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PistolPete
February 3rd 2013



3460 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

Hey! I said it's not horrid.... =[

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toxin.
February 3rd 2013



11804 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0 | Sound Off

Oh maybe I'll check em out.
The lyrics are awful, yeah, but the music is equally as bad. Like really, the generic alt metal screams do not sit well with me.

Ecnalzen
February 9th 2013



5848 Comments


I can't decide if I like this or not. There is some good, but is usually followed by things equally as bad.

Also, the intro/main riff of Shadows sounds almost exactly like the main riff of The Clincher from Chevelle. It doesn't really fit with the rest of the song either. It's very melodic except for that one riff, which just sticks out.

EvoHavok
February 9th 2013



1211 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

I enjoy that song and I think that riff makes it rather more interesting.

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fromtheinside
February 9th 2013



16352 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

imitation is the most sincere form of flattery

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Ecnalzen
February 9th 2013



5848 Comments


It kind of annoys me when bands do that. I think Breaking Benjamin does that a lot too. They will put a heavy intro/main riff and then have a really melodic rest of the song (and then maybe a short heavy, slightly altered version of said riff for a bridge). It just feels kind of shoehorned in if you don't have some other heavier sections to put it with. It's just really nice, melodic section and then bam! heavy ass riff followed by a nice, melodic section again.

EvoHavok
February 9th 2013



1211 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Well, Shadows was co-written with Benjamin Burnley, so there you go haha.

toxin.
February 9th 2013



11804 Comments

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Yeah, Shadows definitely does that heavy riff + melodic rest of song, but it never bothered me personally. Shadows is still up there as one of my favorite Red songs.

fromtheinside
February 9th 2013



16352 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

ecnal, you have the perfect avatar for that comment

Ecnalzen
February 9th 2013



5848 Comments


lol, nice. I guess I wasn't too far off there then.

Some of the heavy to not so heavy stuff just has some poor transitions. It's not bad overall from what I have heard, just something that a lot of hard rock "mainstream" (if you want to call these guys that) bands tend to do.

fromtheinside
February 9th 2013



16352 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

there are a lot of bands that write music like that though. like, a lot.
staind
red
chevelle
tool
seether
nirvana
brand new
linkin park
breaking benjashit
filter
fuel
flaw
finger 11
the dillinger escape plan
shinedown
nickelback
live
default
deftones
qotsa
audioslave (hahaha)
p.o.d.
pillar
project 86
drowning pool
smile empty soul


EvoHavok
February 9th 2013



1211 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

And that list could go on and on.

toxin.
February 9th 2013



11804 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0 | Sound Off

fti, don't forget the creme de la crap, Three Days Grace

Ecnalzen
February 9th 2013



5848 Comments


And Chevelle is probably the only band I actually like out of that list, lol. I have started listening to Dillinger recently and they seem pretty good.

I will probably give this another listen or two. These are just my initial thoughts.

fromtheinside
February 9th 2013



16352 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

ahhh yes, how could i ever forget three days grace. they had a song on their last album i dug

EvoHavok
February 9th 2013



1211 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Guess I'm one of the selected few who can still enjoy them. Which song was that?

fromtheinside
February 9th 2013



16352 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

i'm pretty sure it was the mj cover

EvoHavok
February 9th 2013



1211 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

For some reason I thought you'd say that.

toxin.
February 9th 2013



11804 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0 | Sound Off

lol I actually enjoy One-X to some extent, and Life Starts Now had some guilty pleasures. I did not enjoy their latest in any sense though. TDG is one of those bands that are enjoyable in-genre, but become the epitome of mediocrity the minute you stop being a mainstream/hard rock junkie.

The Michael Jackson cover was pretty cool though.

fromtheinside
February 9th 2013



16352 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

most original song on the album for sure



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