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AngelPhoenix
April 9th 2008


2764 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0

^^^Eww

rasputin
April 9th 2008


14843 Comments


Eh, coke might be offputting but his view of music is usually spot on as i pretty much enjoy what he does.
He's like a new pair of underwear...at first constricting but eventually he becomes a part of you.

I have nothing witty to say, seriously. Just dead inside.This Message Edited On 04.08.08

Eakflanderyof
April 9th 2008


2152 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0

Definitely check out Hatebreeder. It puts all their other material to shame. Much more thought put into everything, the riffs are far more interesting and creative. The keyboards add an atmosphere to the music while remaining very tasteful. The vocals are harsher, but I like that. Some may not.



And yes, Follow the Reaper did get a little samey and boring whereas Hatebreeder does not. Every song is CoB at their best. Plus, it's more classically influenced (don't bite my head off, cocaine) than Follow the Reaper so if you like that then that's a plus .

Tyler
Emeritus
April 9th 2008


7926 Comments


nah i wont bite your head off i know cob fans have obviously never listened to classical music

AngelPhoenix
April 9th 2008


2764 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0

Depends on your definition of classical...

I know some people who consider Jimi Hendrix to be classical music ;)

Tyler
Emeritus
April 9th 2008


7926 Comments


I know some people who consider Jimi Hendrix to be classical music

Quite frankly, those people are idiots.
I know what he's referring to. But I don't think playing sped-up Bach compositions as guitar solos counts as a classical influence.

Aakon_Keetreh
April 9th 2008


448 Comments


3.5/5 for me, it wasnt that bad.

AngelPhoenix
April 9th 2008


2764 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0

They're kidding when they say this to me, personally I didn't even know this

playing sped-up Bach compositions as guitar solos


Interesting...

I'm afraid to listen to this album, I actually rather liked HCDT and AYDY, so it stands to reason I would like this but...

Eakflanderyof
April 9th 2008


2152 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0

So Bach wasn't classical? Sounds like classical influence to me.



Either way, I'm a CoB fan and I listen to all the great composers like Bach, Vivaldi, Rachmaninov, Liszt, and Brahms. I still consider Bodom's earlier stuff highly classically influenced. They definitely use a lot of classical scales.

Tyler
Emeritus
April 9th 2008


7926 Comments


So Bach wasn't classical? Sounds like classical influence to me.

If I'm in a hip-hop group and I sample a country song does that make me country-influenced? If I'm playing blues-chords, does it make me blues influenced? Sorry but speeding up classical compositions doesn't make you classically influenced, it makes you someone who's taken guitar lessons and can't write original material.

kattunlover69
April 9th 2008


1194 Comments


"If I'm in a hip-hop group and I sample a country song does that make me country-influenced? If I'm playing blues-chords, does it make me blues influenced?"


yes

Tyler
Emeritus
April 9th 2008


7926 Comments


No.

Eakflanderyof
April 9th 2008


2152 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0

Yes, because CoB have never written any classical riffs of their own.



/sarcasm



I feel like you're just arguing for the sake of arguing. CoB's early material was clearly classically-influenced as many of their riffs were written using classical scales. That can't really be argued. It's like saying that just because they're metal they can't be classically influenced unless they have orchestra breaks where violins and cellos come in with Bach-esque scales.This Message Edited On 04.09.08

Tyler
Emeritus
April 9th 2008


7926 Comments


I'm actually arguing because calling this band classically influenced or neo-classical is absolutely ridiculous. I don't care if classical music was an influence on them, it doesn't show in their music. I don't care if they use classical scales, that doesn't mean anything.

It's like saying that just because they're metal they can't be classically influenced unless they have orchestra breaks where violins and cellos come in with Bach-esque scales.

It's not like that at all but thanks for the laugh. This Message Edited On 04.09.08

Eakflanderyof
April 9th 2008


2152 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0

Your welcome. Anyway, what the hell? In an argument you're supposed to make a point. You're supposed to give some backing and have some substance. Your argument is just a childish rant with you simply saying "ITS NOT THIS AND ITS NOT THAT BECAUSE I SAID SO!" Give me a break. Contrary to your belief, what you say is not fact simply because you say with an air of arrogance.



You can't even give a decent reason as to why you claim that Hatebreeder and Something Wild weren't classically-influenced? Sad. As a matter of fact, your argument even proves what you were arguing against. You said yourself that classical music was an influence on them.

AngelPhoenix
April 9th 2008


2764 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0

No what does neo-classical even mean then?

And can someone give an example of a band that is clearly and inarguably classically influenced? and why are they so?

kattunlover69
April 9th 2008


1194 Comments


i hear the human abstract is classical

Tyler
Emeritus
April 9th 2008


7926 Comments


Kattun providing yet another worthy contribution. Eak, you can use classical scales, doesn't mean your music is classically influenced. Classical scales are commonplace, as are jazz scales, blues scales and the like. You're obviously misinterpreting my argument and your thinly veiled insults are not worth my time. Take it or leave it, you're not going to agree with me anyways so long as I'm arguing against an album you're so clearly biased towards.

rasputin
April 9th 2008


14843 Comments


unless they meant it to be

IT'S ALL CLUES IN THE PUZZLE

Eakflanderyof
April 9th 2008


2152 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0

I never called them neo-classical did I? I don't think I've ever used that term. The analogy doesn't work well either. I wasn't saying that CoB were influenced specifically by Bach or someone else. I said they were influenced by classical music. Also, CoB has never covered a classical song. Sure, they use some classical parts from old composers in their songs, but their songs are still their own and they also write original classical riffs.



Thrice may not have a real connection to the Beatles, but they do have a real connection to post hardcore. Wolves in the Throne Room weren't Pelican-influenced, but they are post rock influenced.



I understand what you're saying. Classical music doesn't involve fast electric guitars and harsh vocals, but I was simply saying it was an influence.



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