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TheMoreira
January 13th 2013



2942 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

Holy shit.. Tears came to my eyes watching that video. Faith in For Today has been restored :'

AND FUCK YES Ex ITMOL GUITARRIST FUCK FUCKING YES!!

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Evreaia
January 13th 2013



3061 Comments

Album Rating: 1.5

lol at the video

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Wolfhorde
January 13th 2013



11286 Comments


"and to begin working toward full-time missions work in the Middle East"
fucking lol. When will people get that shoving something down other people's throat will never lead to change?

Tyrael
January 13th 2013



18634 Comments


Well this was disappointing

Breaker was damn awesome

TheMoreira
January 14th 2013



2942 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

For Today will slay on their next album. The arrival of a new For Today album shall be awaited with purpose and joy.

Evreaia
January 14th 2013



3061 Comments

Album Rating: 1.5

not really, i'll just be more breakdowns and Christ cock sucking

someguest
January 14th 2013



14560 Comments


fucking lol. When will people get that shoving something down other people's throat will never lead to change?


Some people use it as an excuse to serve. Clearly this guy isn't, but still.

andcas
January 14th 2013



57722 Comments


fuck this band and every one of their fans.

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Evreaia
January 14th 2013



3061 Comments

Album Rating: 1.5

first time me and andcas agree, fuck

Wolfhorde
January 14th 2013



11286 Comments


"Some people use it as an excuse to serve. Clearly this guy isn't, but still."
However 'serving' is something positive.

someguest
January 14th 2013



14560 Comments


People who do mission work do positive things. Good still comes out of their flawed reasoning for doing it.

andcas
January 14th 2013



57722 Comments


"first time me and andcas agree, fuck"

you're like the 10th user to say that this week.

Cygnatti
January 14th 2013



8950 Comments


crap band

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Wolfhorde
January 14th 2013



11286 Comments


"People who do mission work do positive things. Good still comes out of their flawed reasoning for doing it."
I was talking more general. Since "serving" is somewhat/almost synonumous with doing things without thinking. Serving the the British Empire, serving the German Reich, serving Hitler, serving for your country - the whole 'chain of command' story.

Now mind you, I'm not trying to generalize this here. Just saying there is a negative association possible. Also, in case you're not up to speed there's also a lot of shit happening out of "good intentions" - especially in terms of trying to help "less advanced countries". (ruining nomadic trade in African deserts => them moving further South mowing down native black farmers, interfering with systems that balanced themselves out => overpopulation/scarce food, interfering with cultures..)

someguest
January 14th 2013



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Now mind you, I'm not trying to generalize this here. Just saying there is a negative association possible. Also, in case you're not up to speed there's also a lot of shit happening out of "good intentions" - especially in terms of trying to help "less advanced countries". (ruining nomadic trade in African deserts => them moving further South mowing down native black farmers, interfering with systems that balanced themselves out => overpopulation/scarce food, interfering with cultures..)


I was talking about volunteering on an individual level, or why an individual would do it. Of course, when superpowers help "less advanced countries" it's usually for some sort of personal gain, the clearest example still being the US Military's involvement in the Middle East, which has turned out to be our biggest national fuck-up since Vietnam.

Wolfhorde
January 14th 2013



11286 Comments


Some of the things I listed weren't necessarily any superpowers or anything of the like but either way I agree with the whole volunteering on an individual level. All I'm sayin' anyway is be wary of these things. Easy to tread down the way of the slippery slope.

someguest
January 14th 2013



14560 Comments


Exactly. I've thought about the Peace Corps and whatnot. What are they spending much of their time doing? Teaching English. Bogus.

Wolfhorde
January 14th 2013



11286 Comments


It still makes me cringe when some people think an Afghan farmer who doesn't know jackshit about what any Western troops want from him are "sympathizing with terrorists". They probably wouldn't even understand them properly if they spoke English - or knew anything of relevancy.

someguest
January 14th 2013



14560 Comments


Personally I like how we call people defending their land in Afghanistan 'terrorists'. We call the same people in America 'patroits'.

Wolfhorde
January 14th 2013



11286 Comments


Eh, I don't think it's that easy while I can understand your point and the principle you're hinting at. The more appropriate term would be "guerrilla fighters", 'cause let's be honest you can't fool anyone into thinking this isn't a guerilla war anymore.



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