Saosin
Saosin


3.5
great

Review

by Iluvatar USER (168 Reviews)
April 15th, 2007 | 380 replies


Release Date: 2006 | Tracklist

Review Summary: "Saosin is one of the better pop-punk albums of 2006, a great mix of metal and post-hardcore elements with some of the most catchy hooks this side of "Back to Bedlam."

To be quite honest, Translating the Name by Saosin really wasn’t that great. It featured a pretty raw band with a pretty raw singer, and despite the promise they both showed, it ended up being a fast, aggressive, poppy mess. When the two heads (the band and the singer) split up, everyone could only fear for the worst from the now Anthony Green-less Saosin, and expected massive things from the Scene King. After years of wait, Anthony Green’s new band Circa Survive released De-Loused in…, er, Juturna, while it took Saosin another year to release their first album, which ended up being self titled. Who ends up winning in the battle of pretentiousness?

“Sleepers” is easily the most kickass job anything even related to Saosin has ever put out. Despite it being a reworking of a previous demo, and being the lead single from the album, you’ll be hard pressed to find a more rocking song . With guitar riffs that put many popcore band to shame (and a few “metal” bands as well), combined with the intensity of new singer Cove Reber, the song ends up being a perfect indication of what Saosin does best; incredibly catchy, fast, and (ugh) aggressive metal-tinged pop-punk. After this, you’ll wonder why the hell did anyone even care about Anthony Green in the first place.

The musicianship here is literally outstanding if you come in here with preconceived notions of what a band most easily compared to a hard-edged version of My Chemical Romance should be. There are frequent time changes to make up for the relatively unimaginative riffs (which are nonetheless perfectly awesome). Drummer Alex Rodriguez presents tons of awesome fills throughout the album, and Cove often uses his voice as more of a melody carrying device than trying to show off, which is exactly what Saosin needs.

Tackling huge, soaring choruses and quick punk tunes is when you see Saosin really hitting their mark. The first four songs are all perfectly constructed; the chorus to “It’s So Simple” may be a lyrical mess, but goddamn if the proclamation itself isn’t awe-inspiring. It’s rare that a band like this can get epic in the span of 3 minutes, but Saosin pretty much manages to do that on a regular basis. When they get closer to being hardcore (a bastardized version, before I get flamed out of my ass), like on “Collapse”, they are as intense as any band who depends on hook after hook can be.

The big comparison has to be, of course, whether Cove can compare to Anthony Green as a vocalist. The resounding answer is easily. Where Green depends on silly little tricks and a higher-than-belief pitched voice to try and carry a tune, Cove is a much more trained and, frankly, professional singer. He may be a bit similar to Green tone-wise, but Cove can do a lot more vocal acrobatics, whether it be the chorus in “I Never Wanted to Be” where he pulls off singing every syllable ever so differently without making it seem contrived, to “Bury Your Dead” where his commanding voice far outsrips anything Green has done with Circa Survive. Where he does fail is in his lyricism, which is often incredibly shallow and filled with clichés. No way getting around it; Cove, while a much better singer, is one of the worst songwriters imaginable.

It’s okay, because for the most part, Saosin manage to pull off every song well. The album could use some more variation, however. As great as the songs are, there are only one or two tracks that really sound unique to anything else, with everything else having a tune eerily similar to it elsewhere on the album. For as awesome as “Sleepers” or “Collapse” is, there are a “Voices” and “Come Close” which ‘come close’ to replicating them.

Juturna, taken out of context, is a good album. It has some catchy tunes (weighted heavily towards the beginning), Green has a great voice, and the band do a good job essentially backing him up. However, its really quite repetitive due to the fact there is only so much Green can do with his voice, and what his backup band (sorry, but this really is just a vehicle for a Green solo career) can do to support him. Meanwhile, Saosin ends up capturing a lot of the magic that Translating the Name had, with a singer who while not as unique or as good a songwriter as Green, fits them better. Its undeniably a pop-punk album, but it has hints of post-hardcore and metal that make its excellent guitar work stand out more than anything on Juturna. The verdict? If your looking for the more “out there” album, Juturna is the choice. If your looking for a far superior album, even if it’s a bit bland, take Saosin.



