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plane
Staff Reviewer
September 25th 2008


6099 Comments


well i mean they namedrop AMERICAN APPAREL

sadmafioso
September 25th 2008


318 Comments


dfelon buys all his clothes from there let's be honest

Tyler
Emeritus
September 25th 2008


7926 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

These guys are just really self-aware. When I saw them, Abimpbe (okay, that's not how you spell it but I'm not looking it up) was making jokes about how he wanted this album to have a 20 minute spoken word track. They constantly pole fun at their "hipster" fans and they're basically always making light of everything. So that's why you've got the contrast in bleak, more serious lyrics paired up with random goofy non-sequiturs and the like.

Tyler
Emeritus
September 25th 2008


7926 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

constantly pole fun, whoooops

plane
Staff Reviewer
September 25th 2008


6099 Comments


123 tyler

DFelon204409
Emeritus
September 25th 2008


3996 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

The "deductions"as IsItLuck put it are actually for the music not the lyrics. I think about half of the songs are amazing and half of them just blow. So maybe it's a 3/5 and then the lyrics kill the album off for me. It's funny because I think the best songs are the ones with the most soul or bravado in the vocal performance, but the lyrics are so poorly written and genre-bound that that undercuts what all the cool vocals they have.

Tyler
Emeritus
September 25th 2008


7926 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

I should have known DFelon wouldn't allow himself to like this.

DFelon204409
Emeritus
September 25th 2008


3996 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

Oh shut up man. Don't pull this prejudice stuff on me. If it makes you feel better I liked Cookie Mountain a lot more.

Tyler
Emeritus
September 25th 2008


7926 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

It just seems like making a huge deal about the lyrics is severely pulling threads. And you like Cookie Monster, so what, is that not "hipster" or something?

IsItLuck?
Emeritus
September 25th 2008


4927 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5 | Sound Off

You should probably just stick to listening to stuff that you review favorably considering that's 95% of your top albums this year anywayThis Message Edited On 09.25.08

DFelon204409
Emeritus
September 25th 2008


3996 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

Cocaine, I hardly judge an album on the lyrics. I think you're blowing how much that effects how much I like an album out proportion. TVotR are egregious offenders in the hipster/bad lyrics department, but write some pretty good songs. I thought Cookie Mountain was a better album overall, excluding lyrics. Hip, yes, but pretty good also. This is just completely hit or miss. "Red Dress," "Dancing Choose," and even "Golden Age" are just not good songs. The use of horns and bongos are so superfluous and trite. I think TVotR suffers when they're upbeat. Their best songs are the ones that don't superficially try to be fun with disco beat hi hat work and jangly instrumentation. The best ones are the ones that don't try so hard to be upbeat and and hip. The more delicate and soulful the vocals, the better. When they get brash and arrogant, everything just suffers.

DFelon204409
Emeritus
September 25th 2008


3996 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

[quote=IsItLuck?]You should probably just stick to listening to stuff that you review favorably considering that's 95% of your top albums this year anyway[/quote]

Shouldn't the stuff I review favorably make up 100% of my top albums for the year?

Tyler
Emeritus
September 25th 2008


7926 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

I actually think TVotR are better with a little more energy in their songs. I dont necessarily mean "dancier" stuff, just more life. That's what hurt Cookie Mountain. It can be something as simple as the ridiculously harmonies on Desperate.., or the bouncier stuff on here.

astrel
September 25th 2008


2614 Comments


still generic.

robin
Emeritus
September 25th 2008


4258 Comments


really enjoy this album, but it makes me want to get out their old stuff alot too. which i still need a bit more of in the way of cookie mountain and the other album, not ep.

DFelon204409
Emeritus
September 25th 2008


3996 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

See I love when they get thick and slow as in "I Was a Lover. " When they try to be upbeat, it's not that they are doing it because they feel it and are elevating the song, but it usually feels forced. For me the most important instrument(s) are the vocals. Listen to a song like "Young Liars." The arc of that song is made by the fact that the vocals are varied through. Their contours gradually ascend. They start off with little flatted blues note figures and ultimately open up into larger intervals and registers. It gives the song that x-factor. That is present on some songs on this album and woefully absent on others.

Also, I hope nobody takes this the wrong way, but I find this series of events highly ironic. Rock is the white man's take on blues is it not? And indie is a further whitening of the mix so to speak. It's practiced mostly by young white urbanites and makes a point of ironically invoking rock and roll of the past. Then a band that is mostly black, and stands out as being so completely beats these whiteys at their own game by writing not only more compelling forward-thinking versions of what they are doing, but by elevating it by using blues vocals tendencies, bringing us full circle to the original unjust thefting by whitey. It seems like unbelievable poetic justice. I also wouldn't attribute this to just TVotR as well. Look at Bad Brains. They were just so much better than all of the imitative hardcore bands of the early 80s and they did it by making the music a little "blacker" for lack of a better term (funk, reggae influences). Whitey is always messing up music.

Tyler
Emeritus
September 25th 2008


7926 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

still generic.

How? Name five bands that sound like them.

DFelon, I do agree that there aren't as many "whoa" moments with the harmonies and melodies but the album is consistently a lot better than anything they've ever done. I can always go back to "Mr. Grieves" if I want anyways. Man, that song rules. Shits and pisses and bleeds allover the original and it's a pretty good song originally.

Electric City
Staff Reviewer
September 25th 2008


15743 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

"Red Dress," "Dancing Choose," and even "Golden Age" are just not good songs.


add "halfway home" and you have my favorites off the album!

kmagnum1x
September 25th 2008


260 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

doesn't quite do it for me

DFelon204409
Emeritus
September 25th 2008


3996 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

EC, I just don't get you then. Or maybe you're the dude in this picture, a doucher and loving it: http://images.quickblogcast.com/95082-87795/amerapparel.jpg



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