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afoolonahill
March 19th 2013


159 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

popular so i hate it

Omaha
Staff Reviewer
March 19th 2013


10506 Comments

Album Rating: 4.6 | Sound Off

I really get what you're saying, Lewis. As Sniper said, the "channel-surfing" aspect of this album works so well for me, because it feels like a collection of snapshots from Ocean's life.



what? no. it speaks to either an inability to stretch these ideas to something fruitful which i don't believe because again pyramids, or that mr ocean is still unsure of what he wants to be recognized as, sound like and be remembered as when the records done.




In other words:



what? well i feel differently and i have different feelings and i can't quite fathom your feelings because i have mine and this is a rant and

FourthReich
March 19th 2013


20190 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5 | Sound Off

not really a rant but ok. I still feel this album has too much filler, but damn are the standout tracks amazing

antigravity
March 19th 2013


522 Comments


sup fourthdyke

Omaha
Staff Reviewer
March 19th 2013


10506 Comments

Album Rating: 4.6 | Sound Off

I'll argue that Sweet Life is way better than Thinkin' 'Bout You ANYDAY! Come at me!

FourthReich
March 19th 2013


20190 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5 | Sound Off

heus amicus! who the fuck are ya

antigravity
March 19th 2013


522 Comments


yr mum

FourthReich
March 19th 2013


20190 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5 | Sound Off

oh didn't know you had a sput account!

antigravity
March 19th 2013


522 Comments


yep hi hunny

FourthReich
March 19th 2013


20190 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5 | Sound Off

hey hope dad isn't beatin the shit out of u still

antigravity
March 19th 2013


522 Comments


it's the other way around now

FourthReich
March 19th 2013


20190 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5 | Sound Off

lol

plane
Emeritus
March 19th 2013


6125 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

what? no. it speaks to either an inability to stretch these ideas to something fruitful which i don't believe because again pyramids, or that mr ocean is still unsure of what he wants to be recognized as, sound like and be remembered as when the records done.


You haven't really countered what I said or responded to it, though I agree with you on the second part (more on that in a minute) and disagree with you on the first part. I genuinely enjoy every track here and think Frank fleshed them out to the degree he needed to for this particular album and its concept to work. Remember his age and his career, remember his open letter about love and acceptance, remember Forrest Gump. His detachment from ideas as they end speaks directly to his channel-surfing motif, which speaks directly to his age and targeted demographic. There's a unifying sense of self and willingness to open various dialogs on the subject of love, sexuality, gender, drugs, and dependency (on all of the above).



Like, we can disagree on the quality, but these ideas are fleshed out in execution because they are intended not to be.



edit cont. "Pyramids" being "the most fleshed out" is part of the point: you're channel surfing and land on some big climactic action sequence as it starts up. The intrigue will bring you along until the conclusion because otherwise it would lack cohesion and satisfaction. But suddenly satisfaction is obtained, so you flip the channel. Frank doesn't sequence this into the album as its climax, but right dead center. As if teens and twentysomethings (though this is, at this point, a universally distressing idea of passive viewing) are desensitized to even emotional overloading, so experiencing "Pyramids" doesn't make us turn off the stereo and contemplate gender and racial relations. We just skip to the next track/channel.

plane
Emeritus
March 19th 2013


6125 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

Love you boo

plane
Emeritus
March 19th 2013


6125 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

That is an aspect of his songwriting I want to start a discussion here about. I am playing a bit fast and loose here with artistic

intent and Frank's songwriting style, but the slightness of a song like "Lost" or "Crack Rock" doesn't feel too far removed from

"the point." No?



edit just throwing shit at the wall bro those words will get vomited sooner or later

oltnabrick
March 19th 2013


33388 Comments


wow plane u got him

plane
Emeritus
March 19th 2013


6125 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

Yeah man that's like 100% what I meant. I think it works wonder for the album.

sniper
March 19th 2013


19075 Comments


i concur with this page

FourthReich
March 19th 2013


20190 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5 | Sound Off

it's a pretty diverse page yeah haha

Omaha
Staff Reviewer
March 20th 2013


10506 Comments

Album Rating: 4.6 | Sound Off

i agree with most of what you said but just that one statement was extremely contradictory. i get what you were trying to say tho but i think it has more to do with Frank being in touch with a sense of artistic restraint. the songs aren't fleshed out in a formal manner because its appropriate to his conceptualization of the project, whether or not i personally find it successful as a whole, the intentionality of this gesture is what i think makes it generally accepted as such a success.




In an alternate universe, SilentPotato would always leave awesome comments like these. Damn, dude.



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