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Album Rating: 3.5
Ever since their 1998 debut,
Premiers Symptomes came out in '97
watching Air walk on the slither of a line between their indie-pop foundation and strong post-rock and ambient tendencies has never failed to intrigue.
Again, no
Of course, it hasn't always yielded fantastic results, but the sudden appearance of Talkie Walkie in 2004 showed that these two Frenchmen still have the capacity for creating great, experimental music.
What sudden appearance? It was announced and then subsequently released
It's with this stretch towards creating someone else's atmosphere that we really begin to see Air's weaknesses,
How so? I mean, have you even heard The Virgin Suicides OST?
Simply put, Le Voyage Dans La Lune does not feel like an Air LP.
Because maybe they're "creating someone else's atmosphere maybe? I mean this is a soundtrack for the most part
leaving only small patches to remind us that this is not a compilation disk.
What do you mean by "compilation disc"?
In fairness, these blunders (and I say blunders because the resemblance is far too strong to be ignored)
Homages are blunders?
with Parade feeling more at home on a Ratatat release and a few guitar riffs echoing as far back as Pink Floyd.
Why are we italicizing song names and artist names?
Harking back to the duo's more favourable days.
This is not a sentence
So while certainly not a complete train-wreck,
Did you write this before or after you decided this album was good? Sidenote: never elude to an album being not good enough in the summary of all places, especially when that summary sits directly under your rating of good
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Still don't see how you can dismiss the tags completely either, because the characteristics are there. But I don't know, maybe there's some weird-ass genre which fully encompasses them in its entirety. Post-something-dance-something-core or... something.
No, there is no weird ass genre maybe because those characteristics don't exist. Where, in any of Air's works, are you hearing post rock at all?
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but can you write me a review dev?
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What review? You're the second person to ask me this in about as many days
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well the other person was probably me too, but you should review a weird al album and let me post it
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No
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Holy step by step criticism, Batman!
Some of that I've already noticed myself, though some more of it I think is a mixture of vagueness on my part and an eagerness to belittle on yours. The "sudden appearance", for instance, was just alluding to the fact that 10,000 Hz was a let down and an indication that maybe these guys only had one great album in them.
Oh, and I didn't call it bad in the summary, just a bit dull. Dull can still be good, but never more than just "good", which is why it's rated as... "good".
Post-Rock influences can be found in this very LP :/ Not a load, sure I'll give you that, but even in earlier releases there's been glimpses of it. Though some might choose just to file them under ambient - I just don't like calling everything ambient.
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well i tried you cant blame me for that
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so many words holy fuck way too long
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Holy step by step criticism, Batman!
Apparently this process is new to you Robin
and an eagerness to belittle on yours.
There's no eagerness to belittle, but I mean.... if you think that my pointing out faults/criticism in this review is akin to some kind of playground bullying, thus making you feel better about it (?), then ok
The "sudden appearance", for instance, was just alluding to the fact that 10,000 Hz was a let down and an indication that maybe these guys only had one great album in them.
Again, I don't really see how a group putting out an apparently good album after an apparently bad album could be considered as a sudden appearance - return to form, maybe?
Oh, and I didn't call it bad in the summary, just a bit dull. Dull can still be good, but never more than just "good", which is why it's rated as... "good".
No, you said it was passable, but when has passable ever been good enough, right after you labelled it as good. That's why 1 + 1 will never = 3
Post-Rock influences can be found in this very LP :/
Nope - there's some nods to old school prog and even some Krautrock (ugh) but not here, or in any Air release, has there ever been post rock
Though some might choose just to file them under ambient - I just don't like calling everything ambient.
Well there's no ambient either - these guys have always been a chillout group, which is completely different and unrelated
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so do you wanna write my review is that a yes?
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I think I'm obliged to be just a little defensive after two pages of criticism. Don't you think? Call it an imprint of playground bullying (which is rather an ironic reply to accusations of belittlement), but your keen intent on ripping apart a review that we've acknowledged is bad begs the question of "why". This isn't the first time you've done this after all. Not to say that I completely dismiss the criticism, I just take issue with the way it's packaged.
Considering that I got into Air initially through recommendations from ambient pages, lists and friends who worship the genre, can you really say that there is no ambient?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFjJngqc8z4
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so many words
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Call it an imprint of playground bullying (which is rather an ironic reply to accusations of belittlement), but your keen intent on ripping apart a review that we've acknowledged is bad begs the question of "why".
It's not ironic in the slightest when you seem to be under the impression that I'm working towards some kind of goal by doing this - if you're upset about such criticism don't publish on the internet if what you think I'm doing is belittling you or your work
This isn't the first time you've done this after all.
You think this is the first time there's been a bad review on Sputnik?
Not to say that I completely dismiss the criticism, I just take issue with the way it's packaged.
I took issue with the way this review is packaged, as such i bought it to light. I haven't said that you're a terrible reviewer, that this is shit, or that you should never review again. I said it wasn't a good review, and then backed that up with examples
Considering that I got into Air initially through recommendations from ambient pages, lists and friends who worship the genre, can you really say that there is no ambient?
Yes
Now that that's settled, lets talk about the indie pop and the post rock
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haha oh man
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Okay, look I'm not in the mood for this stuff today. So can I lay it all out and be done with it?
I acknowledge what you're trying to do, which is criticise and, I guess, make sure I don't churn out
a review this bad again. No, I don't feel in any way bullied or threatened. Just don't expect me to
enjoy such damning, public critisism. Especially when I've had all of 5 hours sleep in the last 3
days and the way you critisise is decidedly cold.
Whether we agree or not, I sincerely believe there is a lot of ambient to be found. Same with indie
pop, of which the kind of catchy, washed out delivery is shared. Post-rock, I will concede, is an
incredibly tenuous claim and in the end I included it because, you know, 3's and all. Why I never
even thought of mentioning psychedelic rock is beyond me. I've never been good with genres.
I don't have the heart for re-writing this review, so I'll just leave it here and let yours
(presumably) take up the slack. If you could give me an indication of whether my next review is
better (whenever I write it) that would be much appreciated.
Now I need to get some sleep, sorry.
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Nighty night
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he aint scared bro
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