Elliott Smith Either/Or
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tommygun
November 17th 2012


25413 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

I wouldn't be questioning it if it was a more 'normal' method of suicide because obviously Elliott had a lot of issues etc, it's just the way it happened and the circumstances surrounding it that make me think whoa whoa whoa wait a second here.

ckunke002
November 17th 2012


1033 Comments


And i would have to disagree completely that being troubled and depressed doesn't make you more likely to do anything. Sick people kill themselves. Healthy people do not.

MichaelSnoxall
November 17th 2012


12163 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0 | Sound Off

And i would have to disagree completely that being troubled and depressed doesn't make you more likely to do anything. Sick people kill themselves. Healthy people do not.

No, it's more likely that if a person is going to kill themselves, they're not gonna be open about it. I mean, in some cases they might say it before they do, but generally if someone's gonna kill themselves, they're not gonna be so open about it before they do it. Generally like you don't boast about how you're going to go murder someone before you do it.

I know exactly what you're trying to say, but my opinion still stands and it's obvious that Smith was a severely SEVERELY depressed individual for a very large part of his life.I think he was more than capable of doing it to himself and was WAY more likely to do something like that to himself than anybody else ever could have been. Once again, obviously just my take.

But that's not the point. The point we discussing is how all the evidence leaves murder a much more viable conclusion, as opposed to to suicide. It doesn't matter what's more likely, it's about the evidence of what actually happened. Trying to add percentages about what's more likely to happen is fruitless.

"In my opinion, it's more likely that this car will continue driving normally, rather than crash!"

Well, good for you, that doesn't make it so.

ckunke002
November 17th 2012


1033 Comments


Word. I probably haven't spent enough time reading material that pointed in that direction.

Wolfhorde
November 17th 2012


13688 Comments


"And i would have to disagree completely that being troubled and depressed doesn't make you more likely to do anything. Sick people kill themselves. Healthy people do not."
I'm sorry, it seems you completely misunderstood me. I'm not talking about healthy people, I'm saying that you can appear completely normal and still be sick or batshit crazy and likely to do something stupid. The point is, you are simply unable to judge that from the outside if something hasn't happened yet. Just look at sociopaths, it's not like they're running around with labels on their forehead. Some of them live in normal families and appear perfectly healthy for decades before they 'go off'.

Also, what Snoxall said.

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MichaelSnoxall
November 17th 2012


12163 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0 | Sound Off

Yeah, Elton John even married a woman before he started buttfucking dudes.

Wolfhorde
November 17th 2012


13688 Comments


Kill yourself, seriously fuck you for ruining my anecdote with such preposterous blathering.

MichaelSnoxall
November 17th 2012


12163 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0 | Sound Off

I improved it, bro.

Wolfhorde
November 17th 2012


13688 Comments


It'd improve your face is if it was eaten off by a bath salt water 'gator.

MichaelSnoxall
November 17th 2012


12163 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0 | Sound Off

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7GyLr7Cz2g

YoYoMancuso
November 21st 2012


11222 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

really diggin this

YoYoMancuso
November 21st 2012


11222 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

every song is astounding

someguest
November 21st 2012


21390 Comments


Yeah, I just love polishing my knives to this one.

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Chortles
November 21st 2012


18094 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

too soon

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someguest
November 21st 2012


21390 Comments


lol

Maniac!
November 21st 2012


26257 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

It's never too soon, even if it does cause a sharp pain in the chest.

someguest
November 21st 2012


21390 Comments


Speaking of chests, nice ginger SLUT.

Maniac!
November 21st 2012


26257 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

This is the one I keep in my basement.

someguest
November 21st 2012


21390 Comments


It explains the pale.

Maniac!
November 21st 2012


26257 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

It works for her.



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