Lil Wayne Tha Carter III
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qwe3
September 7th 2013



21353 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

"his voice is awful and he's just a sellout making generic pop tunes without any sort of substance or something different."

This is also straight up not true. If you were talking about from 2011 to this year I'd agree with you, but in the context of rap in 2008 this shit was a breath of fresh air. It sold 1 million copies in a week, and I wouldnt normally use this as a basis for its quality but no one thought a million copies could sell that fast anymore, and C3 did. It managed to be a universal critical success (87 or sth on metacritic) as well as hugely popular among the general populace. and you know what? rappers liked it too. Mac Lethal constantly tries to defend lil wayne's (and especially this album's) quality to his skidmark of a fanbase, a lot of whom will only listen to rap if it's midwest and sounds like fucking atmosphere. Eminem has gone on record saying he hated Lil Wayne without listening to much of his stuff, and once he did, he immediately wanted to work with him.

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qwe3
September 7th 2013



21353 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

"He is just making music for money, this is not art, just a low form of entretaiment made by a guy who makes rhymes
which are worse than insane clown posse rhymes. La La is laughable, phone home pisses me off and there are more
examples of why I rate this album with 1,5. There are 2 tracks which are average but that's the only credit I can give to
this work"

La La is bad, but because of Busta Rhymes. I alternatively love and hate Phone Home but I think it's pretty endearing
and another example of how he was making rap the way he wanted to make it. Even his "generic pop song" lollipop
sounds like it was recorded on fucking mars or something.

You have not given any evidence for why this is not art, and the burden of proof is on YOU to do so. Good luck with
that man.

"The participation of good rappers in collaborations doesn't mean that an album is consistent."

that wasn't his point. he was disputing your idiotic notion that these beats sound like they were made on a 00's nokia.
not surprised you didn't understand, thinking doesnt seem to be your strong suit.

oh yeah and "Aesop rock has an excellent voice" yeah his voice is the best part of his music by a long shot.

in short, you sound like a 14 yr old who's just discovered that there are other white rappers than eminem and want
desperately to communicate how superior your taste is by picking on an easy target. i'm embarrassed for you and your
hilariously badly concocted opinions.

qwe3
September 7th 2013



21353 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

/schooling

oltnabrick
September 7th 2013



30112 Comments


Goddamn


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qwe3
September 7th 2013



21353 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

i like lil wayne

oltnabrick
September 7th 2013



30112 Comments


Yeah his new stuff kinda sucks tho

But mid 00s Wayne is great

qwe3
September 7th 2013



21353 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

yeah it does kinda suck

TheSkilledMachinist9
September 7th 2013



99 Comments

Album Rating: 1.5

This is also straight up not true. If you were talking about from 2011 to this year I'd agree with you, but in the context of rap in 2008 this shit was a breath of fresh air. It sold 1 million copies in a week, and I wouldnt normally use this as a basis for its quality but no one thought a million copies could sell that fast anymore, and C3 did. It managed to be a universal critical success (87 or sth on metacritic) as well as hugely popular among the general populace. and you know what? rappers liked it too. Mac Lethal constantly tries to defend lil wayne's (and especially this album's) quality to his skidmark of a fanbase, a lot of whom will only listen to rap if it's midwest and sounds like fucking atmosphere. Eminem has gone on record saying he hated Lil Wayne without listening to much of his stuff, and once he did, he immediately wanted to work with him.


First, your statement of the amount of sold records is pointless, second the fact some underground rappers loved this album doesn't mean that all the music community loves this album, KRS One defended soulja boy 5 years ago and that was very criticized by hip hop community , besides a lot of good artists defends shitty acts and cirticize solid bands or singers. Example, neil peart defends a shitty band like linkin park and robert plant said once that radiohead was awful, the fact that peart said that LP was good is not going to change that a vast amount of the people in rock circles have a strong dislike for that band and the fact that plant insulted radiohead doesn't mean that people in rock circles is going to hate that band . This album sold many copies just because is directed to a large population of simple minds who wants just shallow music for a party, shit like this is for fake hip hop fans , 14 year old kids with obey snapbacks, hipsters who can't tolerate their friends who listens radio rock and teenage bimbos which are superficial as fuck. Also your statement of the 87/100 on metacritic is lol bad, metacritic is based on the score of not reliable sources of information like now magazine, rolling stone, p4k, billboard, Entertainment Weekly and blender. The opinion of magazines who insulted arrested development, the doors, tool, porcupine tree, Paul Oakenfold, nine inch nails, malmsteem, skinny puppy, Emerson, Lake & Palmer and more but defends shit like lil wayne or even worse ( shit like the harlem shake or waka flocka ) is worthless.

TheSkilledMachinist9
September 7th 2013



99 Comments

Album Rating: 1.5

Lil Wayne's style is very improvisational. that's not to say all his shit is off the cuff but he
rarely writes it down, which means there are lots of non-sequitors and compounded metaphors, and
other techniques which are easier to improvise. What is impressive to lots of wayne fans is how his
lyrics manage to be deeper than they appear on the surface. For example, A Milli, where he says "my
name ain't BIC but i keep that flame..." there is ambiguity as to whether he's referring to BIC
lighters and a more literal idea of flame (as in hes hot) or B.I.G (as in he is keeping quality rap
alive like BIG did) and this IS intentional, he purposely softens the "C" to create a double
meaning. This is incredible lyricism and he used to do it ALL THE DAMN TIME.

