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First of all, I added a new song to our nifty Track of the Day playlist over there on the right.  It’s “Wellington’s Wednesdays” from the new Weakerthans release, Live At The Burton Cummings Theatre.  John K. Samson pulls a random kid up from the crowd to play a solo in the middle of the song and he actually does pretty damn good.

Alright, onto pressing matters.  Here are some things that you guys need to stop doing:

1. Using the term “concept album” – You wouldn’t call a novel that tells a story a “concept book” would you?  No.  So why do we automatically throw the hideous term “concept album” onto any record that has themes or tells a story?  People are calling the new Titus Andronicus album a concept album for Christ’s sake.  Every album has connected themes, every song tells a story.  You know why people call vehicle prototypes “concept cars”?  Because they haven’t been fucking invented yet.

2. Using the term “pop-punk” – It’s not so much the term itself that bothers me, although it certainly does get on my nerves.  It’s the fact that it’s gained such a negative connotation (similar to how people used to use the word “emo” a few years ago) that people automatically hold something referred to as “pop-punk” to a much lower standard, as if something labelled as such can’t be better than a 3 or 3.5.   It’s especially annoying that the only thing that sets “pop-punk” albums apart from something that could be better labelled as “rock” is either the production, which is usually more polished, or lyrics dealing with relationships, usually in a juvenile sort of manner.

3. Ranking things – Lists have gotten pretty awful in general, but lists that rank things are the worst.  Unless you’re going to rank the top 50 albums from a certain year or every single song that a band has ever recorded, just don’t do it.  Does anybody want to know how you would rank the songs from a Dance Gavin Dance album?  Nope.  You would think that common sense would play a part here, but of course it never does.  Additionally, these “vs.” lists need to stop.  Dillinger Escape Plan vs. Circle Takes The Square vs. Converge?  More like Apathy vs. Indifferences vs. Who The Fuck Cares?

4. Saying “[adjective] [noun] is [same adjective]“ – This one reminds me of something that people used to say a lot on Sputnikmusic and to some degree still do.  If someone didn’t like an album they would say something like, “This album is so bad that I would rather stab myself in the eye than listen to it.”  It’s even better when they throw a “literally” in there, because that certainly lends more believability to the statement, right?  The reason it reminds me of that is because I have to try really hard not to say “Hey guys, when you say ‘bad album is bad’ it makes me want to take a syringe and shove it into my nipple.”  I can’t imagine how such a horrible meme was started, but I guess it’s not surprising given the current state of the Internet.

There are probably a lot more things too but that’s enough for now.  Give these things some consideration because I really do love you guys, which is why it’s hard for me to see you turning into such failures.  In closing, here’s an AIM excerpt:

GDandBlinkfan76 (12:12:48 AM): been thinkin about bein a porn star
GDandBlinkfan76 (12:12:51 AM): do you wanna be my manager
Soliquidis (12:12:59 AM): yes
Soliquidis (12:13:02 AM): i can do this
GDandBlinkfan76 (12:13:09 AM): hel yeah
Soliquidis (12:13:19 AM): take it off
Soliquidis (12:13:22 AM): all the time
Soliquidis (12:13:36 AM): put yourself out there
GDandBlinkfan76 (12:13:45 AM): anal is out
GDandBlinkfan76 (12:13:47 AM): black metal porn is in
GDandBlinkfan76 (12:13:55 AM): instead of corpse paint
GDandBlinkfan76 (12:13:59 AM): we will have actual corpses
GDandBlinkfan76 (12:14:02 AM): totally untapped market
Soliquidis (12:14:34 AM): are you willing to have someone poop into your butt?
GDandBlinkfan76 (12:14:45 AM): willing to do anything
Soliquidis (12:14:46 AM): you gotta spread far
GDandBlinkfan76 (12:14:48 AM): get my name out there
Soliquidis (12:15:08 AM): gotta get a name
Soliquidis (12:15:13 AM): hmmm
GDandBlinkfan76 (12:15:23 AM): cuntstis
Soliquidis (12:15:26 AM): lol
Soliquidis (12:15:28 AM): nice




mynameischan
03.30.10
seriously guys

Fugue
03.30.10
Best blog yet.

ziroth
03.30.10
agree with all of the above

Prophet178
03.30.10
Not every album is based around a single central theme, hence concept albums.

atrink
03.30.10
the pornstar conversation is very entertaining

americanmusicmachine
03.30.10
i think ya got something w/ that corpse fuckin' porn.

mynameischan
03.30.10
um that doesn't fucking matter it's a retarded term. an album that tells a story is just an album.

jesusjuice1179
03.30.10
"Every album has connected themes, every song tells a story."


would you mind telling me what the theme of Nickelback's Dark Horse is then?

mx
03.30.10
I think ranking lists can be valid, as long as it's interesting.

robertsona
03.30.10
99% of all 'vs.' lists are courtesy of user theacademy

Fugue
03.30.10
"would you mind telling me what the theme of Nickelback's Dark Horse is then?"

