... wait already beat to it.

ShadowRemains
01.18.11
lol what is this

SowingSeason
01.18.11
Sarah Palin is a complete idiot.

Hep Kat
01.18.11
yea the gop doesnt really have much to work with

Mordecai.
01.18.11
"Hell, I’m not even American"

please tell me you are Nicaraguan

Lucid
01.18.11
new ringtone

psykonaut
01.18.11
oh god lolol

Xenophanes
01.18.11
This is why I want to move to Canada...

eternium
01.18.11
Would be hilarious if she actually won the Republican nomination for president.

Acre
01.18.11
This is why I AM Canadian...

Acre
01.18.11
That, and I was born here...

FromDaHood
01.18.11
The US is silly but Canada is plain boring

Parallels
01.18.11
THATS IT. im suing sputnikmusic for having a bias. lol

Xenophanes
01.18.11
"Would be hilarious if she actually won the Republican nomination for president"

I would love that. Imagine how easy of a win that would be for sane people.

Parallels
01.18.11
imagine how hilarious xeno's response would be if it were serious

AlexTM510
01.18.11
I'm convinced the tea party has started up out of fear of a black man as our president.



Athom
01.18.11
http://i.imgur.com/teoDp.png

eternium
01.18.11
Not all of the tea party is racist. A lot of them are afraid of the socialist policies of our communist president.

Defeater
01.18.11
we need a welfare state

wait a minute

AlexTM510
01.18.11
I don't think so either-but its there =P

Athom
01.18.11
i find it ironic that so many of my more "conservative" friends will rail against hand outs and out everyone should just get a job and stop whining for free shit when they all live at home, have their parents pay for everything (including new cars, college, food, insurance) and have never worked an honest day in their lives.

Athom
01.18.11
about how*

Crisis
01.18.11
welcome to the world of the conservative Adam

Xenophanes
01.18.11
lol, yeah I know, I have friends just like that

Defeater
01.18.11
uh relying on family is completely different than relying on people you don't know

nice try though

Aids
01.18.11
this actually scared me

Athom
01.18.11
i dont care how you justify it. i just find it funny. anyways i've got a movie to catch. ta ta

DaveyBoy
01.18.11
Now that the political doors have been thrown wide open...

I like how Americans say this, that & the other about politics... Then, come voting day, because they don't legally have to wote, they don't.

Enotron
01.18.11
to be fair, one's a voluntary relationship while the other isn't. but that applies to every single government function, so what are you going to do

AlexTM510
01.18.11
good article also, i think yea regardless what side you come from. the power of words should not be taken for granted. especially with the recent Tuscan shootings-however from what im seeing it wasn't politically driven (with him stll being a complete psycho)

still...something to watch out for.

Crisis
01.18.11
"Then, come voting day, because they don't legally have to vote, they don't."

This is truly America's biggest problem


eternium
01.18.11
Part of being a society is working together. So it is not "completely different" from relying on family. That's the entire point of civilization.

Satellite
01.18.11
if she's elected as our next president, i'm moving to canada.

Defeater
01.18.11
I don't like the extensive coverage of the Tuscan shooting, and more specifically the recovery of one individual out of hundreds of millions. I'm sorry, but I don't need a daily play-by-play of her rehabilitation. It's unlikely she'll even be able to serve after she's out of the hospital anyway.

Defeater
01.18.11
"Part of being a society is working together."

lol I love these kind of ideals

eternium
01.18.11
Davey, you should know that Americans that do talk about politics are the ones that vote whenever given the chance. The problem is Americans (especially young people) who don't give a damn and/or cannot comprehend what is going on.

Athom
01.18.11
Tucson is a city in Arizona. Tuscan is something from the central Italian region of Tuscany. Just thought you should know because misspelling Tucson makes ya'll look kinda dumb.

Defeater
01.18.11
grammar and semantics

the usual sputnik argument

eternium
01.18.11
Just making yourself look less intelligent with every post.

Defeater
01.18.11
I put one wrong vowel. The internet's about to come crashing down.

qwe3
01.18.11
2 completely different things

just semantics guys

Schizophrenik
01.18.11
"I don't like the extensive coverage of the Tuscan shooting, and more specifically the recovery of one individual out of hundreds of millions. I'm sorry, but I don't need a daily play-by-play of her rehabilitation. It's unlikely she'll even be able to serve after she's out of the hospital anyway."

