Dustin Kensrue The Water and The Blood
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cinaedus
October 1st 2013



26195 Comments


he has to know that he's preaching to the choir here though.

Point1
October 1st 2013



197 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

I love the music here but as a guy who grew up surrounded by worship music I will never be able to seriously listen to it. Music about faith is fine if you Devil and God it or even Anberlin it. There's nothing interesting at all about the lyrics or messages, at least nothing that appeals to me.

If an album is good if you ignore the lyrics it's not a good album. If Radiohead went out and made an album about Scientology people would be pissed off.

RogueNine
October 1st 2013



964 Comments


^ wut

XingKing
October 1st 2013



9043 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5 | Sound Off

No shit. It's a worship album released by his churches label. He did say his follow up record will be the continuation of Please Come Home and that it would contain Crown of Thorns, he just didn't have enough material written at the time to release a full length

cinaedus
October 1st 2013



26195 Comments


point1 is right; lyrics are incredibly important for singer-songwriter type stuff at the very least.

TheSupernatural
October 1st 2013



852 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0 | Sound Off

The problem with gospel music isn't the message, it's that the music sucks. Dustin has said as much ultimate
occasions.

I don't understand the argument that gospel music should be judged differently because the entire purpose is to
praise
God. How come that doesn't apply with other types of music, like radio rock (Nickelback and Daughtry), where the
entire purpose of the music is commercial success?

If music is judged by what its purpose is, then I might have to think every rating I've ever given. However, if music
is judged based on objective criteria that doesn't deviate much between genres, I fail to see how gospel music could be
considered good music.

Digging: Cage Grind Noir - Pilots

americanohno
October 1st 2013



1592 Comments


Gospel music (can be) awesome you guys are all idiots.
Proof:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=as1rsZenwNc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdJ_AXje5iI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrA4f_9yq0U
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oK27xTPDdCk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQCZY6CC_Js
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8avSGnZlnaY

That ain't all strictly gospel but point still stands you guys are all dumb as fuck.

TheSupernatural
October 1st 2013



852 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0 | Sound Off

The problem with gospel music isn't the message, it's that the music sucks. Dustin has said as much ultimate occasions.

I don't understand the argument that gospel music should be judged differently because the entire purpose is to praise God. How come that doesn't apply with other types of music, like radio rock (Nickelback and Daughtry), where the entire purpose of the music is commercial success?

If music is judged by what its purpose is, then I might have to think every rating I've ever given. However, if music is judged based on objective criteria that doesn't deviate much between genres, I fail to see how gospel music could be considered good music.

Edit: Can't figure out the formatting for these comments. And I checked out "The Voice of the Lord." That is the type of song that I wanted form this album. Might end up rating this higher after a full listen

TheSupernatural
October 1st 2013



852 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0 | Sound Off

Okay, I should have been more specific: contemporary pop/rock gospel. Most of the songs you posted are decent songs that were written well before this century.

americanohno
October 1st 2013



1592 Comments


Well then it's not called gospel it's called "Contemporary Christian Music" or "Praise and Worship" and yeah it mostly fucking sucks. I think The Welcome Wagon do a good job at it but yeah that's about it.


thecolorbrown
October 1st 2013



66 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

There are definitely some bands these that break the stereotypes of Contemporary Christian Music.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-iG2wUL1vTY (screaming at the end)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mafFs2zXC8 (this features Dustin Kensrue near the end)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3O_pAOiGuo (resembles M83)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTjm1BxDhyk (check out the guitar/cello duet at the end)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gya-ajyEhB0

There are some really talented musicians have been making music that defies the stereotypes of CCM songs. Unfortunately, they aren't really getting the attention they deserve. I would put Kensrue's album right with these. It's good music that isn't horrible lyrically, or really good lyrics with crappy music. Usually all we find is one of those two

americanohno
October 1st 2013



1592 Comments


Yeah I was probably too harsh on that style of music. You can't really judge a genre or whatever based only on its mainstream. I really liked the Digital Age and Ascend the Hill songs and they certainly seem to take the art seriously and aren't just trying to sell me Jesus.

I really think Welcome Wagon
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LcwGAuWm3Lk
and Woven Hand
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEBOO5zM3vM
do a great job at this aswell.

And although I never was fond of Switchfoot Jon Foreman's got a song called "Instead of a Show" that's really great.

cinaedus
October 1st 2013



26195 Comments


jon foreman's fall and winter EPs are very nice

thecolorbrown
October 2nd 2013



66 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

All 4 of his eps are fantastic. There isn't a song on any of those eps that I don't absolutely love.

Dustin Kensrue actually covered a song from one of Jon Foreman's eps
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfY6ft-H3bM

not nearly as good as the original though...

thecolorbrown
October 2nd 2013



66 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

and probably the most talented Christian musician there is, Phil Keaggy. I could watch him perform for days http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1c5ba3QqSXA

IslamicPenguins
October 2nd 2013



68 Comments

Album Rating: 1.5

This did nothing for me and his psychopathic lyrics really just stopped me from even giving it another shot

thecolorbrown
October 2nd 2013



66 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

^ That's really interesting. What are some lyrics that seemed psychopathic to you? I'm not trying to argue, I'm actually really curious. I didn't get that vibe at all

TheSupernatural
October 2nd 2013



852 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0 | Sound Off

I think he's saying Dustin isn't another Islamic penguin...

RogueNine
October 2nd 2013



964 Comments


That's about what I gathered.

Emim
October 2nd 2013



26195 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Okay, I should have been more specific: contemporary pop/rock gospel. Most of the songs you posted are decent songs that were written well before this century.


I don't understand the argument that gospel music should be judged differently because the entire purpose is to
praise
God. How come that doesn't apply with other types of music, like radio rock (Nickelback and Daughtry), where the
entire purpose of the music is commercial success?



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