Emperor Anthems to the Welkin at Dusk
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Hawks
September 5th 2008



34492 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

I really dont think the production is that bad on this album. Its worse on ItNE, but I think thats what makes that a little better than this.

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Wizard
September 5th 2008



19231 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

For a first time listener of this band, the production is terrible (at least for me)

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Hawks
September 5th 2008



34492 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

Yeah you're probably right. I hated Wrath of the Tyrant for a while because of the production, but once I really got into black metal it was fine.

istaros
September 5th 2008



310 Comments


you'll get used to it, wizard. the production's bad compared to mainstream music, but for black metal it's really quite clear. just a little fuzz, but you can hear everything just fine. first time i heard Nattens Madrigal it sounded like shit to me and i hated it. now it sounds really clear, just tinny. incidentally, if you're curious what an example of bad-production-no-matter-how-used-you-are-to-it might sound, listen to... Havohej, or Mutiilation

AngelPhoenix
September 5th 2008



2764 Comments


It was me that couldn't get used to it lol. Wizard has this as a 5 and I know he doesn't give those out lightly, so I'm sure he's quite comfortable with the production. I'm sure I will give this and Nightside Eclipse another shot again soon.

istaros
September 5th 2008



310 Comments


ah. i misunderstood what his last post meant. sorry. yeah, the first black metal album i remember being able to appreciate was Immortal's At the Heart of Winter. partially because it's almost as much thrash as it is black metal, and because it's far more melodic(meaning, easier to enjoy); but also because its production is -relatively- inoffensive. same goes for their Sons of Northern Darkness. after that, Enslaved's Vikingligr Veldi should be able to give you an idea of why lo-fi production benefits the music - it's not so bad that it detracts from the music, which is a bit dronish and hypnotic by nature, but it is just bad enough for you to realize it's abnormal

AngelPhoenix
September 5th 2008



2764 Comments


I tend to get turned off by straight black metal. Sons of Northern Darkness was alright, but I didn't care to give it repeated listens. I like black metal that has strong ambient (cause I like doom) or folk (cause I like Moonsorrow, Equilibrium) elements. Leviathan being an example of the former, Windir of the later. I even liked Wolves in the Throne Room and their acoustic and symphonic elements. This, to me, sounds about as straight up, in-your-face black metal as you can get. I think I will need some time for this one.

Have this same problem with Burzum.

istaros
September 5th 2008



310 Comments


i'm not too fond of ambient stuff in black metal, but as for folky, have you heard Vintersorg? early Borknagar? Graveland? late Bathory? Nahash's "Daath" is pretty ambient without being boring. even know they're almost entirely unknown, it was the album that got me interested in black metal

Wizard
September 6th 2008



19231 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

you'll get used to it, wizard. the production's bad compared to mainstream music, but for black metal it's really quite clear.

Really? hahaha

This, to me, sounds about as straight up, in-your-face black metal as you can get. I think I will need some time for this one.

My naïve self once thought this too!




istaros
September 6th 2008



310 Comments


shut it :p

Wizard
September 6th 2008



19231 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

I was laughing more at what Angel said above.

AngelPhoenix
September 6th 2008



2764 Comments


Naive, or just overwhelmed?

McP3000
September 6th 2008



3941 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

How can you give this album a 5

Seriously, the sound, vocals, and tone of the album are inferior to ITNE

Wizard
September 6th 2008



19231 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

Naive, or just overwhelmed?

A little of both. It was a lot to grasp at first.

Seriously, the sound, vocals, and tone of the album are inferior to ITNE

Sure.....I guess. They are both good for their own reasons. The symphonics on this album are alot more focused.


Altmer
September 6th 2008



5652 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

the symphonic elements sound like midi keyboards, and they are too high in the mix

Hawks
September 6th 2008



34492 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

This, to me, sounds about as straight up, in-your-face black metal as you can get. I think I will need some time for this one.

This really isn't just straight up black metal Angel. That would be stuff like Darkthrone, Mayhem, Immortal, etc. This is much more symphonic black metal than it is straight up black metal.


masscows
September 6th 2008



2236 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

in the nightside eclipse is so boring

Hawks
September 6th 2008



34492 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

Why do you think that?

istaros
September 6th 2008



310 Comments


i think i understand what he means. i disagree, but i think i get why he says so. Nightside is... consistent. extremely consistent. so consistent that, if you weren't the kind of person who wanted to memorize every Emperor song ever, most of its tracks would mesh together in your memory after you'd finished listening to it - there's not a whole lot of variation. there's not even a lot of variation on this album, but it's more than there is on Nightside. they're not only all of a similar quality level, they're almost all similar as songs too

Hawks
September 6th 2008



34492 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

I'm not the kind of person to memerize every Emperor song, but I still love it. More than this actually.This Message Edited On 09.06.08



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