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emogangstascotty
July 18th 2007


472 Comments


this record is just plane shit

CreamCrazy
March 17th 2008


727 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

I had been hearing from loads of SP fans I know & BC himself that Zwan wasn't

very good... so I decided to look up some of their songs on Youtube, which were

Honestly & Lyric. I loved what I heard, & I realized I had seen the video for Lyric

back in 2003, when I had no idea who SP, BC or any music really was.



I then 3 days later, picked up the album & loved every minute of it. Billy's voice on

this album is amazing, better than some of his SP stuff. The other members

gelled well together & made some pretty good songs. Overall this album isn't as

bad as everyone says it is, to be honest. All the albums released by SP people

after the spilt is worth a listen, except BC's solo album, it would take a lot to

stomach it.



I wish Zwan was still around though... I would've loved them to have made

another album, seeing how this one was so good



Best Songs:



Lyric

Settle Down

Honestly

Of A Broken Heart

Heartsong

Endless Summer

Yeah!This Message Edited On 03.17.08

weepingwillowdown
August 20th 2008


29 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

Good solid album Jesus I/Mary Star Of The Sea is the best song on here so I disagree with that part. But overall I like Machina better.

foreverendeared
August 20th 2008


14677 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

haven't listened to this in about 5 years! i doubt i'd like this now

Oddsen
August 20th 2008


1127 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

zwan might've been better than zeitgiest

Lungingweasel
January 4th 2009


46 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

At first I wasn't sold on zwan, but after all this time; I finally get it. Billy is saving face and seeking god, but he is doing a hell of a job at it. A control freak like always; you never get a chance to hear or even discern anyone else on the album.





It's a shame really, after listening to all the bootlegs, none of the really great songs made it on the album. Only the happy, poppy ones. Zwan did have their dark moments "Riverview" and "Love is a Battlefield" to name a few.



The songs on the Spun soundtrack are a much better representation of the band overall I feel.



Asiatic667
January 4th 2009


4651 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

But overall I like Machina better.




machina is so underrated



JesusV4
January 10th 2010


391 Comments


I need to give this album a shot. The new Pumpkins suck, Machina is underrated, and I'm not looking for more Pumpkins. I'll approach it with an open mind

AKid2
September 4th 2010


16 Comments


The more I listen to the song Honestly, the more I realize how much of a piece of shit the rest of this album is. In all honesty, this album, rated song by song, would look like:

Lyric 1/5
(all other songs) 1/5
...
Honestly 5/5

How Honestly can be such a good song and the rest are so piss poor is downright hard to comprehend. Maybe James secretly helped write it, or it was originally written for the pumpkins; I have no idea.

I rarely rage this hard, but it's a crime of passion. I have never heard an album as good as Siamese Dream (MCATIS wasn't to be scoffed at either), and, relatively, this is an abomination. As is whatever crap the pumpkins are putting out now. Alright peace!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mu3jh91rCiY&p=4670E1E04D107858&playnext=1&index=6

SCREAMorphine
December 30th 2010


1797 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

Billy....

BigHans
March 5th 2014


28438 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

Lyric jams hard.



YoYou have you even heard this

BigHans
March 5th 2014


28438 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

lol this isnt even on Spotify

YoYoMancuso
March 5th 2014


12709 Comments


i'm scared to

stop calling me YoYou is that some sort of obscure primate

Digging: Gang of Youths - Go Farther in Lightness

BigHans
March 5th 2014


28438 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

sorry dude Im bombed, it happens.

oWhoadYo
December 14th 2015


1977 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

just checking this out, seems ok

cloudatlas
May 4th 2016


15 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

'SP for the kids', or the 'Honestly and the rest' would be a better name for this album



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