It's about a dark horse, duh.

mynameischan
03.30.10
mx check this out

http://sputnikmusic.com/list.php?listid=42854&memberid=436400

Athom
03.30.10
I wanna see cuntstis as the author tag on all your reviews.

jesusjuice1179
03.30.10
"It's about a dark horse, duh."


lol fail


mx
03.30.10
I could write up some more guidelines for lists. They are kind of all over the place right now

Douglas
03.30.10
poopy

Insurrection
03.30.10
You must hate my lists.

mx
03.30.10
Also -- one more response on the subject of lists. I'd rather have lists with rankings and discussion of actual music than lists about nothing at all =)

jesusjuice1179
03.30.10
mx, i didn't even know there were guidlines

Ponton
03.30.10
fun read

Inveigh
03.30.10
while I do agree with most of this, and I agree that concept album is a bad term, we need a way to describe albums that tell a narrative that differentiate those that are merely a collection of songs connected through sound. There is a real difference between Seventh Son of a Seventh Son (by Iron Maiden for all you nerds that don't know) and, say, 1984 by Van Halen.

Yes, "story album" sounds stupid, so people came up with concept album. And yes, every album (at least every good album) has a concept per se, so does anyone have any suggestions for what to call albums whose songs are connected by a continuing narrative?

It's like how an episode of a TV show tells a story, whereas an episode of SNL is a collection of skits. There needs to be a way to differentiate. Just sayin. Other than that, I agree with this blog entry wholeheartedly.

mynameischan
03.30.10
i don't understand why we need a differentiating term really. snl is different from dexter but they're both still tv shows. you would call one a comedy skit show and one a drama but that's why we have metal and rock and hip-hop

Prophet178
03.30.10
I think concept album is a fine term. I think "concept car" makes less sense.

Iluvatar
03.30.10
This was so damn stupid I wanted gouge my eyes out with 5 chickens

erasedcitizen
03.30.10
That could be the sole reason as to why you are stupid, but I bet there are lots of others.

DaveyBoy
03.30.10
RANKING CHANS PLANS'S:

1 - #1 (Because it has a DaveyBoy reference)
2 - #2

Inveigh
03.30.10
I guess, it is sort of nit-picky to need terms to tell them apart. I mean, "concept albums" are different from compilations, but they're both still music. I'm just saying that while the term most definitely sucks balls, I can't really think of a better term for it. Also, most concept albums suck anyways.

Oh, and Dexter f***ing rules.

jesusjuice1179
03.30.10
does anyone else think the staff blog is stupid? Its the same thing as making a list, there have been 3 of this type of lists tonight alone, it just seems kinda pointless calling it a blog, when its the same thing as a list, but i guess you need a way to differentiate it






see what I did there

erasedcitizen
03.30.10
Prophet

erasedcitizen
03.30.10
Woah

ziroth
03.30.10
blog >> list and staff is legit

mynameischan
03.30.10
it's different because this has a PLAYLIST

also jesusjuice i'm looking at you with all of your worthless lists

americanmusicmachine
03.30.10
i didn't like dexter honestly, also didn't like true blood. maybe i just can't like anything that's not basic cable.

jesusjuice1179
03.30.10
worthless list is worthless



see what I did there again

ziroth
03.30.10
was waiting for someone to do that took like 35 posts

mynameischan
03.30.10
it's okay if you didn't like true blood but dexter is sublime

Inveigh
03.30.10
Dexter is awesome, but the second season was kind of lame (compared to the other three, at least). I've never seen True Blood, but I'm sick of the whole vampire thing and the only vampire thing I've seen is the South Park episode making fun of vampire kids.

