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plane
Staff Reviewer
March 19th 2013


6100 Comments


way more forward-thinking, nowhere near as fleshed out.

This, but I'd still probably rate it higher. Something about this album sounding half-finished/lacking denouements makes it deeper. He articulates the malaise of growing up in our cultural overload very well, and does so without even saying as much. The character sketches, the channel-surfing motif (abrupt mood shifts, extended time devoted to melodrama quickly dispensed when satisfaction has been obtained (Pyramids->Lost is best/worst pairing of any album stretch in 2012)), the melodies! It makes the album all very compelling and surprisingly unfussy, considering how many styles he jumps even in a matter of minutes. He speaks with the language of his peers but the soul of his elders.

sniper
March 19th 2013


19079 Comments


i like it better than 20/20 as well. this has really grown on me since it came out, when i sort of dismissed it as incomplete at the time. i think that he may be saved mostly by the channel-surfing concept, but that was certainly enough to give this a sense of unity that i didn't really pick up at first. 20/20 might break some ground in the pop sphere, but it isn't the personal album this is. JT simply isn't going to connect with me on the level ocean does.

Rev
March 19th 2013


9441 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

Great review dude, good to see you putting that staff status to good use


I really don't care for the album though. I like Frank, I just think the stellar tracks on here are few and far between

fromtheinside
March 19th 2013


19155 Comments


"Something about this album sounding half-finished/lacking denouements makes it deeper."

what? no. it speaks to either an inability to stretch these ideas to something fruitful which i don't believe because again pyramids, or that mr ocean is still unsure of what he wants to be recognized as, sound like and be remembered as when the records done.

Digging: Techno Animal - The Brotherhood of the Bomb

afoolonahill
March 19th 2013


137 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

popular so i hate it

Omaha
Staff Reviewer
March 19th 2013


10382 Comments

Album Rating: 4.6 | Sound Off

I really get what you're saying, Lewis. As Sniper said, the "channel-surfing" aspect of this album works so well for me, because it feels like a collection of snapshots from Ocean's life.

what? no. it speaks to either an inability to stretch these ideas to something fruitful which i don't believe because again pyramids, or that mr ocean is still unsure of what he wants to be recognized as, sound like and be remembered as when the records done.


In other words:

what? well i feel differently and i have different feelings and i can't quite fathom your feelings because i have mine and this is a rant and

Digging: Thou - Heathen

FourthReich
March 19th 2013


18136 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5 | Sound Off

not really a rant but ok. I still feel this album has too much filler, but damn are the standout tracks amazing

antigravity
March 19th 2013


522 Comments


sup fourthdyke

Omaha
Staff Reviewer
March 19th 2013


10382 Comments

Album Rating: 4.6 | Sound Off

I'll argue that Sweet Life is way better than Thinkin' 'Bout You ANYDAY! Come at me!

FourthReich
March 19th 2013


18136 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5 | Sound Off

heus amicus! who the fuck are ya

antigravity
March 19th 2013


522 Comments


yr mum

FourthReich
March 19th 2013


18136 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5 | Sound Off

oh didn't know you had a sput account!

antigravity
March 19th 2013


522 Comments


yep hi hunny

FourthReich
March 19th 2013


18136 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5 | Sound Off

hey hope dad isn't beatin the shit out of u still

antigravity
March 19th 2013


522 Comments


it's the other way around now

FourthReich
March 19th 2013


18136 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5 | Sound Off

lol

plane
Staff Reviewer
March 19th 2013


6100 Comments


what? no. it speaks to either an inability to stretch these ideas to something fruitful which i don't believe because again pyramids, or that mr ocean is still unsure of what he wants to be recognized as, sound like and be remembered as when the records done.

You haven't really countered what I said or responded to it, though I agree with you on the second part (more on that in a minute) and disagree with you on the first part. I genuinely enjoy every track here and think Frank fleshed them out to the degree he needed to for this particular album and its concept to work. Remember his age and his career, remember his open letter about love and acceptance, remember Forrest Gump. His detachment from ideas as they end speaks directly to his channel-surfing motif, which speaks directly to his age and targeted demographic. There's a unifying sense of self and willingness to open various dialogs on the subject of love, sexuality, gender, drugs, and dependency (on all of the above).

Like, we can disagree on the quality, but these ideas are fleshed out in execution because they are intended not to be.

edit cont. "Pyramids" being "the most fleshed out" is part of the point: you're channel surfing and land on some big climactic action sequence as it starts up. The intrigue will bring you along until the conclusion because otherwise it would lack cohesion and satisfaction. But suddenly satisfaction is obtained, so you flip the channel. Frank doesn't sequence this into the album as its climax, but right dead center. As if teens and twentysomethings (though this is, at this point, a universally distressing idea of passive viewing) are desensitized to even emotional overloading, so experiencing "Pyramids" doesn't make us turn off the stereo and contemplate gender and racial relations. We just skip to the next track/channel.

plane
Staff Reviewer
March 19th 2013


6100 Comments


Love you boo

plane
Staff Reviewer
March 19th 2013


6100 Comments


That is an aspect of his songwriting I want to start a discussion here about. I am playing a bit fast and loose here with artistic
intent and Frank's songwriting style, but the slightness of a song like "Lost" or "Crack Rock" doesn't feel too far removed from
"the point." No?

edit just throwing shit at the wall bro those words will get vomited sooner or later

oltnabrick
March 19th 2013


31573 Comments


wow plane u got him



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