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mindleviticus
December 19th 2012


8403 Comments


ISIS all the way

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Gwyn.
December 19th 2012


15528 Comments


Also the pioneers of Post-Metal are Neurosis

evilford
December 19th 2012


23093 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

col and isis = both 4.9568236/5

evilford
December 19th 2012


23093 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

more than one artist/group can pioneer a genre/sound, this argument just happened earlier this week I think

Chortles
December 19th 2012


18280 Comments


nope only one

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Shuyin
December 19th 2012


12293 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

yea, we're discussing quality here not who started what



but Oceanic was a big influence in the post metal scene so..

Relinquished
December 19th 2012


27626 Comments


one of the main influences

Gwyn.
December 19th 2012


15528 Comments


"more than one artist/group can pioneer a genre/sound, this argument just happened earlier this week I think"

So a band can still be pioneer of genre when another pioneer is over ten years older?

I mean Neurosis has been going since 1985 and ISIS started in 1997.

Gwyn.
December 19th 2012


15528 Comments


I'm not arguing Isis' influence, that's undeniable, but pioneering?

Shuyin
December 19th 2012


12293 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

'So a band can still be pioneer of genre when another pioneer is over ten years older?'



well if you say it that way then.. yea

evilford
December 19th 2012


23093 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

'So a band can still be pioneer of genre when another pioneer is over ten years older?'



idk I guess it depends on what fake dictionary you're getting your "pioneer" definition from

Shuyin
December 19th 2012


12293 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

:]

Chortles
December 19th 2012


18280 Comments


pi-o-neer

evilford
December 19th 2012


23093 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

that's what I was thinking, pain of mind isn't really the original pm document

Ignimbrite
December 19th 2012


5548 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0



the logic behind the col vs isis vs neurosis debate is fucking retarded



post metal is somehow the only genre in the world where only the pioneering band can be good but all other genres there can be at least two or three makes sense right




This is the most intelligent thing anyone has posted here in forever.

evilford
December 19th 2012


23093 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

agreed

facupm
December 19th 2012


9229 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

Oceanic is much better

ManaYoodSushai
December 19th 2012


90 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

thanks for the comments guys, my first review and Oceanic is still amazing but Panopticon just has that edge.



If you havent you should check out their Mosquito control EP where they have some of their heaviest stuff

MikeC26
December 19th 2012


3236 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

potsy (:

zxlkho
December 19th 2012


3482 Comments


Neurosis' Through Silver in Blood was released in 1996, and so began post-metal. Isis then ripped off that album pretty much and here we are.

Of course I still love Isis but smd



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