Thank you

acADHDemy
01.18.11
i cant wait for eternium to show up in this thread

Schizophrenik
01.18.11
being from that area I should be ashamed for not catching that obvious spelling error

Defeater
01.18.11
yeah high schoolers that think they're above of the majority of the population both intellectually and philosophically is really innovative

AlexTM510
01.18.11
spelling error on my part= major fail of the day



eternium
01.18.11
"i cant wait for eternium to show up in this thread"

Little late to the party.

acADHDemy
01.18.11
i meant the real eternium... the one who gives me acne from all the facepalming i have to do when we talk politics.

krig9412
01.18.11
I never head this before, now that I have my only response is...



HAHA, (fucking old people)

eternium
01.18.11
If you say so.

Defeater
01.18.11
But BUT BUT my American History teacher tells me the truth!

Aids
01.18.11
"if she's elected as our next president, i'm moving to canada." it's not much better up here. Nothing would please our PM more than making Canada the 51st state. I mean it'd be a huge fucking state but he'd be cool with that I'm sure.

Retributionist82
01.18.11
*sigh* this is madness. .

ninjuice
01.18.11
Thank you for putting something about Obama right below that. People worshiped the guy like he's the effin Second Coming.

STOP SHOUTING!
01.18.11
i found it very moving. i'm gonna vote for sarah.

DrunkBishyBoshy
01.18.11
I'm always entertained by americans calling a Obama a communist. no idea of the meaning of the word!

JViney
01.18.11
When's the album out?

JJwins
01.18.11
hahahahaha thanks for posting this. just made my day

Grignard
01.18.11
This makes me more sad than it makes me laugh

ConsiderPhlebas
01.18.11
Sarah has the wisdom to walk through an open door

omnipanzer
01.18.11
Whatever dude, as long as she gets to keep spiting out episodes of that new reality series of her's life is good.

Motiv3
01.18.11
you guys are fucked if its president Palin in 2012.

Defeater
01.18.11
we're fucked regardless of who runs for president in 2012

america is declining

omnipanzer
01.18.11
your face is declining.

Defeater
01.18.11
just like your mother's natural lubrication

omnipanzer
01.18.11
*Blows whistle*
Yellow flag on the play
"Offsides"

Zion
01.19.11
You're all tools of political machines. INDEPENDENT FO LIFE.

JJwins
01.19.11
being an independent doesn't make you any better than a liberal or a conservative. Ideological identification isn't a problem, party affiliation is.

Athom
01.19.11
People basing their opinions on third rate information or no information at all is what the problem really is. I was talking to a friend of mine that claims to be a "Republican" the other day about the idea of health care repeal in the in House and when I asked her if she even knew what was in the health care bill that was passed she replied "nope". And that's the problems. All politicians are bought and sold, liars and cheats, that's how they managed to get the job in the first place, and cable news in the US is just two party platform points in FOX and MSNBC with CNN trying to stay out of it by asking people dumb enough to watch CNN to voice in on Twitter like 140 words by some backwoods bitch in Tennessee is in someway going to paint a clear picture about an event or policy decision. If you aren't taking the time to form your opinions based off of facts and are just relying on spin you have no place in taking part of political discourse. Simple as that.

This is not a rail against people in this thread so don't come at me with "oh yeah, well i get my facts from..." arguments. no one cares.

Athom
01.19.11
problem*

ConsiderPhlebas
01.20.11
She has nice boobs

BigTuna
01.20.11
God have mercy

acADHDemy
01.20.11
"and cable news in the US is just two party platform points in FOX and MSNBC with CNN trying to stay out of it. . . "

good thing cable TV (as we know it) won't make it to the 2016 election...

Zizzer
01.20.11
So many people here are claiming that Republicans and Democrats are both liars. You guys should check into Libertarianism. Read Ron Paul's book and such.

Athom
01.20.11
people know what libertarians are. but there's a difference between people entering their freshman year of college and getting into ron paul like you and actual libertarians that want a night watchman state and are currently trying to get people to move to new hampshire in an attempt to get political sway.

Satellite
01.20.11
ron paul omg get that shit the fuck out of here.