Athom
03.30.10
i think you mistook the second season for the third season.

jesusjuice1179
03.30.10
and you yell at me for making a worthless list with a worthless thread...

mx
03.30.10
jesusjuice, drop it

mynameischan
03.30.10
hey jesusjuice i know you're butthurt but calm down bro

all seasons of dexter rule

Iluvatar
03.30.10
True Blood is effing hilarious.

Iluvatar
03.30.10
mx defending the world from those blaspheming the name of our lord.

jesusjuice1179
03.30.10
oh i'm sorry, just had a bad day is all


and dexter sucks as does true blood

Athom
03.30.10
i've never liked Jimmy Smitts so it made the 3rd season difficult, even though it panned out in the end.

mynameischan
03.30.10
dexter is my favorite concept show

its so cohesive

robertsona
03.30.10
it's like every episode has an underlying theme and then they all fit together!

americanmusicmachine
03.30.10
i didn't find it conceptual enough to be honest.

jesusjuice1179
03.30.10
what does butthurt mean?

PanasonicYouth
03.30.10
"i think you mistook the second season for the third season."
this
third season was meh
second season was the bomb diggity

also ironic comment is ironic

AnotherBrick1
03.30.10
i'm with prophet on concept albums

Thor
03.30.10
maybe if i obey chan people will think i'm hip

mynameischan
03.30.10
sup kit why are you so grumpy lately

Jom
03.30.10
Chan makes me feel 112% more hippity-hip-hopper.

Knott-
03.30.10
Concept albums are fine how they are cheers.

kitsch
03.30.10
im going to rank pop punk concept albums and then suck chans balls so he wont be mad at me

Yazz_Flute
03.30.10
hey my comment was deleted

I agree with 4 whole-heartedly.

focksy
03.30.10
foxxxy making an appearance

Motiv3
03.30.10
lmao love this blog, really great read.

Inveigh
03.30.10
"i think you mistook the second season for the third season."

Nope, I meant the second one. Although the third season isn't much better (I mean, they're still better than pretty much everything else on TV, I'm just saying the first and fourth seasons of Dexter are like the two greatest seasons ever, ever), the Lyla character just gets so damn annoying at the end of the second season. But Deb gets annoying in season 3...

blog successfully transformed into Dexter: Ranked

focksy
03.30.10
sup foxxxxy

Electric City
03.30.10
my god foxxxy youre a sad human being

focksy
03.30.10
talking to my gf dont care what you said

BigTuna
03.30.10
i'm hip

Ghostechoes
03.30.10
I found myself surprised by the overall lack of the word 'faggot' in Chan's recent writings.

mynameischan
03.30.10
that word is INAPPROPRIATE

Athom
03.30.10
he's all growed up

Iluvatar
03.30.10
yeah chan doesnt like that word he got upset at me for using it

mynameischan
03.30.10
next chan's plans will be about the monumental week where iluvatar and mynameischan hung out 24/7

Relinquished
03.30.10
an intersting read that'll be

Brokenjewel
03.30.10
I wish I'd seen this before I ranked NOFX's albums yesterday.

Didn't realise the 'obvious list is obvious' thing was new; just thought it was some weird internet tradition, like homophobia or almost everything that ends in 'ism'.

thebhoy
03.30.10
name dropping The Weakerthans in a blog automatically makes it better than anything else ever written. TAKE THAT FLAUBERT

IronyIsALivingScene
03.30.10
Thank God you made a point about those stupid fucking "ranked" lists.

EBTCardMania
03.30.10
shut the fuck up already

JizzInMyPants
03.30.10
@mynameischan

that is why dexter is labeled as a serial drama ( a drama where each story directly influence the nextm ovement so to speak) than a stand alone show like Law & Order where most of the shows have nothing to do with one another

mynameischan
03.30.10
thx bro but musically that explains distinctions like black metal and death metal but they're still metal

JulesWin
03.30.10
"it’s hard for me to see you turning into such failures"
lol! I agree that people need to stop ranking stuff especially songs on an album who gives a shit? no more "TDAGARIM ranked lists"

Zizzer
03.30.10
So I can't make a "Best Concept Albums Ranked" list? Got it.

Athom
03.30.10
Chan's Plans #2 Ranked

EBTCardMania
03.30.10
all I learned from this is your va jay jay hurts

reading this was like taking a shit but still having to go

JulesWin
03.30.10
@ Zizzer make a "Best Pop-Punk Concept Albums Ranked" and I'll post "Useless list is Useless"

mynameischan
03.30.10
oh are you still trying ebtcardmania

EBTCardMania
03.30.10
I try til I run out of obamacash

ant4tbc
03.30.10
i love ranked pop-punk concept albums..

dang.

