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botb
May 26th 2013


9781 Comments


still not remotely metalcore

mindleviticus
May 26th 2013


8331 Comments


dis good

Butkuiss
May 26th 2013


4253 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

I feel like nothing they write will ever top Lament or April or Eden so meh.

NonApplicable
May 27th 2013


2013 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0 | Sound Off

these vocals are akin to those of modern melodic metalcore.

What a dumb thing to say.



NonApplicable
May 27th 2013


2013 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0 | Sound Off

I've worked with Auto-tune and Vocoder in the past. Personally, I don't hear it here but it is possible it's there. I know Ashe is talented, so I have no issue with him using it as a supplement.

I understand what you're saying though Climactic. When I listen to certain records, I'll have this issue that will just sit in the back of my mind. Every time it happens or I think about it, it prevents me from enjoying a record to it's fullest.

ViralOblivion
May 27th 2013


7679 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0

Got like halfway through before I couldn't anymore

tempest--
May 27th 2013


14662 Comments


lol u guys
autotune is used in every single piece of music you have ever heard that has been made since the late 90s

NonApplicable
May 27th 2013


2013 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0 | Sound Off

What are you even talking about. No it hasn't.

tempest--
May 27th 2013


14662 Comments


lol yes
I'm currently doing a sound production course dude
unless someone's specifically said "I don't want autotune in this" then it'll have autotune in it

ViralOblivion
May 27th 2013


7679 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0

I don't give a shit about autotune

This is just god awful

NonApplicable
May 27th 2013


2013 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0 | Sound Off

You have no idea what you're talking about. Try again.

tempest--
May 27th 2013


14662 Comments


yeah u got me i know nothing

NonApplicable
May 27th 2013


2013 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0 | Sound Off

Takes a big man to admit he's wrong on the internet

tempest--
May 27th 2013


14662 Comments


Auto tune is mostly used to correct the tiniest of mistakes in vocals, as it changes off notes to the nearest semitone in any particular scale (including chromatics).
So if your vocalist is even the slightest bit flat (which is likely, because no one is a perfect singer), the sound engineer will use auto tune to pitch shift it to the right note.

NonApplicable
May 27th 2013


2013 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0 | Sound Off

Yes that is what auto-tune does. It is also program plugin that is not required to be used.
Many producers and artists choose not to use it because of the negative attention it gets.

SitarHero
May 27th 2013


4746 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

Pssshhh. C'mon Lloyd. Stop trying to pass off your real world experience as "knowledge". That's not how the internet works brah.

tempest--
May 27th 2013


14662 Comments


There's many more producers and artists that do use it than don't.

NonApplicable
May 27th 2013


2013 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0 | Sound Off

@Sitar

I did live sound and produced a handful of (shitty)bands over a two year period. I can send
you some of my material if you don't believe me. I'm not claiming I'm an expert sound engineer, but
I certainly know how auto-tune works.

There's many more producers and artists that do use it than don't.

In music that receives major radio play you are correct. In many other genres it's barely used. When
it is, it's very subtle.

Regardless, your original claim was that ALL music since the late 90s had auto-tune. That is flat
out incorrect.


SitarHero
May 27th 2013


4746 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

We all know how autotune works NonApp. But your experience and Lloyd's conflict. He's not saying that autotune is
being used all over the entire album, but only subtly in strategic places to correct certain notes. He thinks he hears
autotune on the vocals here and you're disclaiming that. However, judging by how layered and prone to overproduction
(not a bad thing in my book) the band is, I'm inclined to agree that autotune is present to make sure that Ashe's vocals
are spot on. Djent is generally heavily reliant on digital manipulation to get the sound they're looking for, why would
vocals be any different?

Edit: Shit, my bad, I was following the wrong argument. I guess the same argument applies to any professionally
produced piece of music.

tempest--
May 27th 2013


14662 Comments


okay my point is

unless you're listening to some random garage band that has 100 fans on facebook or the album/demo/whatever wasn't made with an even somewhat slightly professional engineer (which neither apply to this band), chances are it has auto tune.



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