Septicflesh The Great Mass
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qwe3
April 17th 2011


21836 Comments


no thanks

asdemonsburn
April 17th 2011


793 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

this is NOT better than Communion. This album is akin to a movie sequel - bigger budget, more advertising but ultimately inferior

Derkyle
April 17th 2011


202 Comments


Awesome review, Jared. Never really cared for symphonic elements in death metal so I think I'll skip this one.

Acanthus
April 17th 2011


9812 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

asdemonsburn - do explain?

FenixZero
April 17th 2011


396 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

You should give this a shot crysis, this is really really good. I'm shocked as well.

Voivod
Staff Reviewer
April 17th 2011


10702 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

superbly written review for one of the most anticipated albums of 2011.



Without Vayenas there wouldn't be Septiflesh, as the Antoniou brothers are stating at every chance they get.



He writes a great deal of the lyrics and his vocals are unique.



However, he is bound with inelastic job and family obligations here in Hellas and, inherently, can't follow the band on tour outside of the walls.



That's why his role is toned down here, as you say Jared, because otherwise, his parts would have to be reproduced live using prerecorded samples.



As the orchestral element is increasingly used by the band, the coordination of the orchestral with the vocal samples would cause a relative chaos in their upcoming live performances.









Communion's "Sunlight/Moonlight" and "Anubis" were the main offenders of said cringe-worthy moments, Vayenas' cleanly sung choruses often ruining the driving, relentless mood of the blackened death metal songs.







now i know you don't agree with that Jared from the way that you wrote the sentence.



Especially in "Sangreal" from Communion, the interplay of the clean and the guttural vocals was phenomenal.









Edit:



In here:



http://strangejournal.wordpress.com/2011/04/14/septicflesh-the-great-mass/



There is different art for the album with respect to that which is already present here.

KeithStone582
April 17th 2011


1524 Comments


Not my kinda music at all. Wish it was though.

Babyss
April 17th 2011


66 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0 | Sound Off

Best extreme symphonic albums ever

1) SF The great Mass

2) SF Communion

3) DB Death Cult Armageddon

Observer
Emeritus
April 17th 2011


9393 Comments


hahahah, this album sucks. Absolutely no parts stood out, and the vocal production is a downgrade. Considering those were the two best aspects of Communion (memorabliity in songs and crushing vocals), this is easily a downgrade.


Yeah, if you were a huge fan of Communion then I can see why you'd think the changes made in this would not be as good, but I found parts of Communion very annoying and this does away with most if not all those instances.

overproduced theatrical metal rated 4.5 by observer

i wonder if ill check this out


expected you to post something like this, but yeah, steer clear for sure man ;) I mean, not that it means much to you prob, but I'm not the only reviewer that loves this.



Also, appreciate it ghostovperdition

myhigherpie
April 17th 2011


3029 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

If someone hated Communion, would you still recommend this?

Observer
Emeritus
April 17th 2011


9393 Comments


yes, i think i would. The core sound of the band is still there, but they've just built upon it, and like i said, removed some of the annoying things of Communion.

Tyrael
April 17th 2011


21108 Comments


Holy shitballs this is awesome.

Observer
Emeritus
April 17th 2011


9393 Comments


Fans of this need to give Hollenthon's Tyrants and Wraiths EP a shot.

Voivod
Staff Reviewer
April 17th 2011


10702 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

Jared, can you briefly give the reasons that made Communion annoying, according to your opinion?



i'm really interested in your perspective.

myhigherpie
April 17th 2011


3029 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

How about the fact that the symphonic moments were basically an excuse to skimp on the meat and potatoes AKA songwriting, and... well, guitars, an important fundamental necessity of, well... death metal.

Observer
Emeritus
April 17th 2011


9393 Comments


Jared, can you briefly give the reasons that made Communion annoying, according to your opinion?


mainly the chorus sections, while melodic, seemed cheesy, like i stated in the review, and ruined the mood and drive of the songs. Also, the orchestrated parts seemed tacked on but mostly under-developed on Communion. Here, much of those problems are alleviated. Vayenas still has a big part to play in this album, but he's a much more subordinate player, and the instances where he does lead vocally, like "Therianthropy", sound much more natural and are in sync with the overall effect of the song.

How about the fact that the symphonic moments were basically an excuse to skimp on the meat and potatoes AKA songwriting, and... well, guitars, an important fundamental necessity of, well... death metal.


mmhmm, i can agree with this. If there's anything I'd like to see for this band's next album, if they ever manage to pull one off again, is a more developed guitar aspect, as far as technicality goes. The drums and the harsh vocalist nail it perfectly here, though, and much of the riffs are improved over Communion's, too, but I'd hate to see the band just let the Philharmonic Orchestra take over everything. That said, they have a nice balance on this album between metal and orchestra.


Voivod
Staff Reviewer
April 17th 2011


10702 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

@ Observer



As far as i can remember, the chorus section in Communion were okay.







In any case...



Have you listened to Chaostar, the side project of Spiros Antoniou?



In there, he develops the orchestral element even more.

Observer
Emeritus
April 17th 2011


9393 Comments


Obviously I don't carry the universal opinion on Communion, as it's one of the best recieved metal albums of 2008, but to me and maybe others, those were its primary faults.

I have not, voivod, but I have heard of it through reading some interviews of Spiros in prep for this review. I'll look into it.

myhigherpie
April 17th 2011


3029 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

yeah, I'm four songs in, and at least the guitars don't sound like a primitive rhythmic chug. It's pretty elaborately constructed too. The symphony doesn't feel like a gimmick. Some thought went into making things 'work'

Oathbreaker
April 17th 2011


1648 Comments


The only song I've heard from Communion was Persepolis and it was terribly terrible.



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