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AtavanHalen
April 28th 2008



17927 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Y'know, all of you have said something about that, but none of you have mentioned anyone who's better. Apart from Elim and his little Wahlberg fetish.

Iluvatar
Staff Reviewer
April 28th 2008



16083 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

In a related artist vaguely, the new Subtle trounces on this pretty good.
Although I was pleasantly surprised by this.

YeahRiight
April 29th 2008



50 Comments


If you are going for name recognition, Kanye is obviously going to get people to know what you are talking about, but Pharoahe Monch and Talib Kweli are so far more superior that I feel like that is who you should be mentioning if you are actually going to talk about hip-hop.

AtavanHalen
April 29th 2008



17927 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Yeah, I like Talib, but I've never heard of Pharoahe Monch.

Iai
Emeritus
April 29th 2008



3553 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

To respond to your exchange with Eliminator: technically speaking, Lil Wayne actually IS a better rapper than Kanye. Kanye has more to say, sure, but Wayne is the better as far as pure talent goes. if Kanye is classed as one of the best examples of 'intricacy and dynamism', then you're basically saying that everybody in the world with a decent sense of humour is a great rapper. As for the other two, Vinnie Paz is a hugely over-rated, worthless douchebag who doesn't deserve a producer as good as the one he's got, and Buck 65 isn't good as combining honesty with intricacy, like you say he is. His really good raps are nonsense and his personal tracks generally have pretty lazy rapping. The guy's made some awesome music, but he shouldn't be held up as an example of an all-round great.

The reason nobody's quoted any examples to you is because the same names get trotted out every time and it's boring even typing them by this point. Pharoahe Monch, Common, Nas, Mos Def, Rakim, Ghostface, and Scarface are the big ones, and even if you're only focusing on one of the aspects you said, then Chuck D, Immortal Technique, Papoose, Del Tha Funkee Homosapien, and even Twista are better examples.

In any case, because this review is the most articluate direct criticism of crunk and snap I can find, I'm citing you in one of my assignments. So yeah, props.

CushMG15
April 29th 2008



1802 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

Good response, right there.

AtavanHalen
April 29th 2008



17927 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Thanks Iai. I'm no hip-hop expert, so I probably shouldn't have made any comparisons to other rappers. But out of what I've listened to, those were the best three examples I could think of.
I've heard of a lot of those MCs, but never really listened to them. I now plan to. Thanks again.
And you're using me in an assignment? Awesome, man, thank you so much. What's the assignment on?

Iai
Emeritus
April 29th 2008



3553 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

The impact of 9/11 on popular music - the specific chapter heading is 'How and Why Mainstream Hip-Hop Has Failed Us'. Seriously, aside from citing lyrics from Nas and The Game (lol), I could not find a single intelligent, credible source that directly criticizes crunk for being vapid, largely unintelligible, and generally bad as far as the traditional academic definitions of good hip-hop go. There's lots of skirting around the issue, and writings that predate crunk but clearly would criticize it if they were being rewritten now, but nothing really recent and head-on. The fact that I talk about Kanye and Lupe's respective uses of the "Diamonds" beat almost makes it look like you wrote the first paragraph to my specifications, to be honest.

Eliminator
April 29th 2008



2067 Comments


i just got done watching rock star and my dvd is all sticky but idk why :confused:

AtavanHalen
April 30th 2008



17927 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Elim, you are a little too hilarious- in both your posts AND your avatars.
Iai, that's a really cool-sounding essay. Do you reckon I'd be able to see it before you hand it in?

rockfan123
April 30th 2008



344 Comments


Atmosphere is like the Radiohead of Rap, unfortunatly this is the In Rainbows of Atmosphere: that is, really boring but still pretty good.

Masochist
April 30th 2008



8012 Comments


I want this c.d., but I want to check out all of Seven's Travels first. I've got a few of them.

Iai - Check Chamillionaire's album "Ultimate Victory" for commentary on the state of mainstream rap from someone in that very genre. And when you get done with your assignment, publish it somewhere online and link us. Sounds like an interesting read.

Digging: He Is Legend - Heavy Fruit

AtavanHalen
May 1st 2008



17927 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Atmosphere is like the Radiohead of Rap, unfortunatly this is the In Rainbows of Atmosphere: that is, really boring but still pretty good.

What wank.

Iai
Emeritus
May 1st 2008



3553 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

D'oh. I played "Morning News" to death when Ultimate Victory came out and forgot all about it. Handed the work in yesterday.....I dunno, I might post it online. I don't know how much that's frowned upon, because some of the dissertations get kept by the university and published in the library. There's also the problem that I might get done for plagiarism if it appears online (it's really unlikely, but still probably not worth the risk).

I'm seriously considering turning into a semi-regular feature on here over the summer anyway - like a 6-part column or something. All the marking and whatever will be done by then and I can find out for sure whether I can just reproduce it or not.This Message Edited On 05.01.08

rockfan123
May 1st 2008



344 Comments


Well In Rainbows really bored me, but was still awesome, and thats the way this album is.

ilikemusicthatsucks
May 1st 2008



1063 Comments


I really liked this album.

AtavanHalen
May 1st 2008



17927 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

I want to know who neg'd this.

Iluvatar
Staff Reviewer
May 2nd 2008



16083 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

It was me.

AtavanHalen
May 2nd 2008



17927 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Was it really?

Iluvatar
Staff Reviewer
May 2nd 2008



16083 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

Um yes



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