Album Rating: 5.0
I'd say London Calling is way more of a pop record than any Ramones record
People actually thought Ramones were heavy when that shit came out
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Album Rating: 4.0
Then do the same with the Undertones, Dickies, and Buzzcocks
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I guess the question is if ramones and descendents are pop punk then what the fuck is punk?
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Album Rating: 4.0
London Calling is poppy, but its barely even punk compared to their earlier stuff.
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social distortion. pop punk or punk?
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Album Rating: 5.0
It's not pop punk or hardcore like black and white ya know
Punk can be melodic without being pop-punk, that's how punk started
Simple catchy music with a hard edge
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Album Rating: 3.5
pop punk, in the true sense of the term, is a 90s movement. did ramones influence pop punk? certainly. were they pop punk? nope. in contemporary times you can pin them down however you like but at the time they were seen as punk rock groups.
undertones and buzzcocks, same story.
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Album Rating: 4.0
there's people who haven't heard this wat
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Ramones are practically the epitome of pop punk
Undertones and buzzcocks are awesome pop punk bands
Social d is NOT pop punk at all
Poppy =/= pop punk
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Doesn't matter of the genre name wasn't coined yet it's still pop punk
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lol where the fuck have you been?
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Album Rating: 4.0
exactly.
I had this lil talk with andcas.
when black sabbath started nobody called them metal. but they're metal now even though metal has changed alot over the years.
the ramones, buzzcocks, undertones, etc are pop punk. they're just older and the genre wasnt named yet.
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Album Rating: 5.0
ummmm that's way different, Black Sabbath were metal, they didn't just influence it
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Album Rating: 4.0
the ramones are pop punk. no difference
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gonna have to disagree with you on that one trebor lol
last time i checked, black sabbath were the BIGGEST influence on metal.
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oh nvmd i didn't see the "just" i thought you were saying they didn't influence metal
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Album Rating: 5.0
I'm pretty sure I know more about punk than Yankee just sayin
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but Yankee knows everything can't you tell?
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Album Rating: 3.5
i'm gonna agree to disagree Yankee because i'm trying to watch el clasico and you dig magazine so we should be bros
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Album Rating: 4.0
Pretty big difference between the Ramones, Buzzcocks, and Undertones and shit like early Clash, The Damned, and Sex Pistols.
So then if those guys didnt start pop punk then who did?
Andcas says The Queers. lol.
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