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afoolonahill
March 19th 2013


174 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

popular so i hate it

Jade
Staff Reviewer
March 19th 2013


10632 Comments


I really get what you're saying, Lewis. As Sniper said, the "channel-surfing" aspect of this album works so well for me, because it feels like a collection of snapshots from Ocean's life.

what? no. it speaks to either an inability to stretch these ideas to something fruitful which i don't believe because again pyramids, or that mr ocean is still unsure of what he wants to be recognized as, sound like and be remembered as when the records done.


In other words:

what? well i feel differently and i have different feelings and i can't quite fathom your feelings because i have mine and this is a rant and

antigravity
March 19th 2013


522 Comments


sup fourthdyke

Jade
Staff Reviewer
March 19th 2013


10632 Comments


I'll argue that Sweet Life is way better than Thinkin' 'Bout You ANYDAY! Come at me!

antigravity
March 19th 2013


522 Comments


yr mum

antigravity
March 19th 2013


522 Comments


yep hi hunny

antigravity
March 19th 2013


522 Comments


it's the other way around now

plane
Emeritus
March 19th 2013


6287 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

what? no. it speaks to either an inability to stretch these ideas to something fruitful which i don't believe because again pyramids, or that mr ocean is still unsure of what he wants to be recognized as, sound like and be remembered as when the records done.


You haven't really countered what I said or responded to it, though I agree with you on the second part (more on that in a minute) and disagree with you on the first part. I genuinely enjoy every track here and think Frank fleshed them out to the degree he needed to for this particular album and its concept to work. Remember his age and his career, remember his open letter about love and acceptance, remember Forrest Gump. His detachment from ideas as they end speaks directly to his channel-surfing motif, which speaks directly to his age and targeted demographic. There's a unifying sense of self and willingness to open various dialogs on the subject of love, sexuality, gender, drugs, and dependency (on all of the above).



Like, we can disagree on the quality, but these ideas are fleshed out in execution because they are intended not to be.



edit cont. "Pyramids" being "the most fleshed out" is part of the point: you're channel surfing and land on some big climactic action sequence as it starts up. The intrigue will bring you along until the conclusion because otherwise it would lack cohesion and satisfaction. But suddenly satisfaction is obtained, so you flip the channel. Frank doesn't sequence this into the album as its climax, but right dead center. As if teens and twentysomethings (though this is, at this point, a universally distressing idea of passive viewing) are desensitized to even emotional overloading, so experiencing "Pyramids" doesn't make us turn off the stereo and contemplate gender and racial relations. We just skip to the next track/channel.

plane
Emeritus
March 19th 2013


6287 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

Love you boo

plane
Emeritus
March 19th 2013


6287 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

That is an aspect of his songwriting I want to start a discussion here about. I am playing a bit fast and loose here with artistic

intent and Frank's songwriting style, but the slightness of a song like "Lost" or "Crack Rock" doesn't feel too far removed from

"the point." No?



edit just throwing shit at the wall bro those words will get vomited sooner or later

oltnabrick
March 19th 2013


34596 Comments


wow plane u got him

plane
Emeritus
March 19th 2013


6287 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

Yeah man that's like 100% what I meant. I think it works wonder for the album.

sniper
March 19th 2013


19075 Comments


i concur with this page

Jade
Staff Reviewer
March 20th 2013


10632 Comments


i agree with most of what you said but just that one statement was extremely contradictory. i get what you were trying to say tho but i think it has more to do with Frank being in touch with a sense of artistic restraint. the songs aren't fleshed out in a formal manner because its appropriate to his conceptualization of the project, whether or not i personally find it successful as a whole, the intentionality of this gesture is what i think makes it generally accepted as such a success.


In an alternate universe, SilentPotato would always leave awesome comments like these. Damn, dude.

robertsona
Emeritus
March 20th 2013


15262 Comments


some of these songs aren't too great, especially toward the back but i underrated this initially i think

sniper
March 20th 2013


19075 Comments


music discussion on a music site

anarchistfish
March 20th 2013


24745 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

This has more ratings than house of balloons smh

Digging: Avelino - F.Y.O

anarchistfish
March 20th 2013


24745 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

They'll be stuck in your face if you don't go back and 5 it

RadicalEd
March 20th 2013


6728 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

Album has moments of utter genius(bad religion, pyramids and lost). But lacks consistency overall. Review is fine, although rating is to high imo, liked the personal touch, although it was mayyybe a little short.

Digging: Blood Orange - Freetown Sound

plane
Emeritus
March 20th 2013


6287 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

although, it doesn't explain why this album being as incoherent as it is, is a reason for praise. don't you think we've wasted that excuse on enough lazy artists? that they intend for things to sound incomplete, bad and at times repulsive?


I was just explaining what I think the album means, which plays into why I like the album quite a bit. It deserves the praise however for being front-to-back great pop music. I don't see what is repulsive or bad about any of the songs. An understanding of why the album carries a sense of "incomplete"-ness might help someone re-evaluate why they don't like the album. obv that is a matter of opinion, but this here is for discussion. Dislike on, brother. However...



you say he uses these brief teases like some sort of motif. i'm sure he'd had never realized the idea till you spoke the word.


The album is called Channel Orange. The dude knows. My mistake was implying the songs are not complete. They are. But they are designed to be all over the map, which might make initial components seem bare and unfinished.



this might be all I have to say on the matter, goodbye page



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