Prophet178
03.30.10
I'm gonna rank Bodominflames' rank lists.

Brokenjewel
03.30.10
I'm feeling the whole pop-punk argument, although I've found people on here to be more tolerant than in the real world. Thought I was gonna get lambasted for like Fall Out Boy.

elephantREVOLUTION
03.30.10
[quote]It's like how an episode of a TV show tells a story, whereas an episode of SNL is a collection of skits. There needs to be a way to differentiate. [/quote]
THIS. I actually don't have a problem with any of the things you mentioned. None of them have ever bothered me.

Brokenjewel
03.30.10
*liking..... bleh.

Jim
03.30.10
i don't want to sound like all the other suckholes, but this was an enjoyable read channing.

looking forward to more of your lowbrow commentary over the weeks.

Aids
03.30.10
This was the best blog yet, I like how it had something to do with your opinions on music, not like the other one. Keep it real chan, keep it real.

cirq
03.30.10
gay.

EnricoPalazzo
03.30.10
"Also -- one more response on the subject of lists. I'd rather have lists with rankings and discussion of actual music than lists about nothing at all =) "

Just like this one, right? I really hope jesusjuice isn't the only one that sees how freaking ironic and hypocritical this entire post is.

Also: I JUST QUOTED MX, my life is complete.

Prophet178
03.30.10
Umm this is the blog, not a list.

Foxhound
03.30.10
I'ma try to be better for now on, since you love me and all.

EnricoPalazzo
03.30.10
This is a blog that is a list. Semantics.

Prophet178
03.30.10
Not really, the whole purpose of the blog is for the staff to have a place to say what's on their mind, as per the first blog post:

"If you ever come back to this page, you can expect:

Track reviews and music highlights
Sputnik’s very own ‘Track of the Day’
Concert and Event Coverage
Site News
Lots of media
Random musings on music, artists, and genres
And lots of other scintillating content"

The lists on the main site are a completely different component.

EnricoPalazzo
03.30.10
They are acting in the same manner, therefore they are the basic thing. You can try and slap whatever name you want on it, it's still a list condemning lists.

qwe3
03.30.10
blogs and lists are p different actually...

EnricoPalazzo
03.30.10
Not when the blog IS A LIST. I rest my case.

Prophet178
03.30.10
[size=10][b]Random musings on music, artists, and genre[/b][/size]

What is there not to get about that? Just because Chan made a blog entry [i]listing[/i] his a couple observations about the site doesn't make it any less relevant to the whole purpose of the blog.

And MX didn't say he wanted to outlaw lists not pertaining to music, he just said they should provoke interesting discussion. Which no matter how much you want to argue about it, this "list" has done just that.

Foxhound
03.30.10
I actually like lists that rank albums as long as there's at least 5 though.

qwe3
03.30.10
"Not when the blog IS A LIST. I rest my case."

which this isn't.

that's like saying "pancakes are breakfast food, but not when you eat them at NIGHT"

EnricoPalazzo
03.30.10
All I'm saying is that this is pretty hypocritical.

You can try to argue all the semantics that you want, doesn't change the fact that this is a listing, plain and simple.

Prophet178
03.30.10
Oh my fucking god you're so dumb.

BLOG =/= LISTS
BLOG =/= LISTS
BLOG =/= LISTS
BLOG =/= LISTS
BLOG =/= LISTS
BLOG =/= LISTS

The whole purpose of the blog is for the staff to write about what is on their mind.

The purpose of lists are to provoke discussions about music.

Just because the blog entry is a list doesn't mean it HAS to be about music, it's still a BLOG ENTRY.



EnricoPalazzo
03.30.10
I never said the blog = lists, learn to fucking read, jackass.

I said that this particular post is a list, and quoted mx:
"Also -- one more response on the subject of lists. I'd rather have lists with rankings and discussion of actual music than lists about nothing at all =)"
simply pointing out the irony and hypocritical nature of that statement, being that *this particular post* is a list in and of itself. Quit riding the staff's dick for a moment and take a reading comprehension class or two.

qwe3
03.30.10
sigh

qwe3
03.30.10
mx was talking about MUSIC LISTS not BLOG ENTRIES which are different things serving different purposes. blog entries (musings) communicate a point of view or a peeve or whatever the staff person dude guy bro wants to talk about. goddamnit i don't understand what is so hard for you to understand

EnricoPalazzo
03.30.10
"sigh"

Precisely.