Zizzer
01.20.11
You don't know a thing about me. I've read his books, as well as a fuckton of literature from the Mises academy and other libertarian economics websites. I'm not some mindless person who gets sucked into whatever sounds flashy. I understand libertarianism and identify with its values.

Anyway, Ron Paul advocates individual liberty and government strictly limited by the Constitution as it was intended. Disagree with his policies if you must, but almost all revere him as an honest politician who doesn't have a voting record he has to hide. That's more than you can say about most politicians.

SeaAnemone
01.20.11
lol ron paul

I mean I went to a speech of his and know about him and I've seen Bruno and he has a few sensible ideas but
guys sorta an idiot

Satellite
01.20.11
no wonder why he gave the monitor a 3.

Satellite
01.20.11
plus he's a republican, not a libertarian.

Satellite
01.20.11
ron paul that is. sorry for the triple post.

Zizzer
01.20.11
I was referring to libertarian as in the ideology not the political party. If you would know anything about him you would know he has libertarian values and even ran on the libertarian ticket once. If you don't even know that much about him, you really shouldn't be calling him an idiot and such.

SeaAnemone
01.20.11
"I was referring to libertarian as in the ideology not the political party."

"[He] even ran on the libertarian ticket once."

ummmmm

Zizzer
01.20.11
And redsky, there are different types of libertarianism. What makes you call minarchism "true libertarianism" but not constitutional libertarianism?

Satellite
01.20.11
hey man if you want to throw your vote away, that's completely your prerogative.

Zizzer
01.20.11
Yes, the fact that he ran on the libertarian ticket once supports my claim that he demonstrates a libertarian IDEOLOGY.

Zizzer
01.20.11
The wasted vote thing used to bother me, but it might not be so wasted in the long run. The Republican Party is forsaking its core values more and more (most namely spurring on costly wars which was what the Democrats and progressives did in the past). Maybe if they realize the party is shrinking because of their new ways, they will not continue in that direction and change them. If that happens, my vote would not be completely wasted.

theacademy
01.20.11
"hey man if you want to throw your vote away, that's completely your prerogative."

lol like anyone's vote in the presidential election matters

Athom
01.20.11
the obvious thing is here is that you are a republican (by the gist of things a fiscal conservative. if you're part of the religious right go die in a fire. seriously.) and well, i want Finland's government. outside of a couple of things, i hate all your political dreams.

Satellite
01.20.11
well yeah, individual votes don't mean shit in the long run obviously. but at least the people who cast their votes for obama or mccain knew they were voting for someone with more than a snowball in hell's chance of winning.

it will always come down to choosing between the lesser of no more than two evils.

Zizzer
01.20.11
Plus whether I vote for a Republican or Democrat is going to be insignificant when I consider how close their views are going to be to each other compared to someone with more libertarian views. Either a Republican or a Democrat will almost assuredly be for leaving our troops in countries all over the world which costs $1 trillion+ annually and makes us less safe rather than more safe, and neither will make any serious move to address monetary reform. They'll probably quarrel over frivolous issues like earmarks, heated rhetoric, and whether government spending levels should be too high or even more too high. To someone who would like to see the change I would like to see, the difference between a typical Republican and a typical Democrat is minor.

Zizzer
01.20.11
Redsky, the Republican Party today is a pretty bad representation of my political views, and hell no I'm not a member of the religious right. Take gay marriage for example, why should the government have a say over marriage of any kind? The most basic way to sum up my political views is, let me do what I want (give me liberty) without hindrance from an overextended as long as that liberty does not infringe on the well-being of another. I don't see what's so ridiculous about that.

Zizzer
01.20.11
overextended government*

theacademy
01.20.11
"at least the people who cast their votes for obama or mccain knew they were voting for someone with more than a snowball in hell's chance of winning."

not if you're voting red in a blue state or vice-versa lol

Athom
01.20.11
@zizzer you made that sound so nice and pretty but you completely left out economic and foreign policy and that's what i care about. csb with all your if it doesnt infringe on the rights of others speech though.

nebuzad0
01.20.11
Wait...bros...can't we all agree that Linkin Park is awesome?

