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chambered49
September 2nd 2012


1727 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0 | Sound Off

oh my fucking jesus fucking christ this album is blowing me the fucking away god fucking dammit holy SHIT thie fucking algbum

StrizzMatik
September 2nd 2012


4155 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5 | Sound Off

Oh damn we are just too cool for school aren't we

StrizzMatik
September 2nd 2012


4155 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5 | Sound Off

While you're there plz find out what genre Propagandhi is

StrizzMatik
September 2nd 2012


4155 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5 | Sound Off

Oh, and as numerous other posters have stated the phrase "progressive thrash" is just seriously silly. You didn't make it up either contrary to your claim other writers have used this exact same description to desribe this band (to equally inaccurate effect), so why are you using it? Bands site all sorts of influences but that hardly means their music can be clustered into a genre of music on that basis. Their sound really just isn't the same as the bands you mention, so how does your argument make sense? The phrase is unnecessary and vaguely annoying, particular when you go on to imply that A Wilhelm Scream is also Progressive Thrash. Totally inaccurate, I mean just really not even true in any way. You should consider removing the phrase, if for no other reason than it has received so many (I think, warranted) complaints.



Very good review overall!


The band themselves describe their music as "progressive thrash", more tongue-in-cheek than anything, but come on it's REALLY not much of a stretch... I don't understand how you can't hear the obvious musical influence from all of those bands, it's clear as day to me from the Rush-inspired chord voicings and tempo/time changes to the jazz/prog-flavored melodies that Hannah uses in his riffs, or the thrash musical cliches the band proudly (and cheesily) uses on EVERY record, but then again I'm a musician so I pick up on little things like that. Propagandhi meld punk, metal, hardcore, thrash, and progressive stylings into their music, genres are defined by their musical cliches, and this band dabbles freely in all of them. They're not just a "punk" band.



RiffOClock, have you ever listened to this band? Like ever?

ViperAces
September 2nd 2012


12596 Comments


Its spelled "land" in America.

Aids
September 2nd 2012


24509 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

riff would hate this band obviously



the thing is i dont think he realizes that nobody cares.



ps i listened to a pogrom song yesterday and it was awful :]

Aids
September 2nd 2012


24509 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

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donaldo11
September 2nd 2012


56 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

"the thrash musical cliches the band proudly (and cheesily) uses on EVERY record, but then again I'm a musician so I pick up on little things like that."





Was that a joke or a serious comment?



Anyways Beethoven, A Wilhelm Scream is not progressive thrash.

StrizzMatik
September 2nd 2012


4155 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5 | Sound Off

Never said they were dude. It was confusingly-worded, I was just making a direct comparison to the band because AWS is probably the only band I can think of in that style that can match or top Propagandhi. I'd say AWS is more of a punk/thrash hybrid with an Iron Maiden fetish and a lot more cheesy shred (even though it's awesome)

Spec
September 2nd 2012


39369 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

damn riff sucks

johnnyblaze
September 3rd 2012


3405 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

finally listened to this. damn, it rules. seriously great guitar work. lol'd hard at that native american monologue though..

StrizzMatik
September 3rd 2012


4155 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5 | Sound Off

^^ yeah I'm not gonna lie that threw me off, I laughed pretty hard. http://wabkinew.ca/propagandhi/ a translation from the guy who spoke it



BTW, made a bunch of edits and typo corrections to the review. I felt it was lacking a bit of detail and I wanted to touch on some other highlights of mine, and flesh out the review a bit better. The more I've listen to this, the more I'm convinced that this album is like AWS's transition from Ruiner to Career Suicide (kind of an ironic comparison really) in that some fans don't like the harder/faster/more tech direction as much as the more melodic, career-kitchen-sink elements of the prior. Personally I like them heavier and weirder, they do it so nice. And I CANNOT wait for Sheet Happens Publishing to release the tab book for this in the next month or two XD

johnnyblaze
September 3rd 2012


3405 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

sweet, todd met the guy who did the monologue training jiu-jitsu... that's pretty m/



the dudes in this band seem really chill. and i love that they haven't let down lyrically with age.. like not even a little bit. it's strangely endearing for me.



listened twice already and this is the tits - it really does flow well. very nice review strizz dude

StrizzMatik
September 3rd 2012


4155 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5 | Sound Off

Thanks man, pos it if you haven't. And yeah I wanted to go into the lyrics in the review but a.) they weren't available until now and b.) the album kicks ass with or without their amazing lyrics, politics be damned. That's why I consider them one of the last truly great bands of our time.

donaldo11
September 3rd 2012


56 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

Not sure I agree with the Career Suicide evolution comparison. Career Suicide was a seriously large step up in the technicality department compared to Ruiner, whereas this one is more of a step sideways in the tech. department (nothing on this album rivals the solo at the beginning of Dear Coach's Corner, for example.



If anything, this album has almost has less riffage/solos than I thought it would (although the bass work is seriously epic at multiple parts. There are some more funky and wild chords here though).



This album is harder, that is true, but its not as if Supporting Caste was exactly a poppy little romp either. It was perfectly hard in its own right. It actually had that great/rare combination of being both hard and catchy. I'm just not sure being more catchy is neccassarily synonymous with being less hard. If anything, I think there is a case to be made that Supporting Caste was a superior album precisely because it was able to do both things so effectively (being hard and catchy simultaneously).



Career Suicide was such an obvious step up in so many ways. I would go so far to say its arguably the greatest punk album ever written.



This album doesn't strike me as being nearly so much a step up in quality as being more of just an album that is just different (but not clearly nor obviously better) than the last one. Not a bad thing, both albums are great in their own right but this album really just doesn't have that, "holy fuck, what the fuck am I hearing? I just shit myself" out of nowhere surprise quality that Career Suicide did at all. This album was about what I expected give or take, which for me means it really can't compare to the evolution between Ruiner and CS.

donaldo11
September 3rd 2012


56 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

Touche good sir. Touche.

StrizzMatik
September 3rd 2012


4155 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5 | Sound Off

I wouldn't say there's no musical advancement from Supporting Caste to this at all. That album was arguably a step backward in songwriting from PCL and more of a refinement of their sound than an evolution, had some great songs and had moments of real crunch at times, but this album to me is quite a bit heavier and a LOT more technical than their old work as a whole, the songs are richer musically to me. The Dear Coaches Corner solo is fun as fuck but more about the attitude than the notes/tech really (get the tab book for SC if you don't have it!). I'm a sucker for those big expansive voicings and chord changes Hannah uses moreso than the shred itself.



I love AWS and every album from Mute Print > on, but they're not as good as Prop is to me, Career Suicide included, which to me borrows HEAVILY from Propagandhi, especially TETA.

Observer
Emeritus
September 3rd 2012


9393 Comments


Rushed this out in like 15 minutes


why would a reviewer admit this

StrizzMatik
September 3rd 2012


4155 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5 | Sound Off

I've gone back and added a lot more since then...

Wizard
September 4th 2012


20508 Comments


been seeing this around lately, is this highly recommended

Nah, it's alot like their older material except a bit more thrashier. More aggressive doesn't equate to better.



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