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Ludovician
February 21st 2009


35 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

I'm enjoying what I've heard so far, so a 4 for now I think.

Cesar
February 21st 2009


2732 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

the whole emo/screamo titles got overused hard when bands brought something close to the mainstream


emo/scremo is very far from mainstream


AP07373
February 21st 2009


493 Comments


"emo/scremo is very far from mainstream"

Maybe in its purest definition...but when most people were considering Thrice and Thursday "screamo" 5 years ago and they toured together, every show was sold out...that was pretty close to mainstream.

iarescientists
February 21st 2009


5863 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

just because "most people" considered them screamo doesn't make them screamo

does that mean obama is a socialist since fox news declared him one?

tarethere
February 21st 2009


184 Comments


emo/scremo is very far from mainstream
agreed. maybe i shouldve put "something close" in italics ;)
just because "most people" considered them screamo doesn't make them screamo
does that mean obama is a socialist since fox news declared him one?

i agree with that too... i think we might be arguing the same thing

Iluvatar
Staff Reviewer
February 21st 2009


16089 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5 | Sound Off

"
Maybe in its purest definition...but when most people were considering Thrice and Thursday "screamo" 5 years ago and they toured together, every show was sold out...that was pretty close to mainstream."

thy were also playing 500-1000 person venues max back then

AP07373
February 22nd 2009


493 Comments


"thy were also playing 500-1000 person venues max back then"
On that tour they were playing fairly large clubs. Still only like 2,000 - 3,000 but still...Scott Weiland and Bush can't sell out those same venues now. Hah after reading that I realize that isn't saying much.
"just because "most people" considered them screamo doesn't make them screamo"
Everyone calls trivium metalcore, despite not having any real attributes of metalcore. Breakdown =/= metalcore. But I guess your argument is that screaming and high pitched vocals =/= screamo, so whatever.


IsItLuck?
Emeritus
February 22nd 2009


4927 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

"Now enter, Common Existence, an album deeply rooted into their hardcore/screamo roots "

Sounds like my older brothers thursday.

you know I wasn't calling them screamo/hardcore necessarily, but rather what they grew up listening to

AP07373
February 22nd 2009


493 Comments


"you know I wasn't calling them screamo/hardcore necessarily, but rather what they grew up listening to"
Oh okay. Out of curiousity, what screamo bands were around 15-20 years ago? I can't say I'm a guru on the genre.

absurdismwine
February 22nd 2009


304 Comments


this album is awesome, I really like this guys voice.
good review by the way, really smooth and concise.This Message Edited On 02.22.09

IsItLuck?
Emeritus
February 22nd 2009


4927 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

Out of curiousity, what screamo bands were around 15-20 years ago? I can't say I'm a guru on the genre.

what does that have to do with anything (specifically the amount of years)?


AP07373
February 22nd 2009


493 Comments


"what does that have to do with anything (specifically the amount of years"
Because you said "what they grew up listening to", which would be roughly 15 or 20 years ago (beginning of their teenage years). You said it was deeply rooted in their hardcore/screamo roots. So that would mean that they "grew up listening to" screamo bands. I was just wondering what screamo bands they grew up on...and they grew up roughly 15 to 20 years ago. They are all about 30 years old.

IsItLuck?
Emeritus
February 22nd 2009


4927 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

"what does that have to do with anything (specifically the amount of years"

Because you said "what they grew up listening to", which would be roughly 15 or 20 years ago (beginning of their teenage years). You said it was deeply rooted in their hardcore/screamo roots. So that would mean that they "grew up listening to" screamo bands. I was just wondering what screamo bands they grew up on...and they grew up roughly 15 to 20 years ago. They are all about 30 years old.

Really? So they were all grown up at age 10-15ish? That's impressive.

Now seriously, who are you to exactly pin-point when they grew up and the specific ages? You really think that growing up does not occur your 20s? If you are going to try to pick at my review, at least pretend to have a clue about what you are arguing.

Now I'm not here to give a history lesson about Thursday, but anyone who can reflectively think on a statement would figure out that what I said directly relates what they listened to prior/during Thursday's creation. Geoff has explicity stated in interviews what screamo/hardcore bands he grew up listening to (Bad Brains and Orchid immediately come to mind from what I remember of their influences). If you really want to know, scour the internet for Thursday interviews, I'm not doing your dirty work just because you want to try to exploit what I said in my review.This Message Edited On 02.22.09

AP07373
February 23rd 2009


493 Comments


"If you really want to know, scour the internet for Thursday interviews, I'm not doing your dirty work just because you want to try to exploit what I said in my review."

I asked a pretty simple question dude...didn't know you were on your period. And yea, I wouldn't consider myself "growing up" during my 20's...and I said I was no expert on Screamo...just asked for some of the bands you were talking about.

And then you name Orchid, a band that formed same year as Thursday.

Now go get the sand out of your vag and don't get mad at me because you write statements that you can't factually back up in your own review.

So what screamo bands did they grow up listening to? Still haven't gotten the answer to that simple question. Gonna give me an answer or just more attitude? And why should I "scour the internet" when I'm asking YOU a question about YOUR review. Hack.
This Message Edited On 02.22.09

Captain North
February 23rd 2009


6791 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5 | Sound Off

I've never actually heard 'screamo' used by anyone but people who don't listen to harsh vocals.

IsItLuck?
Emeritus
February 23rd 2009


4927 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

Well if you don't consider that you are growing up in your 20s, you should probably have a reality check. As for Orchid, sure they started at the same time, but Orchid released "Chaos is Me" in 1999, two years before Thursday released their major release "Full Collapse."
[quote=http://www.altpress.com/features/206.htm]We both really loved what was going on on the West Coast in the early '90s, like Gravity Records stuff, really spazzy stuff. We also really loved the Ebullition style, mid-'90s, what they call the emo power-violence stuff. [/quote]
[quote=wikipedia]Gravity Records is an influential underground independent record label from San Diego. It was formed in 1991 by Matt Anderson, a member of the influential underground band Heroin. It has been central in developing and promoting the "San Diego sound" - an idiosyncratic form of emo and hardcore with very loose, chaotic musicianship and vocals. It is commonly associated with the first wave of screamo.[/quote]
here's the answer to the question you've been DYING to know

Blindsided
February 23rd 2009


1871 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

I'm having a hard time getting into the rest of the cd besides tracks 1 and 2.

Iamthe Nightstars
February 24th 2009


2286 Comments


I do like the first song a lot. Haven't heard much else from the album yet though.

Mikesn
Emeritus
February 25th 2009


3709 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

I clearly just enjoy infuriating you guys.
As a mature 25 year old with a well off career with money in your retirement, you should be above such childish behaviour. Tsk tsk tsk.

Digging: Grimes - Visions

mynameischan
Staff Reviewer
February 25th 2009


17920 Comments


Hey what do you guys think of starting a sputnik/facebook community where those that have facebook accounts can trade names and we can all be buddies on facebook? Then we can see the face behind these monitors...and really see whats up.


how about you hang yourself on your webcam for all of us to see and then there'll be a face behind the monitor for us to see



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