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Wolfhorde
April 7th 2013


13865 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

Idk, I rarely rely on sole impressions when I want a general impression of their (national) culture, social tendencies and so on. What I've got about Germany, France and North America is mostly empiric evidence (aka shitlodas of impressions) + some sole impressions.



"Heard them stereotyped as racists on occasion though."

That's also something I heard of although I'm not too sure about that. I heard that in some parts they still say "spade" or some kind of other racial slur but I'm always wary of such things as they might just as well be urban rumors. (like you being able to marry animals in the U.S.)

tommygun
April 7th 2013


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hmm I wasn't aware of the racist thing and I don't know any racist people but then again i don't really associate with idiots

we get quite a lot of asian refugees coming to australia by boat and some of the rednecks complain about that, maybe that's where it comes from?

never heard "spade" used as an insult though, or know what it means as an insult (a spade is like a bigger flatter shovel)

there is an australian saying "he calls a spade a spade" meaning "he calls it as he sees it" though

tommygun
April 7th 2013


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ok just looked up spade and it's apparently a derogatory term towards african americans so dunno why you'd hear about
aussies saying that cos there aren't really any here

there is a bit of conflict between the aboriginals and the whites though

I've been harrassed and threatened by aboriginals in the city around half a dozen times, all completely unprovoked

Wolfhorde
April 7th 2013


13865 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

""he calls a spade a spade" meaning "he calls it as he sees it" though"

Well, guess where that comes from. Pretty sure it originated in the colonial times when using derogatory racial slurs for black people was still pretty normal, and saying spade was both this racial slur and as you said - a certain kind of shovel.



Although I think this racism thing was more pertaining old white people living further away from the coastlines where the majority of population lives.

"there is a bit of conflict between the aboriginals and the whites though



I've been harrassed and threatened by aboriginals in the city around half a dozen times, all completely unprovoked"

Not really surprising, you don't even need actual problems or problematic origins for social tensions between groups to appear. This is even more amplified with the whole "they took our land" thing.



Although yeah, OZ is supposedly pretty chill in general, a safehaven for investment and generally pretty well off financially from what I gathered. Job market's supposedly pretty tough tho.

fish.
April 7th 2013


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I hate the term "african american"

Wolfhorde
April 7th 2013


13865 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

Why? Regarding actual African Americans it's pretty accurate. I mean here we just say blacks or if we want to be PC (which we mostly do ironically) people with maximum pigmentation.

tommygun
April 7th 2013


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I would've said black but there are different kinds of black just like there's different kind of white, I just used that term for the sake of clarity

tommygun
April 7th 2013


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people get way too sensitive and PC about it hey

Wolfhorde
April 7th 2013


13865 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

same, black dude in my grade has no problem being called black. but he's pretty sensetive about any form of "niggah" (in comparison to a lot in the U.S. that guy doesn't even listen to music using that term)



Oh btw where in OZ are you actually from, tommy?

fish.
April 7th 2013


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White people are just "American" but black people always seem to be labelled as "African American", as if they don't truly belong there. That's how it always came across to me

tommygun
April 7th 2013


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yeah fish it's dumb, the whites in america are all imports too but they don't get called english american or whatever

strange that the actual native americans get called indians

wolf I'm from adelaide in south australia

fish.
April 7th 2013


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yeah fish it's dumb, the whites in america are all imports too but they don't get called english american or whatever

They do but I hear it much less frequently.

That's a whole other thing though, I don't get why people in the US consider themselves "Irish" or "Italian" solely because of ancestry

Wolfhorde
April 7th 2013


13865 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

I don't think that's the reasoning of the term, actually I think that originally "African American" was a PC version of saying "black" because it refers to their skin color and carries racial connotations, "African American" doesn't do so.



Although I think you interpret a bit too much into that term, Fishy. I mean "blacks" or "African Americans" or what have you are now a part of the U.S. and inevitably a part of U.S. culture and the whole "ghetto culture" has gotten A LOT better over the last couple of decades.



How's Adelaide in comparison to Sydney and Melbourne? Also, are you a student or do you work? (I'm interested quite a bit in OZ since if I'm lucky I might be able to do a Master in (International) Comparative Law which would include a year in OZ)



@Fish: It's been pretty prevalent in our thinking for the majority of civilization, keep in mind that nations are a pretty "young" construct and a lot of these nations are also somewehat rooted in such notions. (I get your point though although it seems like you've been "lucky enough" to be raised in "two worlds")

clercqie
April 7th 2013


6515 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

strange that the actual native americans get called indians


Because the first colonists (Columbus etc.) thought they were in India, before they found out they found a new continent.

Wolfhorde
April 7th 2013


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Album Rating: 3.5

Pretty sure that's something that isn't entirely conclusive yet. At least regarding the part that they didn't know anything about America, the part that they thought they were in India seems believable.

fish.
April 7th 2013


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I don't think that's the reasoning of the term, actually I think that originally "African American" was a PC version of saying "black" because it refers to their skin color and carries racial connotations, "African American" doesn't do so.

And that's the irony of it

seriously why are you a contributor

What have I said now?

Wolfhorde
April 7th 2013


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Album Rating: 3.5

"And that's the irony of it"

Not entirely, that's only the irony of it given your interpretation of the term. I highly doubt that people who came up with it had that in mind and I highly doubt anyone still has that in mind except for some idiotic (old school) racists.

(not everything was invented for derogatory or discriminating purposes or to express your power over someone, y'know)

tommygun
April 7th 2013


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@ wolf - adelaide is the 4th or 5th biggest city here (not that we have many)

it's more similar to melbourne than sydney (albeit much smaller) but it's pretty quiet and chilled out with beautiful hills
and a lot of winemakers and there's a good natured rivalry with melbourne mainly based around football

I spent the last few years working and travelling and have just gone back to study this year (science right now,
transferring to animal/veterinary science next year)

where in aus would you go to study?

clercqie
April 7th 2013


6515 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

Pretty sure that's something that isn't entirely conclusive yet. At least regarding the part that they didn't know anything about America, the part that they thought they were in India seems believable.




That's what we were teached in either case. I agree that simple explanation isn't 100% believable. The Vikings already discovered Greenland in the 800's or so, so it's not like Columbus was the first European to set foot on America, that's for sure. Whethere the people in the Renaissance knew about the Vikings' discovery, that's a question which I don't know the answer to.

Maniac!
April 7th 2013


26320 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

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