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foreverjohndeered
February 18th 2012


897 Comments


he sucks the most on this one

anarchistfish
February 18th 2012


30307 Comments


(On RoC)

Rodriguez was asked "What's your least favorite thing about the album?" He replied – "In a
heartbeat I could tell you, one of my only regrets out of everything I've ever done is the way that
record was mixed. People think that was a raw and energetic record, but what they're hearing is
nothing compared to what it truly was before it was glossed over and send through the mixing mill
that was Andy Wallace, who is a wonderful person and a very talented mixing engineer and has done
great albums – I'm not trying to offend him....and I understand he had the pressure of the label and
all the people who had dreams of it being this grandioise thing, and being played on the radio,
which it was, (but) that record is ruined by the mix. I just find it the most passive,
plastic....It's the one record I still to this day cannot listen to."


I wonder how much better it would sound like if it were produced how the band would've liked it

foreverjohndeered
February 18th 2012


897 Comments


you racist im reporting you

NeutralThunder12
February 18th 2012


8742 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

weird cause every tmv album after frances and every omar solo album ever is ridiculously over-produced

anarchistfish
February 18th 2012


30307 Comments


different styles though

NeutralThunder12
February 18th 2012


8742 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

yeah but same musician

Maniac!
February 18th 2012


28545 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

yeah but different objectives with the music

anarchistfish
February 18th 2012


30307 Comments


so?
if you wanna write a raw, energetic and intense post hardcore record, you're gonna produce it differently to a twiddly dee progressive record.

ApplicationToHeaven
February 18th 2012


1566 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

also tmv are gay

sniper
February 19th 2012


19075 Comments


yeah roc would probably sound so good if it were produced the way this one was. the vocals still wouldn't be as awesome though.

anarchistfish
February 19th 2012


30307 Comments


This already isn't as good as RoC

anarchistfish
February 19th 2012


30307 Comments


RoC's songwriting with ICO's sound would be incredible

sniper
February 19th 2012


19075 Comments


it's better, actually.

NeutralThunder12
February 19th 2012


8742 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

yep this is amazing might 4.5, cedric's vox are so badgood i love them here

anarchistfish
February 19th 2012


30307 Comments


mmmmmm not feeling this :

ApplicationToHeaven
February 19th 2012


1566 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

napeleon solo and hourglass are atd-i's two best songs imo but RoC is definitely more consistent

wacknizzle
February 19th 2012


14555 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

It sucks that mixing and mastering can damage an album so much. I still love RoC either way, but I would love to hear it as they intended it.

taxidermist
February 19th 2012


7265 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

mmmmmm not feeling this :



Starting off with RoC and then trying this out is a bit weird. Give it time, though. Still an awesome record.

NeutralThunder12
February 23rd 2012


8742 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

yeah this is fucking legit

sniper
February 23rd 2012


19075 Comments


so raw and good. not really comparable in sound to roc honestly.



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