Genesis
...And Then There Were Three...


3.0
good

Review

by Nagrarok USER (219 Reviews)
April 24th, 2012 | 77 replies


Release Date: 1978 | Tracklist

Review Summary: ...And Then There Was Pop.

Following the respective departures of Peter Gabriel and Steve Hackett in ’75 and ’77, Genesis entered into what was to be their longest and most successful period as a trio. Tony Banks, Phil Collins and Mike Rutherford signified this second rearrangement with ...And Then There Were Three..., which served as the transition from Wind & Wuthering’s fading progressive wanderings to the pop-infested Duke. Essentially, this means that the band’s final 70’s recording still seems a little unsure about accepting the popular breakthrough that beckoned. It’s an unsteady merger of Genesis’ artistic and commercial sides, one that ultimately allowed the fan-hated pop to sneak in.

Divided as it is, there are plenty of parts to the album that manage to appease the progressive crowd, even if the average song length is shortened. Collins is coming into his own as a vocalist at this point, seeming more confident and having a far larger presence than before, although the sound still relies heavily on Banks’ keyboards. Rutherford took over as lead guitarist when Hackett’s position wasn’t filled, keeping his bass duties the same way Collins kept his drumming. Obviously, tour musicians were added, but the remaining Genesis core continued to be fully responsible for their output.

During the record’s strongest moments, the pop/prog mix works out well. Burning Rope balances the two nicely, revealing some classic Genesis passages among catchy melodies. The band’s characteristic storytelling is still upheld with The Lady Lies, though the narrative is much more straightforward. Accessibility does persist even within the prog-oriented material, and the muddy production doesn’t do much to add some punch to the songs. The positively chaotic rhythm of Down and Out makes it a misleading opener, which ever so slightly recalls the more intense sections of The Lamb; references to the past are generally a good thing here.

When the band truly ventures into pop territory, the results are uneven. The oddly placed Follow You Follow Me is the unavoidable hit, catchy and cleverly written, but lacking in substance. For those who believe the group ever sold their soul for success, this is a particularly great track to blame. Ballad of Big is their first attempt at a simple rocker, which really fails to make an impression, and the equally unremarkable Many Too Many finds itself a throwaway among too many (no pun intended) other ballads. Despite the overall inconsistency, there are gems to be found, particularly the Afterglow-esque Undertow and the quiet Snowbound. Genesis clearly went downhill after the losses of two crucial members, but ...And Then There Were Three... is just interesting enough to look into.

Genesis Mark V:

Tony Banks – Keyboards
Phil Collins – Vocals, Drums
Mike Rutherford – Guitar, Bass

Highlights:

Down and Out
Undertow
Snowbound
Burning Rope
The Lady Lies




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Comments:Add a Comment 
Nagrarok
April 24th 2012


8656 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

Yeah, still some good stuff here.

greg84
Emeritus
April 24th 2012


7654 Comments


Great review as always. Pos.

Nagrarok
April 24th 2012


8656 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

it's an ok record



Thanks greg.

SgtPepper
Emeritus
April 24th 2012


4510 Comments


Good review. I've never been a real fan of Genesis, but I do enjoy some of their stuff. Anyway, POS'd.

chambered69
April 24th 2012


1253 Comments


gay fucking album why review holy fuck kill urself

KILL
April 24th 2012


81580 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

cool

MO
April 24th 2012


24015 Comments


right on nag keep it up, great review

Jethro42
April 24th 2012


18274 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

I used to love pretty much that album at the time it came out but trust me, it's getting old pretty fast. Down and Out and Burning Rope are undeniably classic Genesis songs. One thing I never understood is they never tried to find a replacement over Hackett's departure. Shame + shame + shame, and lol at Rutherford taking the guitar duties.

Down And Out 5/5

Undertow 5/5

Ballad Of Big 3.5/5

Snowbound 2.5/5

Burning Rope 5/5

Deep In The Motherlode 3.5/5

Many Too Many 2.5/5

Scenes From A Night's Dream 2/5

Say It's Alright Joe 2.5/5

The Lady Lies 4.5/5

Follow You Follow Me 4.5/5

Another pos for another Nag's classic review





Voivod
Staff Reviewer
April 24th 2012


10699 Comments


Excellent review, pos.

KILL
April 24th 2012


81580 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

feature this

KILL
April 24th 2012


81580 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

haha surprised that even has a review at all

ThunderNeutral21
April 24th 2012


3863 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

do we cant dance

Jethro42
April 24th 2012


18274 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

yes we dont

tarkus
April 25th 2012


5568 Comments


this is a tad underrated

rockandmetaljunkie
April 25th 2012


9620 Comments


Keep reviewing dude.
Pos

Ire
April 25th 2012


41944 Comments


eh album

Jethro42
April 25th 2012


18274 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

and then there were duke

Nagrarok
April 25th 2012


8656 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

One thing I never understood is they never tried to find a replacement over Hackett's departure. Shame + shame + shame, and lol at Rutherford taking the guitar duties.




Pretty much. They didn't really need another Hackett for that pop rock, but Rutherford's should've stuck to bass.



Thanks all.





Jethro42
April 25th 2012


18274 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

Nag, my friend, it's such a good thing you're back at reviewing. Trve music needs trve writers so much. Also, just a reminder; don't you know that Duke > Invisible Touch? Or perhaps is it just me who've missread Hans' review =P

Nagrarok
April 25th 2012


8656 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

I need to listen to Duke some more before reviewing because I grew up listening to the wrong album, ha. Invisible Touch pop rating is 4, prog rating would be more of a 2-2.5, but that stuff's nostalgic to me.



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