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Intransit
April 15th 2007


2797 Comments


This being anything above a 2.5 is ridiculousness.

Good work, but you need to proofread it. There is at least one incomplete sentence and a couple of awkward phrasings.

Pyramidman
April 15th 2007


1340 Comments


that last paragraph is one hundred percent correct

Cesar
April 15th 2007


2732 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0

Chan you should consider reviewing a Thrice album. Seeing the comments you make about Thrice in list and journals I think it would be a good review.

trustxdialect
April 15th 2007


1502 Comments


I hated Juturna. But your last paragraph pretty much sums it up. Good review, but look at the first sentence; Tanslating the name...

CushMG15
April 15th 2007


1810 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5 | Sound Off

I agree with you, for the most part, on this album. Not so much with Translating the Name tho. I have a feeling that Cove is going to really grow tho. Good Review tho.

CushMG15
April 15th 2007


1810 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5 | Sound Off

I ended 3/4 sentances with "tho". Makes me look like a douche. I'm out.

The Jungler
April 15th 2007


4826 Comments


I kinda want to listen to this, the single is pretty awesome.
Nice review.

south_of_heaven 11
April 15th 2007


5611 Comments


In one of my classes last semester, there was this kid who came up to my table and tried to hit on this hot chick. After he figured out he was being rejected, he tried to turn to this one kid and I who were talking about music. He asked if either of us liked Saosin, and I kindly replied "no, and go away faggot". He then got all surprised that not everyone in the world likes them.This Message Edited On 04.15.07

Brain Dead
April 15th 2007


1150 Comments


In one of my classes last semester, there was this kid who came up to my table and tried to hit on this hot chick. After he figured out he was being rejected, he tried to turn to this one kid and I who were talking about music. He asked if either of us liked Saosin, and I kindly replied "no, and go away faggot". He then got all surprised that not everyone in the world likes them.

You're kind of an asshole.

south_of_heaven 11
April 15th 2007


5611 Comments


You're kind of an asshole.

That kid was kind of a faggot.
You kind of make me feel unwanted around here Grant, you know that?

Don't go thinking that now John, just don't.

AmericnZero02
April 15th 2007


3844 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

Pop punk? thats a mistake.

trustxdialect
April 15th 2007


1502 Comments


I don't think a lot of people really get what pop-punk is. They assume it means stuff that sounds like Fall Out Boy or Good Charlotte, so bands like Senses Fail, Saosin and Brand New are pushed to alternate genres. It finally clicked with me after a while what made a band actually pop-punk.

AmericnZero02
April 15th 2007


3844 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

Just because Cole has a high pitched voice and there aren't any solos doesn't mean its pop punk. This is too technical and guitar driven. And there is very little punk resembling drumming. This Message Edited On 04.15.07

AmericnZero02
April 15th 2007


3844 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

Well then I guess we just have different definitions of pop-punk. Saosin has few characteristics that could be catagorized with punk. All I see is vocals that could be considered "pop" because of sing-along choruses and the tone of the vocalist's voice.

AmericnZero02
April 15th 2007


3844 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

I'll give you that. I just don't think thats enough to define their genre.

trustxdialect
April 15th 2007


1502 Comments


Pop influences run right through the hooks and choruses, which also drives the vocals. Pop-punk isn't just Fall Out Boy or Panic! at the Disco, just like metal has very different styles. Take out most of the reverb and post-hardcore influences and Gatsby's American Dream has already done this in some aspects.

edit/ or what ilu said, which is what i said but elaborated.This Message Edited On 04.15.07

Fire Away
April 17th 2007


293 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

boy, do i agree with that second paragraph. cool review

StrizzMatik
July 28th 2007


4155 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

It's an ok album but Translating The Name is better. Whereas the EP was fresh for its time, this album is really really dated and generic.

PhoenixRising
July 28th 2007


277 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

Agree with above. They became a blander more straigh-forward version of their prior selves with this album.



These guys can pack in the Jr High girls though.

kingsoby1
Emeritus
August 9th 2008


4970 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0

They create soundscapes that make me think of trash and poop. Juturna is more urine-y. In general, all of this stuff is mediocre.



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