FreePizzaDay
03.30.10
Holy shit argue about something more useless, please. Lol.

EnricoPalazzo
03.30.10
What, and you don't think that I'm not wondering why the hell neither of you get it either?

Prophet178
03.30.10
"Quit riding the staff's dick for a moment"

Says the guy who just said "Also: I JUST QUOTED MX, my life is complete."

Alright back on retarded topic:

You say:

"I never said the blog = lists, learn to fucking read, jackass."

You said:

"They are acting in the same manner, therefore they are the basic thing."

I said

"Just because the blog entry is a list doesn't mean it HAS to be about music, it's still a BLOG ENTRY."

Just reiterating that.

And in the context of MX's original quote, he was referencing the lists on the music review site, not lists in general. I don't even know how you could even confuse that in the first place, but look who I'm talking to.


qwe3
03.30.10
Prophet i think this is a lost cause....

Deviant.
03.30.10
Just gonna put my 2 cents in here:

"[size=10][b]Random musings on music, artists, and genre[/b][/size]

What is there not to get about that? Just because Chan made a blog entry [i]listing[/i] his a couple observations about the site doesn't make it any less relevant to the whole purpose of the blog."

Apparently the coding don't work on the blog comments. Good to know

EnricoPalazzo
03.30.10
"Says the guy who just said 'Also: I JUST QUOTED MX, my life is complete.' "

Sorry, I'll have to add *SARCASM* to any further sarcastic posts.

"They are acting in the same manner, therefore they are the basic thing."

As I said before, in regards to this specific post.


This is taken from the list creating page:

"Create a Music List
Lists allow you to rank music according to your wishes. You can make a list of your top favorite albums or songs this year, your top favorite bands of all time, or anything else. The possibilities are endless. All of your lists will be viewable by the public on your profile."

Prophet178
03.30.10
Yeah and I can't even edit it out, so I look like a huge noober.

qwe3
03.30.10
why can't we bbcode here :(

back on topic chan is a pretty aMUSING guy

Jim
03.30.10
lol qwe i geddit

i think

Inveigh
03.30.10
wow. I wish we were still talking about Dexter.

LeotardMessiah2
03.30.10
I already mentioned 4 in a list a couple of days ago. Faggot

kitsch
03.30.10
hey mr. qwetherington you never called me after our encounter in the bath house

Ghostechoes
03.30.10
About the Enrico/Prophet feud, I can not take part since they both are cool dudes.

mynameischan
03.30.10
good discussion guys keep it up

Iluvatar
03.30.10
the thing is if someone makes a list like this, its supposed to be deleted anyways. so no, this isn't a "list"

Thor
03.30.10
sorry for being such a grumpy mcgrumpster channing freeman

Transient
03.30.10
you were cooler when you were depressed

SeaAnemone
03.30.10
"you were cooler when you were depressed"


this

Thor
03.30.10
lolololololol

he's back to taking her to the BONE ZONE

Iluvatar
03.30.10
i am so upset about that ugh

bungy
03.30.10
Enrico's trolling. I enjoyed reading this btw

BigTuna
03.30.10
I thought it was full of gayish things.

Transient
03.30.10
it's funny that you complain about memes and the 'current state of the internet' when you post like a retarded /b/ fag most of the time yourself

VicariousIntent
03.30.10
So...what do you all think about this...Music Television.

porch
03.30.10
more like chans bowel movements

jesusjuice1179
03.30.10
kids and their music these days...

Burn2Burn
03.30.10
bad blog is bad

EBTCardMania
03.31.10
this blog is gayer than pop punk (I know it's a stretch)

Prophet178
03.31.10
His troll comments have been on point today actually.

EBTCardMania
03.31.10
what's up chuck

mynameischan
03.31.10
what's up someguest

EBTCardMania
03.31.10
Welcome back Mr. Freeman.

mynameischan
04.02.10
anal play

Iluvatar
04.02.10
hep kat sighting

TheyTookOurJobs
04.02.10
black metal porn ftw

TheyTookOurJobs
04.02.10
black metal porn ftw

bailar12
09.19.10
no

Ire
09.19.10
i mm8 this one time.


i was like all OMG

mynameischan
09.19.10
nice bump

bailar12
09.19.10
dont worry chan ill get to the other ones too

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