Deep lyrics, are you serious ? the most deep shit he has ever made was the lyrics of an apoligze
remix with bun b in which he talked about the consecuences of katrina in new orleans and those
lyrics are just standard as fuck. 90 per cent of the wayne's lyrics are just stupid nonsense made by
an arrogant thug, his topics are cliche as hell and almost never he uses another topic( bitches,
money, cars, typical self indulgent shit and typical swagfag in which he claims that he is better
than other rappers being A milli one example of typical swag crap ),that's a minor problem if the
lyrics are well constructed, but most of them are
poorly written and his metaphors aren't the big deal. Looks the lyrics of 3 peat:

Watch me
Bitch watch me
Bitch watch me
But they cannot see me like Hitler
It's the New Orleans Nightmare
Money so old its growin white hair
Young Money baby
Yeah we right here
I'ma make sure we ball till we fall like tears
And mama don't cry
Ya son can handle his

If you say that those are good lyrics which deserves a 5 you must on shrooms man, most of the
lyrics of this guy is just a bunch of crap made retard which is trying too hard to make poetry. The
generic preacher-backpack faux intellectual fare is more ellaborated and has more merit than those
shitty lyrics made by a men who didn't complete elementary school and I don't put more lyrics cuz
this website doesn't allow comments with more length.

TheSkilledMachinist9
September 7th 2013



99 Comments

Album Rating: 1.5

This is just straight up not true. You're making things up to suit your argument and it's
hilariously transparent. Kanye West's beat on Comfortable, Bangladesh's A Milli and even Swizz'
(pretty much stolen) Dr. Carter beat are all brilliant beats of the highest production quality. I
could also point to Playin With Fire, Shoot Me Down, 3 Peat, Tie My Hands and Let the Beat Build as
other examples of why you're fucking retarded.

Brilliant beats my ass, those are typical monophonic beats who seems more ringtones of a mid 00's
phone, most of them aren't complex, are annoying and are nothing special, typical dj khaled shit
which is not good at all. You don't see love or skill on those beats, brilliant beats of the highest
production quality were made by people like j dilla, dj shadow and more. Fuck even the beats of
standard dj's with serious flaws like adam goldstein are better than this shit. Also, production is
a quality factor but sometimes is a double edge sword specially in this album, here the production
is so clean an plastic like an album produced by don gilmore ( the same guy who produced shitty
albums like swan songs or cardiology) and the result is an artificial and insipid work with no soul
or intensity. At least Aesop rock tries trip hop, funk and more shit to make chlling and well done
beats.

hikingmetalpunk
September 7th 2013



904 Comments


wayne's garbage, this is known. anyone thinks different must be new to hip-hop.

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TheSkilledMachinist9
September 7th 2013



99 Comments

Album Rating: 1.5

La La is bad, but because of Busta Rhymes. I alternatively love and hate Phone Home but I think it's pretty endearing
and another example of how he was making rap the way he wanted to make it. Even his "generic pop song" lollipop
sounds like it was recorded on fucking mars or something.

You have not given any evidence for why this is not art, and the burden of proof is on YOU to do so. Good luck with
that man.

Do you really think that overproducced songs with a messy rapping, shitty lyrics about cliche rap pop topics with nothing new or different to his contemporaries and an annoying voice is art? No is a low form of entretaiment with no artistic merit or something that products a sensation, reaction or emotion different from anger ( hearin lil wayne's works makes me angry cuz they are a torute) or maybe the desire to go to a brothel cuz bitches loves this shitty music for parties

Please bitch, this is like a mc donalds hamburger or a forever 21 oufit, this is just a product to satisfy the MTV crowd which represents one the lowest forms of intelligence. Lil wayne is a good businessman but he is not an artist, he is just prepacking and proccesing shitty mainstream hip hop

Decayingmajesty
September 7th 2013



5394 Comments


wtf are you guys arguing over lil wayne

Rowan5215
September 7th 2013



24415 Comments


Yeah wtf it's like this is a Lil Wayne thread or something

Decayingmajesty
September 7th 2013



5394 Comments


lol, but seriously lil wayne is not worth arguing over

NapalmCrusader
September 7th 2013



1737 Comments


Ohh dear

qwe3
September 7th 2013



21353 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

Your posts were more of the same none addressed the points I made without making an outlandish claim with no backup
beyond one single verse which is actually a good verse so you dun goofd son.

Done wit u and ur teenage shenanigans apply cream to burned area

TheSkilledMachinist9
September 7th 2013



99 Comments

Album Rating: 1.5

Those words are worthless, specially considering that you rate with 4 lady gaga, christina aguilera
and more crap like that, besides you rated my chemical romance with 3,5. You are pathetic qwe and your
ratings of lil wayne and lil b are an abomination

Decayingmajesty
September 7th 2013



5394 Comments


Lmao

Counterfeit
September 7th 2013



17819 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

This fuckin guy. He's so just. Upset. Someone get some immortal technique before this guy blows a fuse.



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