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TrantaLocked
March 26th 2014


1634 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

My issue is that it seems like this is more about enjoying the concept rather than the music itself. I am not looking for a chaotic mechanical sound that is extremely repetitive just because that is the point. I am looking for enjoyable music. I don't want to pretend like I am connecting with how it is mechanical and shit to enjoy it somehow.

Emyay
March 26th 2014


6033 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

"getting it" is rarely a conscious effort. you just listen a bunch and one day you get it

tempest--
March 26th 2014


15276 Comments


"it seems like this is more about enjoying the concept rather than the music itself"

not at all, but really, it doesn't matter in the slightest if you don't get it... some people just don't
nothing to spout off 5 pages of shitposting about, like those propose or betray fags a few pages back

TrantaLocked
March 26th 2014


1634 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

It is interesting also that people are more open to discussion in this thread but I get hammered on if I ever talk about death metal short of praise. People seem pretty defensive of death metal (classic, not the newer or melodic stuff).

InbredJed
March 26th 2014


6111 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

Consider your audience

TheMoreira
March 26th 2014


7183 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

"I don't want to pretend like I am connecting with how it is mechanical and shit to enjoy it somehow.

"



Of course not man, but you do realise that's not the reason why we enjoy it right? The atmosphere of

one Meshuggah album becomes engulfing, hypnotic after you grasp it. When i saw them live i remember it

was the most tribal musical experience i had ever gone through. The constant pounding, the heavy tone,

the dissonance.. All of it works together to blast your senses



EDIT: if i gotta compare, Gojira have some of that atmosphere too, mainly in their longer songs. I

mean the heaviness and somewhat hypnotic effect caused by repetition and such.

Emyay
March 26th 2014


6033 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

they are amazing live

Jacquibim
Contributing Reviewer
March 26th 2014


15726 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

"i've never seen anyone with a Meshuggah album scored at a 2/2.5 going in depth in the band's ability/lack of ability regarding some musical aspect of the respective album"



I've seen Simba post a lot of legitimate quarrels with the band's execution of their ideas only to get called a faggot repeatedly. Not to mention, most of the praises that pop up are "fuck this is heavy/goes hard/so good" "dat groove/dem drumz/polyrhyums".



Now I do like a quite a bit of this band's stuff, even Catch33 which is their most repetitive album by far, but I find album's like this and Obzen boring because instead of coming across as robotic/sinister/sci-fi/whatever, they're just disjointed and snoozy, pummeling you for the sake of pummeling you.



An in depth technical analysis isn't necessary to demonstrate that you "get it" and also to double as a reason for why you don't like it. Read necro's review for Obzen and have a look at the reaction he gets even in light of the detail he went into explaining why he hated it.



But yeah, sorry for the essay, but I don't buy into the not getting it/that's the point argument, because as I said it can apply to any fucking band/artist you can name.

Digging: Vril - Portal

TheMoreira
March 26th 2014


7183 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Really are, kings, tbh.



Anyway there a shit ton of sub genres in and around metal that i "don't get". Oranges and apples, to each its own

BigPleb
March 26th 2014


39641 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

lol Jac, contrib speech.

TrantaLocked
March 26th 2014


1634 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Would you say thrash fans would dig this band more than not?

TheMoreira
March 26th 2014


7183 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

You have a point, i do recall Simba's discussion now, actually.

TheMoreira
March 26th 2014


7183 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

@tranta, was that question for me?

tempest--
March 26th 2014


15276 Comments


"Now I do like a quite a bit of this band's stuff"

my point is more about people that hate the band and everything they've done. clearly if you like anything by them then you must at some level understand what they try to do with their music.
"they're just disjointed and snoozy, pummeling you for the sake of pummeling you."

perfectly reasonable argument

I'm really talking about people "not getting it" when they post shit like "all it is is repetition and it's boring and nothing ever changes" you know, that kind of thing. the people that dislike the band for the FUNDAMENTAL THINGS THAT MAKE THEM ENJOYABLE TO EVERY FAN

TrantaLocked
March 26th 2014


1634 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Nah, towards anyone, just thinking because I think thrash in general has a repetitive feel.

TheMoreira
March 26th 2014


7183 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

I for one know a LOT of people that are into Thrash and love these guys. Other than that, there are

clearly some grabs in this band (for any open minded Thrash lover).



Agree with Tempest again. I was generalizing back there but yeah of course there are some people that

can make a point on their disliking of Meshuggah. I can also justify why i like some of Meshuggah

releases more than i like others. So as of course there are always negative aspects to take in

account, some folks will get there.

Jacquibim
Contributing Reviewer
March 26th 2014


15726 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

"fundamental things that make them enjoyable to every fan"



Yeah I understand what you're saying but that just brings me back the "that's the point" thing. I mean you always see tech death bands being condemned for their overuse of technicality of all things, now that may seen stupid on the surface but in a lot of cases it's pretty sound.



Whether or not I believe somebody doesn't "get it" (which in the end is only my opinion) doesn't mean their issue with the bands' approach isn't a legitimate one.

TheMoreira
March 26th 2014


7183 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

"I mean you always see tech death bands being condemned for their overuse of technicality of all

things, now that may seen stupid on the surface but in a lot of cases it's pretty sound."



That is one extremely good point for your side of the argument Jac. I got that upon listening to Spawn

Of Possession.

tempest--
March 26th 2014


15276 Comments


a very good comparison, but clearly "overuse" of something is bad, therefore those bands deserve (lack of thinking of a better word) their criticism. that is obviously not an objective thing though, as people enjoy listening to this "overuse," as we're calling it - they probably would not call it the same thing.

Relinquished
March 26th 2014


27221 Comments


"most of the praises that pop up are "fuck this is heavy/goes hard/so good""

mostly every pleb post ever

lrn2selfaware



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