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anarchistfish
December 30th 2012


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There was a producer who released an album recently (can't remember her name off the

top of my head) and in one of the supporting interviews she stated that computers are

the best method of portraying human emotion because of their broad range of sonic

potential, or something along those lines. I don't know if I completely agree with that but

I kinda get her point



As for autotune, that's always bugged me. Especially when bon iver do it, cos I actually

give a shit about their music

Digging: Architects - All Our Gods Have Abandoned Us

TheFonz123
December 30th 2012


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Also commercial success and quality music have never necessarilly been parallel. Hacks like guetta and skrillex being popular has more to do with the fact that electronic music in general has become much more mainstream in America than ever before. When the popularization of electronic was happening certain people wanted to cash in on the success which has been and will always be the case for all genres.

TheFonz123
December 30th 2012


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"yeah they're not really thinking it through."





This is one of the drawbacks. THeir mistakes as artists will forever be immortalized whereas burial's earlier stages were kept to himself. For example, considering Justin Bieber actually has musical talent he will probably make good music at some point. But because the music he made as a twelve year old was released to the public, he will forever have to deal withh the fact that he made "baby". If the first song burial ever made was released, he would probably be embarrassed by it too.

Wolfhorde
December 30th 2012


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"Also commercial success and quality music have never necessarilly been parallel. Hacks like guetta and skrillex being popular has more to do with the fact that electronic music in general has become much more mainstream in America than ever before. When the popularization of electronic was happening certain people wanted to cash in on the success which has been and will always be the case for all genres."
I wouldn't say that, there was quite a number of quality artists throughout the ages that definitely enjoyed mainstream success. Zeppelin, Queen, Beatles, Sinatra, Holliday, Fitzgerald ect.

Of course in modern music it's different and I wasn't implying that they necessarily were, the pop thing was just to make an example. There's a lot of boring music that isn't necessarily popular, too.

"considering Justin Bieber actually has musical talent he will probably make good music at some point"
I'm gonna doubt that.

TheFonz123
December 30th 2012


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Well I meant that pop has not ALWAYS been good, so the most popular does not necesarily equal the most quality. Those you mentioned were good, but there has always also been kenny g, the monkees etc. for all those genres becuase it's a natural part of the music industry.

anarchistfish
December 30th 2012


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@thefonz

What I said was actually aimed at deviant's comment but you have a good point too. This guy had that mystique in the old school approach. The first thing to be made available commercially was the s/t and even that was critically acclaimed. Laying all your beginners' growing pains out for everyone to see robs you of that integrity

anarchistfish
December 30th 2012


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oh wait there was that london boroughs thing



Still

TheFonz123
December 30th 2012


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Also justin bieber does have talent, it's just that the way he's marketed results in making terrible music becuase he's more of a product than an artist. But that may not always be the case. John Mellencamp was a child-star joke as a teenager but he went on to make respected music when he got older.

Wolfhorde
December 30th 2012


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"Well I meant that pop has not ALWAYS been good, so the most popular does not necesarily equal the most quality. Those you mentioned were good, but there has always also been kenny g, the monkees etc. for all those genres becuase it's a natural part of the music industry."
As I said, it was just an example. Don't read too much into it.

Well, where does this alleged talent lie? Songwriting? Doubt it. Vocals? Idk man. Crazy instrumentation skills? I'd like to see that.

Deviant.
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December 30th 2012


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Well I think that is a type of refinement. By releasing amateur tracks as you improve, you essentially chronicle your development.




Yeah but you can do that with yourself being the only participant. I get the idea and sentiment behind that, but I'm just not overly enamored with the idea of people putting every single half-baked "beat" on the net simply because they discovered fruity loops

TheFonz123
December 30th 2012


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"Well, where does this alleged talent lie?"







He taught himself how to play multiple different instruments well at a very young age. He knows how to sing properly even if you may not like his voice. Look up a video of him playing classical on the piano. Just becuase his music does not showcase talent does not mean there is none.

TheFonz123
December 30th 2012


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"I'm just not overly enamored with the idea of people putting every single half-baked "beat" on the net simply because they discovered fruity loops"



But that's a function of the web. The point is people share everything that comes to their heads. On facebook people post the most worthless drivle all the time simply becuase they can. THe point is people post everything. I personally do not agree with that but it's the way things are.

Deviant.
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December 30th 2012


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Oh I know, and like you I personally don't agree with it. That's all

Wolfhorde
December 30th 2012


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"He knows how to sing properly even if you may not like his voice"
So you mean he's technically versed? Yeah, I don't know about that either.

So crazy instrument skills basically. But we shall see.

TheFonz123
December 30th 2012


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"So you mean he's technically versed? Yeah, I don't know about that either."





He grew up poor so he could not afford musical lessons of any sort, but I am fairly certain he uses the proper technique

Wolfhorde
December 30th 2012


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Except that "THE proper technique" isn't a thing. There are various 'proper techniques', I'm doubting he has a wide array of skills that would set him apart is all I'm saying. (I think we can both agree that he will never be a white Bobby McFerrin)

anarchistfish
December 30th 2012


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Just read an interview, one that preceded the s/t release. Pretty interesting, especially when he talks about sticking to soundforge and looking for the vibe rather than the technical accuracy. Also funny how he talks positively about the genre having been in a state of limbo with no one at the helm, cos he changed that

Deviant.
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December 30th 2012


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I'm not entirely sure what he was getting at with that, given the time of the statement

anarchistfish
December 30th 2012


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what do you mean?



Also he uses the term electronica pretty liberally. Must be ok to do it then

Deviant.
Staff Reviewer
December 30th 2012


32190 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

Well that would have been around 05-06, which was pretty much the timeframe that dubstep exploded (not out to America and the whole "brostep" scene) but just within the genre, where it began to get mainstream journo attention and the like, from the likes of him, Skream's debut LP etc. That was kind of the height of productivity for the sound, so I'm not quite sure I follow his whole "state of limbo" idea



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