Album Rating: 4.0
Sadly agree with sea. Someone with no experience of hip hop will certainly appreciate it more with some background info
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Album Rating: 3.5 | Sound Off
so you sadly agreed with rightful reason
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lol
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Album Rating: 3.5
not sure what the counterargument is here tbh. continuing to use drone as the example here.... someone who has absolutely no understanding of its appeal and what it sets out to accomplish, simply wont "get" it. someone who listens to nothing but top 40 z100 pop would most likely say "this isnt music" or "this is the same thing for 20 minutes why would anyone listen to this". and again, THATS FINE. its their opinion. but its one that obviously cant be taken seriously or respected by someone with knowledge of the genre.
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climactic I don't think it makes very much sense either; it's just one of those niceties that seems to be perpetuated on SputnikMusic without anyone actually thinking about it.
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There are different levels of exposure for everything. We're exposed to much more music here than the majority of people outside of this community. There's times where the userbase feels they need to defend things like pop music to try and relate to everyone. Those who listen to pop all day most likely don't give a damn whether you care for what they listen to or not, and vice versa. It's the same concept here. Everyone feels like they should appreciate this release because it is a Godspeed release even as it's an atypical album from them. And that's where we're getting the disconnect.
Listen to what you want, give your opinion whenever you feel like it, but don't expect anyone else to give your words any weight without any background knowledge and appreciation to back it up.
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see: Sowing reviewing this lol
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just had a friendly little private convo with Sea. the issue with my argument is I made an ultimate statement:
see, i don't believe having 'knowledge' of a genre matters when it comes to simply interpreting/appreciating what you're hearing
this is worded pretty dumbly, so yeah, gonna have to shamefully backpedal.
when Sea sorta implied that anyone who disliked the album because they were allegedly non-drone listeners, I didn't see his logic. I simply don't think being well-acquainted with a very specific style should prevent one from understanding it, or at least attempting to (which Sea agrees with). that said, something is bound to shape your understanding in it - if not in drone music specifically, some other forms of music you've been exposed to (like Guest just said^^ the average user here probably has more exposure than average listeners, maybe).
and yeah, Sowing reviewing this (and quite well) shows that you don't need to be super exposed to show insight - which, again, I'm sure Sea agrees with to an extent.
anyway yeah. it's probably near-impossible to interpret something in a vacuum, which i agree with, so the way i said it earlier was worded poorly. I probably implied that knowledge doesn't matter (actually that's pretty much what I said), and I done goofed
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Writers are good at fudging things. I'm not saying that's what Sowing did (I haven't read the review; I want to hear this first) but when you're a seasoned writer you can pull generalizing a bit better.
I think all any of us are saying is don't speak like you know something unless you really do. Sarcasm, quips, etc. aside, of course.
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we've commandeered the thread, beat it
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Album Rating: 3.5
tbh this thread is so pretentious right now i can smell your guys's farts. you dont need to know the history of a genre to be able to have an opinion on it or be able to appreciate it. and;
Music and Logic Fundamentals 101
omg stop right the fuck there. you guys are neglecting that most of the worlds population is casual music listeners who know the history of pretty much no genre at all. delving into the history of different genres is a useful tool if you want to critically analyze its influences, where its been and where its going, and how it compares to the big picture but waxing psuedo-philosophical bullshit about music in a 101 level college course is about as niche as it gets and in no way reflects the ability of someone to form an opinion on music.
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Album Rating: 1.5
someguest is worst sputnik user ever...
also, nicely written review.....
drone music sucks btw...
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Drone arguments are the best
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Album Rating: 3.0 | Sound Off
"someguest is worst sputnik user ever..."
Tempest wants to have a word with you
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Album Rating: 3.0
the shitty attempts to be funny make this review look terrible. neg
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pos
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I used my alt to pos this twice tbh
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Honestly thought the review was pretty funny tbh. Pos.
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Album Rating: 4.5
Since I can see I was brought into this, I'll just say the following:
-You do not need to be an expert in a genre to review it, and review it well. There are varying levels of exposure.
-Expertise is important if you are claiming expert knowledge in the field. For instance, if a review said "this contains some of the best drone pieces of the last 3 years." Obviously you can't make that kind of assertion without having the supporting data to back your opinion.
-I do not claim to be a drone expert, therefore I did not make any comparisons or implications that extended beyond what I heard right here, on this album. And any other reviewer who is simply describing what they are hearing cannot be wrong to do so.
There, now everyone can simmer.
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Album Rating: 4.5
Also, the shit posting/alt posting about dicks, etc. can stop because I'm just going to delete it, as I've already been doing =)
Luckily I forgot to report it but next time I'll just save the trouble and copypasta your profile page link for deletion. =)
hope everyone is swell
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