STOP SHOUTING!
01.20.11
well i appreciate all your arguments about libertarianism and conservatism, but i think i'll still vote for sarah. i have looked into it all and stuff and she's kind of sexy isn't she.

omnipanzer
01.20.11
Holy Poo Poo
TLDR

Zizzer
01.20.11
I think libertarian economic policies would be great for the economy... they're pretty similar to traditional conservative policies for the most part. I'll admit, I dismissed Ron Paul for the longest time simply because his foreign policy was so outlandish to anything I had heard before, but once I looked into it, it's a lot more like what the founders intended and makes a lot of sense. Usually in debates and interviews he only gets 15-30 seconds to explain himself, but his views are so different that they just sound ridiculous if he does get to expand on them. I know Glenn Beck can be annoying as hell and over the top a lot of times, but he gave Ron Paul an hour long interview on his show where Ron did almost all the talking and really got a good chance to explain himself. Here's the foreign policy bit (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28p_MHf-sdM).

I tihnk he makes a great point when he says, "The Al Queda does not have an army. They don't have a navy. They don't have intercontinental ballistic missiles. They don't have weapons of mass destruction. They don't have a country. They're very very weak people in that sense. But they have determination. That determination comes from being provoked and they have to have some reason to galvanize enough hatred to come here and do what they have done."

Al Queda has said again and again that they resent us because of our military occupation of countries all over the middle east. If we withdrew all of our troops and commited to a non-interventionist foreign policy, it would be much harder for them to recruit (their recruiting has skyrocketed since the Bush wars) and we would be safer... especially since those troops would be defending our own borders. My apologies if you're already familiar with all of this. There are too many people who don't understand the situation well and label Ron Paul as an isolationist so I had to be sure lol

FadeToBlack
01.20.11
do you really expect anyone to read that

Zizzer
01.20.11
And if you have doubts that cutting back on our military will make us less safe, this illustration should be reassuring (http://mises.org/images/3316/figure1.png). Especially since it's four years outdated and even more exaggerated now.

Zizzer
01.20.11
redsky probably will since it was addressed to him. How lazy do you have to be? It takes like 30 seconds lol. Anyway, I know these things generally lead to long discussions, but that's pretty much the extent of what I'm going to talk about politics here. If people disagree they disagree.

FadeToBlack
01.20.11
not lazy i just dont want to read some semi-intellectual mind poop

Athom
01.20.11
i completely disagree. i believe in regulation and social spending. agree on military cutbacks though.

Wolfhorde
01.20.11
Political discussions on Sputnik, hooray. Palin sucks at least as much as the German secretary of state. (Sidenote: He isn't able to speak halfways correct English)

awal16
01.20.11
Let's just agree that ronald paul is an idiot and move on.

as for the video, what can you expect from old people and their failing minds

Defeater
01.20.11
if you can't afford to feed other human beings maybe you shouldn't be fucking

but what do I know

Schizophrenik
01.21.11
"Al Queda has said again and again that they resent us because of our military occupation of countries all over the middle east"

That, and they're Islamic fundamentalists and hate everyone who doesn't follow the koran to the letter

JWT155
01.21.11
Such a moving song...

Zizzer
01.21.11
"That, and they're Islamic fundamentalists and hate everyone who doesn't follow the koran to the letter"

Which is why the 9/11 attacks were only focused on us and not all the other non-Islamic countries around the world? And why would their numbers skyrocket once we invade Afghanistan and Iraq if it were purely about us being non-Islamic? They've specifically cited our military presence there as their problem with us so why pretend like it's not about our foreign policy? You know, the United States used to have a great reputation in the Middle East.

Satellite
01.21.11
music website.

take that shit somewhere else man.

Dev518
01.21.11
Politics and pop culture should mix as much as politics and religion. People are stupid and often disregard policies and judge a candidate based on his/her status as a cultural icon instead. It's as if we are voting for our favorite actor or music artist instead of a head of state. I doubt that Obama or Palin would have any chance of being elected as president if the two weren't turned into such popular phenomenon.

Zizzer
01.21.11
That really bothers me too, and I think you're absolutely right about Obama and Palin.

JWT155
01.21.11
Song made me teary eyed

STOP SHOUTING!
01.21.11
i lived in bahrain for a year. it was like an american 51st state. the sheik and the whites were super rich from the oil. the locals were desperately poor. i can see why they would be angry.

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