"but punk is supposed to sound like shit, basic music, I things progressing, to a point,"
Well that's your problem. Stop putting it into a box
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I did chuck, the stooges raw power, ramones too tough to die, I mean the Casualties even mixed punk and metal, and some progression, Black flags change of style. Come to think of it the early thrash movement was a blend of punk and metal, master of puppets could of been the shape of punk to come, in the earlier era, the damned changed styles often
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Album Rating: 5.0
love the stooges and ramones but they dont sound like this at all imo
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Album Rating: 4.5
"I like the album, but think it is not that far ahead of its time, just a mix of different genres, been done before, many times. I mean christ, Raw power was a progression in the grand scheme of punk with the different arrangements and instruments introed in mix that was done 25 years before the great Refused"
so any mixture of different genres is irrelevant because some band already mixed some genres?
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Album Rating: 4.5
Venom sounds more like this than Stooges or Ramones
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Album Rating: 4.5
"if its been done before pls give examples because id genuinely like to hear them "
check out the nation of ulysses. that wasn't in the 70s, though
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Album Rating: 4.5
This is due from another listen. This album is good shit.
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did not say they sounded the same just that they changes the way they sound, or progressed
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Album Rating: 5.0
You lost me the second you said punk is supposed to sound like shit lmao
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Artuma, am not saying that, but it does NOT mean that the album is ahead of its time, or great, it is great but not to the point that you guys say it is, great album, but not the be all end all
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Album Rating: 5.0
No album is the be all end all album though. But wtf, my comments end up last on page more than they should lol
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Album Rating: 4.5
Yeah no such thing as an objectively be all end all album
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Album Rating: 4.5
"it does NOT mean that the album is ahead of its time, or great, it is great but not to the point that you guys say it is, great album, but not the be all end all"
you're right, the credit this album gets for its experimentation is a little overrated but it's still quite phenomenal and you can't find albums that sounded quite like this when look at the time it was made. plus, a large amount of bands have cited this album as their influence
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If the nation of ulysses sounds like this album then I'll be sure to check them within the next week
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Album Rating: 4.5
it doesn't sound the same but these guys borrowed a lot of the experimentation from them
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Album Rating: 5.0
I mean, if you look at the album's popularity now and then you can't possibly deny that it was WAY ahead of its time. It just was
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"you're right, the credit this album gets for its experimentation is a little overrated but it's still quite phenomenal and you can't find albums that sounded quite like this when look at the time it was made. plus, a large amount of bands have cited this album as their influence"
fair enough, peace out people, I am just a lover of old school music, I like to go to the original sources of inspiration, I'll listen a few more times before I make further judgement
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Album Rating: 5.0
It's cool man. Nice you checked this even if you like more old school music, cheers
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Album Rating: 3.5
I am just a lover of old school music
really dumb
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"What more can I say? I wouldn't be here today if the old school didn't pave the way"
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