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WolvesInTheWalls
April 22nd 2013



192 Comments


shouldn't have posted that comment but i still don't get the hype around this album, possibly just not my type of music after all

woah who knew differing tastes existed

JS19
April 22nd 2013



774 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Also, voting on genres you don't like is kinda pointless

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ilovetree
April 22nd 2013



2157 Comments


so is voting on genres you love then

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JS19
April 22nd 2013



774 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

How so? If you like a genre, you know what separates a good example of it from a bad. If you hate a genre then you're not going to like an album whether it's fantastic or awful.

ilovetree
April 22nd 2013



2157 Comments


I disagree. Just because you love listening to a certain kind of genre doesn't mean you can separate between good or bad albums in that genre. Knowledge (theoretical, musical knowledge, not historical knowledge) isn't necessarily going to come just because you like a genre and listen to a lot of it. Loving a genre and knowing about it isn't directly tied together. I mean it often does but it's not a necessity. Now the average deviation from the average rating of someone that loves the genre is definitely gonna be smaller than that of people that hate it but at the same time the amount of people who love a genre and 'overrate' the albums in it is higher than the amount of people who hate a genre and 'underrate' albums in it which in the end maybe, probably, hopefully evens out. bla bla bla averages are a cool thing.

Also I'd say that your rating variance in a genre you love is going to be smaller than in a genre you feel neutral towards.
IDK if it makes sense, no time atm :/

plane
Staff Reviewer
April 22nd 2013



5839 Comments


This album really is better than even the hyperbole

fish.
Contributing Reviewer
April 22nd 2013



16245 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

yeah it's good I guess

JS19
April 22nd 2013



774 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

-----I disagree. Just because you love listening to a certain kind of genre doesn't mean you can separate between good or bad albums in that genre. Knowledge (theoretical, musical knowledge, not historical knowledge) isn't necessarily going to come just because you like a genre and listen to a lot of it. Loving a genre and knowing about it isn't directly tied together. I mean it often does but it's not a necessity. Now the average deviation from the average rating of someone that loves the genre is definitely gonna be smaller than that of people that hate it but at the same time the amount of people who love a genre and 'overrate' the albums in it is higher than the amount of people who hate a genre and 'underrate' albums in it which in the end maybe, probably, hopefully evens out. bla bla bla averages are a cool thing.

Also I'd say that your rating variance in a genre you love is going to be smaller than in a genre you feel neutral towards.
IDK if it makes sense, no time atm :/-----

Obviously you're going to look a bit more favorably on something if you like the genre, but it's not anywhere near the same as going 'it just sounds like screaming' and rating all, say hardcore, albums you hear super low just because you don't 'get' the genre. that's what i was on about. if you understand the complexities of a type of music you'll be better at noticing what's well done and what's original and what's formulaic crap.

ilovetree
April 22nd 2013



2157 Comments


Oh yeah I agree. If you just don't 'get' something you definitely should not rate or at least not take the ratings too seriously. My point basically is that (dis)liking and (mis)understanding are two different categories.

ilovetree
April 22nd 2013



2157 Comments


Listened to this once btw and hated it, but that was when I basically only listened to Metallica m/

TheNexus100
April 22nd 2013



1282 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

shut up

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ilovetree
April 22nd 2013



2157 Comments


b nice

PunchforPunch
April 22nd 2013



1096 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

chill

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gwynbleidd
April 22nd 2013



5742 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

came here only to provoke everyone with my rating. sup sputnik?


omg you like this album i am so fucking mad grrrr

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oltnabrick
April 22nd 2013



17727 Comments


Be positive

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TheBigLebowski
April 23rd 2013



11071 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

RIDDLED WITH

FAULTS AND

FRAC TURES

demigod93
April 23rd 2013



27208 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

cmon man bump that rating

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TheSpirit
April 23rd 2013



15569 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0 | Sound Off

i think this is probably my fourth favorite from them.

demigod93
April 23rd 2013



27208 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

behind what?

TheBigLebowski
April 23rd 2013



11071 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

I don't love any song off of here as much as that though



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