Ne Obliviscaris Portal of I
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taylormemer
May 29th 2012


4917 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

It's pretty easy to be truly original. It's just that 90% of musicians choose not to be, or faslely believe they are, when they clearly aren't.

Wolfhorde
May 29th 2012


13648 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

"It's pretty easy to be truly original. It's just that 90% of musicians choose not to be, or faslely believe they are, when they clearly aren't."
Great, enlighten us since you seem to have the eternal wisdom of the total meaning of "original".

"Taking into account that most metal bands simply repeat a formula while adding only few improvements, bands that create a synthesis of so many sub-genres while adding elements from other genres such as jazz or flamenco are so rare in comparison that they can be perceived as original.

Whatever YOUR definition of "originality", I still maintain that I most likely won't enjoy this band as much as Ana Kefr making the latter better, in my opinion."
Yeah, so what? By definition:
a. Not derived from something else; fresh and unusual: an original play, not an adaptation.
b. Showing a marked departure from previous practice; new: a truly original approach. See Synonyms at new.
3. Productive of new things or new ideas; inventive: an original mind.
4. Being the source from which a copy, reproduction, or translation is made.

I don't see it. Stuff has been done before. Taking a huge part of musicians out of context and saying what they do in comparison to what one band does who represents also a larger part of musicians is not really an argument. If we wanna go on a level of specific argumentation we gotta be specific and also look at circumstances, not just go with some kind of blanket statement generalization.

kingsoby1
Emeritus
May 29th 2012


4950 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

i feel like this is incredibly "original". ana kefr was not so much... kind of felt like pretty generic deathy prog.

Evreaia
May 29th 2012


4045 Comments


You heard their debut or the burial tree? The first thing they made was kinda sucky, but that last one was most certainly just as good as this, even better perhaps (for me it was).

That album just always does the exact opposite of what you thought it would, This is so predictable compared to Ana Kefr.

Either way different genre.

Buzzkillr
May 29th 2012


1541 Comments


"I don't see it. Stuff has been done before. Taking a huge part of musicians out of context and saying what they do in comparison to what one band does who represents also a larger part of musicians is not really an argument. If we wanna go on a level of specific argumentation we gotta be specific and also look at circumstances, not just go with some kind of blanket statement generalization.
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Could you please provide some examples of bands similar to Ana Kefr, because I have yet to find any.

And following your definitions of "originality", this probably isn't either.

Gmork89
May 29th 2012


5516 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

Pretty cool album, really dig the Townsend influence.

BigPleb
May 29th 2012


37218 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

That average rating...

Digging: Kayo Dot - Coffins on Io

Wolfhorde
May 29th 2012


13648 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

"Could you please provide some examples of bands similar to Ana Kefr, because I have yet to find any.

And following your definitions of "originality", this probably isn't either."
I never said anything about similarities in sense of a similar style but in a sense of elements and certain structures/methods that have been used before. Mashups of Prog, Death and whatever, mashups with symphonic influences and similar. We have it here, we have it with Ana Kefr, we have it with bands like Dornenreich, Drautran, Septic Flesh, Hidden in The Fog, Mirrothrone, Transcending Bizarre?, Sigh, Lykathea Aflame and so on. And they're just partly rather "modern" ones. Certain aspects we already had before.

And I'm gonna repeat myself for the case you haven't already read it: I think they're both not "original", they're good but bands but sure as hell not anything really "original".


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derkaderka
May 29th 2012


60 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

I listened to the first half of The Burial Tree and wasn't too impressed. The second half was much better but I still don't think they come anywhere near Ne Obliviscaris.

heyadam
May 29th 2012


1715 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Really, really digging this.

Digging: Aaron West and The Roaring Twenties - We Don't Have Each Other

Ending
May 29th 2012


1917 Comments


Interested am I.

Xenophanes
Emeritus
May 29th 2012


10614 Comments


I doubt that this is anywhere near as good as people are saying but hey i'll check it out and see for myself.

Digging: Kayo Dot - Coffins On Io

kingsoby1
Emeritus
May 29th 2012


4950 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

Do you like progressive metal? If u do u will like this.

D41V30N
May 29th 2012


949 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0

As far as "originality" is concerned, Ne Obliviscaris is obviously more original. But as far as "maturity" is concerned, the sound of The Burial Tree of Ana Kefr is superior to Portal Of I. No matter how good or original the album is, it's all over the place. It's over-ambitious and tries to go over everyone's heads - but the songwriting holds it back. The progressions from one part of the song to another is really terrible at times, and the drummer makes it worse. Ana Kefr does a much better job in this section. Also, the cleans in Ana Kefr were much better, and the guitar solos were melodic rather than being aimlessly complex.

Yeah, Portal Of I is a VERY fresh listen. That's probably why everyone's so hyped about it. But in actuality, it becomes quite boring and dull at times. Why? Because it really lacks parts which are really "memorable"; it has its moments, but in comparison to Ana Kefr, it doesn't. And even though I find it's "all over the place" progressions terrible, maybe some actually find them good.

Also, Ana Keft's record is a grower and this is more like an "ungrower" - first listen is the best, and then it starts to drop in quality. Give it a month or two and it'd be forgotten. People would probably still argue about how "good" this is - people who have stopped listening to the album and moved on to other albums, that is.

Gmork89
May 29th 2012


5516 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0


Pretty much what kingsoby1 said, though I don't think it's a masterpiece by any means.


chug73
May 29th 2012


1157 Comments


pree good

chug73
May 29th 2012


1157 Comments


lets all name drop obscure prog bands we think are better then this in the hope someone turns around and lauds us with praise about how good our pr0g taste is.

chug73
May 29th 2012


1157 Comments


I know who Colin Stetson is and that message wasn't directed at you. By all means continue getting mad on the internet.

chug73
May 29th 2012


1157 Comments


no need to be an asshole. I know it's your thing but still...

chug73
May 29th 2012


1157 Comments


oh don't make me blush



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