Album Rating: 4.0

There slowly regurgitating old ideas. But still its a solid album but not more then one song really sticks out for me

I keep listening to this over and over again and it's getting better and better. There are some really great tracks on this. I'm so close to giving it a 4.

'anybodies' should be 'anybody's', no?

tim mcilrath gives me a boner

as a semi-hardcore rise against fan i was a little dissapointed with this album after hearing re-education back in august. Some songs stand out such as hero of war (next swing life away), re-education, kotov syndrome, collapse, from heads unworthy, and the strength to go on. Other than these gems the rest was very mediocre. solid but not as good as siren.

Son of a bitch. Mid-tempo Rise Against is so damn boring. Fast and heavy. Its the only way to go for these guys.

probably a little more than Siren Song tbh

Album Rating: 4.5 | Sound Off

Did SAMCOREY just rattle off 6 highlight tracks from this album & not mention 'Savior'...??? Good God!

Digging: Conditions - Full of War

We should kill him.

Album Rating: 3.5 | Sound Off

I'm torn between a 3.5 and 4 for this. I like all the songs, but several feel like filler at times.
I still don't see why Hero of War is so bad - yeah it's not "Roadside" or "Swing Life Away" but it's not bad either.

Digging: Reflection Eternal - Train of Thought

Album Rating: 4.5 | Sound Off

Steve, once more we agree. I'm also torn between a 3.5 and 4, but with a leaning towards a 4. I also think 'Hero Of War' is good and may actually be worth releasing as a single just to get the band noticed.
I just secured great tickets to their March gig down under. Can't wait.

Album Rating: 3.5 | Sound Off

I'm also torn between a 3.5 and 4, but with a leaning towards a 4

Pretty good album.

Rise Against needs to be noticed?

Album Rating: 4.5 | Sound Off

No no, not that kind of 'noticed'. You'd be surprised at the kind of attention that arguably controversial lyrics could bring to the band. Sort of going by the "any publicity is good publicity" theory. As for potential other singles, I actually thought 'The Strength To Go On' was quite good.

As for Rise Against needing to be noticed, well they don't "need" to be. But any time I hear Tim speak, I always get the feeling that there are many messages he'd love to spread to the wider community.This Message Edited On 10.26.08

Yeah I get what you're saying...I'm still pretty fuzzy from the flu/medication so it might take a few days for my thoughts to get back to being completely rational again haha...

From what I've heard this is a decent album, although I've grown somewhat tired of the same sound after five albums.

Album Rating: 3.5

upped to a 4, im really torn between a 3.5 and 4 though. I actually find it to be their most solid album, I like every track a lot and I actually don't feel like anything is truly filler. Their other albums have had 1 or two filler tracks imo.

but yeah Savior is still the best track BY FAR

Digging: Polkadot Cadaver - Last Call in Jonestown

I'd have to disagree with some of the review, personally. I'd say that while it's certainly "mainstream" and accessible, this is an extremely consistent album, and one of my personal contenders for best non-metal album of the year. (Yes, music comes in two varieties, like it or not: metal and all the other stuff.)

Personally I found that there's not a single song on this cd that I want—or need—to skip, and listened to it nonstop for three consecutive plays today, start to finish. I'm neither a general fan of punk rock nor a left-wing Democrat, but I'm left virtually breathless by the sheer catchiness and energy dominating this entire work. From beginning to end, regardless of the lyrics (with which I almost consistently disagree) or the shameless political motivation, I was blown away by Appeal to Reason.This Message Edited On 11.03.08

Album Rating: 3.0 | Sound Off

meh was debating whether to raise the rating, but i only listen to six of the thirteen tracks. the rest, is either boring filler or hero of war.