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morrissey
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March 14th 2006


1688 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

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Two-Headed Boy
March 20th 2006


4527 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

The girl looks like my neighbor.

DFelon204409
Emeritus
March 24th 2006


3995 Comments


I heard this crap on the radio and decided to investigate more considering their high rank on the front page. I am incredibly disappointed. Whenever they have something cool going they throw in something token and indie. Also, their tone sucks often.

2muchket!
March 24th 2006


900 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Yo have to admit tho' the lyrics are very good, even if they are very english.

Waterloo_Sunset
March 24th 2006


452 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0 | Sound Off

Dfelon jus wait til you see the music video for the Sun goes Down - its awful! Then u will see how token and amateurish they are! they produce good student anthems but if you over 25 or quite mature for your age these guys arent for you!

DFelon204409
Emeritus
March 24th 2006


3995 Comments


Mr. Amsterdam, the lyrics suck. I just read up on them. Read this: http://www.lyricsmania.com/lyrics/arctic_monkeys_lyrics_4351/whatever_people_say_i_am,_that's_what_i'm_not_lyrics_17367/fake_tales_of_san_francisco_lyrics_200899.html . That's painfully poor.

Liberi Fatali
Emeritus
March 24th 2006


1588 Comments


Well thats entirely subjective.

DFelon204409
Emeritus
March 24th 2006


3995 Comments


No. No it's not.

Liberi Fatali
Emeritus
March 24th 2006


1588 Comments


Yes it is.

morrissey
Moderator
March 24th 2006


1688 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

Artic Monkeys have decent lyrics in terms of representing their lifestyle. Of all the bands whose lyrics deserve to be attacked, these guys aren't very high on the list. They have very weak aspects, to be sure, but lyrics aren't one of them.

DFelon204409
Emeritus
March 24th 2006


3995 Comments


Okay Liberi, everybody has a right to an opinion, however who are you going to trust, Mr. Amsterdam who we know nothing about, or me who is known to take college classes in creative writing, mods the s&l forum here and wins them contests in there. Though you personally may not agree with me, who would tend to trust more at qualifying a band's lyrics?

Also, morrissey, that is true about the list of bands who deserved to be attacked for bad lyrics, but that doesn't make them good.

DFelon204409
Emeritus
March 24th 2006


3995 Comments


That's because there's no critic who would consent to liking GunsnRoses.

DFelon204409
Emeritus
March 24th 2006


3995 Comments


Spat out, you're missing the point, this isn't about what you like or dislike, it's about quality. I like NOFX a lot but the quality of music they are creating is lower than that of a band like Thrice. An educated opinion can make that qualification.

Zesty Mordant
March 24th 2006


1196 Comments


but everybody's personal criteria for defining what's "quality" differs. That's why there is an arguement here in the first place.

DFelon204409
Emeritus
March 24th 2006


3995 Comments


Yes, but everybody can respect something like a published poet or receiving a degree in something. It's what would make somebody want to hire one as a critic over some average joe. There's is some universality to how to observe quality. What I'm saying is that you should trust my opinion more because of xyz reasons of education.

DFelon204409
Emeritus
March 24th 2006


3995 Comments


Everybody cares. Understanding what makes something subjective good or bad is incredibly interesting and perplexing!

Liberi Fatali
Emeritus
March 24th 2006


1588 Comments


What I'm saying is that you should trust my opinion more because of xyz reasons of education.

Bill Gates is a dropout. This Message Edited On 03.24.06

Zesty Mordant
March 24th 2006


1196 Comments


Yes, but everybody can respect something like a published poet or receiving a degree in something. It's what would make somebody want to hire one as a critic over some average joe. There's is some universality to how to observe quality. What I'm saying is that you should trust my opinion more because of xyz reasons of education.

True, but that depends. Some people (idiots) couldn't care less about artistic culture and want straight no-frills entertainment, and others enjoy appreciating everything across the spectrum of quality(though it could certainly be exhausting). Their definition of quality is different from others and this where bands like The Arctic Monkeys fit in.

DFelon204409
Emeritus
March 24th 2006


3995 Comments


His pedigree is his self-education and what he has accomplished. You're citing a 1/1000000 case in all of drop outs. Citing one example contrary to the norm doesn't excuse all the cases of drop outs failing. It's only for people like Steve Jobs and Bill Gates who are going to establish their worth outside of education that you can make the assertion that it doesn't matter.

If you didn't know anything about Bill Gates, and you were given the resume of Bill Gates right after he dropped out versus the resume of a recent Harvard grad, who would you hire? It's a no brainer.

DFelon204409
Emeritus
March 24th 2006


3995 Comments


Spat Out, sure bias exists. You can tell that in the course of reading reviews. I admitted I was biased in my Thrice review, but that review still managed to be voted the best review of the year by sputnik users. Biased isn't necessarily bad. It gives you insight into the voice and views of the critic and allows you to shape your understanding of how you're going to view the thing, in my case Vheissu.



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