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DaveyBoy
Staff Reviewer
October 26th 2008


22397 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5 | Sound Off

Steve, once more we agree. I'm also torn between a 3.5 and 4, but with a leaning towards a 4. I also think 'Hero Of War' is good and may actually be worth releasing as a single just to get the band noticed.

I just secured great tickets to their March gig down under. Can't wait.

ninjuice
October 26th 2008


6760 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5 | Sound Off

I'm also torn between a 3.5 and 4, but with a leaning towards a 4


Same here!

I also think 'Hero Of War' is good and may actually be worth releasing as a single just to get the band noticed.


I think "Swing Life Away" kinda did that already, plus Savior, Kotov Syndrome and Collapse are better songs.

bastard
October 26th 2008


3435 Comments


Pretty good album.

marksellsuswallets
October 26th 2008


4848 Comments


Rise Against needs to be noticed?

DaveyBoy
Staff Reviewer
October 26th 2008


22397 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5 | Sound Off

No no, not that kind of 'noticed'. You'd be surprised at the kind of attention that arguably controversial lyrics could bring to the band. Sort of going by the "any publicity is good publicity" theory. As for potential other singles, I actually thought 'The Strength To Go On' was quite good.



As for Rise Against needing to be noticed, well they don't "need" to be. But any time I hear Tim speak, I always get the feeling that there are many messages he'd love to spread to the wider community.This Message Edited On 10.26.08

marksellsuswallets
October 26th 2008


4848 Comments


Yeah I get what you're saying...I'm still pretty fuzzy from the flu/medication so it might take a few days for my thoughts to get back to being completely rational again haha...

Seantmpc13
October 26th 2008


406 Comments


From what I've heard this is a decent album, although I've grown somewhat tired of the same sound after five albums.

Yazz_Flute
October 28th 2008


18937 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

upped to a 4, im really torn between a 3.5 and 4 though. I actually find it to be their most solid album, I like every track a lot and I actually don't feel like anything is truly filler. Their other albums have had 1 or two filler tracks imo.



but yeah Savior is still the best track BY FAR

TzarChasm
November 3rd 2008


257 Comments


I'd have to disagree with some of the review, personally. I'd say that while it's certainly "mainstream" and accessible, this is an extremely consistent album, and one of my personal contenders for best non-metal album of the year. (Yes, music comes in two varieties, like it or not: metal and all the other stuff.)

Personally I found that there's not a single song on this cd that I want—or need—to skip, and listened to it nonstop for three consecutive plays today, start to finish. I'm neither a general fan of punk rock nor a left-wing Democrat, but I'm left virtually breathless by the sheer catchiness and energy dominating this entire work. From beginning to end, regardless of the lyrics (with which I almost consistently disagree) or the shameless political motivation, I was blown away by Appeal to Reason.This Message Edited On 11.03.08

Serpento
November 3rd 2008


2351 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0 | Sound Off

meh was debating whether to raise the rating, but i only listen to six of the thirteen tracks. the rest, is either boring filler or hero of war.

beans
November 3rd 2008


2332 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

album is still good to throw in here and there though.

Spamue1G
November 8th 2008


1292 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

I actually think this is a bit better than Siren Song... and about level with The Sufferer & The Witness. Some of the anger (not much, mind you) has been lost in this album, but the songs are less samey and experiment a little bit more than before, so it pretty much evens out.

Also, though the rhymes in Hero Of War are pretty childish, the images and emotions conveyed by both the lyrics and the voice more than make up for it, I think.This Message Edited On 11.08.08

AtavanHalen
November 8th 2008


17927 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

It's definitely level with Sufferer, but not better than Siren Song.

Serpento
November 8th 2008


2351 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0 | Sound Off

aside from typical growing, the thing about hero of war's lyrics being direct quotes from the troops softened my take on how bad they are, so i upped this.This Message Edited On 11.08.08

mynameischan
Emeritus
November 8th 2008


17960 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

makes the song pretty appalling actually

Serpento
November 8th 2008


2351 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0 | Sound Off

2100 and i dont have a witty retort how depressing

Cesar
November 8th 2008


2732 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

Maybe when we get to 9346 we can have a witty retort.



In my case I like the change of pace Hero of War brings, its refreshing plus it is executed very well and although the lyrics aren't great its still a very enjoyable song.This Message Edited On 11.08.08

brandtweathers
November 8th 2008


2007 Comments


cheesy/lame album cover

TommyCheeks
November 10th 2008


1 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

I love Hero of Wars lyrics "“They took off his clothes/They pissed in his hands/I told them to stop/Then I joined in” might be titillating to some" Its not titillating in the slightest and this was actually happening in Iraq he didn't make it up

I give the album a 4 its not as good as their previous albums but those were epic

Oddsen
January 2nd 2009


1127 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

I finally just picked this up. I think a good chunk of the songs on this album are better than almost anything on Sufferer (like Savior) but overall this album isn't as consistent.



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