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Wolfhorde
April 7th 2013


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same, black dude in my grade has no problem being called black. but he's pretty sensetive about any form of "niggah" (in comparison to a lot in the U.S. that guy doesn't even listen to music using that term)



Oh btw where in OZ are you actually from, tommy?

anarchistfish
April 7th 2013


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White people are just "American" but black people always seem to be labelled as "African American", as if they don't truly belong there. That's how it always came across to me

tommygun
April 7th 2013


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yeah fish it's dumb, the whites in america are all imports too but they don't get called english american or whatever

strange that the actual native americans get called indians

wolf I'm from adelaide in south australia

Digging: Sticky Fingers - Land of Pleasure

anarchistfish
April 7th 2013


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yeah fish it's dumb, the whites in america are all imports too but they don't get called english american or whatever

They do but I hear it much less frequently.

That's a whole other thing though, I don't get why people in the US consider themselves "Irish" or "Italian" solely because of ancestry

Wolfhorde
April 7th 2013


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Album Rating: 3.5

I don't think that's the reasoning of the term, actually I think that originally "African American" was a PC version of saying "black" because it refers to their skin color and carries racial connotations, "African American" doesn't do so.



Although I think you interpret a bit too much into that term, Fishy. I mean "blacks" or "African Americans" or what have you are now a part of the U.S. and inevitably a part of U.S. culture and the whole "ghetto culture" has gotten A LOT better over the last couple of decades.



How's Adelaide in comparison to Sydney and Melbourne? Also, are you a student or do you work? (I'm interested quite a bit in OZ since if I'm lucky I might be able to do a Master in (International) Comparative Law which would include a year in OZ)



@Fish: It's been pretty prevalent in our thinking for the majority of civilization, keep in mind that nations are a pretty "young" construct and a lot of these nations are also somewehat rooted in such notions. (I get your point though although it seems like you've been "lucky enough" to be raised in "two worlds")

clercqie
April 7th 2013


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strange that the actual native americans get called indians


Because the first colonists (Columbus etc.) thought they were in India, before they found out they found a new continent.

Wolfhorde
April 7th 2013


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Album Rating: 3.5

Pretty sure that's something that isn't entirely conclusive yet. At least regarding the part that they didn't know anything about America, the part that they thought they were in India seems believable.

anarchistfish
April 7th 2013


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I don't think that's the reasoning of the term, actually I think that originally "African American" was a PC version of saying "black" because it refers to their skin color and carries racial connotations, "African American" doesn't do so.

And that's the irony of it

seriously why are you a contributor

What have I said now?

Wolfhorde
April 7th 2013


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Album Rating: 3.5

"And that's the irony of it"

Not entirely, that's only the irony of it given your interpretation of the term. I highly doubt that people who came up with it had that in mind and I highly doubt anyone still has that in mind except for some idiotic (old school) racists.

(not everything was invented for derogatory or discriminating purposes or to express your power over someone, y'know)

tommygun
April 7th 2013


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@ wolf - adelaide is the 4th or 5th biggest city here (not that we have many)

it's more similar to melbourne than sydney (albeit much smaller) but it's pretty quiet and chilled out with beautiful hills
and a lot of winemakers and there's a good natured rivalry with melbourne mainly based around football

I spent the last few years working and travelling and have just gone back to study this year (science right now,
transferring to animal/veterinary science next year)

where in aus would you go to study?

clercqie
April 7th 2013


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Album Rating: 3.5

Pretty sure that's something that isn't entirely conclusive yet. At least regarding the part that they didn't know anything about America, the part that they thought they were in India seems believable.




That's what we were teached in either case. I agree that simple explanation isn't 100% believable. The Vikings already discovered Greenland in the 800's or so, so it's not like Columbus was the first European to set foot on America, that's for sure. Whethere the people in the Renaissance knew about the Vikings' discovery, that's a question which I don't know the answer to.

Maniac!
April 7th 2013


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Album Rating: 4.0

Sup guys.



iNTRiKeT fixed up a new mix you may want to hear. It's streaming here:



http://mediasnobs.com/2013/04/intriket-interview/

clercqie
April 7th 2013


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Album Rating: 3.5

Nice interview, although the questions are a bit basic. I enjoyed reading it, though.



No chance of a dl of the mix?

Wolfhorde
April 7th 2013


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Album Rating: 3.5

"That's what we were teached in either case. I agree that simple explanation isn't 100% believable. The Vikings already discovered Greenland in the 800's or so, so it's not like Columbus was the first European to set foot on America, that's for sure. Whethere the people in the Renaissance knew about the Vikings' discovery, that's a question which I don't know the answer to."



Well, yeah basic school education. The gist isn't necessarily wrong, it's more the details and leaving out details. I'm pretty sure I read about a Portugese colonist who actually knew about America - I'm not sure whether he was actually there but I'm pretty sure I read he knew about it. I also think there was a rumor at some point Columbus knew but on that I'm not so sure.

Also, from what I gathered the vikings actually made attempts to go further South (nowadays New England) but got their ass handed to them by the Native Americans.



"@ wolf - adelaide is the 4th or 5th biggest city here (not that we have many)



it's more similar to melbourne than sydney (albeit much smaller) but it's pretty quiet and chilled out with beautiful hills

and a lot of winemakers and there's a good natured rivalry with melbourne mainly based around football



I spent the last few years working and travelling and have just gone back to study this year (science right now,

transferring to animal/veterinary science next year)



where in aus would you go to study?"

Well, if everything goes according to my plans (meaning I'll be able to enroll in that uni I'm targeting here) the Master study program would include one year in Melbourne I think.

Quite frankly, I was more hinting to how prices there are (mostly for the basic stuff, groceries, housing and so on), maybe what you can do in your free time and how the folks are.

Maniac!
April 7th 2013


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Album Rating: 4.0

"Nice interview, although the questions are a bit basic. "



Agreed, but kind of necessary for a new artist doing his first interview, ya know?



I'll probably set it up for downloads later on!

Maniac!
April 7th 2013


26883 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

gtfo wolf we're talking about relevant things now

anarchistfish
April 7th 2013


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That's what we were teached in either case.


*taught

nonsensical irregular verb, bitch

Wolfhorde
April 7th 2013


14857 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

Chill, Fishy.

Maniac!
April 7th 2013


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Album Rating: 4.0

RELEVANT THINGS

Wolfhorde
April 7th 2013


14857 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

Attention whoring you mean.



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