People say that Norma Jean ripped off Botch so much, but I don't see what's so bad about a Botch clone. I still think O God rules (though I did have it for a long time).

Ehh I guess they might be a guilty pleasure.

Album Rating: 4.5

but they aren't a Botch clone, because then that would mean they are good =X

Album Rating: 5.0

Botch wannabes

Album Rating: 5.0

Everyone rips of Botch at one point

Digging: The Dillinger Escape Plan - One of Us Is the Killer

Album Rating: 4.0

How does one rip of Botch?

Digging: Of Montreal - Daughter of Cloud

It takes many years of practice, no one has got it right to this day.

Album Rating: 5.0

Man the Ramparts is so god damn epic

Album Rating: 4.5

I love this album, but I always skip track 10; it just doesn't do anything for me. Am I the only one who does this?

Digging: John Frusciante - Niandra LaDes and Usually Just a T-Shirt

Album Rating: 5.0

Yes.

Album Rating: 4.5

It's just a remix

Album Rating: 5.0

But it's Botch.

Album Rating: 4.5

Very valid point.

Best metalcore album of all time imo. I even prefer this to Jane Doe.

Digging: Opeth - Damnation

Album Rating: 4.5 | Sound Off

I still don't get this : (

me neither.

Album Rating: 4.5

that's ok cause calculating infinity is better than this

Digging: The National - Trouble Will Find Me

Album Rating: 4.5 | Sound Off

it's getting there though......kinda'

This is much better than Calculating Infinity. Although both are 5s.

CI is better

nah, not by a long way